YTSEJAM Digest 4210
Today's Topics:
1) portnoy ISN'T the drummer
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
2) Peruvian Skies are having a Cigar
by ytsejam@iname.com
3) re: Prog Central
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
4) SONY SOUND
by ytsejam@iname.com
5) Re: Who's Mike Bahr?
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
6) Estonian progressive band wants to hear your opinions
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
7) "Relayer" and DT new album
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) Re: Drummers posture
by "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
9) VOICES Mailing List
by "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
10) V A N H A L E N
by NckyLemons@aol.com
11) Grand Casino Amphitheater - Hinkley, MN show.
by AL <al@isd.net>
12) More reviews from Neil
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
13) KorgX3: Did he sleep through the question, or is he a coward?
by AL <al@isd.net>
14) Angelica/Guitar Suggestions
by Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com>
15) Re: Spock's Beard boot / Ytse-shirts
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Who's Mike Bahr and what's on the HY single?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4206
by Ibanez506@aol.com
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4206
by Ibanez506@aol.com
19) Sermon of the mounted
by Jason Earle <026831@bah.com>
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:29:07 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: portnoy ISN'T the drummer
Message-ID: <19980821072907.27826.qmail@hotmail.com>
Wonder how many people i freaked out with that subject.....Geez, i hope
i don't start a death of DT rumor with it.....
> I just get this image of that Bloom county comic strip where the 15 >
yr. old is talking about how he worships deathtongue. Chill out.
> They're not gods, they're people. They eat, they sleep, they take
> the occasional big hairy shit. Learn to accept this.
> -Loooeeee climbs down from the soapbox to be lynched by 17 yr. old
> deathtongue worshipers
Well, Loooeeee, you just mentioned deathtongue and bloom county on the
jam.....i guess that makes you a god to me......stand up and be
worshipped, boy......
(and of course, in that band, deathtongue, portnoy is not the drummer,
as all good berkeley breathed fearing heathens should know)
partha
"Thanks, Joe."
--the last words of one Enrico Salvatore Rizzo, in one of my
favorite movies of all time
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:31:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejam@iname.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Peruvian Skies are having a Cigar
Message-ID: <199808210731.DAA01049@web05.globecomm.net>
It's a dream; I'm a Dt fan, it all started with Pink Floyd and i smioke c=
igars.=20
All this leeds into the request I got, is there anybody out there a MP3 o=
r something with Peruvian Skies incl. Hav a Cigar out there, it's early b=
ut come on, don't you guys work fast, huh?=20
J=F8rgen Bakken
62 59 50 80=20
91 74 77 98=20
www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4
r+d>s TW 0/0/ FD - 0 DSoT 2 1 <21jul98> PFCode
"By your hand, I've awakened
Bear this honor in my name"
Under a Glass Moon- John Petrucci-Images & Words -1992
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:54:06 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Prog Central
Message-ID: <35DDA62E.1E1F@fh-niederrhein.de>
Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> wrote :
>Good grief, the ytsejam is turning into Prog Central. I don't recall ever
>seeing Jens post before, though I've been here a good long while. Welcome
>to the list, Jens!
>Let's see, that now means we have, posting or lurking, the following
>musicians on this list:
>-- Mike Portnoy
>-- Derek Sherinian
>-- Sean from Cynic
>-- Mike from Division
>-- Jens from Stratovarius
>-- Jason McMaster (ex-Watchtower)
>-- Brendt from Shadow Gallery
>-- Marcel from Lemur Voice
>-- Bernd from Superior
>What a list. I'm sure there's others I've missed. C'mon, make yourselves
>heard! :)
Don't forget :
-- Daniele from EMPTY TREMOR
-- Jonas from TREASURE LAND
-- Bryan from AZTEC JADE
-- Kevin from CHROMA KEY
I'm not sure but I think Neal Morse from SPOCK's BEARD also has post to the Jam.
