YTSEJAM Digest 4157
Today's Topics:
1) LTE/AOI/fan club/Moderated(Newsletter)/Rumour/Derek
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
2) Getting UACM Newsletter #1
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
3) Armen "the Clown"
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
4) Mike Stern - NDTC
by "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
5) No subject was specified.
by stan-o- <drumguy@uscom.com>
6) CDR Question (help needed)
by Constabl <constabl@ccomm.com>
7) Mike Portnoy and general shista!
by Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
8) Concert tomorrow
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
9) Bands for Birthday
by Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
10) DT/DP/ELP tonight!!!!
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4149
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
12) Re: Mike Portnoy and general shista!
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
13) KGee, Wallie, I agree with the Ashourihas.Re: YTSEJAM digest 4156
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
14) Re: DT Sucks?
by Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
15) stop already geeeez!!!!!
by Daniel Nobles <dozer@eznet.net>
16) Re: Rick Wakeman???
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
17) Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:59:06 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LTE/AOI/fan club/Moderated(Newsletter)/Rumour/Derek
Message-ID: <01BDC3A7.3DB70040@202.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
Mats "Rydstr?m" wrote :
> Sorry if this is redundant, but CDnow lists both Age Of Impace and
> Liquid Tension Experiment on their Top 100 sellers list. Good job!
Yeah, Liquid Tension Experiment is doing pretty good at CDnow...
So far 116 copies have been sold through UACM alone... 22 copies
of Explorers Club were bought through UACM during the first week
of its release. Since I know exactly what albums people buy from
CDnow through UACM, I have recently added an "Album Suggestions"
page... Here's the current top 3 :
1. Liquid Tension Experiment Liquid Tension Experiment 116
2. Dream Theater Hollow Years 33
3. Explorers Club Age Of Impact 28
You can get to the "Album Suggestions" page through the table of
contents on the main page, or the "CDnow" box on the left frame.
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Htdmhd@aol.com asked :
> can anyone end the debate for me? i'm wondering if the new NY
> address is ligit
No it's not... All subscriptions now have to go through the addy
in the UK. Full details can be found on the "Official Fanclubs"
page on UACM.
> i don't wanna lose the $, plus the x-mas cd is a must for
> my collection each year thanks
I'd just like to mention, that you get the x-mas CD with all six
official fanclubs.
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Rogerio Brito wrote :
> Humm... I think that I need a moderated version of Ytsejam.
Are you on the weekly UACM newsletter yet ? I noticed a *lot* of
people joined after I sent out the first issue... I'm working on
something that allows people to have the last newsletter sent to
them from the site... Should be up and running later today. :-)
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Peter Geerts asked :
> I read in the August issue of the Dutch metal magazine
> Aardschok that MP stated on an English radiostation that
> Touring Into Infinity will probably be the last tour ever
> in the band's history. Can anyone confirm this, or is it
> just a rumour
It's a rumour that Rock Radio Network accidentally started after
misinterpreting an email from Mike Portnoy... Unfortunately some
metal magazines missed RRN's correction, and printed the rumour.
For more information about this, check out UACM's news page.
> (although I would be surprised if Aardschok would just
> spread rumours...)
I emailed them about it weeks ago, but they didn't even take the
time to reply.
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Alex Smith wrote :
> you know, *somehow* i get the feeling that post wasn't from derek!
> just go back and look at it carefully.
And then look carefully at my reply to that post. I'm sure Derek
now regrets having sent that note, seeing as how fucking hostile
Matt Johnston reacted to it. Maybe he has a blond sister and was
wondering how she got those backstage passes. ;-)
Just trying to perfect the art of combining replies.
Mark Bredius
_______________________________________________________
Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:01:05 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Getting UACM Newsletter #1
Message-ID: <01BDC3AE.EDD61CC0@202.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
There are currently 127 subscribers on UACM's newsletter !
The 60 or so who missed the first issue, can request it to
be sent to their email address from the Mailinglists page.
Every last issue will be available for request through the
Mailinglist page from now on, so people can get an example
before they subscribe.
