YTSEJAM digest 4135

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Date: Tue Aug 04 1998 - 14:00:53 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Various stuff
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
      2) FII 10 Months Later
     by "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
      3) Girls & DT - Once Again
     by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
      4) Fastest guitarist / YTSEJAM digest 3818
     by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
      5) -- New Email Address --
     by "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
      6) derek's songs
     by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
      7) Derek / Sym. X / a tad bit of *etallica
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
      8) Re: Attention Deficit
     by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      9) Holy shit, my company just got bought out for $100M!
     by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
     10) Re: Girls and DT
     by Kelly Fairbairn <fairbk@Sage.EDU>
     11) Superior YOUnique preorders (US East)
     by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
     12) Time Sigs, E-Mail, AoI
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
     13) Keyboard players
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>

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    Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 09:14:39 -0400
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Various stuff
    Message-ID: <35C7093F.CE141A16@home.com>

    Matt T. made a Testament suggestion:
    > I think you will be very happy
    > with both "The Ritual" and "Practice".

    Thanks Matt! I'll check 'em out.

    > there were only a handful of good songs off "Low",

    Hey, does anybody know if Dave McKean is the artist who did the (very
    cool) cover for
    this CD?

    Chris Groves wrote:
    > /me believes the new Testament album could be quite kick-ass.........
    > 'Demonic' was a bit of a disappointment.............

    They didn't go "Devil music" did they? I'm just asking 'cause
    (obviously) the title of the last album, and then there's a bigass
    upside down pentagram w/ the goat head thing inside on the cover. Just
    curious.
    (/me tries to avoid devil music) :-)

    Mark Bredius told us to check out:
    > http://www.ubl.com/chart/top100.html :-)
    >
    > Mark Bredius

    What the Hell? How in the world did DT take the top spot here? What is
    this based on?
    But anyways...... GREAT news! Maybe some people will surf into that
    site, see Dream Theater, and decide to pick up a CD.

    Kevin Rackley had the following to say about Empty Tremor:
    > This CD is awesome, reminds me of the first time I heard I&W. All those
    > jammers who have bitched and moaned about wanting DT to do another I&W
    > instead of their latest CD - FII, should pick up this CD.

    Agreed. A great CD.

    > The singer has an amazing voice too.

    I agree that his voice is excellent (VERY harmonic). However, I find
    that he doesn't enunciate very well, and it's really hard to understand
    the lyrics (of course I'll cut him a little slack since English is his
    2nd language).

    Later,
    - Joe D.

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:56:46 +0100
    From: "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: FII 10 Months Later
    Message-ID: <61F3B4EC9D23D11181A0006097AD1D732CA8B9@skylight.mvt.ie>

    I won't bore you all with a detailed analysis of each track but ...

    HY - Nice song but the incredibly flat vocals kill its impact so much. JLB
    is capable of injecting passion far beyond what we hear from him on this
    song.

    HK - I like this one; particularly the synchronised insanity about 2 minutes
    from the end. Erotomania is still my favorite instrumental mainly because
    the track changes its direction from minute to minute. Ytsejam almost
    follows the verse -> chorus -> mid8 -> verse scene while HK only has 3
    noticable parts to it but Erotomania is alive every minute of the track.

    TAMP - Never liked it. Demo version is OK but this song does nothing for
    me.

    AL - The vocal harmonies on this song bring the song to life in a way that
    is not at all present on HY. I have always loved this song and I'm
    surprised it hasn't gone down too well with the rest of the jammers.

    Have fun,

    Rob.

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    Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:25:29 -0300
    From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Girls & DT - Once Again
    Message-ID: <003801bdb3d9$7e1ac280$4457d3c8@escritorio>

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    Cowgod...
    Damn how can I turn off the mime thing?