NP : Platypus - When Pus Comes To Shove
Arash
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 04:58:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejam@iname.com
To: The Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SONY SOUND
Message-ID: <199808210858.EAA13109@web04.globecomm.net>
For afull sound experience on FII try the new DiscMan=99 from Sony, with =
the ESP2 system and Groove.=20
Groove is so much better then Bass and Mega Bass and all that bass shit m=
ent for listmusic.=20
I never heard the breathing(breeding?) and noise before Anna Lee.=20
But, no I'm not an Sony employe
J=F8rgen Bakken
62 59 50 80=20
91 74 77 98=20
www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4
r+d>s TW 0/0/ FD - 0 DSoT 2 1 <21jul98> PFCode
"By your hand, I've awakened
Bear this honor in my name"
Under a Glass Moon- John Petrucci-Images & Words -1992
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Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:00:38 +0200
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Who's Mike Bahr?
Message-ID: <tkuk942g155.fsf@zussun4.desy.de>
Mike> Who am I?
Mike> Currently, Mike Bahr is just another Jammer. Long-time
Mike> DT fan, got into the band in 1992 after hearing PMU on the
Mike> radio.
Mike> For a long time, I was providing a service of bootleg
Mike> CDs to the Ytsejam list, but that time has passed. :) Thanks
Mike> for asking.
Yeah I know some more about him. He is a guy that owes me 4 CDs (or
it is 3?) and won't answer e-mail I send to him. Hey Mike, I know my
computer is configured right maybe yours is to blame. Or do you just
ignore my mail?
Jason
-- Jason T. Breitweg Jason.Breitweg@desy.de http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg ICQ# 7495933------------------------------
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:14:04 +0300 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Estonian progressive band wants to hear your opinions Message-ID: <199808210914.maa07113@estcard.ee>
Hey
ECHOSILENCE, an Estonian somewhat progressive band (influenced by Cynic, Dream Theater and so forth) has finished recording their first professional demo recording and would like to hear some feedback and opinions. 4 full length MP3 clips are available at
The band's homepage can be found at
http://www.estnet.ee/karu/cgi-bin/echoindex.cgi
Waiting for somebody to fess up :-)
Raitz
P.S. I'm not in the band, just an insider.
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:27:09 +0200 From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "Relayer" and DT new album Message-ID: <35DD3D6D.16FA9D38@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:22:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> > Subject: NDTC (sorry) A Yes Question... > > Hey guys and gals, > > I'm listening to Relayer right now, and am wondering, was any of the album > recorded live? The liner notes give a credit for "tapes by (so and so)" > and there's a reference to mobil sound equipment being used. How much of > the album was recorded outside a traditional studio, and did they play it > for a crowd when they recorded? I have it and my ears doesn't hear live parts. I think it is studio album. On the other hand I have it on tape, don't have liner notes, so...
> Sorry for the lack of DTC, but I gotta know, and I don't have access to > the a.m.y group (who'd probably kill me for asking), nor can I find it in > any FAQ I've read. > > Thanks in advance, > --Matt
Er, I also wanted to ask something of this. ANY news? Or, what is actually known for the new studio album? Will Metropolis pt. 2 be on it? :-)
Dushko
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 04:28:50 PDT From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Drummers posture Message-ID: <19980821112850.7064.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey the other Drummer Mike, I was wondering how those thrones were. I want to get a new one and I was just going to go with one of the ones with the thigh cutouts. They are extremely comfortable and ergonomic (if that's possible for a seat), but I can imagine how the backrest even improves on that. So you like that throne so far?
Later All! The Hugest Music Fan,
Mike "The Drummer"
> >I totally agree, posture is extremely important. Try playing 2 or 3 45 >minute sets a night with bad posture and I'll bet you'll have a hard time >getting out of bed the next day. I have gone to a drum throne with a back >support on it and I've found it has greatly improved my posture at the set. >Now (mainly on double bass sections) I find I'm pushing myself up into the >back support. If you can afford one, I suggest you check it out. > >The other Mike the drummer > >Mike >Homewks@Sound.Net > > >
Nice talkin to ya! The Hugest Music Fan,
Mike "The Drummer"
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 04:38:51 PDT From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: VOICES Mailing List Message-ID: <19980821113852.21367.qmail@hotmail.com>
Does the VOICES Mailing list still exsist? I tried to subscribe to it and it didn't work. It seems like the mailing list is by the same owners. Anyone have any ideas/help?
