YTSEJAM Digest 4134
Today's Topics:
1) UACM and participation
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
2) Reoccurring Threads
by "Shane Woolcock" <woolcock@camtech.net.au>
3) take the bad with the good?
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
4) [re: All keyboard players blow dick!!!]
by Spider <vito.staedler@alcatel.ch>
5) re: Empty Tremor
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
6) re: Attention Deficit
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
7) chicks and DT
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
8) Re: Mellotron / YTSEJAM digest 3814
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
9) Symphony X
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
10) Re: Girls and DT!!!
by Adriana Califano <acalifano@chubb.com>
11) Dali's Chaos Theory Dilemma vocalist...
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
12) Things you do when you're bored.... (NDTC bullshit)
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
13) RE: RE:The Mirror: Tabbook IS right!
by jogopogo@freemail.nl
14) Empty Tremor again
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
15) Cali Ytsegirls
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4133
by Barbara B <babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu>
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:20:19 -0500
From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: UACM and participation
Message-ID: <199808040620.BAA28286@mail.busprod.com>
>> http://www.rockonline.com or click here---}
>> <A HREF="http://www.rockonline.com/">Welcome To RockOnline.com(TM)</A>
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Tracy Buchholz
>> Chipster Entertainment
>
> Mark Bredius
> _______________________________________________________
> Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
> http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
> The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
I just wanted to take a second to mention what a service that Mark is doing
for the band and for the fans. A site like Under a Cyber Moon that generates
lots of daily hits a keeps updated provides other websites that want to
promote Dream Theater online a place to go and advertise their involvement.
Without a place like UACM these people who would otherwise promote DT might
feel it too diffulcult to promote and find the fanbase and therefore not
think it worth their time to do interviews and shows. When a place like
Liveconcerts now does a thing like the Explorer's club listening party and
they see a nice turnout then they feel like that is an avenue they can
continue to successfully explore. This can only mean that we the fans can
see more things coming to us... which is a good thing!
I'm not saying that UACM is the only place that contributes to the DT
community but Mark is very active and high profile, taking the time and
effort to promote his site and get it noticed. Its an easy find for
promoters and fans alike. That takes quite a bit of effort and sacrifice.
I'm not doing this merely as a pat on the back, but also kinda to remind
people that if we want to make sure that DT and bands like DT continue to be
able to get support from the powers that be then we need to at least make it
look like there is an active community that will visit promotions and help
generate hits for people who depend on them for their income. If the prog
loving community gets a reputation for a "go to" kind of group because of
our loyalty and participation then things can snowball and people will get
interested.
Just thought it was worth mentioning.
bruce forst
bforst@busprod.com
oh yeah.. I have a website too..
http://www.busprod.com/bforst/
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:55:25 +0930
From: "Shane Woolcock" <woolcock@camtech.net.au>
To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Reoccurring Threads
Message-ID: <000901bdbf79$0daafe60$909017cb@shane>
Hey look at that, the DerShe and KevMo thread again... :)
I think last time this popped up I said that I preferred KevMo's powerful
chords like in The Mirror and Pull Me Under, but I love DerShe's new
'jazzing up' of the band, like in JLMB and ACOS. Anyway, there's my $0.02.
BTW, If that's Australian $0.02, it's actually worth less in the USA, and
therefore so is my comment... ;-)
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Shane Woolcock - woolcock@camtech.net.au
WWW - http://members.xoom.com/samah/
"Wearing apathetic displays,
Sharing flesh like envy in cages..." - DT
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:42:58 -0500
From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: take the bad with the good?
Message-ID: <199808040742.CAA30960@mail.busprod.com>
>Falling Into Infinity and Liquid Tension Experiment - both original CDs
>are now in the bins of my local used CD shop after I burned copies
>containing only the stuff that I liked. But these copies I made now
>get played a lot more than the originals.