Mark Bredius
_______________________________________________________
Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 10:00:00 -0400
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Armen "the Clown"
Message-ID: <35CDAB5E.53674B06@seacoast.com>
Arman "the Clown" wrote
>U2 + alternative = Speak To Me
>Bon Jovi + alternative = You Not Me
>Elton "GAY" John + Beatles = Anna Lee
>Metalica + Pink Floyd = Preuvien Skies
>Alternative + hard rock = Cover My Eyes
Hey Armen, SHUT the Fuck Up!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:30:25 -0500
From: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mike Stern - NDTC
Message-ID: <01bdc3aa$a1875720$dca90c26@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
After talking to a former guitar teacher of mine and getting some
recommendations on some jazz stuff, I bought Mike Stern's 'Between the Lines' CD
yesterday. If you like a great mix of blues and jazz, with an excellent lineup for
the band (inluding Dave Weckl on percussion, who I had not heard before... this guy
is awesome.), then I suggest picking this one up. It's pretty upbeat most of the way
through with some really catchy riffing, great jazz guitar work, and a Eric
Johnson-quality recording. I will be buying his other albums shortly.
- Capt. Wolfric Tugmutton (my friends call me Mark)
tugmutton@toast.net
"Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive."
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 11:37:38 -0400
From: stan-o- <drumguy@uscom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No subject was specified.
Message-ID: <35CDC23C.A32A8976@uscom.com>
> NM: Am I the only person who actually loves this song?
>
hmmm, nope, I love that song, i think that is the best track on the disk
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 11:43:36 -0400
From: Constabl <constabl@ccomm.com>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CDR Question (help needed)
Message-ID: <35CDC3A7.6C482FB7@ccomm.com>
I have been making cd's from different songs and stuff I have found on
the web.
A problem I have is, when the songs switch to next track, there is an
audible click (pop, snap, whatever you want to call it)
I have been using two programs (wavclip, and wavtrim) to remove any non
audio data from the wav files but this doesn't seem to work all the time
and it is a pain in the ass to go in and remove all beginning and ending
silence from a wav file manually (assuming this is the problem).
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Marc Contrady
-- http://www.angelfire.com/pa/constabl------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 12:07:51 -0400 From: Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Portnoy and general shista! Message-ID: <35CDC957.1A81@ix.netcom.com>
Just for the hell of it, I did a search on Alta Vista searching "Mike Portnoy". it returned an unfuckingbelievable 2,400,567 matches!! I'd say that Mike has been pretty well received by the music and internet communities!! I fuckin' hear ya' Mike!! Rock ON bro!! BTW the clinic you did in Altanta was incredible and to those of you Jammers complaining about a fee for a clinic...EAT ME! It was worth ANY amount of $ that I could afford <even though it was free>. Yes, photo's and video cameras ARE allowed in *most* clinics. It's probably up to the performer. Paul Cashman and Phil Carter, it was a pleasure meeting you guys and we still need to get a Southeastern YTSECON set up sometime in the near furure. Here's an idea for us jammers...Everyone (at least those who can) should get a pic of themselves scanned and these should be kept on a page (UACM maybe?) with the nicks and city/states in which they live. It'd sur emaking finding one another easier at YTSECONs or concerts! Just a thought.
LTE kicks ASS! AOI kicks ASS! VTT (Vital Tech Tones) kicks ASS! BUT THEM. ALL of them! NOW !! GO.....WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR.... YOU GO NOW !
Zildjian NP ME...to I&W as soon as I send this!
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:08:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Concert tomorrow Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980809120528.19117A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
Sorry for NDTC, but for all the West Michigan 'jammers out there, my band A-Frame is opening up for Clutch tomorrow night at the Intersection on Wealthy St. in Grand Rapids. It is a Ticketmaster show, so I would have said something earlier, but we had it confirmed only recently. We're not a prog band, more of a 70's Sabbath kind of thing, so don't expect Fates Warning or anything like that. Thanks.
-C#
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 12:14:46 -0400 From: Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bands for Birthday Message-ID: <35CDCAF6.2CA7@ix.netcom.com>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Blind Guardian wrote:
> Hey all. I need some help here. My birthday is coming up next month > (early September), and all I really want is new music for my prog > collection. I would like to give a list of albumns to family and > friends, but I really don't have a good idea of what they should look > for. What do you all recommend? If it helps, I live in central Ohio, and > most of the music store chains don't carry much in the way of prog. > Also, I am the only one who has access to the internet.
Here's your solution: 1. Read the JAM. 2. Sample what you can from the Net. 3. Tell family and friends to give you CASH. 4. Buy the shit yourself!! Save a lot of headache from getting shit you don't like cause they couldn't find what you list for them !! ;-)
L8R /Zildjian now climbs behind the kit to make some noise.
