YTSEJAM digest 4189

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Aug 17 1998 - 07:58:22 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 4189

    Today's Topics:

      1) New Kid On The Block
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      2) Re: RockOnline chat
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      3) Explorers Club
     by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
      4) Re: Fave keyboard moments
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      5) Met.pt.1 intro/Providence show/boots.
     by Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4186
     by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
      7) lits intro
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
      8) Re: Learning to Live intro - a detailed look
     by Portnoy420@aol.com
      9) Re: Learning to Live intro - a detailed look
     by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
     10) Big Wreck on UBL!
     by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
     11) Re: lits intro
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     12) Re: Rush Production (totally no DT content)
     by "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net>
     13) attn: George!!!
     by "Brendan McCarthy" <brenz@jps.net>
     14) Mike P's Video's
     by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
     15) Platyous Released in Europe Today
     by "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
     16) Used CDs
     by Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
     17) MTV News
     by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 09:21:31 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: New Kid On The Block
    Message-ID: <35D6887B.9AD48006@mol.com.mk>

    Hi all!

    My name is Dushko, 23, from Balkan country named Macedonia. I study
    computer science, 4-th year (1.5 - 2 more to go).
    Huge DT fan naturally. :-)

    Question:
    ANYONE bought Magna Carta's Tribute to Yes? How about some comments on
    it?

    Well, that's all, just a short introduction.

    See ya, Dushko

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 14:29:05 +0200
    From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: RockOnline chat
    Message-ID: <01BDC925.2F394FE0@250.154.dialin.mxs.nl>

      Christian P Kremo wrote :

    > These chats suck! Very poorly organized. Mike & James answered
    > maybe 15 questions max in the course of an hour.

      Mike and James answered 27 questions in exactly 1:07. :)
      For those who missed it, an edited no bullshit version is
      available on UACM... If you want the complete transcript,
      check out RockOnline's website. Thanks go out to Calvin6S
      for providing all the questions and answers. :)

    > If you ever see anything cool on RockOnline again, do yourself
    > a favor and just ignore it.

      D'oh! There will be a Steve Hogarth chat on RockOnline on
      August 25th...
    _____

      Rogerio Brito wrote :

    > Unfortunately, of course. It could be much better, if they
    > were continuously streaming the HTML page... :-(

      Moderated IRC chats is where it's at... Last year we did two
      chats with Fish (ex-Marillion) on the #Freaks channel. People
      had to submit their names 15-30 minutes before the chat. The
      list of names was used to give everyone a turn to ask their
      question LIVE, with only the person asking a question being
      allowed to talk. It was a hell to organize and coordinate,
      but the chats went VERY smooth.

      I'm currently talking with Steve Hogarth (Marillion) about
      doing a similar chat with him in #Freaks, to promote his
      solo album "Ice Cream Genius". :)

      Mark Bredius
      _______________________________________________________
      Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website
      http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
      The Official H Website -- http://www.hogarth.com/steve/

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 08:05:00 PDT
    From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Explorers Club
    Message-ID: <19980816150500.10753.qmail@hotmail.com>

    After two days of continuous listening, I have to say that, for me,
    this is the best album of 98 so far.Like APSoG, this is a one song with
    five parts.YouŽll have to hear it yourself.Buy it! NOW!

    -Ville-

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:03:59 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Fave keyboard moments
    Message-ID: <35D6D8BF.29E684EF@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Sat, 15 Aug
    > From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
    >
    > On last night's episode of the Ytsejam, Christina wrote:
    > Hands down, I'm going with the intro to "Lines in the Sand." It's big,
    > triumphant and totally DEREK!!!
    >
    > I agree. The moment them organs kick in really hit me in the head when I first
    > heard it, and then the big-band thing, wow! Other favorites? If I had to list
    > them all, it would probably take up two digests, but I'll leave you with a few:
    >
    > - the piano part halfway through "Universal Mind" on LTE and "Cartoon Parade"
    > (the whole song) on RMP, both by Jordan Rudess, my god :-)
    > - the intro of LtL, including KevMo's solo
    > - "The Big Blue" Ouverture(very moody stuff) by Eric Serra
    > - "Tubular Bells" by Vangelis, Mike Oldfield's version comes second IMHO
    > - "Lady of the Lake" by Rick Wakeman on TMaLoKAatKotRT (how's that for
    > an acronym?)
    >
    > Just my 2 uh, franks on the subject
    >
    > FiveNgroK

    Some of my faves:

    - Ytsejam keys solo

    That chord strike just before the key solo explodes is simply AWESOME!
    And how can someone not love those rock bending notes Kev does here!
    The guitar solo right after this is quite weird, but the keys are
    straight rockin'.

