YTSEJAM Digest 4184
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) new music video channel
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
3) Copy of: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!
by Eddy Huisman <Eddy_Huisman@compuserve.com>
4) Blubber Ballet
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
5) Ytsefootball!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
6) NMS url??
by "Eric Paulhus" <epaulhus77@hotmail.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4177
by "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
8) JM and JL
by "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com>
9) ATTN Mike Bahr!
by Jason Dolinger <jaybear2112@yahoo.com>
10) smelling colors, feeling sound....
by "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com>
11) Re: ATTN Mike Bahr!
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
12) Re: Gary Hoey Clinics
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
13) Re: Blubber Ballet
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
14) The National Midnight Spank.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
15) Re: ATTN Mike Bahr!
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
16) No DT in UBL
by "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net>
17) Re: October.
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
18) smileys
by "Alex Smith" <bacchus@azstarnet.com>
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:02:26 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <35D44371.20161B1B@caribe.net>
TheCowGod wrote: oh please let it not be true - i'm gonna be in college in SC
then and
> you're sure as hell not getting to see them without me :) damnit, my luck.
> 18 years i live here, they don't come here. the year i leave, they decide,
> "yeah, i guess we'll play puerto rico." fuck em. DT sucks. :) Moo.
>
Well you do have a point my bovine friend.. but hey.. in those 4 years youre
gonna be in SC maybe youll get to see em 3 or 4 times!
Thats why i always thought.. when picking a college in the us..FIRST look at
what city dt plays more often.. THEN pick your closest college of choice :)
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:32:15 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new music video channel
Message-ID: <35D44A6E.161E49C7@trw.com>
When I was watching sportscenter this morning, a local cable commercial
came on and it said what channel Access Entertainment was on and that
the channel is music videos only. So I switched to it and Peter Frampton
video was on. I didn't have much time to wait for another video. So does
anyone know if this channel plays any metal or hard rock?
NP:The Police-Greatest hits
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:55:04 -0400 From: Eddy Huisman <Eddy_Huisman@compuserve.com> To: Ytse Bunch <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Copy of: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!! Message-ID: <199808141055_MC2-5616-B0F6@compuserve.com>
Hi there Ytse Bunch,
Before I actually have to be taken away in my straightjacket I could use some help with the following problem. I am trying to send mail to this li= st with my other account and it never shows up. I also tried subscribing wit= h it but the only way to subscribe was using the account I'm using now and then send a command to listserv to change it. =
The address I'm trying to use for the jam is Ytseddy@carpe-diem.demon.nl.=
Would anyone have any idea why the mail I send with this account is never=
showing up on the jam and why I could not subscribe with it? Or does the list only accept flames at this moment <G>
Thanx in advance for your help,
Ytseddy
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:09:43 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Blubber Ballet Message-ID: <004d01bdc795$a11367e0$4ef086cc@korgx3>
>oozing out. Get a fucking clue. If YOU don't like yourself, >and if the glass is ALWAYS half-empty, NO ONE ELSE is going to
The glass is never half-empty. It's always full. There's always gotta be something in the glass: bacteria, water, oxygen, Petrucci's dentures...
>give a damn either. She's like the fat lady who keeps saying, >"I am sooooo fat" in the hopes that someone will say, "no, you
Hey, she could be fat as hell and think she's thin, running around wearing short skirts, sundresses, tight pants, and shit with corpulant flesh literally dripping off of her cadaverous body, picking restrictive clothing out of 10 feet of asscrack most of the day... (shiver) I'd rather listen to modestly garbed fat women whine anyday. :P
I work with one of those. Murder should be legal. -- KorgX3
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:13:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsefootball!!! Message-ID: <199808141513.LAA17043@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Come on gang! Only 6 spots remain in the football league.
http://games-espn.sportszone.com/ffl/tour/
League = "Ytsejam Fantasy Football" Password = "kevmo"
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:14:33 PDT From: "Eric Paulhus" <epaulhus77@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NMS url?? Message-ID: <19980814151433.28666.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello...
Could someone please send me the NMS url?? I seem to have lost it.
Thanks very much..
--Eric--
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:24:56 +0700 From: "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4177 Message-ID: <00a001bdc797$2abd9aa0$98fd92ca@buzz>
Damon replied to my post about tape :
>Here's the word on cassettes. Most of the time, you can't put all the >stuff you can fit onto a CD onto tape because of length limitations. This >does make one glaring exception. Pink Floyd pulse has one more track on >teh cassette than on the CD. But generally, the tapes have length >limitations of up to 50 minutes per side. CDs are continuous up to 74 >minutes. Sometimes it is marketting considerations that cause some tracks >to be missing from tapes. And let's face it, tapes are not cuttinge dge >anymore. CD players are so inexpensive, and they last longer and sound >better than tapes. It just may be someday that tapes go the way of vinyl, >(magine Awake on vinyl?). My advice, bite the bullet and buy CD players. >
I get your points about tapes. But, inexpensive is not the right word here in my country, at this time :-).
