YTSEJAM Digest 4199
Today's Topics:
1) WANTED: DEREK IMPOSTER: REWARD!!!!
by NckyLemons@aol.com
2) re: Symphony X drummers
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
3) S-X drummers oops; re: Queensryche's O:M
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
4) SAN FRANCISCO SHOW
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
5) South america.. questions
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
6) You guys need to check this band out!!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
7) Geddy Flea
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
8) Re: scratching A RASH
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
9) Re: Legal question
by Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
10) Some Enchanted Evening...
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
11) Attempting a new thread..... :)
by "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com>
12) UK jammers
by Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4198
by NckyLemons@aol.com
14) .....
by Madsag@aol.com
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4197
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
16) 2 things
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194
by PoetsImage@aol.com
18) Re: YTSEJAM personals
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:16:31 EDT
From: NckyLemons@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WANTED: DEREK IMPOSTER: REWARD!!!!
Message-ID: <ea0841cd.35daec50@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/19/98 4:42:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:24:48 -0300 (EST)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Derek's imposter...
Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.3.96.980818232030.1664F-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Ok, I was reading both posts from Derek more carefully and
discovered a difference between the headers: the message posted by the
"fake" Derek use Netscape, while the message posted by the "real" Derek
mas composed by a AOL program.
Hope it can help you in some way, Roger...
>>
Roger,
Thank you so much for taking the time to validate my claim. It is scary
because this person can do real damage to someone if they want.
I would like to declare a bounty on the imposter: FREE DREAM THEATER TICKETS
FOR LIFE to the person who successfully exposes and brings in the fake Nicky
Lemons.
you have my word.
thank you again Roger, Derek Sherinian
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:38:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: Symphony X drummers
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980819113422.5829B-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
After reading my musings on the "drummers of Symphony X" mess, Joe D.
inquired:
> The guy from TiO (Tom Walling) left already?
According to sometime 'jammer Steve Vogel, who works with Russell at a day
job, Tom left the band because he had "commitments" which would keep him
from touring. So Jason Rullo rejoined. I don't know the circumstances
because I was already off the Symphony X mailing list by the time this
discussion started.
Steve, you still on here? What's the story?
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"I should never have written all those tank programs."
-- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"
Currently playing: Stratovarius -- "Visions"
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:56:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: S-X drummers oops; re: Queensryche's O:M
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980819113930.5829C-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Woops. Somebody already answered the Symphony X query I just posted about.
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.
Jani inquired:
> By the way,tell me something about Queensryche's
> "Operation:Mindcrime".Is it as good as "Empire" is?I have ordered it
> couple of months ago,but still haven't received it...
Good to have you back on the list, Jani.
In answer: No, it's not as good. It's better. "Operation: Mindcrime" is
one of my top ten discs of all time as far as prog music goes. (It's also
one of the best concept discs ever, but that's another story). Fantastic
melodic twin-guitar attack, a complex and intriguing story, and Geoff Tate
at the absolute tip-top of his vocal power. When (and if) it finally
arrives, you'll be kicking yourself for overlooking it so long.
Dushko inquired:
> Also, can someone tell me a name of any Kenny Wayne Shepard album? How
> many they have? I just saw video clip on TV and LOVED it! Haven't seen
> anyone plays so similar to Stevie Ray Vaughan style!
Yes, and that's the main problem most people have with KWS. I think he's
extraordinarily talented, meself. The boy does need to find his own voice,
though; he does Stevie Ray excellently well, but he doesn't need to copy
anyone's tone, as he's good enough to stand on his own.
Ah well. He's still young; plenty of time to find his own voice. It took
Petrucci a while too.
Kenny Wayne Shepherd's latest album is called "Trouble Is". It's worth
picking up.
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"I should never have written all those tank programs."
-- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"
Currently playing: Dokken -- "Beast from the East"
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:11:18 EDT
From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SAN FRANCISCO SHOW
Message-ID: <71cf0bdc.35daf927@aol.com>
Okay Jammer. . .
Whoever e-mailed me about Ytsejammers getting together before/after/during the
Dream Theater show in San Francisco, please e me directly. The time has now
come for planning this get together.
Also, same goes for LA folks. I will be there two nights later 8/30 to see
Dream Theater there also.
Laters,
_____Nikki______________________
~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~
~~I'm Learning to Live. --J. Myung~~
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:16:27 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: South america.. questions
Message-ID: <35DAFA5B.7DF92B45@caribe.net>
Hi,
if anyone on the band can answer this but i read somewhere you guys
were heading to south america in sept and do possible shows on mexico
and Puerto Rico.... can anyone confirm this? Derek ? mike?
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com
Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:26:15 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: You guys need to check this band out!!!