    - Take The Time keys solo

    Kev rocks the house again! :-) Most powerful key solo I ever heard in my
    life.

    - Steve Vai - Bangkok/Fire Garden Suite (piano solo)

    Great, great piece! What a playing! And then, I opened the CD booklet
    and saw that Vai's playing it!!! Get outta here! :-)
    If you don't know the stuff, FIND IT! :-)

    - Dream Theater - Intro of Love Lies Bleeding/Funeral...

    Very deep, emotional stuff

    - Brand X - every single key note ;-)

                    Dushko

    NP: Eric Clapton - Live Concert

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    Date: 8/16/1998 12:41
    From: Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
    To: undisclosed-recipients:;
    Subject: Met.pt.1 intro/Providence show/boots.
    Message-ID: <199808161642.MAA26686@newman.concentric.net>

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    Hey there,
     Someone, Matt I believe, mentioned that DT played the
    intro to Met.pt.1 at the Providence RI show some years
    back. This is true as I was there for my first of many DT
    shows to come. When they opened with LTL, I nearly took a
    heart attack! That song instantly became my favorite at
    that time.
     It wasn't until I got to the show that I found out that it
    was being broadcast on the radio.
     Does anyone have a good quality boot of this show?
    Possibly on CD? (Bogie?). I'd love to have that show, my
    first, on CD. If anyone can help, please contact me.
     LTL worked great as an opener, I'd like to see them kick
    off a show with that again.

    Later,

    Dave

    CP: Rocket Scientists- "Brutal Architecture"

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 09:52:19 -0700
    From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4186
    Message-ID: <35D70E43.B47@pacbell.net>

    Ibanez506@aol.com shared:
    >

    >
    > << First time poster, long time DT fan.... Yadda yadda yadda....
    >
    > "What's that?" you say. "A FEMALE Dream Theater fan?" GASP AND SWOON!!
    > YES!! A ytsewoman!!! >>
    >
    > Hello, I too am a first time poster and a female fan also. Yes, there really
    > is a female audience out there. Chicks Rule!

    WOO HOO! Add another Lady Jammer to the list. Welcome! Look out
    Guys.....we are taking OVER!

    -- 
    

    Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/

    "Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:29:32 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: lits intro Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980816172932.0068feb4@unet.univie.ac.at>

    damon: >I hope the Lines in the Sand intro is not frm a tape.

    It is.

    DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:44:08 EDT From: Portnoy420@aol.com To: Calvin6S@aol.com Cc: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Learning to Live intro - a detailed look Message-ID: <4de40613.35d7368a@aol.com>

    Right on dude!!!!!! You nailed it right on the head! It's nice to know that all those headaches I give myself trying to mess with odd times and weird phrasings are actually getting noticed and appreciated!

    This is the kind of stuff I talk about at my clinics. You can also find alot of this "fun with numbers" and groove twisting stuff in my drum parts to The Mirror, ACOS, Metropolis, The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun, Lines in the Sand, Scarred & Hell's Kitchen.

    Great post and it's nice to see some REAL DT content here. (sorry Derek!) : )

    Mike Portnoy

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:11:13 +0300 From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Learning to Live intro - a detailed look Message-ID: <35D73CE1.3FEF8F45@netvision.net.il>

    Portnoy420@aol.com wrote: > > Right on dude!!!!!! > You nailed it right on the head! > It's nice to know that all those headaches I give myself trying to mess with > odd times and weird phrasings are actually getting noticed and appreciated! > > This is the kind of stuff I talk about at my clinics. > You can also find alot of this "fun with numbers" and groove twisting stuff in > my drum parts to The Mirror, ACOS, Metropolis, The Ones Who Help To Set The > Sun, Lines in the Sand, Scarred & Hell's Kitchen. > > Great post and it's nice to see some REAL DT content here. (sorry Derek!) : > ) > > Mike Portnoy

    Although I do believe mister Portnoy overplays sometimes, there are some things that seperate him from ordinary metal drummers:

    A. He can build a mood through a song. Listen to the solos in Trial of Tears. This is the kind of drumming I like: he starts with little and ends playing like a spider... or in Paradigm Shift after the first Rudess solo.