    About the topic - Girls & DT, I can say that my girlfriend is a DT freak
    too, first I gave my vinyl copy of I&W when I got the CD, then a few =
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    (with the bonus cd) and I gave my girlfriend the US copy, the same thing
    happened to the Hollow years single, I got the German version, then the
    Japanese version, and she received another DT cd !
    When DT came here in Brazil, she attended both concerts with me, and she
    enjoyed as much as I did! She even reads the YtseJam posts everyday !
    Actually her favorite Metal bands are Dream Theater and Angra (the best
    melodic metal from Brazil )...
    Tell me if I'm not a good boyfriend !!
    Gilberto Bressan Junior gbressanjr@sti.com.br
    NP- Shadow Gallery - Carved in Stone

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:37 +0200
    From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Fastest guitarist / YTSEJAM digest 3818
    Message-ID: <199808041437.gwlv@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>

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      -> ytsejam(a)ax.com

    Hello!

    I think the discussion about the fastest guitarists is rather ridiculous=
     The
    main thing is not how fast or how many notes per second a guitarist is
    playing, but what they play, or sometimes, what they don't play. A break=
     or
    total silence in a solo can sometimes say more than thousand notes, if i=
    t's
    done in the right way. Just listen to guitarists such as Ritchie Blackmo=
    re (I
    can't name one guitarist that can copy his unique style) and Ace Frehley=
     (his
    not fast but his solos can really move you).

    I really love John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai and Joe Satrian=
    i,
    but Ritchie Blackmore rules!

    Kind regards
    Greger Ronnqvist

    Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se

    Snail Mail: Greger Ronnqvist
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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:58:55 -0500
    From: "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
    To: "John Bowers" <izamiel@vonl.com>, "Craig Calongne" <craig@mailman.ghg.net>,
    Subject: -- New Email Address --
    Message-ID: <01bdbfb8$66fa2880$0def5ed1@cmustard.vonl.com>

    Ahoy,

                I will no longer be at cmustard@vonl.com in a couple of days. You can now
    reach me at tugmutton@toast.net . This is a national ISP, so I hopefully won't have
    to switch again for a good while.

                                            - Mark Lampert
                                              "Madness takes its toll. Please have exact
    change."

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    Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 11:14:42 -0400
    From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: derek's songs
    Message-ID: <35C72562.6EFC94E1@bigfoot.com>

    >You don't like his contributions? Can you say Lines in the Sand?
    Hands down
    > the best song on FII.

    No way jose. It's better than the ballads and maybe bms. no way it's
    better than new millenium. No...fuggin...way. I'd put in on par w/ JLMB,
    right below ToT, which is tied with PS for 3rd. (And there you have my
    weird and wild $0.2.)

    LitS is EXACTLY the song that I feel typifies the new dream theater.
    Jazzier, and less moody. This is a direction that I personally don't
    like as much. Don't get me wrong, I still like it and if the next album
    contains 76 minutes of jazzy, derek-spawned stuff, I'll still buy it the
    day it comes out and listen to it all the time because LitS is still a
    killer fucking song. If I saw derek in a mall i'd have to try not to
    shit my pants when I approached him to tell him he rocks.

    But my point WAS, his contri. aren't as strong as kevin's! Let's say I
    agree, that LitS is the best song on the album. Wanna compare it to PMU?
    Didn't think so. I think most will agree with that. All subjective, of
    course. I could be way off.

    ............................................................
    Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com Razi on IRC & ICQ
    Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!

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    Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 11:18:55 -0400
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Derek / Sym. X / a tad bit of *etallica
    Message-ID: <35C7265F.2F0B76A1@home.com>

    Lars commented on Derek's BMS solo:
    > One thing that stands out as an
    > example of this is that a week or two ago someone commented about how much
    > Derek's solo in BMS sounded like JP. I really don't see what the point is
    > of using guitar sounds and trying to play keyboard solos to sound as much
    > as possible like guitar solos.

    Oh I dunno about that....... I personally think the BMS keyboard solo
    kicks big-time ass.

    > If I were JP I'd be pretty pissed about that... I'd be like "Hey Derek
    > dude, I just wanted to ask you, IS THAT IN YOUR F&*@#&$ING JOB DESCRIPTION?
    > HUH?????", and then I'd kick his ass 'cause he's a homo.