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:41:39 EDT From: NckyLemons@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: V A N H A L E N Message-ID: <77d6a7bd.35dd5cf4@aol.com>
The only Van Halen that will go in the books will be the Roth era. They were the American Led Zeppelin. The Hagar/Cherone eras although very good, did not have the flair and dazzle of the 78-84 era. The tension between Roth and Edward provided the magic.
And don't be dissing Randy Rhoads. God only knows what his potential was.
" Some of the most beautiful orchids are grown in cowshit!" - Derek Sherinian
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:45:21 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Grand Casino Amphitheater - Hinkley, MN show. Message-ID: <35DD5DD1.EA854A05@isd.net>
Anyone interested in a Ytse-meeting before the show? I'm thinking the ARCADE area near the entrance to the amphitheater. Sometime between 3-6 PM. They have a great buffet! Cheap too!
Derek: I better get a damn sig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:44:30 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More reviews from Neil Message-ID: <01BDCD09.D347A6D0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
a couple of new reviews for your entertainment. WARNING: both of these albums could stop people from listening to just prog.
SOULFLY - Soulfly
Can anybody still remember the shock when it was announced that Max Cavalera would be leaving Sepultura (for me almost as sad as when Kyuss announced they would be splitting)? Remember thinking it was the end of a musical era? Well the good news is here - Max's new band Soulfly continues where Chaos A.D. and Roots left off, only harder and better. The first track 'Eye For An Eye' is like a fist in your face, from which you don't recover for the rest of the album. Killer riffs, Max's unique vocal style, gut wrenching bass lines and an amazing percussion performance all add up to a roller coaster album that takes you from one climax to another, all of this wrapped up with tribal rhythms, hip hop/crossover and some very interesting samples. But Max has managed to avoid the trap of simply becoming a copy of Sepultura - Soulfly is more and tries (successfully) things that Sepultura never did. If, according to a certain Mike Portnoy, balls and chunk is where it's at, then this album is 100% where it's at. Unfortunately I can't give more than 10/10
SACRIVERSUM - Soteria
Gothic metal from Poland? Why not. Following in the footsteps of their compatriots Cemetary Of Scream, this Polish sextette have recorded a very respectable album which will surely be one of the top gothic releases of 98. What of the music? Somewhere between Paradise Lost when they released 'Gothic' and the debut album of Theatre Of Tragedy. The guitar sound reminds me of the twin guitars of The Gathering and the keyboards give the sound depth. The band also utilizes the female clear voice/male cookie monster combination that so many bands of this genre employ, but Sacriversum do it well and not as a gimmick. Some of the songs are little harder and faster than many gothic releases, and this is something that makes 'Soteria' so different and refreshing while still retaining the sadness and melancholia typical of gothic bands. Hopefully a band with a future. 8/10
I also bought Platypus, but I won't trouble you with a full review. I'll just say I like the instrumental stuff better than the tracks with vocals. Of the three 'projects', my clear favourite is Explorers Club, but perhaps the boys could do a project with Petrucci/Myung/Portnoy/ Sherinian/LaBrie - that would be something new!
Question: does anybody else wonder if Kenneth Starr has ever had one single blow job in his sad and pathetic life?
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: SOULFLY - Soulfly "Take a squeegee to your third eye" - Bill Hicks
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:51:26 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: KorgX3: Did he sleep through the question, or is he a coward? Message-ID: <35DD5F3E.5539FA82@isd.net>
KorgX3: You never answered my question. I'll try again... Where does the white go when the snow melts?
DT in two days! -- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:58:52 -0400 From: Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angelica/Guitar Suggestions Message-ID: <757BDD939BC1D111B55F00805F9FB6DC952E77@ATLMISXCH1>
Hey, guys!
I forked out the cash for the "Angelica" album about 5 or 6 months ago and was greatly disappointed. Although the album is described as a mixture of rock and opera, the only really rockin' tracks are Vai's and Johnson's plus the first track (I don't remember who played on that one.) Even Vai's isn't all that spectacular. If you're looking for a contemporary opera album, I would check out anything by ARIA. It's not rock, but it's cool as hell.
