YTSEJAM Digest 4193
Today's Topics:
1) Oh darn...
by Geddy Lee <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
2) Re: Mike and Derek
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
3) Re: [themirror]
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
6) BP's Wakeman
by Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com>
7) CDs for sale
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
8) Legal question
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
9) Re: Cool Derek stuff and Ytsetee's
by Cassiano <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190
by Cassiano <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192
by Ibanez506@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192
by Ibanez506@aol.com
13) Re: This guy Derek...!
by NckyLemons@aol.com
14) German friend selling CD's
by Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
15) Yowzza! Saw somethin' extraordinare
by Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
16) Dammit! I'm on with my real name!
by Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
17) Derek, my boy...
by Geddy Lee <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
18) RE: VAN HALEN CONCERT? WHAT VAN HALEN CONCERT?
by "Frank Benenati" <fmb@newsalert.com>
19) Re: Re: on varied subjects (mostly fave moments)
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:36:39 +0100
From: Geddy Lee <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Oh darn...
Message-ID: <98Aug18.133253gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
I wrote:
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------ =_NextPart_000_01BDCAAA.FDBE4C40--
(or did I?)
Sorry. That will be my last post for a long time. My pride & confidence is gone. Thanks to a machine.
GL
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mike and Derek
Message-ID: <4176-35D969AC-44175@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
<quote>
Portnoy420@aol.com writes:
Great post and it's nice to see some REAL DT content here. (sorry
Derek!)
</quote>
<quote>=A0
NckyLemons@aol.com replied:
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=A0:)
</quote>
<quote>
Amen! I never thought I would live to see Mike and Derek fighting each
other on the jam.
</quote>
How should this match up be settled? Two-out-of-three-falls or No DQ/No
Count-out?
:o)
~BC
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:53:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: [themirror]
Message-ID: <4179-35D96B54-15817@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
<quote>
BTW, anyone have an idea as to why we don't hear DT doing many Rush
covers? (I can't think of any except Tears)
</quote>
I have no I idea, but maybe it has to do with all the Rush/DT
comparisons that pop up all the time? Who knows. Personaly I'd love to
hear DT do full versions of "The Analog Kid" or "By-tor and the Snowdog"
, or maybe a quicker version of "2112".
~BC
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:01:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190
Message-ID: <4178-35D96D05-24227@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
<quote>
blablablablalballballabllalbla....
See it?
</quote>
Um, Derek, you feeling OK? :)
~BC
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:03:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190
Message-ID: <4179-35D96DA6-15829@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
In a post to the 'jam, Derek babbled:
"blablablablalballballabllalbla....
See it?"
Yeah, I see the repeating pattern, but I have no idea what it is
supposed to mean.
~BC "The *ONLY* Webtv Ytsejammer (or the only one who admits it! :)
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:18:26 +0200
From: Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: BP's Wakeman
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980818141826.007a7d00@strix.its.uu.se>
Now, here is a person who has 32 Wakeman albums, i.e. is nuts about the
guy, and then looses all interest in Wakeman's next project because Trevor
Rabin participates! What is this - a taboo game or an interest only in what
names are on the cover of the albums you buy? What about the goddamn music?!
Not that I think the Return To The Center of the Earth sounds like a
particular good idea...but he is a bit short of good ideas, don't you think?
Nah, enough flaming for today.
Stefan
>Now, onto Rick Wakeman. Kick ass. Yeah, I have been told he
>doesn't write much, just keyboard parts to Yes songs...
You mean, he didn't write much with Yes, because he's put out more
than 50 albums and he writes everything on them! I have at least 32,
and still a long way to go!
Just recently I read about his 'Return to the Center of the Earth':
one of the guest musicians is (saddly for me) Trevor Rabin! It seems
that they got along fine on stage during the Union tour, jamming
together. Anyway, I don't like TR, so I've lost all interest in
RttCotE.
BP
Now Playing: Zebra-Zebra
______________________________________________
Stefan Eriksson
e-mail: stefan.eriksson@mindless.com
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Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:19:24 +0200
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: bglist@bigfoot.com, ytsejam@ax.com, savatage@tkl.com
Subject: CDs for sale
Message-ID: <tkubtpitrcj.fsf@zussun4.desy.de>
Hi all,
I have cleaned out some of the CDs that I don't really listen to
anymore. Ok, I don't have prices on these things yet but I thought
that I would put the list out there to see if anyone is interested in
anything. Of course I would prefer to sell them to Germans since the
postage costs would be minimized. Here is the list, of course
everything is in mint condition:
Abstrakt Algebra - Abstrakt Algebra
Accept - Death Row
Arch Rival - Third Degree Burns
Axxis - Kingdom of the Night
Battlefield - Spirit of Time
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire/King of the Dead
Deep Purple - The Battle Rages On...
