YTSEJAM Digest 4198
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Jammers w/ ovaries
by Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net>
2) SETLIST PLEASE!
by "Andrew Moore, IT Adviser" <a.s.moore@anglia.ac.uk>
3) My vision of Hell for Derek
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
4) The drummers of SX....
by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
5) Female UK Jammers?
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
6) Missed information+other little goodies...
by "Jani Liimatainen" <sirjani@hotmail.com>
7)
by "Saxon" <saxon@inreach.com>
8) Re: Geddy on FII
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
9) Faves Medley
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
10) TTT/Freebird
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
11) Second G3?????
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
12) Vai cheats? :-)
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
13)
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
14) Re: Vai cheats? :-)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) Re: WHAT tHE HELL?!
by Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
16) Van Halen....missing Sammy.....blah blah...
by "Frank Benenati" <fmb@newsalert.com>
17) scratching A RASH
by Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:16:43 -0500
From: Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Jammers w/ ovaries
Message-ID: <35DA89EA.BE0EC161@bellsouth.net>
I'm thinking I shouldn't of posted my origional message....
ALL FEMALE JAMMERS:::: PLEASE FORGIVE ME! I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON HOW
DULL OF A PLACE I LIVE!!!!
Paul
drumsrus@bellsouth.net
http://surf.to/thediezmantrio
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:34:28 +0100
From: "Andrew Moore, IT Adviser" <a.s.moore@anglia.ac.uk>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SETLIST PLEASE!
Message-ID: <000001bdcb4c$2df7a7c0$4e2d53c2@btc-pc1.abs.anglia.ac.uk>
Can someone PLEASE!! send me the current set list for the tour with
ELP/DP.
Please don't ignore this (again)!
Andy.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:26:50 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My vision of Hell for Derek
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C341E27B55@ms.kallback.com>
I'm listening to my one and only reggae cd, Bad Boys by Inner Circle,
(you know, the COPS song) and have realized that when Derek
dies and goes to Hell his punishment will be playing keyboards
in a reggae band. Could anything be more boring?!?!
Trevor
who tells people he likes one reggae cd and when people
ask which one he says any one, they all sound the same.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:46:48 +1000
From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The drummers of SX....
Message-ID: <35DA9F08.BCE6241C@winshop.com.au>
Joe D. enquired:
> The guy on TiO left already (Tom Walling)?
Yes, as far as I know. Rullo left after DWoT, was replaced by Walling
for TiO, then Walling left after TiO and now Rullo's back in. Not sure
though if Rullo was originally kicked out or if he left out of his own
will.... likewise I'm not sure if Rullo was invited back or asked to
come back.
There's some guy called Steve here on the list who seems to know about
the wheeling and dealings of SX.... Steve, can you enlighten us?
Cheerin'
Luke.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:05:22 -0400
From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Female UK Jammers?
Message-ID: <199808190605_MC2-567D-1D74@compuserve.com>
Nah, just being silly now.
It's worth a try, can't have these US jammers having all the fun :)
David C.
NP: Primus - Rhinoplasty
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:29:25 PDT
From: "Jani Liimatainen" <sirjani@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Missed information+other little goodies...
Message-ID: <19980819102926.23604.qmail@hotmail.com>
Oh yes!
It's good to be back.Holiday's gone,and it's time to do some serious
work.And of course some serious jam...
I didn't have a chance to use my e-mail during the summer,so I'd wonder
if you could tell me about all the wonderful things I missed...
And please,tell me all about this Age of Impact-thing...
By the way:Has anyone else heard the new Stratovarius EP called "SOS"?
I had the chace to hear it yesterday,and I tought it really wasn't that
good...
The first song,"SOS",or "Save Our Souls",is really good song,with great
melody line,but thats about it then.
The second song,I can't even remember the name,was really shitty.Just
that basic double bassdrum-stuff you'll hear from any band within that
scene.
The third one was a Scorpions cover(!),"Blackout".Stratovarius really
plays the shit out of that song,but I think the voice of Timo Kotipelto
really doesn't fit in that song.It just doesn't sound right...
The last song was called "Years Go By",and it was (of course) a
straight-from-the-heart ballad.The song is boring and doesn't really go
anywhere.a Ballad like "Coming Home" is much better than that.
"Years Go By" sounds as if it really was made just to fill some empty
space...