    B. He never takes the easy way around.

    C. He replies to posts on the list.

    Way to go Mike,

    -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush | | ICQ #16353527 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | -----------------------------------------------------------------

    In an infinite Universe, there's no such thing as "there's no such thing".

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:32:11 +0300 From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Big Wreck on UBL! Message-ID: <35D741CB.6F0837BC@netvision.net.il>

    Check this out: Big Wreck are the band of the week at UBL!

    -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush | | ICQ #16353527 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | -----------------------------------------------------------------

    In an infinite Universe, there's no such thing as "there's no such thing".

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 18:16:31 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: lits intro Message-ID: <35D75A3E.BD80FDA7@caribe.net>

    Manuel wrote:

    > damon: > >I hope the Lines in the Sand intro is not frm a tape. > > It is. >

    I dont know what show did you watch.. but ive got the Irving plaza nov 22 97 show on video and it is most definately not a tape..

    > DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)

    --

    In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:11:21 -0500 From: "Mike Patrick" <mepatric@indy.net> To: "DT" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Rush Production (totally no DT content) Message-ID: <199808170133.UAA28804@indy1.indy.net>

    >And I can't believe no one has said this yet: Presto album material is >completely absent on the live album. That is ridiculous considering Presto >is the worst produced album of the recent four and could most benefit from >some live treatments.

    You are not worthy to wipe Rupert Hine's arse.

    Mike Patrick Indianapolis, IN mepatric@indy.net

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 22:03:32 -0700 From: "Brendan McCarthy" <brenz@jps.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: attn: George!!! Message-ID: <01bdc99c$6150ac40$c81e8ed1@brenz>

    my friend got 2 angra songs from your web page (speed and paradise). could you please send me your address.

    thank you , brendan

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:50:06 -0700 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mike P's Video's Message-ID: <000001bdc9ab$44a81a60$8a8c15cf@markphil>

    Jam,

    Recently, Mike has mentioned making some instructional videos... I've also heard that JP has one (or more)... Does anyone know where to get these?

    Mark

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    Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 08:46:58 +0100 From: "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Platyous Released in Europe Today Message-ID: <61F3B4EC9D23D11181A0006097AD1D732CA923@skylight.mvt.ie>

    Woo Hoo .... Platypus is being released this morning in Europe (according to UACM) ...

    Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can buy it online ... there's no chance in the world that any store in Ireland would be able to get hold of it.

    Rob. ICQ 809343

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    Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:49:57 -0400 From: Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Used CDs Message-ID: <35D745F5.C20@ix.netcom.com>

    I went to one of the local new/used CD stores (Manifest disks and tapes) today with my trusty list of "to check out" CDs and scored several really good buys. I picked up Ron Thal "Hermit" for $4, Dio "Holy Diver" for $2.50, Royal Hunt "Paradox" was $5, Rush "Power Windows" for $7, James Murphy "Convergence" for $5, Galactic Cowboys "Space in Your Face" for $3 !! Than they gave me a Ozzfest promo with Soulfly, Coal Chamber, Life of Agony, Fear Factory, Spineshank, any several others for free !! I walked out of there with 7 CDs for the low price of only $27.83. Most of these sound good so far. Just a couple of weeks ago, I found Galactic Cowboys self titled, Lemur Voice "Insights", and Altura "Mercy" all used for about $4 each and they all ROCK!!

    Moral: Write down any band you see listed in the JAM and find them in a used store (where you can possibly listen to it first) or look for samples on the net. You'll be surprised to find out how much good music really _IS_ out there !!

    Later, Zildjian

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    Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:34:56 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MTV News Message-ID: <01BDC9E3.D3B8E170@pcnga.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    here is some interesting news for those of you who feel compelled to watch MTV (as opposed to just ignoring it, as all sensible people do).

    http://c3f.com/nty0220.html

    Justa a quickie today (as the bishop said to the actress).

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Roy Harper - Flashes From The Archives Of Oblivion

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