Dickinson, Bruce - Tattooed Millionaire
Dokken - Dysfunctional
Dokken - Shadowlife
Doro - Love Me in Black
Echolyn - As the World Sampler
Enertia - Momentum
FronTears - Dream Healer
Galactic Cowboys - Space in Your Face
The Gathering - Mandylion
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI
Jag Panzer - Dissident Alliance
Leatherwolf - Leatherwolf
Lethal - Poison Seed
Lord Bane - Age of Elegance
Lordian Guard - Lordian Guard
Loudness - On the Prowl
Magellan - Impending Ascension
Magnum - Wings of Heaven
Marshall Law - Metal Detector
Masquerade - Surface of Pain
Metallica - 08/13/94 Woodstock, NY
Metropolis - Behind Mysterious Walls
Mind Odyssey - Keep it all Turning
Mordred - In This Life
Nevermore - In Memory
Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy
Osbourne, Ozzy - Live & Loud
Powers Court - Powers Court
Pretty Maids - Spooked
Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow
Psychotic Waltz - Bleeding
Riot - Fire Down Under
Riot - Thundersteel
Riot - Inishmore
Samiam - Capsized
Sinner - Germany Rocks - The Best Of
Skyclad - Irrational Anthems
Slayer - Divine Intervention
Soul Cages - Soul Cages
Stormwitch - Priest of Evil
Stream - Nothing is Sacred
Threshold - Extinct Instinct
Tiamat - The Astral Sleep
Tiamat - Clouds
Tiamat - The Sleeping Beauty - Live in Israel
Tiamat - Wildhoney
Venom - Cast in Stone
Viper Brazil - Evolution
Viper Brazil - Live: Maniacs in Japan
Visionary - Visionary
Warlord - Best of Warlord
Widowmaker - Blood and Bullets
Widowmaker - Stand by for Pain
Y&T - Contagious
-- Jason T. Breitweg Jason.Breitweg@desy.de http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg ICQ# 7495933------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Legal question Message-ID: <4176-35D97572-44374@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
I have a serious question here. I'm in the process of writing a story based on an original Transformer I have recently created. I want to base the story on ACOS, and I need to know how far I can go with it without pissing off the band or their legal friends. This will also effect a plot I have based on Metro Pt 1 (and 2 once its released). In both cases, I would like to quote directly from the lyrics. I will be doing the usual disclaimer (as I need to put one in the story to keep from pissing off Hasbro). Is any of this going to be a problem? Mike? Derek?
~BC, creator of the Autobot, "Ytsejam", and as always, the only Webtv Ytsejammer
"The smoke is rising the vision's getting clearer and words become a song in the dreamtime!" ~Ayreon Ayreon@webtv.net Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:35:50 -0500 From: Cassiano <cassi.b@uol.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Cool Derek stuff and Ytsetee's Message-ID: <35D99146.85B8527@uol.com.br>
AL wrote: > > I think I've mentioned this before... > Listen to Trail Of Tears just after 5:30 as Labrie starts with "Hidden by disguise, > stumbling in a world." Derek does some cool shit under Labrie's vocals. > That part gives me goose bumps. > Does anyone else here get a rush out of this part?
Actually I like more of that pretty little solo that comes just *before* that part. Awesome!! Definitely my favorite Derek moment in DT.
[]'s Cassiano
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:44:36 -0500 From: Cassiano <cassi.b@uol.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4190 Message-ID: <35D99354.2277C69A@uol.com.br>
NckyLemons@aol.com wrote: > > blablablablalballballabllalbla.... > See it?
Is this guy a clone or what?? Weird...
Cassiano
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:47:08 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 Message-ID: <f41bd8fc.35d977cd@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-18 07:34:43 EDT, you write:
<< >Moral: The bands get no royalties this way. Way to go. how do you figure that? SOMEONE bought them new. They don't get any royalties FROM YOU, i suppose... but it's not like you're buying the CD illegally or sumfin. Moo. >>
Here is what I do. I check out the used stuff and if I really really like it I get it new that way the band does get the royalties they deserve. Later, Bassgrrl
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:50:31 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4192 Message-ID: <23a61ceb.35d97898@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-18 07:34:43 EDT, you write:
<< Are any of the girl jammers musicians? >>
Yep, I be a bass player. Later, Juli
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:05:33 +0200 From: NckyLemons@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: This guy Derek...! Message-ID: <35D97C1D.4A5404BD@aol.com>
> > blablablablalballballabllalbla.... > > See it? > > We do. Please, cut the crap and so the thing you're good at - play the keys (not the computer's)! > > Good wishes anyway, > > GL of Sweden
Heeeey, Geddy!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
peace, Derek :)
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:04:31 +0100 From: Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: German friend selling CD's Message-ID: <98Aug18.150047gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
> Accept - Death Row /.../ > Iron Maiden - Virtual XI
I do understand why you don't want to keep them!
