YTSEJAM digest 4155

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sun Aug 09 1998 - 01:29:58 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 4155

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: B-side boot interest, new Project page
     by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
      2) Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy
     by "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
      3) Re: flaming Derek
     by "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
      4) condensation
     by Devs0432@aol.com
      5) hrmmm
     by Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
      6) Re: condensation
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
      7) Re: hrmmm
     by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
      8) Upcoming Angra
     by "Niria" <niriax@ciudad.com.ar>
      9) Rick Wakeman???
     by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net>
     10) Neo-classical/L.A. Confidential
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     11) Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Del_Nunzio?=" <malmsteen@sti.com.br>
     12) Re: hrmmm
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     13) Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     14) Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     15) Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     16) UK
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     17) Bullshit on the ytsejam digest
     by "Duane Addy" <ddc@mail.wincom.net>

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:16:42 -0700
    From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: RE: B-side boot interest, new Project page
    Message-ID: <000001bdc32a$fc7dfd80$798c15cf@markphil>

    Jammers,

    after my post of my personal boot, I recieved multiple email expressing
    interest in this boot of rare DT stuff...

    I've put of web page of beginning ideas... if you are interested, please
    visit it and mail me thoughts...

    The page is at http://www.ccnet.com/~griphiam/musiccreations.htm

    The site has information about the boot, Majesty & You Too, as well as a
    list of DT mp3 files... Please visit it and tell me if your interested.

    Mark Philpot
    griphiam@ccnet.com

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    Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 17:24:51 -0700
    From: "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980808172450.006cbedc@lainet.com>

    At 01:28 PM 8/8/98 someone with some great wit wrote:

    >/~jjens% grep -i -2 Damon .procmailrc
    >
    >:0:
    >* ^From.*Damon Fib
    >/dev/null
    >
    >/~jjens%
    >
    >post away :)

    Hats off to you my friend!

    -sp00L

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 08:19:32 +0700
    From: "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: flaming Derek
    Message-ID: <005d01bdc334$61b66120$9dfd92ca@buzz>

    First Jim wrote:

    >
    >>I've rambled here, and I'm not really sure I got my point across (if I
    even
    >>had one), but I guess I'm just trying to tell Derek: you were being a
    dick,
    >>but please stay. 8^)

    I thought somebody is calling at me, or something....

    and than, Earthblind coming in :

    >
    >That's "Derek, you're making my urethra itch."
    >

    8^D....

    Hi.hi.hi .........as I said previously........The Jam's COOL, man!

    Ytsejam is entertainment, every digest is so damn
    entertaining.................

    And, oh, DT Rules!

    Excuse my English, (I took the grammar lesson on the jam, and time sigs
    lesson too....it help me a bit, I think...Thanks (-: )

    Dick
    Indonesian jammer.

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:00:19 EDT
    From: Devs0432@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: condensation
    Message-ID: <440e1a71.35cd02b5@aol.com>

    >>How about snippin' it into ONE post? Get a grip, man...!

    >Hey man, I'm in ack/bounce mode, I don't do digests.

    Still, seeing about six posts in a row with your name to them and maybe three
    lines of text that you contribute in each is a little much. Try to condense a
    little. Since all your posts typically follow one another, you think you
    could answer the "acks" in groups, instead of singly, it's easier on the eyes.

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: hrmmm
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.980808222822.4671A-100000@sunspot.tiac.net>

    Personally I'd like to see Myung freak and beat the piss out of one of the
    security gestapos.. Not only would it make standing at the show easier,
    but if timed correctly, would have made me stay for ELP and DP =)

    Btw,,,
    for a 45 minute set, it was one hell of a show.... Overheard many ppl
    saying that they were impressed..

    Peace, Love, and Granola....

    Robb

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:00:47 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980808225839.24344B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    How many times do I have to explain this shit to you people? I am in
    bounce mode. Just because the messages from me may appear in a row,
    doesn't mean that the posts are in a row. I get over 200 emails a day from
    more lists than this. If I had to whip out my braille machine and take
    notes, things would start getting out of hand. If you want to procmail me
    like a dick, go ahead. But I would love for you to read email the way I do
    and see if you can consolidate easily. Go ahead, I dare you. I'll give you
    the fucking DOS terminal program, my unix shell account, Pine as a mail
    reader and my speech, blindfold your ass, and see what the hell you do
    with your email. Bet you can't do shit. Now, get off my dick.

