YTSEJAM Digest 4196
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193
by "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
2) Damon sez:
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194
by Jason Earle <026831@bah.com>
4) Re: Steve Vai on piano and MP Video
by SimonJC@aol.com
5) Exposing the Imposter
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
6) Would the real Derek please stand up?
by "Eric Paulhus" <epaulhus77@hotmail.com>
7) Interview..james and mike :)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
8) shirt sizes
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
9) John Myung and the Bass Tab book
by YtseJamJMB@aol.com
10) Re: John Myung and the Bass Tab book
by "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
11) Spocks Beard Live Double Set
by prog-junkie@cyberdude.com
12) Re: Lady Jammers
by AnalogGal@aol.com
13) Re: Nicky Lemons for prez
by AnalogGal@aol.com
14) Piano not by Vai???
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
15) Re: CONCERT REVIEW: Van Halen @ Jones Beach
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
16) Fire Garden; Met 1 intro
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
17) DT at Guitar Center Hollywood
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193
by "Jonathan" <Keu@nais.com>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193
by Ibanez506@aol.com
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193
by Ibanez506@aol.com
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194
by Ibanez506@aol.com
22) Re: Interview..james and mike :)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:57:18 +0000
From: "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193
Message-ID: <35DA4D1B.7EF34B0@mindspring.com>
>> I would advise anyone who is anyone to buy MORDRED - IN this life and LORDBANE from Jason. They both
rock hard. MORDRED had to be one of the most under-rated and talented bands around at the time, and way
ahead of their time. Just thought I'd throw that nut from the tree.....
Scott M.
http://www.mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:13:58 -0800
From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Damon sez:
Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA101D9C6B0@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
> From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
> Subject: Re: Nicky Lemons for prez
>
> Hell, I'd vote for him. Besides, sax players blow anyway. Screw
> Clinton.
>
funny you should mention that...
-= norg =-
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:24:05 -0400
From: Jason Earle <026831@bah.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194
Message-ID: <35D9E2E5.FDF2FC86@bah.com>
> Heeeey, Geddy!
>
> SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
>
> peace, Derek :) >>
>
> Hello this is the real Derek. There is an imposter, I never sent
> either of
> these posts, someone has figured out a way to forge my Address
> somehow, I am
> asking you to stop now!!! That is totally FUCKED of you to do
> this......
> Derek
>
Maybe it's John Myung just working out some frustration.whoa! Forget
Portnoy vs. Derek in a fight...Picture this: members of dream Theater
participating in hack war 98!
Sherrinean: "I'll just post LaBrie's e-mail addy to the gay porn mailing
list..."
Petrucci: "Yeah, we'll see how cool mr. Portnoy is now that he has 27
counts of animal molestation on his criminal record..."
La Brie: "I'd like 27 Sparc mainframes delived to a my adress...my name
is John Myung..."
Go for it, dudes! ;>
By the way, that sucks that someone is spoofing your e-mail. Kick his
ass!
-Da YtseLooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:01:41 EDT
From: SimonJC@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Steve Vai on piano and MP Video
Message-ID: <bd1aa72f.35d9ebb6@aol.com>
<< Steve Vai - Bangkok/Fire Garden Suite (piano solo)
Great, great piece! What a playing! And then, I opened the CD booklet
and saw that Vai's playing it!!! Get outta here! :-) >>
Actually in an interview I've got he says that he used a computer program that
allowed him to enter each note one at a time also known as step recording.
MP already has a tuition video out. It was origionally only released in Japan
but is now available world wide. It's meant to be extremely good and some
people on the jam have it so maybe they could say more since I am interested
in either buying it or trying to get a local library to get in, even though I
don't play drums I'm interested from a composing point of view.
JP has a tuition video out called "Rock Disipline" it lasts a cool 2hrs, and
is well worth buying.
JM also has a video out but I can't remember what its called and I haven't
heard a review of it but I imagine it's amazing!