> Magnum - Wings of Heaven
That, I do NOT understand... >:-(
GL
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:10:44 +0100 From: Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Yowzza! Saw somethin' extraordinare Message-ID: <98Aug18.150657gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
><< Are any of the girl jammers musicians? >> > > Yep, I be a bass player. > Later, > Juli
Holy smoke! A female bass player... AND 'jammer!? Folks, I think we've = found a person who belongs to the ultimate minority on the face of the = Earth!
Will you marry me? :-)
GL
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:13:40 +0100 From: Per Pettersson <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dammit! I'm on with my real name! Message-ID: <98Aug18.150952gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
*blush*
I hate it! That's why I use aliases all the time.
GL or Per Pettersson
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:22:50 +0100 From: Geddy Lee <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek, my boy... Message-ID: <98Aug18.151902gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
> Heeeey, Geddy! > > SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! > > peace, Derek :)
Uh-huh...
Heeeey, Derek, my little friend... your tongue will go black if you say ugly words! :-)
Peas, fleas, knees, niece... peace, I mean.
GL
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:31:19 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@newsalert.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: VAN HALEN CONCERT? WHAT VAN HALEN CONCERT? Message-ID: <000401bdcaac$7be82900$6a88abc7@fmb_newsalert.newsalert>
JKorby1973@aol.com wrote: > > Howdy boys and girls! > I just thought I'd ask anyone out there about the latest Van > Halen tour. > The VH Labor Day gig in Somerset Wis. was cancelled, presumably because of > crappy ticket sales. A local DJ even said that they only sold about 2000 > tickets!! Have there been a lot of cancellations? If not, have > the shows any > of you may have seen had really bad attendance? Any news is appreciated. > Jam on! JK >
There have been stories all over the net of Van Halen cancelling shows due to poor ticket sales. %50 of the european tour was cancelled because of some injury Alex sustained while a drop ceiling fell on him. I don't know if I really believe that too much. It's convenient that Alez got hurt when Van Halen were having trouble filling %20 of a venue. I mean, drop ceiling???? Give me a break....I could throw 5 drop cieling panels on someone and it wouldn't hurt....oh well...who am I to judge!
Getting back to the States, Van Halen has been received with very mixed emotions. Apparently, there have been sections of the US that simply can not sell tickets. This has forced Van Halen to give tousands of tickets to radio stations instead of selling them. I've been told by misguided Van Halen supporters that this is simply because times-are-a-changing. You know, Van Halen has changed and people don't like change. I don't know if you can make it that complicated. We can get very simple here:
-- People don't like the album -- It's not selling at all -- People have reservations about seeing a band support a crappy album -- people simply do not go to the shows.
Now having said all of that, I saw Van Halen with Gary Cherone at Madison Square Garden this past May and the place was sold out. So was Jones Beach Theater (on Long Island) this past Saturday. I only attended the May concert because I thought it sucked. Folks, I've been to more Van Halen concerts than you can shake a stick at....and this past one was the worst one I have ever been to. It's not about change.....it's just plain old bad!!!! That's why I didn't go to the show at the beach.......Who knows.....maybe New York is one of those markets that Van Halen is thriving in.
M O J O M A N
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: we be ytsejamming <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Re: on varied subjects (mostly fave moments) Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980818092216.16359B-100000@gs.bass.org>
I come back from a well-deserved break and find myself maligned. Suddenly, it appears the organ has ceased to be a keyboard instrument. Well, just slap me with a 16' Stop. I guess it's a wind instrument, hmmm? (That for all you novices is sarcasm at its finest.)
Well since you didn't like my opinion on Tony Kaye, I shall be forced to subject you all to another round of "Paul's Opinionated Corner" and fling out a couple more faves, bespattering you all with electronic residue. <villainous laugh> <thunder> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! </thunder> </villainous laugh>
Richard Wright: Sheep Ken Hensley: July Morning Clive Nolan: In the Blink of An Eye
What about fave guitar moments (see what this keyboard thread can spawn?)
Tom Scholz: Peace of Mind Frank Zappa: Watermelon in Easter Hay Jeff Beck: Ballad of Bill Hubbard
Drum moments?
Chester Thompson: Inca Roads Bill Bruford: Discipline
Flute moments?
Ian Anderson: Rare and Precious Chain Peter Gabriel: The Knife
Bass moments:
Tony Levin: Secret World Dude from Primus: Amos Moses
Horn section moments?
Chicago: Beginnings Tower of Power: What is Hip? EWF: Paperlate
This can of course be carried into absurdity-say fave singer strangling a note moment (Bruce Dickinson-Run to the Hills (on A Real Dead One)), etc. NB-this is not meant as encouragement, merely to demonstrate the lengths to which this thread can be taken. Enjoy.
NP: Arena-The Visitor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's thought for the Month:
We all came out to Montreux...
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