I find this upsetting....I mean alot of times a song on a cd wont hit me
until I've listened to my "favorites" over and over again. And then one day
when I stick the cd in a song that I didnt like will jump out and bite me on
the ass... sometimes turning into all time favorites. This happened to me
with Voices.. I just didnt see it right away... then one night I stick on
the headphones pop Awake into the player hit play and kinda laid there in
bed listening and thinking. Voices comes on and I start hearing all this
really cool shit going on...
an "oh wow" moment...
bruce forst
bforst@busprod.com
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:22:04 +0200
From: Spider <vito.staedler@alcatel.ch>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: [re: All keyboard players blow dick!!!]
Message-ID: <35C6C4AC.1545@alcatel.ch>
Hiya folks . . .
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[re: ytsejam 4133, Damon Fibraio]
Hey Damon...you said something about Rudess..
> ..Anyway, Jordan Rudess, awesome keysman as well. Keith Emerson
> contemporary, maybe? He is just as good, but I don't like some of his
> sounds. I think he could use a Trinity or ...
So I thought after I saw him at the Dt show here in Zurich.
Why does he use K2500? Well, I found out hes email and
I asked him...
>>By the way: why are you playin Kurzweil?... I don't know many people >>who play Kurzweil..
>Kurzweil is the best and the only one I can use to accomplish the
>performance and create the sounds I need. I don't like using a lot of
>keyboards and on the Kurz I can do everything all on one keyboard.
>...
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Jordan
Thats what he said.
> I thought that about Kevin when i first heard DT, but the
> jd800/Korg dw8000 thing just doesn't work for me, although I would love > a sample of Kevmo's lead sound..
ME TOO! MEE TOO!
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:41:22 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Empty Tremor
Message-ID: <35C747C2.69BD@fh-niederrhein.de>
JE78674@ltu.edu wrote :
>Arash,
>I ordered the CD from CDnow. Consider another purchase made. As for
>your concern towards the band, I can't help but feel confused.
>You say they need to sell CD's to survive. What exactly does this
>mean? Considering they are all teenagers or something close to that age
>would imply that they are under the shelter of parents who obviously
>make their own income. Just a thought.
Well, with survive I mean their music. Sure they will not die because
they don't have enough food are so.
Belive me I know so many awesome talented prog bands here in Germany
who have gave up after they've seen that they don't get any support.
They simply change their style to power metal or Industiral/Alternative and
so on.
Actully, Rising Sun has made some preshure to Empty Tremor regarding their
style. They said "you better make some easier music with more power speed
stuff than complex time sigs and prog elements".
6 months ago I've tried to get a deal for ET by Inside Out records (Vanden Plas,
Enchant, Symphony X, Spock's Beard, Rhypsody and ...)
They've said, they don't have any interests in ET because of their music and
the fact that they came from Italy !
I ask "so what about Rhypsody ?" And they said, "well this is another thing.
"They make symphonic power metal and we can sell this kind of music".
You see, it's all about money and nothing else. Even Magna Carta thinks so :-((
Btw, I would like to thank you all in the name of Empty Tremor for all your
support.
I always thought DT have the best fans in the world. Viva Ytsejam ;-)
P.S. I can't help myself but I love Spice Girls Viva Forever song.
Arash
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:42:07 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Attention Deficit
Message-ID: <35C747EF.61FA@fh-niederrhein.de>
"Volodya" <dr.riffken@hol.fr> wrote :
Subject: Attention Deficit
> Hello Jammers,
> Speaking about Alex Skolnick. Has anyone got Attention Deficit album? I've
> heard that it's very experimental and differs from what he has been doing in
> Testament and Savatage. Could someone post a review?
Woho wohooo. I've this one. It's one of the most uncommercial music I've ever heard.
It very very very experimental and techincal and this fact make this record
so especial. The musicians are all really good.
The only thing I don't like is that there are no keyboards.
But the bass player (Michael Manring) is a killer. Just incredible.
The tracks are :
ATM (2:55)
An Exchange Of Niceties (2:33)
Scapula (5:13)
Snip (0:22)
It's Over, Johnny (3:31)
TMA (2:02)
Fly Pelican, Fly (11:55)
Febrile (2:52)
MAT (3:18)
Wrong (0:47)
The Girl From Enchilada (2:35)
Merton Hanks (3:21)
Ill Fated Conspiracy (3:07)
The Blood Room (3:20)
Festivus (0:10)
Khamsin (1:39)
Lydia (3:43)
Say Hello To Me Little Friend (3:01)
NP : Explores Club - AOI (DC Cooper's voice is awesome, don't you think so ?)