    *LOL* Hehehhehe.
    Still cracking up about that one! :-)

    Bernardo Pulgar said:
    > I've just bought Sym. X's TiO. I've bought other CD's from many
    > bands recently, unknown to me, but Sym. X is the one that I like the
    > most. Could someone write a little about their discography or their
    > web page? I would appreciate it!
    > Thanx.
    > BP

    Symphony X is great stuff! Here's a webpage......
    http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/wellerville/3/

    Hey, did anybody hear that THAT BAND is going to be re-releasing "Garage
    Days Revisited"? (or re-revisited, or whatever it's called). That
    should be a treat. It'll be nice for me to hear some *etallica material
    that actually SOUNDS LIKE *etallica!

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:51:28 -0600
    From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Attention Deficit
    Message-ID: <008801bdbfbf$c90eefe0$45f086cc@korgx3>

    >> Speaking about Alex Skolnick. Has anyone got Attention Deficit album?

    What is this album? Is it an Alex solo album or something? Let me know,
    I've been waiting a long time to see Alex turn anything new out. The dude
    smokes my ass. Gives it a nice woodsey flavor...

    >If DT were a punch (or series of) it would be a series of punches

    I thought they would be more like Sharkelberry Fin or Strawberry Falls
    Punch. But that's just me. (Korg's note: it's quite amazing what an
    enormous resource of worthless information you can find on the 'net, i.e.,
    Kool Aid, Pez, etc.)

    >I won't bore you all with a detailed analysis of each track but ...

    You are an angry young man. Just repeat to yourself, "the glass is half
    full, the glass is half full..."

    >contains 76 minutes of jazzy, derek-spawned stuff, I'll still buy it the
    >day it comes out and listen to it all the time because LitS is still a
    >killer fucking song. If I saw derek in a mall i'd have to try not to
    >shit my pants when I approached him to tell him he rocks.

    I would go up to him, and kick him in the balls and say, "Hey, Derek! You
    write the best fucking songs!" Then I'd rip his ears of and feed them to
    him because he writes the BEST FUCKING SONGS! Then i'd serrate his armpits
    and apply lemon fresh deoderant to them. "You write such fucking good
    songs, Derek! I love you man!" Then I'd beat his head into a concrete curb
    and pull his eyes out with small suction cups and yell, "This is Derek
    Sherinian! He writes the best fucking songs!!!!!"

    I just wonder how many of you know where I got the idea for that last one
    from. :)

    Got Scorsese?
    --KorgX3

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:59:30 -0400
    From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Holy shit, my company just got bought out for $100M!
    Message-ID: <717B37282A06D2119390006008A18E06021950@GLENLEVIT>

    Hey everyone,

    Sorry to somewhat make a (shameless) plug for my company, PlanetAll,
    but we just got bought out today by Amazon.com for $100 million!!!!!!

    wowowowowowow.

    too bad I don't have stock options. :'(

    But, I was chatting about it on #ytsejam today and got the idea that
    everyone who is on the Jam should use this FREE service. Everyone
    here always talks about how they like meeting up with jammers...well,
    this is the easiest way to keep track of getting in touch with jammers.

    Anyways, make sure to join the group "Ytse Jam" under PlanetAll.
    That'll show you everyone on PlanetAll who is a DT fan.

    To join this group, click on the following link:

    http://www.planetall.com/registration/basic/recruit.asp?pcustomerid=685&
    Groupid=11278&Source=40

    If you've never used PlanetAll before you'll need to go through a quick
    registration so you can participate. It only takes a minute and it's
    free.

    Anyways, I'm looking forward to SEEING DT TONIGHT IN NH!!! YEAH!!!

    (west coasters, you can have Spock's Beard. Ha - we got DT :P)

    - Bogie

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Kelly Fairbairn <fairbk@Sage.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Girls and DT
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980804115333.27728E-100000@zeus>

    Ok, so count one more chick in as a DT lover--was introduced to their
    music by my ex and his friends and carried it on after we broke up.

    I don't know. I think it's pretty cool when you can share the music that
    you love with the person who makes you happy. Just gives you one more
    thing in common...

    My $.02,
    kelly
     

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:00:49 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Superior YOUnique preorders (US East)
    Message-ID: <199808041700.AA21722@crl.crl.com>

    I'll be out of town in Baltimore until Sunday (wish it were a week
    later, for PowerMad, but it's for the World SF Convention :)) and I
    thought I'd update the status of ordering for YOUnique before I left.
    I may be able to check on email from Baltimore, but please be patient
    if a delay occurs.

