YTSEJAM digest 4227

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Date: Tue Aug 25 1998 - 10:46:40 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: concert start times
     by "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4224
     by Ibanez506@aol.com
      3) re: mailing list maintenance
     by "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
      4) Re: Vai in LTE
     by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
      5) Re: King Crimson albums 'n stuff
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
      6) Re: lie single/another day single/JP-SV
     by Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com>
      7) The Prog Show Of The Year: East Coast.
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
      8) Please, Mr Lemons, help me!
     by d94-mry@nada.kth.se
      9) DSherinian interview
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     10) Extreme/Vai-LTE/Vernon/Janet Jackson
     by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     11) Re: Janet Jackson
     by Johnny Carwash <sampo@pconline.com>
     12) Carpe Tunnel Vision Experiment
     by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:09:45 -0400
    From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: concert start times
    Message-ID: <199808251203.IAA08517@bajor.ici.net>

    > DTC: Do you think that maybe the reason the concerts have all started
    > consistantly early is because the ticket times are for ELP rather than DT?
    > (maybe they think the old timers wouldn't like DT and are just deciding
    > for them... ^_^)

    Actually, what I heard was that DT only gets 30 minutes if they
    start at the time listed on the tickets, so they're starting early in
    order to fit in a good 45-50 minute set.

    __Pat Sullivan________________
    Email: psull@just-like.nu
    WWW: http://www.just-like.nu
    ICQ: 2049374

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:19:44 EDT
    From: Ibanez506@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4224
    Message-ID: <2feb232.35e2abe0@aol.com>>

    In a message dated 98-08-25 00:08:02 EDT, you write:

    << I'm almost possitive that Neil Peart uses an electronic metronome of
     some sort in concert for some songs. >>

     I do believe your right, I know in his insructional video he has a earphone
    set-up that looks like the one he uses live.

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:32:45 -0400
    From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: re: mailing list maintenance
    Message-ID: <199808251226.IAA09129@bajor.ici.net>

     
    > * periodically, the list unsubscribes everybody, so only people
    > really interested in the discussions keep on subscribing. This gets rid of
    > people who are subscribed by "inertia", that is, people who are only
    > subscribed because they're lazy to unsubscribe.
    >

    I question how good of an idea it is to periodically incovenience
    everyone on the list for the sake of a few lazy people. Maybe for a
    much larger volume list it would make sense, but in this case, I'm
    not so sure. I just don't think it's good PR to make 1000 people
    (roughly) resub to knock one or two off the distribution.

    The other potential downfall that I see is that you will probably lose
    some people that *are* interested, and that *do* occasionally
    participate, but that just one time decide that it's not worth it to
    keep resubbing (and with a list with this low a signal-noise ratio, it'll
    probably be fairly common).

    __Pat Sullivan________________
    Email: psull@just-like.nu
    WWW: http://www.just-like.nu
    ICQ: 2049374

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:56:54 +0200
    From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Vai in LTE
    Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980825125654.006988c8@unet.univie.ac.at>

    <<Didnt mike himself state that the 2nd Liquid tension experiment could only
    have the same lineup as the first because that was what LTE was?>>

    Which is good. I dont think Vai could do anything for LTE. John is just
    enough. Its the mixture I love about LTE. Keys, Bass, Guitar, Drums. Amen.
    Now if another Gunslinger joins the roundtable (like Vai), I think things
    would get out of hand. (Although it must be really crazy and funny then.) I
    dont think its a good idea (especially because we would not hear as many
    Petrucci solos then..... :) ).
    But who cares.

    <<Well, in that case, I&W would be my fave DT album, and it would be just
    plain hard for another DT album to knock it off this place.>>

    Man, ACOS on I&W. I guess the day when i heard that back then (if it had
    been so) would have been my last.....