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:11:40 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Exposing the Imposter
Message-ID: <005001bdcaec$ceb06040$4bf086cc@korgx3>
>Now this is one of the more retarded things I've heard on here. Yeah
>sure we want a Derek vs Mike flame war..oh make the band break up..hmm
>no more Dream Theater. Right. (sarcasm of course)
Speaking of bands breaking up, why didn't anyone mention anything about
Benignus (Mike Geimer) leaving Enchant?!?!? Holy shit! No wonder Arash was
saying they sounded more alternative. I think Mike added alot of the
ambience to the band. That really sucks. Not that the other guys can't
write anything, I'm sure... But just listen to Mettle Man and you'll see
what Benignus added. :P It says they had to sequence all of the key parts
fro the new album. Ick. >P
/me feels like trying out for the open spot... :)
> ...a few days ago, some person named "Tigger" on here *did* say
>that they were going to impersonate someone. Now, i didn't think it's be
>good 'ole Derek, but I did see it coming.
Blah. That was me. I thought finding out was easy enough. I am NOT the
imposter, and i am NOT Derek. So there. I did the Tigger thing last year,
too, and Bafu exposed me faster than Paul Reubens in a XXX movie. You can
just view properties on my letter and it says "korgx3" in it. An' I never
posed as Derek, either.
>Hell, I'd vote for him. Besides, sax players blow anyway. Screw Clinton.
Fuck you, too, Damon! :)
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:14:53 PDT From: "Eric Paulhus" <epaulhus77@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Would the real Derek please stand up? Message-ID: <19980818221454.6942.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello out there in jam land...
I must admit a certain confusion lately... I see posts that are Derek, I see posts that aren't Derek... I see funny little green men... wait a minute...
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is... whoever the real Derek is, please make it clear or something. Whoever is an imposter, knock it off. You're only causing confusion. I can confuse myself just fine thankyouverymuch.
--Eric--
NP: Savatage, "Ghost in the Ruins" (Criss Oliva live tribute)
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:05:33 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Interview..james and mike :) Message-ID: <35DA08BC.B7FACCAE@caribe.net>
On their rockonline interview...:
BAILLY: Paris, Why are DT members so involved in the internet thing ? Cause the fans are pretty lucky about that!!
James: I think it's something alot of people are interested in..For me, I like to see what's happening and it's very easy to access whatever you're interested in... Are fans are soo into it, so to be introduced to DT, it's a great thing...Cyber Moon is an amazing website..So we are lucky..
Ok.. itchy.. did he actually say this.. or were you having fun when editing the interview?? :) :)
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:46:56 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: shirt sizes Message-ID: <35DA126F.4ED4A566@bigfoot.com>
I'm calling the printer wed. morning to change the number of shirt sizes, based on what people have been asking for. Mainly, XXL is a lot more popular than I thought it'd be. So if you want to be taken into consideration, e-mail me quickly. If you already have, no need to again. I gotcha.
-- ................................................................. Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com Razi on IRC & ICQ Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:43:10 EDT From: YtseJamJMB@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: John Myung and the Bass Tab book Message-ID: <5855bda.35da118f@aol.com>
How about everybody Email Mark Bredius and ask him to tell John Myung to make a bass tablature book. I think if Myung knows that a lot of people want it. He might just make one. So just Email Mark and tell him what ya think.
Later
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:51:23 -0700 From: "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: John Myung and the Bass Tab book Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980818165119.00f59bc4@lainet.com>
At 04:57 PM 8/18/98 -0700, you wrote: > >How about everybody Email Mark Bredius and ask him to tell John Myung to make >a bass tablature book. I think if Myung knows that a lot of people want it. >He might just make one. So just Email Mark and tell him what ya think. > >Later
I think the worst thing you could do is flood MARK with all these messages. Mark isn't the one who answers to or for the band. Don't waste Mark's time with this. Get ahold of the company that makes the videos/books themselves!
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: prog-junkie@cyberdude.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spocks Beard Live Double Set Message-ID: <199808190014.UAA07477@web01.globecomm.net>
Fans of Spock's Beard should check out the site below where you will find information regarding a VERY limited live double set. MP3 sound samples are now available for your listening pleasure. Hope fans find this helpful.
http://members.tripod.com/~Autumn_Leaf_Records/
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:15:21 EDT From: AnalogGal@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lady Jammers Message-ID: <b270c4c4.35da191a@aol.com>
In a message dated 8/18/98 7:34:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Paul fanguy writes:
<<Every girl I have met has heard of DT through their boyfriend or something like that, of course, I have never met a real female musician.>>
Well, I might be a fan of great music, but I'm not a musician. Unless you consider singing at the top of my lungs and banging on my steering wheel as "Metropolis" rattles the windows of my car a musical talent. Most people just think this is kooky, but screw them! :)
<<All I can say is, that is so cool. >> :::::Blush:::: Aw, shucks! 'Twernt nuthin!