    I've received 29 payments and the threshold for the first "batch" is
    30, so I'll go ahead and float the money over the Pond to Bernd today
    (if possible). The first batch of checks was all deposited yesterday,
    and Bernd advises he should get the first CDs any day now.

    We can't really call these "preorders" now since the CDs are imminent.
    :) Info on ordering signed copies of the CD (whether advance or not;
    since the CD should be out in about a month subsequent batches might
    not be in-advance) is available at:

    http://www.crl.com/~vanyel/younique.html.

    This is for the US, East of the Mississippi. Orders from Canada or
    Mexico can also be handled, but "there will be a fee." :) For the
    Western U.S., please contact Pam Doise at ytsepam@earthlink.net.
    For other countries in the Western Hemisphere, it'd probably be
    easier to contact Bernd directly.

    Side note for Atlanta prog-fans: I've found a nearby source
    (in Warner-Robins) who carries all sorts of kewl prog stuff. For info
    about Exploding Ned's Tunes (no, I don't make this up), email me (and
    be patient :)).

    -- 
    Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective   Paul W. Cashman
    And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive      vanyel@crl.com
    And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives    ICQ# 4151223
    "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY   www.crl.com/~vanyel
    

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:15:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Time Sigs, E-Mail, AoI Message-ID: <199808041715.MAA23522@enteract.com>

    Hmmm...

    Calvin, unless you're stating that Petrucci didn't really llok over much of the transcriptions in the Awake book, or doesn't understand time sigs, I have to say I'd go with him on this one. Sure, tab books often have wrong positions, or wrong notes, etc... but time sigs? In a book that Petrucci edited? No... unless he didn't really edit it, the book's gotta be right. If he edited it, it is there how he played it. He plays it right... I'm sure we at least agree on that. Plus, it sounds right to me when played as in the book.

    > From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> > Subject: All keyboard players blow dick!!! :)

    RIGHT ON!

    > on with the opinions. I have never heard that Matt Guillery guy that was > referred to,

    He's on the Working Man, ain't he? He's on AoI... he's on Bellas's album (pretty solid neo classical speed-shred-etc)... you've probably heard him e-mail me privately and I'll hook you up with some samples of his that you'll dig. someone@prognosis.com

    > Subject: AOI vs. LTE > > AOI is musically satisfying, but not as much as LTE. Many disagree. That's probably why so many people are annoyed with these types of posts.

    Calvin said: > > So is Magellan anything like AOI? I'm now interested and am > > thinking about Test of Wills. Any comments? > > AOI IS Magellan - just Magellan on steroids. > > But it is definitely Magellan. If you love AOI, you will atleast like > Magellan VERY MUCH.

    Not just so. Magellan clearly has much weaker musicianship. The drums, the guitars, the bass and the vocals are NOT on the level of AoI. There's Drum Programming on Impending Ascension... that's not okay by some people. The writing style is almost identical between the two projects (AoI and Magellan)... I ahree in that. But there are many differences in the finished product, which I think is a noteworthy point.

    > > O.k. I don't wanna take up much bandwidth with this one, but it IS 100% > > legit, and is NOT a "Good times" hoax. There has recently been a serious > > discovery that MOST major Client side E-mail programs have a serious bug > > that is easily hackable, and allows a hacker to have full access to your > > computer, it's contents, AND FULL access to your E-mail and PPP stuff

    You want to explain how someone can take advantage of this while your client is not actively sending or receiving data? For this to be put in practice, said offender must know when you're checking or sending mail, if I understand correctly. That seems like the kind of thing a large company might have reason to be concerned about, but not a normal user, who is not on an automated schedule. This whole thing is like worrying about a terrorist taking your family hostage for ransom money... you're not worth it. When you start managing matters of national interest, then start being concerned.

    - Chris

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    Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:36:47 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Keyboard players Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980804143551.18893A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    I'd be happy with two keyboard players: Kevin Moore on the studio and Derek Sherinian live. :-)

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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