    <<Well, I read an interview with JM in a Bass Player magazine, and he said
    that for Peruvian Skies, Kevin Shirley made him sit down and listen to
    "Hey You", from none other than Pink Floyd. Interesting. >>

    yea, interesting. but I could have told you that without reading the mag.
    thanks anyway! :)

    <<Hi jammers!!

    AGAIN, THE SAME QUESTION:

    Can anybody, please, tell me if the upcomming live CD will contain
    tracks from the dutch acoustic show? I've checked out UACM web page and
    according to Mr. Portnoy it will only cover the Paris concert. How about
    the acoustic songs?>>

    well, some just never learn reading.

    <<>My opinion:
    >"I hate Pop, I hate Soul, keep METAL shining everywhere I go!!!"
    I have a friend that thinks just like you do. His narrow mindedness
    severely limits him. This kind of thinking prevents him from enjoying
    a great deal of excellent music. His problem may be due to a lack
    of gray matter. He finds it hard to head bang to ACoS. "Them stupid
    slow parts suck, man" Enough said.

    Before you reply, remember where you are.>>

    Man, this was thought to be funny. I grew up on Genesis and Phil Collins,
    Jazz, The Doors, FYC, A-HA, shit like that, so please dont tell me what
    openmindedness is. Thanks. (and read Micheal Velders post.)

    i just read the Derek interview. Was he on dope or something?

    "I heard the old man tell his tale"

    DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:04:52 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
    To: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    Subject: Re: King Crimson albums 'n stuff
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980825084902.20131A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > > In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969)
    > >
    > > Discipline (1981)

    > Personally, I heard only these 2. Now, IMO these 2 albums are TOTALLY
    > different.
            
            No, you're right. They're *totally* different albums. In fact,
    the only similarities between them is that they're called King Crimson -
    and Robert Fripp is the guitarist.

    > The concept I had about KC was - cool, weird music, legend band...

            ..which they are.

    > But the 1-st album doesn't do anything to me: quite tame and too
    > "normal". :-) Only "21-st..." jumps out of the whole album mood.

            remember also that the 1st album was released in 1969. Schzoid
    Man was (and still is) one of those songs that will always kick ass. When
    Einstein did the middle section of it during one of their songs (Birch
    Hell, 1996), I was floored (just ask Wacky).

            Thankfully, KC has decided to play "Schzoid" a few times now and
    again - although it's *very* rare that they do.

    > Luckily, before that I already heard "Discipline" and I LOVED it the
    > first moment I heard it. That time I didn't even know what I'm listening
    > 'cause the guy I took the tape from made mistake with the tapes sides
    > content.

            hahahahahahah. Yah, Tony will do that to you. :)

    > And my point finally: WHAT music out of this is trademark of King
    > Crimson? What is that revolutionery sound they came up with, earning
    > places in encyclopedias? I don't think it's the 1-st album.

            It's not as simple as that.

            With many bands, you can ask "where is the trademark sounds?" and
    we'll point you to an album or era that'll do it for you (DT, Rush,
    Genesis, etc). With Crimson, the sound changes from album to album. The
    first album is a classic. Name me another album released in that DECADE
    (this is the 60's, mind you) with that kind of punch. Epitaph, the 3rd
    song on the album, is *so* influentual that the guitarist from Bad
    Religion formed a label around it (you know, Epitaph records?) "In The
    Court Of The Crimson King", the title track, is equally as exciting. You
    need to look at that album from the vantagepoint of 1969, not 1998.

            Oh, did I mention that Michael Giles's playing on that album
    influenced Neil Peart to become the drummer he is?

            Anyways, back on my rant.

            There are 4 central "eras" of King Crimson:

            1: The original (1969) lineup.

            2: The Wetton/Bruford/Fripp era.