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:38:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Love-In), li-jam@dreamt.org Subject: DT/DP/ELP tonight!!!! Message-ID: <199808091638.MAA29247@optical.mindstorm.com>
hey folks! whoever's going to the dt show tonight (with those two special guests :), let's try to meet near where they take your tickets, say half an hour before showtime. (when *is* showtime, anyway?) if you want to get in touch with me before then, call me at (516) 413-2685, and we'll see what we can arrange. cool? cool. -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: bredius@globalxs.nl (Mark Bredius) Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4149 Message-ID: <24574-35CDD1F4-2129@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
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UACM looks fine, and I've had no problems viewing the frames version. As for what you can to make our browsing your sites easier, just keep things simple. What you have going now is fine. The only real problem Webtv has is reading advanced JAVA code. That, and we can't download. :o(
~BC
"The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon Ayreon@webtv.net Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Received: from mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.91]) by postoffice-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id GAA07984; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Iguanodon.big-orange.net (smtp.mail.big-orange.net [143.179.236.31]) by mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.01Apr98) with ESMTP id GAA13987; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 202.153.dialin.mxs.nl ([143.179.153.202]) by Iguanodon.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with SMTP id AAA37B for <Ayreon@webtv.net>; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:05:12 +0200 Received: by 202.153.dialin.mxs.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BDC3A7.2BE00BA0@202.153.dialin.mxs.nl>; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:05:39 +0200 Message-ID: <01BDC3A7.2BE00BA0@202.153.dialin.mxs.nl> ]From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ayreon@webtv.net'" <Ayreon@webtv.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4149 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:24:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi ~Ayreon,
> Was this remark really needed? Does this list need > a "Webtv vs. PC" bullshit thread?
I've been wondering about this for a while... I know that there are "Webtv people" visiting UACM and my other sites regularly, but I'm not sure how things look on a Webtv... Can you view the frames version or do you have to use the frameless one ? Is there *anything* I should keep in mind to make things look good on a Webtv ?
Thanks. :)
Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:56:46 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy and general shista! Message-ID: <01bdc3b6$b1e0b600$a5e82ac2@elydian>
>Just for the hell of it, I did a search on Alta Vista searching "Mike >Portnoy". it returned an unfuckingbelievable 2,400,567 matches!! I'd say >that Mike has been pretty well received by the music and internet >communities!! I fuckin' hear ya' Mike!! Rock ON bro!!
You forgot to put quote marks around the name, it searched for Mike and Portnoy. "Mike Portnoy" gets 846 matches at Alta Vista, still a lot though.
========================================== In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. -- E-Mail: elydian@netcomuk.co.uk -- ICQ UIN: 1491970 -- Web Pages: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~elydian/ ==========================================
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: KGee, Wallie, I agree with the Ashourihas.Re: YTSEJAM digest 4156 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980809095131.3341C-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Man, all you mother-fuckers aren't real prog metal fans. You listen to classical music? Who'd listen to that shit anyway. Symphany X is a fucking sell-out because they orchestrate some stuff like that. Yngwie? Oh there's the biggest sell-out of them all. All he is is recycled Bach and Paganini licks without most of the tastefullness. But screw classical music, I'm a prog metal fan. While we're at it, screw straight-ahead metal, too. Skid Row? Def Lepard? Nitro? Vinnie Vincent? Oh, they're every bit the same and they aren't prog, goddammit! And folk! Just don't get me started on folk! Everyone just coppies the Carpenter Family, Simon and Gargunckle, and early bluegrass! No originality and the furthest thing from Prog in the world. While we're at it, let's screw New Age as well. Most of those people couldn't play a 64th note run if their lives depended on it! Obviously, prog kicks their asses as well. Conclusions: All music that isn't prog sucks. No music is as original as prog metal sucks--oh wait a sec. You mean Prog is just th4e child of several different types of styles combined? Wait, you mean all music is? Oh fuck this music shit. I'm gonna start listening to chainsaws and skyescraper construction for fun. Oh shit! That's been done before, too. Maybe if I go to Germany, they can totally enlighten me. Maybe if I go to Italy, I can hear a perfectly original sound! Maybe... Maybe life just isn't worth living because someone has already lived before me.
