YTSEJAM Digest 4142
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Testament/devil music
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
2) Re: LTE and Platypus Tour
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
3) Re: Playlist
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
4) Re: vernon reid invades nyc
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
5) how good are carvin basses?
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net>
6)
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
7) speaking of Derek...
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
8) Re: Hampton Beach Show
by AEllis1222@aol.com
9) Re: Prog Stores
by "Adam Saunders" <coreysa@bellsouth.net>
10) Derek INterview
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
11) Re: Just a quick note....
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@erotomania.org>
12) re: odd time fun stuff
by Brien Denis O <n8742612@cc.wwu.edu>
13) LSoaD and LTL
by Portnoy420@aol.com
14) Re: this rush remix
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
15) Symphony X
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
16) Re: MP on the baby
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
17) help!
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:53:37 +0200
From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Testament/devil music
Message-ID: <v01510100b1ee9620a288@[194.7.226.3]>
Previously on the Ytsejam...
Joe DeAngelo said:
>Shhhhhhhh! Don't tell everyone my secret! :-)
..to be continued...
>And I don't think a band would do 8 albums or whatever and then just
>wake up one morning and say "let's do a good Satanic disc!"
They might.
>"You damn kids listening to that DEVIL MUSIC! That damn ......what're
>they called again?.......
>Dream Theater! Devil stuff I tell you! That drummer even looks like
>he's straight from the gates of HELL!"
>;-)
You didn't run into that couple of christians I know, did you? This sounds
exactly
like the stuff they're always telling me. Apparently it's the lyrics that
have been
written by the antichrist himself. Here's an example:
"...is there fantasy in refuge, God in politicians,
should I turn on my religion, these demons in my head tell me to..."
Now, the way they see it, JP asks himself if he should turn on his
religion, because the
demons tell him to, but he doesn't say he won't do it, which makes him the
messenger
from satan. Go figure, and you guys thought it was Mike! Fooled you, huh?
The way I see it, it sounds like a man struggling within, and the
indecisiveness it
leads to. I don't know, if this stuff is in the faq, then it's well hidden,
cause I couldn't
find anything on "Voices", my favourite off Awake.
Oh yeah, by the way, Magellan is antichristian as well, just so you know ;-)
FiveNgroK
CP: Dream Theater - Awake
Outside the soundness of your mind
Bathing your soul in silver tears
Beneath a blackened summer sky
Praying for time to dissapear
(Dream Theater - Under A Glass Moon)
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:53:47 +0200
From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: LTE and Platypus Tour
Message-ID: <v01510105b1eea9eb48f0@[194.7.226.3]>
On last night's thrilling episode of the Ytsejam,
Kevin Rackley revealed:
>respectively. Look for a Platypus tour with Liquid Tension Experiment
>(featuring Mike Portnoy, Jordan Rudess and John Petrucci) later this
>year.
>
>Sounds pretty good to me :o)
>
Pretty good? Does the term "wet dream" ring a bell?
FiveNgroK
CP: Dream Theater - Awake
Outside the soundness of your mind
Bathing your soul in silver tears
Beneath a blackened summer sky
Praying for time to dissapear
(Dream Theater - Under A Glass Moon)
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:53:48 +0200
From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Playlist
Message-ID: <v01510106b1eeab569e12@[194.7.226.3]>
On last night's episode of the Ytsejam,
Bill Blanchard wrote:
>Could someone send me a copy of the playlist for DT for their Deep
>Purple tour? I'm goin to see them Sat. and this'll be my 1st time seein
>them and I want to know what their gonna be playin. Thx.
Don't you just love the element of surprise?
:-p
FiveNgroK
CP: Dream Theater - Awake
Outside the soundness of your mind
Bathing your soul in silver tears
Beneath a blackened summer sky
Praying for time to dissapear
(Dream Theater - Under A Glass Moon)
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 02:53:45 +0200
From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: vernon reid invades nyc
Message-ID: <v01510104b1eea782b7e7@[194.7.226.3]>
On last night's episode of the Ytsejam,
wild koba wrote:
>b) vernon reid, doug wimbish, and will calhoun. friday and saturday, august
>7-8, at the bottom line. 2 sets each night, at 8 and 11. 20 bucks a set.