                    These guys released 3 albums:
            
                    a. Larks Tongues' In Aspic - (possibly one of the greatest
    albums of all time) - which features Jamie Muir on percussion and David
    Cross on viola/violin/mellotron. This was released in either late '72 or
    early '73
                    
                    b. Starless And Bible Black. Released in 1973, this has
    Cross, but not Muir (who left right after the release of LTiA). Although
    not as powerful as LTiA, their live shows are, as I like to put them,
    hauntingly beautiful. To hear the full extent of their power, do yourself
    a favour and get "The Night Watch" - beautiful stuff.

                    c. Red. The final album before the (1st) breakup, this
    album DEFINES heaviness. There's nothing quite like it. You wanna know
    where Anekdoten got so heavy? Look no further. Starless is a
    masterpiece, and so is the title track.

            
            3. The 80's era.

                    This lineup (Fripp/Belew/Levin/Bruford) released 3 albums:
    Disipline (of which i could go on and on about), Beat (1982), and Three Of
    A Perfect Pair (1984). Discipline's the album to get of here, and if you
    like the style, pick up the others. ToaPP is the weirder one of the three
    - with songs like "Dig Me" and "Industry" - show Fripp at the top of his
    form.

            4. The double trio.

                    I've talked at length about this in some length in an
    earlier post, but check out Thrak (1995) if you wanna hear something new
    by these guys. Although they've seperated into projecKts (as fripp likes
    to call 'em, "research and development for the the Crim" or something like
    that), ProjecKt 2's Space Groove (with Fripp, Gunn, and Belew - on drums!)
    isd an amazing double disc of improv.

            Note: King Crimson is an AQUIRED TASTE. Do not expect to be
    blown away. This is not the Liquid Tension Experiment. These guys (Fripp
    espically) are much more subtle than that - but if you listen with an open
    ear, they'll tear you to shreads - they're *that* good.

    > > As far as I know, Tony's been using it since the late 70's -
    > > rememeber he's the one who brought the Stick to it's fame (check out the
    > > opening section of _Elephant Talk_ - yes, kids, that's all stick).
    >
    > Heck! I was wondering how for God's sake was that part played. That
    > intro RULES! The drums also :-)
    > Just that yelling annoing vocal ruins the whole picture.

            hahahahah. the vocal rocks, man! that's the poin of the whole
    song. Check out Fripp's (1st) and Belew's (2nd) guitar solo on there.
    Perfection doesn't get any easier than this, folks.

            it's only talk. :)

                    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                        syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
                         erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
                    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: lie single/another day single/JP-SV
    Message-ID: <19980825130204.27276.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>

    > 1. Lie Single: Does ANYONE know where I can get this.
    >

    I have a copy of the promo CD single Lie (5.02) with the drum intro
    that is not on the album.

    I also have a copy of the Another day CD single, (with fortune in lies
    live and another day live (from the live at the Marquee gig))

    Any (reasonable) offers for either?

    Email me privately if you are interested
    ------------------------
    On another note, doesnt JP sound just a little like Steve vai on the
    under a glass moon solo?
    There are some steve vai-isms in there...

    Cheers

    Simon
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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:10:37 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
    To: A Ytse Besides Itself <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: The Prog Show Of The Year: East Coast.
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980825090744.20131D-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    Just wanted to pass along some info to you:

            Right here in Philadelphia, 3 prog bands are going to be playing
    the Theater Of The Living Arts (or the 'T.L.A.' as we call it). The bands
    are Finneus Gauge, Mastermind and The Flower Kings. Here's the kicked.
    The show is sponcered by EFC!!! That's right! Prog has, for now at
    least, gone somewhat mainstream. :)

            Anyways, the price for the tickets are $15 - and the show is on
    Thursday, September 3rd (that's the day before labor day w/end). D-Man
    and I will be in attendance, and I hope to see/meet many of you there.
    Support the local prog scene, guys - it's all we've got!

     - mike.

                    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                        syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
                         erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
                    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:12:33 +0200 (MET DST)
    From: d94-mry@nada.kth.se
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Please, Mr Lemons, help me!
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.980825151047.18610A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>

    Attention, The Real NICKY LEMONS! Urgent!
    -----------------------------------------

    O, thou great tickler of the ivories! If you find a message in your
    mailbox from Susanne Jonsson at Warner Music in Sweden, please reply
    to it ASAP. It concerns whether I should bother to go to LA at all
    this sunda (I'm traveling from Sweden) ;-) You can also email me
    privately at rydstrom@rocketmail.com

    Rox nadz!