Message-ID: <35DAFCA6.1494935F@wezl.org>
I just got a submission request on "Progressive Genius" from a band
called Timeshpere. They are from Germany, and Kick TOTAL ass!!! I would
put them up there with Shadow Gallery, Superior, and Savatage...along
with DT...VERY good musicianship! They are site #87 in the ring, or you
can visit their page at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6239/time.html
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:28:21 -0800
From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Geddy Flea
Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA101D9C6B6@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
The imposer freaked as thus:
> Put away FII and listen to I&W, "Awake" or Genesis' "A Trick of the =
> Tail". Now THAT are albums!!!
>
> Shirley sucks,
>
> GL "Alive at both ends but a little dead in the middle"
>
listen, testicle mosquitoe. i'm sick and tired of hearing people trash
on what KS did with processing and stuff. let's ask ourselves a
question. if the band didn't like the changes he made, would they keep
him or the changes themselves? i highly doubt it. i also doubt that
your opinion will have any bearing on future releases. if you don't
like FII, fine. but keep it to yourself. this is a DT mailing list,
not a forum for you to spead your disease.
you have your opinion of what the music is like , that's fine. opinions
are something you have when you don't have all the facts. when you have
all the facts, you don't need an opinion. to tell us that shirley sucks
is quite the assumption and i think that his sexual preference should be
respected just as we respect dereks. as far as his skills in mixing and
producing, could you do better? that's not even a question worth
asking. of course you can't.
i.e. shut up, insect. you bother me, i'm sure you bother others.
get a real alias and quit defaming a real artist. the real geddy lee is
a great person, you, on the other hand, are lint.
-= norg =-
*asshole-ripping mode off*
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:34:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: scratching A RASH
Message-ID: <14162-35DAFE78-881@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
<quote>6 pull me under, it was good.. my priest played this song to me
before he took my boyish cherry.. i guess it was a song from me to him..
cos he sure did pull me under... and over... and in.. and out.. and oh
lord.. i'm a bit moistened..</quote>
After reading this, I just had to respond. I will *never,
EEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRR*, listen to this song in the same light
again!! :o)
~BC, the only Webtv Ytsejammer
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:42:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (BC: Webtv Ytsejammer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Legal question
Message-ID: <14160-35DB0088-1752@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
<quote>
I have a serious question here. I'm in the process of writing a story
based on an original Transformer I have recently created. I want to base
the story on ACOS, and I need to know how far I can go with it without
pissing off the band or their legal friends. This will also effect a
plot I have based on Metro Pt 1 (and 2 once its released). In both
cases, I would like to quote directly from the lyrics. I will be doing
the usual disclaimer (as I need to put one in the story to keep from
pissing off Hasbro). Is any of this going to be a problem? Mike? Derek?
</quote>
I'm going to take it by the lack of responce to my post that this is OK.
~BC, the only Webtv Ytsejammer
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
Ayreon@webtv.net
Ayreon@dreamcastrocks.com
Ayreon2000@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:47:56 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Some Enchanted Evening...
Message-ID: <004801bdcb91$dc708520$4bf086cc@korgx3>
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :-((((((( Where do you have this information ?
http://www.ccnet.com/~theoasis
It's the official Enchant page. It's under Accounts I think. It's always
out of date, though. Inside Out has more current info, but I don't know
their URL.
>As far as I know, Michael Geimer was allready out of the band once in 1995.
Benignus IS Mike Geimer. :D You probably knew that, but your wording made
it sound otherwise. :) According to the site (the way I remember it), Mike
left the band after the Dream Theater tour in April this year.
>Ed Platt has left the band early this year and now this :-(((((((((((
Ed left? Faugh! I missed that one! (begs for spandex bitch to get off the
'net. Work sucks.)
>Btw, Korgx3 didn't you had an Enchant page which was 10000 x better than
the >official one which still says "The band will record the new album in
summer or >something".
Ummm... I don't remember making that........ Well, I guess I did. I've
finally had upload access for a few months now, but have been too lazy to
redesign the page. :\ I started working on it last week as a matter of
fact. I'm planning on upping it very soon. It'll now be called Purely
Enchant. Keep an eye out.
Fuck, I hope Ed's not out, too! Gaaaahhh...
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:02:41 PDT From: "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Attempting a new thread..... :) Message-ID: <19980819170242.22222.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey jammers,
What's up? My cousin and I were just hanging out the other day, and we started to wonder about big name bands that had a big impact on how music is today. And we came to the startling conclusion that most of them were British. If you have any insight, or you think I'm crazy, please let me know. But here's what we came up with.
The Beatles Pink Floyd Led Zeppelin Genesis Yes Rolling Stones Rush (Canadian) AC/DC (Australian) Elton John Deep Purple
As for the American influences, we couldn't really come up with any big ones that were before the British ones.