Hmm, this sounds like a Living Colour get-together. I like.
FiveNgroK
CP: Dream Theater - Awake
Outside the soundness of your mind
Bathing your soul in silver tears
Beneath a blackened summer sky
Praying for time to dissapear
(Dream Theater - Under A Glass Moon)
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:06:06 -0400
From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: how good are carvin basses?
Message-ID: <01bdc02e$c0941240$d15aa698@rob>
Hey Jammers-
I am considering buying a new 5 string bass around $1000 and was wondering
if anyone could tell me if Carvin basses are quality. I am talking aboiut
the LB75. Are they worth the money? Does anyone have othre suggestions on
what I should get?
BTW, I heard the DP/ELP/DT ad on NY's K-Rock, and they played YNM!!! (or at
least all 3 seconds of it) :)
-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800
bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net
DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:57:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>,
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980805205331.1649E-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
music workI am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
I am trying to gather information about what it would take
to get into session playing. If anybody knows what to do, please let ,
, me know. I know this is crossposted, and I appologize, but these ,
are , the two mailing lists I am on that deal with music. , I am ,
looking to get into music recording and production, and also ,
session playing. I , like to write music, some progressive, some ,
not, and as a keyboard , player, I am just trying to think of some ,
ideas that would make me , some money. If anybody has some ,
thoughts, email me privately at , damon@monmouth.com. I kind of am ,
trying to get advice from one Mike portnoy as well, so Mike, if you ,
, are reading this, help me!!!
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 19:04:55 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: speaking of Derek... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980805190448.006899c0@postoffice.pacbell.net>
The current issue of The #Ytse Mirror has an interview with Derek by the lovely Pam Doise.
Here's the url: http://www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror
:o)
Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl _________________________________________ Thoughts - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard _________________________________________ Ytsejam Radio Broadcast http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hayd0029/ytseradio
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:19:05 EDT From: AEllis1222@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hampton Beach Show Message-ID: <dc1538e5.35c9129a@aol.com>
>> Sitting Down for a DT show ............
SUCKS !! >>>>
You've got that right! I don't understand why everone sat though! All you had to do was tuck in your chair and there was plenty of room to stand. I was one of the few people standing there, over on JP's side of the stage. I actually feel bad for the band, because I don't think they knew why everyone was sitting
Art
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:33:11 -0400 From: "Adam Saunders" <coreysa@bellsouth.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Prog Stores Message-ID: <000701bdc0e2$8f4be6e0$3db9d6d1@default>
> I dont know.. i doubt theres a store anywhere in the world that > specializes in prog. Anyone knows?
Here's a store that specializes in prog..... http://www.arenamusic.com
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:33:40 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Derek INterview Message-ID: <35C907F4.26EB916E@caribe.net>
On the ytse mirror's Derek interview it says and i copy/paste:
Q. On that same note, how much would you say you contribute to the overall DT sound? Do you feel you have a significant input?
Derek: My initial seeds for Falling into Infinity were 'Lines in the Sand', 'New Millenium', 'Anna Lee', and 'Hells Kitchen'. The guys were very receptive to my ideas. -----------------
So now, i find it interesting that basically LITS,nM and HK, were initial ideas of Derek, and basically those are the songs that in the eyes of many FII/Derek bashers are the "good" songs on fII... Comments?
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:48:01 -0400 From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@erotomania.org> To: "Damon Fibraio" <damon@shell.monmouth.com> Cc: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Just a quick note.... Message-ID: <002001bdc0e4$a25fb660$1ecbcdcf@syrinx>
>What about King Crimson. I am not saying that NM's intro is blazing fast, >but try to count that out. yes, it sounds like it is in 4/4 or whatever, >but the guitar and synth are playing totally different things and if one >person got lost, it would botch the whole intro.
I know. I know also it's a direct King Crimson ripoff.
>and I haven't heard enough of >them, except Thrack, maybe,
then get discipline. you'll hear what i mean.