    --
    Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com
    Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work
    "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time,
    Images and Words
    

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: hrmmm Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980808230121.24344C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    OK, who has the set list for DT and ELP? Oneof my friends worked security at the pnc bank arts center and really got into DT and ELP and I would like to know what songs were played at the show so I can make him a tape of the stuff. Maybe another prog lover will be born. And sorry if this message is only four lines. I could make it longer, but then I may get flamed for that, too. Sighted people suck. :)

    -- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:35:15 -0300 From: "Niria" <niriax@ciudad.com.ar> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Upcoming Angra Message-ID: <010c01bdc346$bf0d7860$d38e10c8@wigbertx>

    Hi,

    Here you got a site where you can find news about Angra's new CD:

    www.servemode.co.uk/charlie/angra.html

    and here you can download the first single "Lisbon" :

    www.defyance.com.lisbon.mp3

    >Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:17:09 +0200 (CEST) >From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: No more DT touring? / Upcoming Angra >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.02.9808081412320.22744-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be > > > >Hey all, > >I wasn't on the jam for a couple of months, so I don't know if this has >been discussed here before or not. I read in the August issue of the Dutch >metal magazine Aardschok that MP stated on an English radiostation that >Touring Into Infinity will probably be the last tour ever in the band's >history. Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a rumour (although I would >be surprised if Aardschok would just spread rumours...) > >Secondly, does anyone know anything about Angra's upcoming album >'Fireworks' (rel. sept. 4th) (songs etc...) > >Tnx > >Peter > >=========================================================================== === >Peter Geerts *QUOTE* >zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) >peter.geerts@student.kuleuven.ac.be >Eerste Kan. Pol&Soc, Leuven Original Quotes Are Appreciated >Voorzitter JVS Orion Mechelen At The Adresses Listed On The Left >=========================================================================== ===

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    Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:09:32 -0400 From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rick Wakeman??? Message-ID: <01bdc28a$baafca00$LocalHost@rob>

    Hey Jammers- I have constantly heard the name Rick Wakeman on the 'jam and was wondering what band he played for. Every time I hear his name it reminds me of another piano player Jim Brickman, who I beleive is Puff Daddy on piano. He taks other peoples riffs, plays them on piano, and calls it his own song. Anyway, who is this Rick Wakeman??

    42 more hrs till DT at Jones Beach!!!

    "Snarf" - Thundercats (I grew up with them!! :) ) -Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800 bassicrob@new-york.crosswinds.net DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566

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    Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 23:56:08 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Neo-classical/L.A. Confidential Message-ID: <35CD1DD8.55FA2E01@home.com>

    I previously wrote: > >Hey Vince (or anybody else here) - Can anybody else recommend any other > >good neo-classical/symphonic metal in the vein of Symphony X (one of my > >favorites), or Savatage (my 2nd favorite group after DT)?

    Mario replied: > Humm, my favorites are Stratovarius,Cacophony (the best guitar duo of all > time , Jason Becker rules!!!),Angra,and of course,Yngwie,the God,hehehe...

    I haven't checked out Cacophony yet. Were they neo-classical? This IS the Becker/Friedman group, right? Can I find their CD's easily?

    > Vovin and Theli are very good albums...

    Very cool stuff indeed.

    > Yngwie's Concerto Suite For Electric Guitar and Orchestra In E Flat > Minor Opus 1 - Millenium...The best album of all time!! Don't have words to > describe it,hehe...If you like classical/baroque music and like to listen to > a great guitar player you have to listen this...

    Yeah, it sounds like I'll like this one better than the Collection.

    > And about the Collection...It's really not very good...In this disc there are the more pop > songs from each album,except some songs like "Black Star"...Try to listen > Yngwie's first solo album,"Rising Force",the second","Marching Out",and the > latest before the concerto,"Facing The Animal"...

    Yeah, when I listened to it - I was a little surprised at that. "Black Star" was my favorite off of it.

    On a completely unrelated topic: I know this is OLD news, but if you haven't already........ Rent "L.A. Confidential!" I just rented it, and what a great fucking movie!

    Later, - Joe D.

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:54:03 -0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Del_Nunzio?=" <malmsteen@sti.com.br> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <011101bdc349$5a48eec0$d351e7c8@malmsteen>

    >I had previously agreed to the idea of the ytsemeeting in Sao Paulo. Sin= ce >DT are coming for the Monsters of Rock festival, I think it would be a >good idea if we met before this show, which I suppose will happen >mid-september.

    Is it confirmed ?Is Dream Theater really coming here in the MOR ?What other bands are coming ?I heard about Manowar,Judas Priest,Savatage (twic= e in the same year ?), Helloween and Van Halen...Is there anything 100% confirmed ?If all these bands come (principally DT,Helloween,Judas and Manowar) it will be fantastic...

    M=E1rio malmsteen@sti.com.br http://www.truemetal.org/speedking/

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:55:01 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: hrmmm Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980809005428.3888B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Robert Muise wrote:

    [DT tour with ELP and DP] > for a 45 minute set, it was one hell of a show.... Overheard many ppl > saying that they were impressed..

    What's the current setlist?