    Mats Rydstro=F6m

     (as I'm leaving for the US tomorrow morning and will not be able to
    read emails that regularly, I'll be in NYC 26-29 and in LA 30-31. In
    case everything fails, is there a way to *BUY* a ticket for the LA
    show on the 30th? Anyone got a spare?)

    ..............................................................
     Mats Rydstr=F6m - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - rydstrom@rocketmail.com
      the LORD ROSSE Home Page... http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry
    .............................................................

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:14:39 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DSherinian interview
    Message-ID: <35E2B8BF.F9A70556@mol.com.mk>

    > From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
    > Subject: FW : Edge of Time interview with Derek Sherinian: draw
    > your own conclusions
    >[snip]
    > Regarding the current side projects of DT:
    > Q: For instance, there's Liquid Tension Experiment with Portnoy and Petrucci.
    > A: Yes, Actually hmm...the main project that we only really want to
    > talk about is a side project with John Myung, Rod
    > Morgenstein, on drums, and Ty Tabor from King's X. You got it?
    > Q: You mean this is the most serious project?
    > A: Oh yeah, it's a serious project. We're all very excited about this
    > and will hopefully make money and even go on tour.

    Oh, that was nasty, wasn't it? Do I get the right feelin' from this?
    I don't wanna draw conclusion, I'm afraid from the results. :-)

    > Q: It's not the first time I hear opinions like yours in the progressive field.
    > A: I really will be honest with you, I really don't like a lot of noise.

    Nobody can judge him about that! And I think where he's heading with
    this, and support him! (on this)

    > Regarding the non-acceptance of the mainstream US and the writing of the last disc:
    > Q: I personally think there's still a barrier present there for
    > supporting anything with the "heavy music" label on. The fact that
    > such songs as "Take Away My Pain' are very commercial, did it help someway?
    > A: Nope, we did write them hoping that it would, but it didn't.
    > Q: So, were you possibly thinking about that when you writing the new album?
    > A: (pause) Hmm. I mean do you think that...? Look, every band...I
    >creative, to stuck know fans like the idea of bands staying or whatever
    > but we want to be HUGE! You know we want to play the big
    > stadiums, we want to...

    There's nothing wrong in desire of being HUGE! What matters is what the
    przie for that.
    I remember Mike Portnoy interview where he says that what he likes most
    in DT is that they all don't care about the outside mainstream music,
    they just do what they like in their music, totally without barriers.
    I guess that still counts right? I certainly hope so.

    Dushko
      _______________________________________
    <| |>
    <| "Everything's is immaterial |>
    <| You know that reality is immaterial? |>
    <| This is not reality!" |>
    <| |>
    <| - "Voices", |>
    <| Dream Theater |>
    <|_______________________________________|>

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:13:34 +0200
    From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Extreme/Vai-LTE/Vernon/Janet Jackson
    Message-ID: <35E2B87E.1A713B0E@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 21:24:49 PDT
    > From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: Comparing Musicians/Extreme "Cupid's Dead" mp3
    >
    > Does anyone on the list have an mp3 of Extreme's "Cupid's Dead". Lately
    > on the jam, I've been reading a lot about this and other Extreme songs
    > that in some way compare to Prog and I'd like to hear it.

    Why bothering that much. Just go and buy "Pornograffiti" or "III Sides
    of every story", or both! :-)
    Awesome albums. That Nuno guy is crazy.
     