Thanks, anyway, for all your responses. Maybe I'll be just drooling, then..........
And, oh, I think the title of Rush live album is "Different Stages"
And there's another jammer from Indonesia. Cool. That makes us 2 of 200 millions, how many percent is that? Man, I'm sucks at math.....
Later then,
Dick Indonesian jammer
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:00:38 PDT From: "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JM and JL Message-ID: <19980814160038.23466.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey jammers,
Man, getting lessons from Derek??? How cool is that! I agree with the guy wanting lessons from Myung....he's amazing! I'd love to just sit down with him sometime and he could show me a few things. When I saw them, he's the one who impressed me the most!! On a side note, Portnoy was nothing like I thought he would be in concert...he's very energetic, which I had imagined, but man, does he ever make the drumming look easy...especially that 6:00 intro. I believe he had said in an interview that it was the most challenging drum pattern on Awake. It didn't seem that way at the concert :)
On another note, does anyone know where James Labrie got his vocal training? I imagine it's in Toronto somewhere....I live in Ottawa, only about 4 1/2 hours away... I really want to take singing lessons, but not sure what the best way to go is. I would think opera training would be great, because it develops your voice properly, and then you can pretty much do what you want with your own style after because your voice is so developed. Any suggestions? James? Mike? Anyone?
Vince
PS - Anyone remember James Labrie with Winter Rose back in the 80s? Hehehe, it's funny when I think of him singing with someone other than DT....
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:55:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Dolinger <jaybear2112@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ATTN Mike Bahr! Message-ID: <19980814155553.7165.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>
Hey folks, This is my first post to the jam, and unfortunately, I just have some business to take care of. Mike Bahr... Where are you? According to your web page, my copy of Virtual Songs was sent out over a month and a half ago, and I have yet to see it. I've sent three e-mails to you in this time period, and have not heard back. PLEASE, let me know what's going on. Thanks.
Jason Dolinger
== Jason Dolinger OAS, AAS, LLS! GO CATS!!!!!
"I had given all that I could take, And now I've only habits left to break, Tonight I'll still be lying here surrounded, In all the light..." Mike Portnoy, Images and Words _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:11:28 PDT From: "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: smelling colors, feeling sound.... Message-ID: <19980814161130.20676.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey jammers,
I can't remember which jammer had the long winded post about feeling music, and feeling colors...(red, blue, etc...and visualizing and smelling onions being cooked). Anyhow, I completely agree with her. I get so much more out of music than just organized notes, and patterns. I remember the first time I heard ACoS...wow!!!!!!! It blew me away. Especially the part "Preparing for her flight, I held with all my might..................I said I love you.....Goodbye" That's so rich and powerful. The trick here is to intertwine the lyrics and the music. He's dealing with a woman leaving, etc...and the music reflects the emotions. Then all of a sudden, everything stops, and he just says "Goodbye". That part actually gives me the chills. It's so well done. Then right after, to reflect what one could be feeling, the music gets very chaotic....aggressive, James screaming in the background, loud. Man, it really suits the mood!!!
I feel the same kind of thing with Peruvian Skies. It's great how it's really mellow at the beginning, and at the end, the lyrics are repeated, but with more agression, more passion, a different feeling than the beginning. That's what's amazing. The ability to repeat the same patterns, lyrics even, and completely change the feel of the passage. DT will never cease to amaze me.
If you want a good mood CD, buy 1492 by Vangelis. Man, that thing transports me to another time...it really brings me to that year. It's impressive!! Very powerful.
Vince
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:17:07 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: ATTN Mike Bahr! Message-ID: <007001bdc7a7$5ecb75a0$abc95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
|Hey folks, | This is my first post to the jam, and unfortunately, I just have |some business to take care of. Mike Bahr... Where are you?
hehe, it seems like you've been here for years :)
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Gary Hoey Clinics Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980814120908.3304A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Rhys remarked: > Consider yourself fortunate you were able to see one of my erstwhile > "guitar heroes".
Oh, I am. Trust me on this one. I was disappointed there weren't more people there.
> The guitarists may do a clinic or two - we had Paul Gilbert here > recently - but they are not publicised greatly or held during the > evenings or weekends and are in small music shops which can hold less > than 50 people. An unbearable situation for any fan who works full time.
This one wasn't greatly publicized either. There were flyers in the Guitar Center stores in the area, but that was IT. If I hadn't been in Guitar Center twice in the past month (once for the Portnoy clinic and once to buy myself a new Korg N264) I wouldn't have known about it anyway.
> Anyway, griping over, I'm still trying to get me hands on some of the > earlier Gary Hoey CDs (Ho Ho Hoey, Bug Alley etc) as well as the Heavy > Bones album he appeared on. Does anyone have these and think they could > give an unbiased review ?