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:56:02 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980808215544.892D-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Damon Fibraio wrote:

    > What are you trying to say, anyway?

    John's post means that he isn't going to read your messages in the near future (euphemistically speaking), since he directed them to /dev/null (in tech lingo, this means that he allowed his system to ignore your posts). Basically, that's it.

    Of course, he is in ack mode. :-)

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:02:10 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980808214658.892C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, Daniel Alexandre Bonatti wrote:

    Please, turn the MIME off.

    > Dear Brazilian Jammers > I had previously agreed to the idea of the ytsemeeting in Sao Paulo. Since > DT are coming for the Monsters of Rock festival, I think it would be a > good idea if we met before this show, which I suppose will happen > mid-september.

    To be honest, I was thinking of meeting both before (weeks before I mean) the show (if it indeed is a reality) and at the show.

    > I talked to a friend of mine yesterday who owns a store called Aqualung at > Galeria do Rock, and I figured we could arrange to meet there. He liked the > idea, and he even promised to play only DT for us. He suggested the meeting > to be around 2pm on a saturday. I think it's a good idea.

    Will he be selling his stuff for 50% off? :-) Really, I'm not that fond of a meeting in a store, but for the lack of a better place (better place = place where I can eat :-) ), that's ok.

    Seriously now, I think that the other Brazilian Ytsejammers should send their opinions. I can set up a Brazilian version of Ytsejam on my site, if necessary. It's always easy for me to set up mailing lists.

    > If you have any suggestions, please email me, and then we can talk over the > phone.

    > Roger, in a better mood now?? :)

    Perhaps. :-)

    > Take care > > Daniel

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:10:56 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Attention Brazilian Fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980809010218.3888D-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, [iso-8859-1] M=E1rio Del Nunzio wrote:

    > Is it confirmed? Is Dream Theater really coming here in the MOR?=20 > What other bands are coming? I heard about Manowar, Judas Priest, > Savatage (twice in the same year?), Helloween and Van Halen... Is there > anything 100% confirmed?

    =09I don't know if there is any truth about DT coming to Brazil, but I heard on "Backstage" (that damn program aired on Sundays) just before they played "The Way it Used to Be" that they'd be coming for MoR this year (when is it going to be? If it's going to be on Sep 12th, then that=20 will be EXACTLY one year after they came the first time -- they played here in Sao Paulo on Sep 11th and 12th last year).

    =09Just some nice facts to think about. :-)

    =09Anyway, I'm sure Mike Portnoy will let us know about the real thing. :-) (hint, hint, Mike).

    > If all these bands come (principally DT, Helloween, Judas and Manowar) > it will be fantastic...=20

    =09Well, as they say "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".=20

    =09Or in a more direct way, I'd prefer to have other bands going along with Dream Theater. :-)=20

    =09[]s, Roger, "The Beholder"...

    -- =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:17:28 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: UK Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980809011218.4639A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 8 Aug 1998, K I L L M A R Y wrote:

    > Nobody answered my UK question... please, what does it sound like? Is it > some King Crimson-type band? Or is it more fusion-like?

    I don't know very much about UK, but the song I've heard was cool. It was a more fusion than what I know about KC (well, I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to do my homework on KC, since I'm missing a lot of their albums). I know the following songs from their first (self titled) album:

    * In the Dead of the Night; * By the Light of Day; * Presto Vivace; * Reprise.

    They fit my definition of cool.

    []s, Roger...

    P.S.: Can someone recommend me some Queensryche starting point? Are they metal? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:17:24 -0400 From: "Duane Addy" <ddc@mail.wincom.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bullshit on the ytsejam digest Message-ID: <003401bdc355$42ce6160$34cb18cf@ciaccess.com.ciaccess.com>

    I'm sitting here reading my email from the digest and I can't believe what I am reading. All this shit about Derek vs. Kevin. Do these people have nothing better to write about than this. Alot of what I have seen since joining the digest is complaining, bitching and belly aching. (Mostly about this topic) If this is your way of intelligent communication than maybe you should look for a country music email address because that's about what this is starting to sound like "one fuck of a big country song." Maybe you should play Dream Theater's music backwards and Kevin will come back, you donkey ass mother fucker.

    Who gives a rats ass if Derek is the Keyboardist or Kevin is. They are both extremly talented musicians and any band should feel fortunate to have them as their keyboard player. What you should be looking at is that Dream Theater is Five of the most talented Musicians in the world and leave it at that.

    All I ever wanted out of this digest was to talk about the music and the musicians that play it (and that means their performances and talents, not their sexual preferences and whether or not Derek is better than Kevin or vice versa.)

    Maybe these people should concentrate on acting some what mature instead of dealing with childish antics.

    There I'm done my little rant.

    see ya.

    D.

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