    > From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: Steve VAI and Liquid Tension Experiment
    >
    > I definitely agree. That would be cool for them to jam with other
    > greats like Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan. But regardless of who they jam
    > with, they should all definitely continue to jam with other artists to
    > keep their perspectives fresh,

    Don't you just LOVE projects! :-) Is there anything betrer than seeing
    your fave musicians gathering and doing an album toigether. OR tributes.
    I love tributes! How can someone not like for example, "Voodoo Chile"
    cover of let' say - Paul Gilbert! ;-)

    > including James who himself also just completed
    > a side project, which was mentioned in the RockOnline the
    > other night, the 14th I believe. I didn't catch the name of it,
    > but I'd like to hear that!

    What's that project? :-( Some more infos please, or just a URL.

    > From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: Vernon et al. in NYC
    >
    > >From: "Paul T. Fini" <fini@engineering.ucsb.edu>
    > >Hey all Living Colour fanatics on the list (this means you, Koba!),
    > >I saw something on the web that Vernon Reid had gotten together with
    > >former LC bandmates on 8/20 at the Bottom Line in NYC... did anyone
    > >make it to this show, and more relevantly, did you or anyone you
    > >know get a recording of it? I'd pay _top dollar_ to get a copy
    > >of this show.
    >
    > I'd love to hear that myself. They were an awesome band. Totally
    > different for the time they came out.

    Agreed. That Vernon experiments a lot. He was here in Macedonia for the
    Jazz festival '97 (held every year) and did and awesome show. Strange
    enough, in his band was a rapper also, and few songs were rap oriented.
    But imagine cool rap groovy rhythm with Vernon's riffs. :-) He was just
    surfing through all music styles he felt comfortable with.

    > From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: Janet Jackson
    >
    > >From: AL <al@isd.net>
    > >Subject: Re: Janet Jackson
    > >>My opinion:
    > >>"I hate Pop, I hate Soul, keep METAL shining everywhere I go!!!"
    > >I have a friend that thinks just like you do. His narrow mindedness
    > >severely limits him. This kind of thinking prevents him from enjoying
    > >a great deal of excellent music. His problem may be due to a lack
    > >of gray matter. He finds it hard to head bang to ACoS. "Them stupid
    > >slow parts suck, man" Enough said.
    >
    > What is this, an episode of Beavis and Butthead!? I missed the
    > originating post, but how the hell did we get on the subject of Janet
    > Jackson, or any Jackson on the Ytsejam in the first place. Ummm ...
    > this mailing list is for Progressive Rock and Metal bands, don't you
    > think that Janet Jackson is stretching the topic a little? Just my
    > thoughts on the matter.

    Er, I was the one posting that! :-) For your info, I just said that on a
    JJ song "Black Cat" Nuno Bettencourt is playing awesome guitar!

    Speaking of what is and what is not for the list, I think it's quite a
    complex issue. Going to extremes, can we say this should be ONLY DT
    topics oriented list? I don't think so! And I see that others (all)
    realize that.
    Chet Atkins guitar? It also doesn't sound like a prog stuff and I read
    it few days already.

    Dushko

    -- 
      _______________________________________
    <|					 |>
    <| "Everything's is immaterial		 |>
    <|  You know that reality is immaterial? |>
    <|  This is not reality!"		 |>
    <|					 |>
    <|		- "Voices",		 |>
    <|	           Dream Theater	 |>
    <|_______________________________________|>
    

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:31:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Johnny Carwash <sampo@pconline.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Janet Jackson Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980825082404.15449A-100000@newton.pconline.com>

    On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Michael Velders wrote:

    > What is this, an episode of Beavis and Butthead!? I missed the > originating post, but how the hell did we get on the subject of Janet > Jackson, or any Jackson on the Ytsejam in the first place. Ummm ... > this mailing list is for Progressive Rock and Metal bands, don't you > think that Janet Jackson is stretching the topic a little? Just my > thoughts on the matter.