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:21:16 EDT From: AnalogGal@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Nicky Lemons for prez Message-ID: <ba2d2457.35da1a7d@aol.com>
AL, the YTSE Progtologist writes:
<< Christina the Analog gal wrote: >Nicky Lemons for President!! Hell Yeah! You know Nicky will admit to getting his horn blown.>>
:::chuckle:::: Just his HORN?????
Christina "Nicky played guitaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa!!!"
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:21:12 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Piano not by Vai??? Message-ID: <35DA1A78.A71F5EB3@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 01:24:13 -0400 > From: Andrew Martin <andy@chelmsford.com> > Subject: Steve Vai - Bankok/Fire Garden Suite > > Yeah, after hearing the piano/guitar doubling during the fire garden suite I was > blown away. After checking the linear notes I couldn't believe that Vai played the > piano as well as the guitar. I was gonna commit suicide because my life was so > worthless, then I found out that all the piano was done on a sequencer. Oh well, now > he only has his meager guitar skill to rely on...
Now wait a minute! Can you please make it clearer, Andrew? So, Vai isn't playing that part himself? Sorry for the trouble! :-)
Dushko
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:38:32 -0400 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CONCERT REVIEW: Van Halen @ Jones Beach Message-ID: <19980819003719.DCZM20964@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, I'll be the first to say I hate the new album, and the first to say I miss Sammy. But the latter has nothing to do with the former. I am a HUGE Extreme fan, but Gary's voice has none of the dynamics on "3" that it had on any Extreme album. It's flat, raspy, and one-dimensional. Musically, this album sounds like it could have been released right after VHII, which is NOT a compliment. The songs show none of the maturity that was apparent on the last two albums. As for seeing VH live, I've seen them four times, and only on one of those occasions was it a noteworthy performance. The F.U.C.K. tour was great, with excellent song selection and some interesting covers. But on the Balance tour, it was like hearing VH's greatest hits, plus some new material. Plus, due to the band's injuries, there was little movement on stage by either Eddie or Alex. I have never been to a worse concert by a major name band save one, Aerosmith. After seeing VH at Great Woods in 1996, I vowed never to pay for a concert ticket of theirs again. BUT: Then Gary joined the band and before I heard the new album, I had high hopes. Then the band said on the tour they would play a lot of old stuff. I thought, maybe it would be worth it. One listen to How Many Say I solidified my earlier stance. This band is not worth a $30 ticket. As for Eddie being the reigning king of rock guitar: no way. I was an ardent fan since my early teens, and looked forward to every new album. That is far from the case now. I haven't played that disc since the first month I had it, and unlike past albums, I never bothered trying to learn any songs on this disc. The reigning king is a title I wouldn't hand out easily anymore. While Eddie may be fun to watch on stage, his playing is far from inventive anymore. Petrucci may be an incredible musician and songwriter, but he's like a statue on stage. My pick? Joe Satriani. This guy is all over the guitar and has fun doing it onstage. Its almost like he amazes himself sometimes by the way he laughs. I've been near the front at three Satch shows and still can't fathom half the stuff he does. Plus, his albums feature constantly inventive work, as in the implementing of a whammy pedal on the last two albums. While Diamond Darrell and Tommy Morello just play notes and rock the treadle, Joe actually uses it to harmonize rhythms at upper octaves (see Raspberry Jam Delta V). This is downright amazing. A near second is of course Steve Vai. His studio work is consistently progressive, but his live shows are pure primadonna work. I liked seeing him the two times I did, but if he weren't on the G3 bill, I wouldn't have paid for him a second time. But he still blows Eddie away.