Elvis (The whole pop thing) Michael Jackson (pop thing again) Van Halen (possibly infulenced by Zeppelin, or another British band?)
Maybe I just can't think of any, but every time I do, it usually stems back to a British band. Any thoughts on this?
Vince
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:03:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: UK jammers Message-ID: <19980819170352.4793.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
Hi there, Are there any UK jammers out there (apart from Simon Christie and Keith Lambert) who want to trade some DT stuff?
Plus is there anybody out there who has some Mr. Big/Paul Gilbert and/or John Sykes/Thin Lizzy/Whitesnake boots?
News-Paul Gilbert will release another solo album in the autumn/fall. - Eric Martin band are playing in San Francisco soon
Cheers and beers
Simon
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:00:17 EDT From: NckyLemons@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4198 Message-ID: <56748af9.35db12b2@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/19/98 1:53:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< I'm listening to my one and only reggae cd, Bad Boys by Inner Circle, (you know, the COPS song) and have realized that when Derek dies and goes to Hell his punishment will be playing keyboards in a reggae band. Could anything be more boring?!?! >>
boring maybe...but there will always be great pot around!!! Derek
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:03:59 EDT From: Madsag@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ..... Message-ID: <7bddb595.35db1391@aol.com>
paul wrote: ***ALL FEMALE JAMMERS:::: PLEASE FORGIVE ME! I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON HOW DULL OF A PLACE I LIVE!!!!***
no offense taken. =)
then trevor wrote: ***I'm listening to my one and only reggae cd, Bad Boys by Inner Circle***
honey, go get you some Bob Marley and some Steel Pulse
after that, jani wrote: ****By the way,tell me something about Queensryche's "Operation:Mindcrime".Is it as good as "Empire" is?I have ordered it couple of months ago,but still haven't received it...***
it is about 90492038402938402938 times better than Empire. (seriously, i did the math)
out of nowhere, some freak named saxon wrote *****I think it's pathetic Dream Theater has to put up with a pathetic list like this.*****
waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh. /me passes Saxon a lolly. if you dont like the list, get the fuck off. GOD.
in addition, the almighty mojoman wrote *****Sammy DID give something to Van Halen that David Lee Roth couldn't and Gary Cherone cant*****
yes. its called THE CHEESE FACTOR.
David Lee Roth will always be the true voice of VH to me, no matter how washed up he is now, no matter how many casinos in Vegas he plays, no matter how much of his blonde mane is gone. (i have heard samples of his latest offering and they suck ass too). Dave was the man, and you all know it. It simply amazes me that anyone would prefer Sammy over anyone, he sucked all the cool right out of VH. i swear you people are on the hardcore chronic. but, to each his own, if yall like a big cheeseball fronting your band, then hey, more power to you. ; )
i would rather Gary Cherone was still with Extreme, everything i have heard off this latest Van Halen cd is just awful. Thats not the same Gary on that cd.
out of the depth of the EOJ, robert posted *****snips critique of Arash*******
i will agree with you on one thing. that signature is WAY WAY WAY too long. however, i am far more annoyed with MIME shit (which seems to be vanishing, thank GOD) and people who snip ENTIRE POSTS and quote them. THAT is truly annoying.
i am not PMS'ing i swear to GOD heh. -melissa madsag@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:32:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4197 Message-ID: <19980819183256.21607.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com>
> The vocal medloy isn't good. Thr keys are totaly in the background. > And the song is only 4:33 min long ! > I also know that the title track "Break" is only 5:03 min long ! >
Oh My God! And we all know the length of a song is always in proportion to how good it is!! SHIT!!
:/ Ern
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:30:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 2 things Message-ID: <19980819183023.29255.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>
1. Could someone be so kind as to review Fear Factory's 'Obsolete'? I'm mostly interested in how they've changed since their last album, or if it's pretty much the same thing.
2. Knowing how big a Zappa fan Matt Groening is, and having seen his 'Life in Hell' FZ comic on the web, I was wondering if there have ever been any references to Zappa on the Simpsons...any die-hard Simpsons fans know?
poodle-doo, Ern
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:48:45 EDT From: PoetsImage@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194 Message-ID: <77d1c32f.35db1e0e@aol.com>
take me off the list, damn it!!!!
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:52:31 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM personals Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980819145231.007a8380@pop3.afn.org>
>Wow, the Jam as a meat market? In that case... > >SW ProgGrrrl, 24, blond/blue with a bachelor of music ISO ProgGuy. Glad >to say I didn't get into DT and other prog because of a guy....
How about the Ytsejam personals? Me: SWM, 26, calico/hazel, short, ugly, poor, sensitive, affectionate, boring, sick, overeducated nerd. You: anyone.
Hehehehe. Sounds like it'll go over like a lead balloon.
NP: Damn the Machine
- Against a Sickness: To the Female Double Principle God http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664
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