So,great first song,but otherwise it sucked pretty bad...
By the way,tell me something about Queensryche's
"Operation:Mindcrime".Is it as good as "Empire" is?I have ordered it
couple of months ago,but still haven't received it...
I guess it's time to go now,C-YA!
~Jani~
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:38:49 -0700
From: "Saxon" <saxon@inreach.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <000501bdcb5d$a96e0a00$5763fea9@p200>
I think it's pathetic Dream Theater has to put up with a pathetic list like
this.
DT Rocks, period. Keep James, Portnoy, and the others and we'll be fine.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:20:03 +0200
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Geddy on FII
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980819122003.006c9b8c@unet.univie.ac.at>
>Floyd-ish? What are you on anyway?
i think its floyd like in a way, too. just listen to parts of TOT. also
johns soloing style is going in somewhat gilmour direction, ie very melodic
not racer x like (though i love that racer x style). sometimes you just get
tiny streams of floyd if you listen to fii.
man i LOVE Pink Floyd, so great if DT do so as well.
And i think ive heard John saying it in an interview as well according to
his soloing and the attempt to create solos you can sing along with a real
deep feeling (not only TOT, LitS as well, great thing..)
concerning the producers stuff:
i love I&Ws sound as it is. for me its the best you can make an album of
that musical style sound like.especially that big huge fridge rack guitar
sound totally blows me. on fii things are different. true theres too many
effects on guitars, but live the thing sounds better. not to say that fiis
sound sucks, nah, i like it as well, though when i first heard it it
reminded me of alternative shit (sorry...maybe john should use the triaxis
again...!)
got better anyway, so...
BTW, John is almost GOD.
DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:23:42 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Faves Medley
Message-ID: <35DA291E.E37B92B1@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: on varied subjects (mostly fave moments)
>
> Well since you didn't like my opinion on Tony Kaye, I shall be forced to
> subject you all to another round of "Paul's Opinionated Corner" and
> fling out a couple more faves, bespattering you all with electronic
> residue. <villainous laugh> <thunder> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! </thunder>
> </villainous laugh>
>
> Richard Wright: Sheep
> Ken Hensley: July Morning
> Clive Nolan: In the Blink of An Eye
>
> What about fave guitar moments (see what this keyboard thread can spawn?)
>
> Tom Scholz: Peace of Mind
> Frank Zappa: Watermelon in Easter Hay
> Jeff Beck: Ballad of Bill Hubbard
>
> Drum moments?
>
> Chester Thompson: Inca Roads
> Bill Bruford: Discipline
>
> Flute moments?
>
> Ian Anderson: Rare and Precious Chain
> Peter Gabriel: The Knife
>
> Bass moments:
>
> Tony Levin: Secret World
> Dude from Primus: Amos Moses
>
> NB-this is not meant as encouragement, merely to demonstrate the lengths
> to which this thread can be taken. Enjoy.
Can't help it :-)
Here's just some of mine:
Guitar moments:
Ritchie Blackmoore (DP) - California Jam guitar solo
Brian May (Queen) - Brightn Rock
John McLaughlin & Shakti - Joy
Steve Vai - Audience is listening
Vinnie Moore - With the flow
Frank Zappa - Peaches and Regalia
Drums moments:
Chad Wackerman - Holiday Insane
Michael Shrieve - whole Deep Umbra album
Ian Paice (Deep Purple) solo on California Jam
Bass momenst:
Percy Jones (Brand X) - Not good enough - see me
bass solo on Jean-Luc Ponty - Live '79 album
________________________________________________
Dushko
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:56:15 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TTT/Freebird
Message-ID: <35DA22AF.2EF307F0@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:57:55 +1000
> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dur=E1n/Pulgar?=" <ldbp@rivernet.com.au>
>
> Just a question: I see in the song list, the 4th. song in CD 1:
> Take the Time/Freebird
>
> What's this Freebird? It sounds more like Yes's 'Starship Trooper'
> followed by Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'
>
> That's all, folks!
> BP
Is that from the DT live soon-to-come double CD?
Well, Don't know if I'm right for sure 'till I hear the song, but since
DT cover many legendary songs, I think this is Lynyrd Skynyrd -
Freebird. Great song, BTW, real rockin' stuff!
Someone can confirms this?