Get your fucking heads out of your fucking asses, shut your goddammed mouths, open your ears, and think for a second. You don't have to be a fan of every style of music, but you ought to respect different types of music for, if nothing else, being different. If prog were the only thing in the world, I'd be pretty fucking board. Oh, and what does it matter if a keyboardist or two is sex-crazy? My best friend tries to get on every female thing that breathes. I know plenty of other people who'd do the same thing. You think that's wrong? Don't sleep with them, it's that simple. Just because you respect someone's abilities as an artist means that it's really important what they do when they are not creating or performing art. If Darick is a personal friend of yours, take it up with him, but leave the rest of us out of it. People, stop living vicariously through the bands you listen to. If DT started a Nazi party and killed off a bunch of Jews again, some of you would go along with it, as long as they still wrote good music. If we gave every ounce of our being to creative forces and worked hard, we could also write DT-equivalent stuff. I guarantee you that one day in the not-too-distant future, I will start mounting to JP's level of technique. That's not bragging, that's just how hard I'm working at guitar tand the progress I've made. My song-writing right now is pretty damned good as well, thank you very much. Those who listen to my music and feel so inclined to worship me may do so at the shrine undergoing construction in Cyberia right at this moment. Get a head start now so that you can say you were there first when I take the world by storm.All right. Enough space and time wasted. Time to practice and listen to more. Be well. Yours in sick-and-tiredness, Matt B
P.S. I still don't have my Empty Tremor Promo.
============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin) "A dominatrix to the first degree, she'd rather die than set you free, hook line and sinker is what she wants, a nasty bitch she's no debutante." (Mike Portnoy?, Rising Power, Goddess of Pain and Pleasure)
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:13:17 -0400 From: Dave <bghwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Sucks? Message-ID: <35CDD8AD.34C2@ix.netcom.com>
> Hey everybody, > I just wanted to say a few things about OFB...Dream Theater.... > > John Petrucci....great guy, great player....but he suck as a guitar > player. > John Myung.......quiet guy, great player....but he sucks as a bass > player..he's a typical bass player. > James Labrie....great guy, dope head........but he sucks as a > vocalist...Mary Jane don't help that singing voice. > Derek Sherinian...great guy, GREAT PLAYER....if DT hadn't asked him to > come into the band they would probably have disbanded...he really adds > a lot to the band. > Mike Portnoy...GREAT GUY, GREAY PLAYER...all round awesome > dude...without him..there is no DT. > > What do y'all think? Well, you're 1 for 5. You got MP right on. As for the rest of this waste of fucking time post.... I think you're a FUCKING IDIOT !! You call yourself a DT fan ? What the fuck are you doing subscribing to this list ?!?! Also, what the FUCK did you post this pile of bile here for if you are a DT fan ? > Glen The dickhead. > P.S. I love DT!!! ---Yeah and it shows !! Fucking dipshit.
What nerve sheesh /Zildjian looks for some good Valium. 4:20
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:11:32 -0400 From: Daniel Nobles <dozer@eznet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stop already geeeez!!!!! Message-ID: <35CDD843.2E615482@eznet.net>
Hey all: Can we pleassssssssseeeeeee stop all the moaning about Derek. He is a great keyboard player and so is KevMo. They both have given great moments to DT. Deal with it! Now how bout some posts on the shows with elp/dp. Is it worth spending the big bucks jusst to see DT????
Back into lurkdom
Justdan
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Rick Wakeman??? Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980809133223.24313B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Rick Wakeman is most noted for playing with the band Yes. He also has a solo career going with more albums than most band could ever hope to record. However, many would say that Rick Wakeman's best work was in the early 70s-era Yes and his first two or so solo albums. To hear this man in action, you will need to buy Yes Fragile and Close ot the Edge, and Rick Wakeman's Six Wives of Henry VIII to start you off.
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: My views on the recent Derek controversy Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980809133425.24313C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Roger, thanks for the info. His loss. I can't imagine what is so bad about my posts that would make people direct me to the proverbial recycle bin, for the most part, lately I have been on topic, I answer people's questions when they ask, and I usually don't flame people. yet, due to the frequency of my posts I am bitched at? And oddly enough, if I consolidated my posts into one, they wouldn't be any less consuming, then everybody would bitch about the size of my post. So, how can I win? Well, if you all can find a way to get me a job so I don't sit on the internet all day, then you won't hear from me so much anymore. Excuse me if I have something to contribute.
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words
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