    No, this is not an episode of Beavis and Butthead. Nor is this a mailing list for Progressive Rock and Metal bands. This is a DREAM THEATER mailing list, and is for discussion of them and related items. However, being unmoderated, this list tends to turn into all sorts of things. That said, Janet Jackson is as related as discussion of some progressive and metal bands. Not that I'm advocating a lengthy thread on the matter, though. Personally, my thoughts on the matter are that you should keep your own elitest thoughts on the matter before TAY-check (someone taught me how to pronounce that monstrosity of a last name this weekend) or someone less nice than I rips you a new back orifice on the matter of free choice of listening preferences.

    Also, lighten up on your number of posts. I counted 12 out of the 50 or so 'jam posts being yours. That's at least 10 too many. Unless your name is Bafu.

    On a mailing-list related note, the show in MN on Sunday rocked balls (of course). I just wanted to make a public statement that Derek can hold his own with any ivory-guy out there. That solo on 6:00 kicked my ass...

    until next time...

    id ytse-coppin'

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    Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:32:45 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Yts <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Carpe Tunnel Vision Experiment Message-ID: <35E2CB0D.3F78@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>

    Dushko: > Jon:

    > > How about this for a G3 lineup:

    > > John Petrucci > > Steve Morse > > Steve Howe

    > HaHa! That would be something! I mean, does these guys have anything in > common (playing style)? :-)

    Maybe ;)

    Morse and Howe have each jammed with Petrucci (and his 4 music friends :) before, and Howe has played with Morse. DT sights Kansas as an influence and has covered Kansas tunes. Morse has played in Kansas. They all play or have played in progressive bands. They've all know what it takes to compose a song, not just play it. They all can make an acoustic guitar ROCK!

    Ummm, none of them have been a party to the making of any chemical weapons, according to the latest intelligence reports. The word is still out on whether any noxious microparticles are flaking off JP's pick when his shredding gets up into the 250+BPM range :)

    Other than that it, I guess it depends upon who you ask. Ask 30 jammers, get 31 different answers...

    My guess would be: once you reach a level that those three have, you've already mastered many different styles and the exploration is where it's at. It's more a matter of whether they would have fun jamming with each other or not (ya think?) You're right though, it would be glorious!

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    Arash: > Note: The people on the board are very very angry about Derek.

    OHMIGOD, that's a shame :) Wouldn't it be so nice if everyone just fit into nice, neat little molds and behaved just like we wanted them to. Maybe if the "people" on the board could get just a little more angry, they can hunt Derek down and kick his ass till he answers the questions the right way, damnit! :)

    I noticed several references where Derek laughs during the interview. Is that blatant enough for you? If what he says is more important than what he plays, then maybe they should nominate him for political office. His track record can't be any worse than Clinton's, right? :) The guy quite obviously LOVES playing in Dream Theater.

    If one can't read between the lines into what Derek is saying, here's a little suggestion:

    1) Log off 2) Shut down 3) Power down

    :)

    The musical world doesn't revolve around a message board (THANKFULLY!!!)

    Perhaps Derek is just plain sick and tired of people comparing him, trying to point out so-called deficiencies, and for the most part centering the discussion around anything except DEREK AND DREAM THEATER. No wonder he didn't "respond." Give the man a fucking break, already! So he doesn't like Fates Warning, Angra, or Symphony-X. Who the fuck cares? Asking him about Kevin Moore's contribution on the FW disc took balls :)

    > I don't think Gergorio enjoyed the interview that much.

    It's not about Gregorio's satisfaction or lack thereof. I bet Derek couldn't wait to get that interview over with :)

    Looked like Gregorio was interested in having his spin on 'all things progressive' be heard more than he was in hearing where Derek was trying to come from. This is about Dream Theater, not about some guy's poorly groomed interviewing techniques.

    I've met Derek in person and know others who have as well, and got nothing but a good vibe coming from him. This holds true for everyone else I've met in the band. They'll keep continuing to make music that many people enjoy, whether Derek's attitude bothers you or not :)

    Rodman still pulls down some major 'bounds, don't he?

    Sorry, the coffee just rocks today :)

    NP: The Dregs - Industry Standard -- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*

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