Arash
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:15:57 +0200
From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: chicks and DT
Message-ID: <01bdbf88$7d17a140$7a8535d4@schnipp>
HI,
somehow music means a lot to me and is often a castle where I can go to a=
nd
be on my own. I don't know, but if the girl would absolutely share my lov=
e
for DT, I guess this possibility would vanish. Iguess it sounds silly and
makes no sense, but I consider DT in my room as my thing and want to deci=
de
whether I share or not. Agreed, I know that the two loves would not exclu=
de
one another, but I fear I'd be kinda jealous, if she puts my music on,
especially since every song has a meaning and some special kicks. Somebo=
dy
said about FII that every song fits anytime and gets him in the mood he
wants to get in. Agreed too, =E1nd I like it when DT is on during parties=
and
such, but mmh.
I haven't been in the situation so what am I talking about, it's just tha=
t
I'd be a little uneasy in the first place. Maybe I don't want to share...=
.
schnipp
I think it's time for a change.....
TTT,DT
since I'll be moving please get used to
Schnipp@bigfoot.com and delete the vossnet address from your
addressbooks
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:03 +0200
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mellotron / YTSEJAM digest 3814
Message-ID: <199808041003.Im3L@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
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-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
Hello Alex!
I saw your question in Ytsejam about Mellotron. I guess you've already g=
ot
some answers, but here is a perfect website about Mellotrons that you ca=
n
check out: http://progressiverock.miningco.com/
When you get there, choose Mellotron on the menu.
Kind regards
Greger Ronnqvist
Email: greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Symphony X
Message-ID: <19980804100001.7707.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
Hello!
I've just bought Sym. X's TiO. I've bought other CD's from many
bands recently, unknown to me, but Sym. X is the one that I like the
most. Could someone write a little about their discography or their
web page? I would appreciate it!
Thanx.
BP
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 08:13:26 -0400
From: Adriana Califano <acalifano@chubb.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Girls and DT!!!
Message-ID: <35C6FAE6.6439@chubb.com>
Howdy people ... well, I don=B4t usually post here but as my dear boyfrie=
nd=20
Junior (Errr, Gilberto Bressan Junior, but let=B4s just call him Junior=20
ok?!) mentioned me I felt like I own you a post!!!
I love Dream Theater and that=B4s all his fault - I gotta admit=20
it!!! Everything he said is true: he kind of "discovered" DT first and=20
then start giving me "HIS JUNK" (which means: "MY precious DT=20
material!!!") and I just fell in love ... it=B4s an amazing band!
We went to both concerts they did here in S=E3o Paulo, Brazil , last=20
Sept/97 and that=B4s it - we are crazy about it!!! There are some rumours=
=20
that they are coming back to Brazil again next September ... not rumours,=
=20
we heard from Portnoy and LaBrie themselves on the interview they=20
gave before LiveConcerts broadcasted that live DT concert in the web last=
=20
month ... I can=B4t wait to see them again!!!
Well Junior, yes, you are a hell of a boyfriend and I thank every single=20
day you discovered Dream Theater and introduced them to me!!
This mailing list really rocks ... Keep up the good work jammers!!
Adriana Califano ( califano@chubb.com / califano@sti.com.br ) =20
--=20
Adriana Califano mailto:acalifano@chubb.com
The Chubb Corporation http://www.chubb.com/
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:12:55 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dali's Chaos Theory Dilemma vocalist...
Message-ID: <35C6ECB7.E9E9EE02@winshop.com.au>
Mr. Elydian wrote:
> taken from the Chaos Theory demo, back when Jeff DiBartolemeo was
> vocalist
Hang on.... I have the 'Living in Fear' and 'Despite the Waves' demos
(both of which are awesome) in MP3, who sings on these? Their old
vocalist or current one who's on AOI? Whoever he is he's awesome.