>but the original topic was that Derek wasn't a >prog keyboardist, and I will argue that if one knows enough technique and >theory, it doesn't matter, he can learn. Besides, didn't he listen to prog >music as well as hard rock while growing up?
i'm saying that Derek is a rock keyboardist trying to be in a prog band.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- email: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@erotomania.org http://www.erotomania.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brien Denis O <n8742612@cc.wwu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: odd time fun stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980805193053.11433B-100000@titan.cc.wwu.edu>
Hey Scott, I didn't mean to burst your bubble by being a fan of DT while NOT being a musician. I confess, I do own a guitar. But my parents decided not to include any music-playing ability into my gene pool. So I can play a couple of Jewel songs....that's about it. (not to say all of her music is simple, just a little more accessible) But I do understand FEEL and EMOTION. DT plays music the way I always thought it should be played. They don't leave anything out! It was my lack of ability to play the guitar well which gave me an appreciation for the beauty with which a gifted musician can express himself. Michael Schenkar and Ritchie Blackmore come to mind as my primary influences - these guys could put emotion into songs! Take "Love to Love" by UFO, "The Desert Song" by MSG, "Eyes of Fire" by Rainbow. It is the feel of the music that strikes me first, followed by amazement at the ability of the musicians to be able to express that feeling to a person who can't speak the language. (that language being MUSIC) It is the same way you might appreciate a sculpture by Rodin, while not understanding how that sculpture was created. In the end, it doesn't matter what technique was used. The end result touched your soul. Art is in my blood. I do create things with my imagination and my hands. Musical-playing ability just wasn't part of the package. So, though I'm not a musician, we do share a common thread of creativity and expression. As for DT, they are masters of their medium. And their work has touched my soul.
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:09:12 EDT From: Portnoy420@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LSoaD and LTL Message-ID: <8c447c18.35c91e59@aol.com>
Calvin6S wrote: "LSoaD and LTL - well those are mainly Myung compositions."
uuhhhhh....no.... Those are Myung's lyrics, but Dream Theater's music. In the world of DT they are NOT one in the same.... Mike Portnoy
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> Subject: Re: this rush remix Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980805232515.15960A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Could someone fill me in, here? NMS's server isn't working, so I can't > go see what everyone is talking about, but it sounds to me like Puff > Daddy (or someone similar) has done his stuff with "Tom Sawyer." Is > this the case?
i have both songs up:
http://www.erotomania.org/rush.htm
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 23:39:05 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Symphony X Message-ID: <35C92559.41EEF5AB@home.com>
Earlier today, Vincent G. LuPone wrote: > Hmm....well there's SYMPHONY X, Stratovarius, SYMPHONY X, Angra, SYMPHONY > X, Helloween, SYMPHONY X, Cacaphony.....oh yeah, did I mention Symphony X?
Vincent, do you like Symphony X 'just a little bit'? I do too...... but 'just a little' ;-)
I have TDWoT, and it blows my damn mind! I've tried ordering TiO 3 times..... and it's always been terminally backordered. BUT..... two or three days ago I finally got an e-mail from CDNOW telling me IT'S IN THE MAIL! Best news I've heard in a while!
- Joe D.
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 23:12:05 -0500 From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: Portnoy420@aol.com Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: MP on the baby Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980805230431.00686f90@space-dye.com>
Mike,
> Although it is not exactly as cut and dry as this, > I must say Brian Hansen gives one of the better descriptions I've seen about > the neverending KM vs DS debate. > Mike Portnoy
I don't get this. Are you saying that, without Kevin, Dream Theater is all about "pyrotechnics" and chops? Well, mostly? I'm really surprised.
Or am I completely misinterpreting this? Please explain. And please come to Washington, D.C. for a drum clinic next month, eh?
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 00:41:27 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: help! Message-ID: <35C933F7.CBF15F51@bigfoot.com>
I really want to go to either the pnc or the jones beach show. But I have no one to go with! is there any kind of gathering before either of these shows? If there is, I'll get my tix tomorrow(yeah, a little late for a show that's TOMORROW but there should still be some), and hopefully I can impose on said gathering, if it's an open one. Otherwise, I'll just go around pushing little kids off bigwheels.
Probably want to e-me private on this, who knows when the next jam comes out...
thanks! ................................................................ Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com Razi on IRC & ICQ Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!
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