Also, does anyone have any suggestions as to a good beginning guitar?? I don't want to spend a whole lot of money, mostly because my wife won't let me!! Plus, I'd like to know what else I need to get started in learning. Any suggestions by private email, please!
> Dushko wants to know: > >BTW, somebody heard those new Vai projects - "Angelica" and "Merry > >Axemas"? I'm really interested to hear some reviews! > >
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:51:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> Subject: Re: Spock's Beard boot / Ytse-shirts Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980821085106.9492A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Does anybody know if that place that posted about the Spock's Beard > boots (Autumn Leaf Records) > is legit/ reliable?
I sent them money on Friday - they emailed me yesterday to say that they got the payment and the CD is already in the mail to me. So far, so good.
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> Subject: Re: Who's Mike Bahr and what's on the HY single? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980821085350.9492C-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> I don't remember hearing about any other FII singles, and it depends on > which version you get of the HY single as to which tracks are on it (the > Euro version has 4, while the Jpnse version has 5 tracks). I have > neither, so if there's anyone out there willing to give an answer (is it > in the FAQ yet?)
The European HY has 4 tracks. The Japeneese HY has 6 tracks.
there. simple. :)
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:56:53 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4206 Message-ID: <865b0c68.35dd6e96@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-20 15:43:38 EDT, you write:
<< Mitch Mitchell, he must have done something to change rock drumming, one of the first double bass users I believe. >> I'm not sure if double bass came from Mitch or Ginger Baker. Either way they both changed drumming alot. You have to figure nobody had done this type of music before so they had to mix the influences they already had like jazz blues and dare I say country. Mix it all up add a little experimentation and there you have it a style is born! Juli
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:00:07 EDT From: Ibanez506@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4206 Message-ID: <d61526ee.35dd6f58@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-20 15:43:38 EDT, you write:
<< Don't know why this didn't go through the 1st time, but here it is again: Damon sez: <<<< >> O.K. Mike now i'm really confused! How about take 3
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:13:01 -0400 From: Jason Earle <026831@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sermon of the mounted Message-ID: <35DD725D.A6399BAA@bah.com>
> >old is talking about how he worships deathtongue. Chill out. They're > > >not gods, they're people. They eat, they sleep, they take the > occasional > >big hairy shit. Learn to accept this. > > Dude, I think you really need to find a psychologist if you take > everything > so literally. Interpreting everything someone says as true indicates > some > sort of obsessive/compulisve disorder, doesn't it? Now that we know > you > have this problem we can really fuck with you though. :D >
Obsessive compulsive? Really? Maybe that explains the $8,000 dollars in malibu Barbies I baught over the past two months. I just couldn't...find...the perfect...MALIBU...BARBIE...DAMN YOU YOU WHORE I'LL KILL YOU AND EAT YOUR EYEBALLS BARBIE YOU BIG FAT TEMPTUOUS SLUT
> You are sitting on an anthill. You can't move. Your hands are tied > behind > your back and your feet are firmly bound together. The ants are > aggitated.
But Korg, you forgot to take into account that my CARNIVEROUS NUTSACKS are hungry, and without warning, they erupt from my levis and begin the mass destruction of the horde of arthropods. It's fangs glistening in the afternoon sunlight, the mutant, possesed nutsack begins a mighty onslaught. Impervious to pain, these heroic nutsacks chew their way into the very base of the anthill, consuming all creatures that lie in their path, from the harmless aphid farm to the edible fungus cultures to the queen ho-bag ant herself. In a gluttenous orgy, all ants are consumed and the only sound to be heard is the slow, stead growl of the carniverous nutsacks as they search for their next prey...
(It was hard for me to get second dates when I was in college.)
> > > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! > -- > The trash heap has spoken... Nyaaaaaahhhh! >
Yeah, well *I* knows where Gobo goes, mother fucker. ;D
-da symbiotic Loooooeeeeeeeee
P.S. Isn't carniverous Nutsacks a killer name for a band? Or at least a song? I don't know what it would be like (the song), except that there HAS to be some gangsta rap in it, and the following verse is a MUST:
"Can't get no lovin' Can't find no whore My nutsack is a carnivore"
I expect to see that in some form on the next studio album, Derek.
And I think my original point was that the phrase "... is my God" just sounds stupid when you think about it.
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