Yes to both.
"Ho Ho Hoey": This is a kickass album, like most of Gary's stuff. He played all the instruments and handled the drum programming. It was recorded in his home studio, so he was really surprised with how professional and huge-sounding it came out. It is really an excellent CD, with a cool set of songs. No vocals.
Tracklisting: (* marked for what I think are the best tracks)
The Twelve Days of Christmas Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer * Away In A Manger Jingle Bells * God Rest Blue Christmas O Come All Ye Faithful * White Christmas * Little Drummer Boy * Silent Night Auld Lang Syne
"Bug Alley". Now *this* is an excellent disc. Recorded with fretless bass master Tony Franklin and drum wizard Gregg Bissonnette, the disc opens with a slamming song called "Desire" which adapts J.S. Bach's "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" for guitar (and boy, is it impressive!) All the way through, Gary's trademark sound is indelibly stamped on every track. Brian Setzer plays on the title track ("Bug Alley" was the name of an auto repair garage where Gary rented a room to write the album, and is also where he first met Setzer). Excellent production, with the instruments' mix as near to perfection as is possible.
Oh, and Gary sings on a few tracks on this one! He's really a much better vocalist than many "previously instrumental" guitarists who've decided to try the vocal thing.
Tracklisting: (* marks the best tracks)
Desire * Tribal War Babies Black Magic Woman Yeah * Bug Alley Peace Pipe * Karma Climb Have To Serve Somebody Moustache Muchacho * Coasting The Green Room
Both discs are well worth getting. Check out http://www.hoey.net/ for more info.
Ta, Phil
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: KorgX3 <korgx3@safelink.net> Subject: Re: Blubber Ballet Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980814123507.18839A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> >give a damn either. She's like the fat lady who keeps saying, > >"I am sooooo fat" in the hopes that someone will say, "no, you > > Hey, she could be fat as hell and think she's thin, running around wearing > short skirts, sundresses, tight pants, and shit with corpulant flesh > literally dripping off of her cadaverous body, picking restrictive clothing > out of 10 feet of asscrack most of the day... (shiver) I'd rather listen > to modestly garbed fat women whine anyday. :P
...and on a related story, a few friends of mine want to start a band called "fat women in spandex" - and i've yet to find a good reason why not.
"APPEARING TONIGHT - FAT WOMEN IN SPANDEX."
that's entertainment!
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Eric Paulhus <epaulhus77@hotmail.com> Subject: The National Midnight Spank. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980814123614.18839B-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Could someone please send me the NMS url?? I seem to have lost it.
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:37:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Jason Dolinger <jaybear2112@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ATTN Mike Bahr! Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980814123654.18839C-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> This is my first post to the jam, and unfortunately, I just have > some business to take care of. Mike Bahr... Where are you? > According to your web page, my copy of Virtual Songs was sent out over > a month and a half ago, and I have yet to see it. I've sent three > e-mails to you in this time period, and have not heard back. PLEASE, > let me know what's going on. Thanks.
Oh, didn't you know? He already sent it out! Twice!
:)
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:06:22 -0400 From: "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: No DT in UBL Message-ID: <001a01bdc7a5$dd967bc0$4c18acd1@Customer.in-tech.net>
Sure enough, DT is not in the top 100 anymore, and a search turns up nothing. There is a way to check them out, though. Just go to the last week's top 100 list and check it there. I'm not sure if that will get DT any points towards the list though. Probably not. I'm sure that DT should at least have been somewhere in the top 100 if they stopped it mid-week. I say we all flame those assholes and tell them to shove it up there asses. They should feel priveleged we even visited their crappy site!
Death Lord
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: October. Message-ID: <199808141713.NAA15159@optical.mindstorm.com>
A thousand monkeys in Bj?rnar Bevolden's basement typed:
> Hello ! > Here`s some of the upcoming cd`s: > DESTINY'S END Breath Deep The Dark > ELEGY Manifestation Of Fear > ENCHANT Break
There used to be a list you could subscribe to, that would send out new album news like this every week or so. Anyone know if that list is still around? -d
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:15:47 -0700 From: "Alex Smith" <bacchus@azstarnet.com> To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: smileys Message-ID: <01bdc7a7$2dc6a1a0$5923c5a9@Starnet.azstarnet.com>
<quote> Guys! GUYS!!! Go and take a remedial course in English humour!! Don't you know that smileys are for unthinking lazy people!! Heaven save us from people who take everything literally. </quote>
I'm not English, I'm American. <yuk yuk>
Given the tone of the 'jam lately, I'm afraid I'm gonna piss someone off REALLY easily, thus, I have to account for the fact that some people might just be unthinking literalists....
:-)
Hey, you know, I think this is a far better thing to talk about than the Derek-slept-with-who and the lets-flame-each-other-for-nothing that has dominated the 'jam lately....
Long Live Smileys, Alex Smith bacchus@azstarnet.com
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