Dushko
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:09:56 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Second G3?????
Message-ID: <35DACEA4.1CF65792@mol.com.mk>
> Joe Satriani. This guy is all over the guitar and has fun doing it
> onstage. Its almost like he amazes himself sometimes by the way he laughs.
> I've been near the front at three Satch shows and still can't fathom half
> the stuff he does. [snip]
> A near second is of course Steve Vai [snip]
> on the G3 bill [snip]
>
> Stodgers
Talking about Satch, anybody knows somehtign enw about the new G3 stuff?
I read in guitar magazine few months ago that Joe's gathering again
guitarists. It said that Marty Friedman is sure choice (I think?) and
othee possible choicese was Kenny Wayne Shepard (great guitarist) and...
forgot the rest.
Anyone?
Also, can someone tell me a name of any Kenny Wayne Shepard album? How
many they have? I just saw video clip on TV and LOVED it! Haven't seen
anyone plays so similar to Stevie Ray Vaughan style!
Dushko
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:51:03 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vai cheats? :-)
Message-ID: <35DACA37.89545EDE@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:01:41 EDT
> From: SimonJC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Steve Vai on piano and MP Video
>
> << Steve Vai - Bangkok/Fire Garden Suite (piano solo)
>
> Great, great piece! What a playing! And then, I opened the CD booklet
> and saw that Vai's playing it!!! Get outta here! :-) >>
>
> Actually in an interview I've got he says that he used a computer program that
> allowed him to enter each note one at a time also known as step recording.
OK, I got thr proof I thought doesn't exists! What else to say except
:-(((
And, correct me if I'm wrong but,
Shouldn't it be written in the liner notes that the mentioned piano
piece ISN'T actually PLAYED by Mr. Vai????
That's the point of liner notes after all.
Dushko
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:55:14 +0200
From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980819135514.0069b978@unet.univie.ac.at>
found that about WDADU:
>This album features Charlie Dominci on vocals, and he's pretty bad. He
sounds a >lot like a guy trying to imitate James LaBrie. But despite
Dominici's whining >vocals, John Myung's farting bass, and the guy's armpit
on the cover, this >album contains a lot of well written songs.
(http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~gregie/music.html)
hahaha!
especially that fart sound has some truth to it.
(fuck this bastard who wrote that! WDADU RULES)
"Dream on...
The Starts where the Ends leading you!"
(Symphony X)
DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:03:12 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Vai cheats? :-)
Message-ID: <35DADB20.504E2D21@caribe.net>
Dushko wrote:
>
>
> OK, I got thr proof I thought doesn't exists! What else to say except
> :-(((
> And, correct me if I'm wrong but,
>
> Shouldn't it be written in the liner notes that the mentioned piano
> piece ISN'T actually PLAYED by Mr. Vai????
> That's the point of liner notes after all.
>
> Dushko
Well..hes not lying..because he played the notes.. just one by one! :)
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:05:04 -0500
From: Tom Cox <lexine@rollanet.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WHAT tHE HELL?!
Message-ID: <35DADB90.A5F@rollanet.org>
Saxon wrote:
>
> I think it's pathetic Dream Theater has to put up with a pathetic list like
> this.
> DT Rocks, period. Keep James, Portnoy, and the others and we'll be fine.
Is this guy even on the list? If you are, please pull your head out of
your ass so that I may shove my foot directly up in there. It's size 12
and a half too although judging from your attitude, we might need a
couple more feet for a better fit. Fuckwad...
Ya, DT rocks, So does this list
Keep it up guys, I'm havin a blast :)
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:20:57 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@newsalert.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Van Halen....missing Sammy.....blah blah...
Message-ID: <000801bdcb7c$95711000$6a88abc7@fmb_newsalert.newsalert>
> From: "Jonathan" <Keu@nais.com>
>
> Actully Frank, It would hurt my feelings if you threw cieling
> panels on me!
> =(
If I wanted to hurt your feelings I would've....heh heh
> It's simple. Garry Cherone just plain sucks. WRCN played a recent
> single of
> VH the other day. I listened to it but dont know the name (mailman?) i had
> to turn it off it really sucked bad....
Yeah....that song was "One I want" If I have my memory of Lyrics
correct....The crazy thing is that song is the best song on the album....it
says something...