Cheerin'
Luke.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 21:12:52 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Things you do when you're bored.... (NDTC bullshit)
Message-ID: <35C6ECB4.6C2DBCBD@winshop.com.au>
...well it can be a vareity of things, but there's one thing I started
thinking about the other day when I was bored (no sexually explicit
material involved) and that is;
If a band were a punch (or series of), what type of punch (or series of)
would it be?
Here's some starters;
If DT were a punch (or series of) it would be a series of punches
varying from soft to extreme and ranging from the groin the noise in a
complexly ordered combination that constantly changes once you think
you've discovered some sort of pattern and believe you may be able to
defend yourself.
If Stratovrius were a punch (or series of) it would be a series of
straight-up, right handed power punches to the solarplex, indespersed by
series of lightning fast left-right-left-right punches of equal power.
If Fates Warning were a punch (or series of) they would be a series of
hard punches to odd places like the knees and armpit which would serve
as a basis for the incoming onslaught of a pleasant shade of punches
which are of relatively moderate-soft power but somehow still manage to
knock the shit outta ya.
If Angra were a punch (or series of) they would be a series of varying
soft to hard punches indespersed by some dazzling, variation punches on
a theme by Paganini or some Eine Kleine NachtPunches.
...this isn't an attempt to start some sort of stupid thread, I don't
even know WTF it's supposed to mean myself, guess I just had to vent the
ol' noggin and it happened to be in the direction of the Jam....
Cheerin'
Luke.
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:20:15 GMT
From: jogopogo@freemail.nl
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: RE:The Mirror: Tabbook IS right!
Message-ID: <199808041120.LAA15587@freesrv3.freemail.nl>
Calvin6s,
Sorry, but you still didn't convince me of the tab book being wrong.
THe 17/16 is split up, because the drumfill is exactly 9/16 long.
The last bar IS 13/8, just count it, for crying out loud!
Jogo da Pogo
"Virtue constitutes happiness and selfcontrol is the essential part of virtue.">Cynic
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 08:25:33 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Empty Tremor again
Message-ID: <35C6FDBD.CF25B89D@home.com>
Jeff said:
> I ordered the CD from CDnow. Consider another purchase made. As for
> your concern towards the band, I can't help but feel confused.
>
> You say they need to sell CD's to survive. What exactly does this
> mean? Considering they are all teenagers or something close to that age
> would imply that they are under the shelter of parents who obviously
> make their own income. Just a thought.
Okay, I THINK what Arash meant originally by "they need to sell CD's to
survive" was not necessarily "survive" as in food/shelter kinda thing.
I believe he meant "survive" as a band.
- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 08:28:59 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cali Ytsegirls
Message-ID: <35C6FE8B.CF86F90E@home.com>
rockercat wrote:
> Umm, excuse me, but I do believe there are plenty of us chicks out here
> in California that dig DT.
/me "feels my heart pull west" :-)
- Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 08:44:26 -0400
From: Barbara B <babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4133
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980804084426.00693680@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Subject: Pass the orange juice (inside joke for Babs <g>)
Jen!!! Hello, I'm still here! And yes, that inside joke is timeless!
As many of you may recall I was quite the 'jam poster a while back. A lot
of my email has been cut down to a minimum due to the little fiasco last
year involving a personal web page placed on the server of the company I
work for. Those of you close to me know the details, for the rest of you
let's just say I got over-zealous, started linking to all sorts of stuff
and was called in by my personnel director and told to take my web page
down and I was subjected to a fine. Oh well - at least I still got to keep
my job (smirk).
So I'm still skimming the 'jams at lightning speed (don't want to be
snagged from the power tower at work) and I do miss posting and yelling at
the men (giggle).
Jen, I'll plan on dropping you some mail so we can catch up!!!!
Ditto for Deb S, I'll be in touch soon!
Oh and to Carol about the JAP - you nailed it on the head! I had a
neighbor about 10 years ago who was one and she ruled the world from her
Craftmatic adjustable bed (big roaring laugh). The neighborhood lived in
fear of her.
Take care everyone!
BABS
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