Stodgers
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:41:30 -0400 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fire Garden; Met 1 intro Message-ID: <19980819004017.DEKN20964@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, And on a by the way note, though the piano on Fire Garden Suite is sequenced, when this was performed live Mike Kenneally played all the keys right along with Steve. This was quite a mind-blower. Just an FYI. And as for the Met 1 intro being played live, I saw DT in early July of 1993 and the intro was pre-recorded. They played this as the concert opener in Agawam, MA (Riverside Park), and proceeded to play every song off I&W, plus To Live Forever, Eve, and A Fortune in Lies. Another FYI.
Stodgers
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:52:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT at Guitar Center Hollywood Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980818174828.20662A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
According to the ad in the LA times on Sunday, DT and Steve Morse will be at the Guitar Center in Hollywood Aug 30th afternoon before the show.
If I were DT, I would make the salespeople kiss my ass because they are always trying to rip you off.
Also around the same time, I should be seeing RATT and CINDERELLA on tour on the Sunset Strip. It doesn't get any better. Maybe I should also hit up the seventh veil!!
Now playing: TESTAMENT- Practice what you preach
-- Conrad Chi uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:05:31 -0400 From: "Jonathan" <Keu@nais.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193 Message-ID: <002b01bdcb0d$772b9440$934cfdcc@jonathag>
>From: "Frank Benenati" <fmb@newsalert.com> >Subject: RE: VAN HALEN CONCERT? WHAT VAN HALEN CONCERT? > > There have been stories all over the net of Van Halen cancelling shows due >to poor ticket sales. %50 of the european tour was cancelled because of >some injury Alex sustained while a drop ceiling fell on him. I don't know >if I really believe that too much. It's convenient that Alez got hurt when >Van Halen were having trouble filling %20 of a venue. I mean, drop >ceiling???? Give me a break....I could throw 5 drop cieling panels on >someone and it wouldn't hurt....oh well...who am I to judge! > Actully Frank, It would hurt my feelings if you threw cieling panels on me! =(
>Halen supporters that this is simply because times-are-a-changing. You >know, Van Halen has changed and people don't like change. I don't know if
>Now having said all of that, I saw Van Halen with Gary Cherone at Madison >Square Garden this past May and the place was sold out. So was Jones Beach >Theater (on Long Island) this past Saturday. I only attended the May >concert because I thought it sucked. Folks, I've been to more Van Halen >concerts than you can shake a stick at....and this past one was the worst >one I have ever been to. It's not about change.....it's just plain old >bad!!!! That's why I didn't go to the show at the beach.......Who >knows.....maybe New York is one of those markets that Van Halen is thriving >in.
It's simple. Garry Cherone just plain sucks. WRCN played a recent single of VH the other day. I listened to it but dont know the name (mailman?) i had to turn it off it really sucked bad....
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:14:56 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193 Message-ID: <739536d3.35da2711@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-18 11:42:28 EDT, you write:
<< Amen! I never thought I would live to see Mike and Derek fighting each other on the jam. </quote> How should this match up be settled? Two-out-of-three-falls or No DQ/No Count-out? :o) ~BC >> I'm thinkin Celeberity Deathmatch 2000. Now wouldn't that be interesting!!??
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:21:10 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4193 Message-ID: <d0762515.35da2887@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-18 11:42:28 EDT, you write:
<< Holy smoke! A female bass player... AND 'jammer!? Folks, I think we've = found a person who belongs to the ultimate minority on the face of the = Earth! Will you marry me? :-) GL >> Sorry I already am. ;P here's my bands website http://207.51.206.34/N9mxq/band btw the Real Audio is jacked at the moment we hope it's up and running soon. Later, Juli
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:29:56 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4194 Message-ID: <9856db0a.35da2a95@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-18 13:16:54 EDT, you write:
<< Hello this is the real Derek. There is an imposter, I never sent either of these posts, someone has figured out a way to forge my Address somehow, I am asking you to stop now!!! That is totally FUCKED of you to do this...... Derek >>
Yeah get 'em Derek!
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:55:48 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Interview..james and mike :) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980818225352.1664B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Carlos Alfaro wrote:
> James: Cyber Moon is an amazing website..So we are lucky.. > > Ok.. itchy.. did he actually say this.. or were you having fun when > editing the interview?? :) :)
He (whoever was answering under the name James, you never know) actually said this.
Crossing my fingers to get flamed here by any member, Roger... :-)
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