As for Missing Sammy, Chris Merlo is absolutely correct. I DO miss Sammy
Hagar. Sammy DID give something to Van Halen that David Lee Roth couldn't
and Gary Cherone cant. The fact of the matter was that in 1978-1984 there
were bands that could touch or surpass Van Halen. I could go on for days
naming them. Say what you want, but Van Halen had not reached 'that level'
yet. When Sammy joined the band, they reached an untouchable status. Sammy
sang with more feeling than Dave or Gary could imagine. Now that Gary is in
the group, it's like theve dropped back. I hate to compare music to
baseball again, But I can only imagine watching the Yankees 5 years from
now. I will ALWAYS be comparing that team to the team of 1998. (Unless of
course, the team in 2003 wins more games than the 1998 team, but lets not
fool ourselves).
Gary Cherone is DEFINITELY a good frontman. I have always been a fan of
him in Extreme. When I found out that Gary replaced Sammy, I thought "Well,
better him than someone else"...But I quickly changed my mind. When you
take a singer that sings with as much feeling as Hagar and replace him wth
someone that is a good front man...well....you get Van Halen with Roth....or
in this case Cherone....I remember Eddie Van Halen saying recently that he
didn't want to become a retro act by reuniting with Roth. (one of his
reasons for not letting Roth stay 2 years back). Unfortunately, Ed turned
Van Halen into a Retro act anyway.
Chris, it's rather shallow of you to think that Van Halen is about Eddie.
Sure, I used to feel the same way....until the day I listened to VH3. The
day I realized that Van Halen was missing something serious without Sammy
Hagar.
Oh...one more thing.....
Damon wrote:
>
> Ed is a good keyboardist? Hmmmm, let's analyze the keyboard stuff I know.
> Ed is not a Derek or a Kevin More. Jump? <{SNIP}>
That song and others by Van Halen (i.e. Right Now, When its love, Why cant
this be love) paved the way for keyboardists like Kevin Moore and Derek
Sherinian to do what they do. Don't bite the hand that carries the fridge
into your livingroom!
Nuff Said,
The almighty M O J O M A N
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:52:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Muise <lockheed@tiac.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: scratching A RASH
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.980819103604.16135A-100000@sunspot.tiac.net>
ok look d0od... ya really need to pop a ritalin or at least put the lil
glass pipe down... jammers don't let jammers post stoned..
here's an example of what you see in an average post
ALBUM REVIEW- DT: LIVE AT THE MARQUEE
1.metropolis, it was good.. it was long.. it was a very nice liove song..
i don't think petrucci had on his lucky undies this night becaus ehe
seemed to delay on chord such and such in 4:05 of the song and it wasn't
as enjoyable as i would htink.. but i liked it..
2.A fortune in lies. it was good, charlie can't sing.. he was in the badn
once.. but he got kicked out for his strange obsession with pez
dispensers, licorice flavored lubricant, and joebob the roadie.
3. bombay vindaloo, it was good.. bombay is a place thats not in america..
i've been there once.. i got my nipples pierced to my scrotum there...
nice song that was playing there in the shop..
4.surrounded, didn't like it, its a slow song.. reminds me that i haven;t
had pussy since pussy had me.. and that isn't a good thing..l damn i gotta
lay off the masturbation addiction.
5.another hand-the killing hand, refer to above said addiction
6 pull me under, it was good.. my priest played this song to me before he
took my boyish cherry.. i guess it was a song from me to him.. cos he sure
did pull me under... and over... and in.. and out.. and oh lord.. i'm a
bit moistened..
now see ? do ppl really wanna know what ya thought about every damn song ?
maybe i'm just annoyed that i have to fukkin scroll down pages and pages
to get past your post.. but i dunno...
and my main criticism.. YOUR FUCKING SIGNATURE...
how do you know your signature is too big
.if its longer than your penis..your signature is too big
if the constitution pales in comparison..your signature is too big
.if your hand cramps up every time you add something to it..your
signature is too big
.if you notice that your space bar is worn out BECAUSE OF ALL THE FUCKING
ON SPACES AND DOUBLE SPACING YOU USE..your signature is too big
if you advertise more webpages than yahoo..your signature is too big
KO and thats about it.. just my thoughts to make your day brighter and to
voiuce what everyone says on #ytsejam... cos you can never go too far =)
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