YTSEJAM Digest 4232
Today's Topics:
1) RE: YTSEJAM digest 4224
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
2) NDTC- Pitzer
by ed_wilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk)
3) Strange DT item
by Eric Joseph Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
4) Power Of Omens/Aztec Jade/Symphony X/Angra cd reviews
by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
5) Re: Cage still spinning, rat's dead. :)
by Jason Earle <looeee@hotmail.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4228
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
7) Female Backups for DT
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
8) Mariah and James
by "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be>
9) Why this works
by Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org>
10) Kevin Moore chat today
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
11) Network, Jon Parmet, etc
by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>
12) Re: Mariah and James
by Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
13) NEW MP3 ON JP - PAGE !!!!!!
by "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be>
14) Re: Stickers, and pics from Hinkly MN show
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
15) Attention Deficit! PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT!!!!!
by YtseSryche@aol.com
16) Prog T shirts
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
17) "Oh,the miss woo,too sorbet flan,wood kelp!"
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
18) Re: "Oh,the miss woo,too sorbet flan,wood kelp!"
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
19) What exactly Japanese girl who wears METALLICA t-shirt said on
by "Tetsu Hamanaka" <thamanaka@hotmail.com>
20) Christian Progressive Metal
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:56:00 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 4224
Message-ID: <35E44C30.DA64990B@pacbell.net>
>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:07:02 -0400
>From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
>
>It was good meeting everyone at Powermad - especially the irrepressible Dr.
>Mosh, Rick "Dolby Labs" Audet, and the infamous Jessie.
Infamous!? *sniffle*sniffle* :'o{
Sheesh, ya start one catfight on the jam, and suddenly you're infamous.
;op
Lisa Marie "Jessie"
ytsegirl@pacbell.net
http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:01:42 -0400
From: ed_wilk@juno.com (Ed J Wilk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC- Pitzer
Message-ID: <19980826.140142.-248085.0.ed_wilk@juno.com>
Hey,
Any jammers go to Pitzer college?
Ed-San
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:11:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric Joseph Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Strange DT item
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980826140957.7871B-100000@curly.cc.emory.edu>
Searching through concerposter.com yesterday, I came across a DT poster of
some interest. The poster is insert from the Awake Album (the band with
Kevin in the back middle) but with the FII font across it. At the bottom
of the poster it says, "Falling into Infinity." Needless to say it looks
strange as hell. So if anyone is into DT paradoxes, feel free to check it
out.
-Eric
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:33:45 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Power Of Omens/Aztec Jade/Symphony X/Angra cd reviews
Message-ID: <35E45509.1EEE1ED2@trw.com>
I decided to review the cds that I bought at Powermad that I have had a
decent amount of time to listen to.
Power of Omens-Eye of the Beholder
This cd is awesome. Take old Queensryche progress in a heavier and more
technical direction, add a little Latin/Mexican musical influence and
you get the new disc from the Texas band Power of Omens. This is
definitely the best cd of the 9 (yes, only 9) cds that I picked up at
Powermad. It may become my pick as the best cd of the year. If you got
their demo awhile back and thought that was good, this cd is 100 times
better. My 12 disc car changer has been stuck on this cd since Friday.
Aztec Jade-Frame of Mind
This cd is very good. The vocalist sounds even better than he does live.
His voice isn't typical prog-metalish (ie, Tate, Labrie, Midnight). The
supporting cast is very good. Get this cd if you want to listen to
something new that isn't a rehash of another band.
Symphony X-Twilight in Olympus
This cd is typical S-X. If you liked DWOT this follows right in its
footsteps.
Angra-Freedom Call
This is an EP with a couple remixed songs including a remix of their
cover of Judas Priests Painkiller (which is done very well compared to
the original). Also on this are 3 live acoustic tracks. Definitely worth
the $8 I paid for it.
More reviews coming later...
NP:Angra-Freedom Call
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:38:48 -0400 From: Jason Earle <looeee@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Cage still spinning, rat's dead. :) Message-ID: <35E45638.7C67010A@hotmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:16:43 +0000 > From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> > To: Yts <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Cage still spinning, rat's dead. :) > Message-ID: <35E426DB.60AC@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> >
This has nothing to do with the original post, but do any jammers out there raise rats as pets, or am I the only one? I haven't noticed them getting into Dream Theater or any other music i have, but they sure make entertaining pets. As for those spinning wheels, they don't play with them, just sleep/ poop in them.
-Loooeeeee, Lord of the Ytse-vermin
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4228 Message-ID: <19980826184343.28804.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
> > >> But if you just wanna hear him shred, then get some King Crimson:) > >> > > Uh, I think "shred" is the wrong word. Fripp doesn't play like a Vai
It was just a humorous comment dude. I know he's not a shredder in the Malsteem sense of the word. But when he cuts loose, it's still very impressive (especially live)
Ern
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:16:02 -0400 From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Female Backups for DT Message-ID: <36E02D8151FFD1118C1C00600808ACE548BDF1@HAMSXHA2>
This is an interesting topic, and not entirely unrealistic, since the boys are accepting of the idea to use backup vocals outside the band (read: Doug Pinnick). Some suggestions:
The Obvious:
Aimee Mann (Yeah, she sang with Rush - so what? She has a hell of a voice) Tori Amos (only because everyone'd go nuts over this, and, for some reason, there seem to be a lot of crossover fans).
The Not-So-Obvious
Lorenna McKennitt (god... what a voice) The singer from 'The Gathering' whose name escapes me The Spice Girls (ok, kidding on this one) Whitney Houston (For some reason, I think she'd make a great singer alongside JLB - call me crazy).
Feel free to discuss. :)
Nicholas Giannotti Joint STARS Contracting giannottin@hanscom.af.mil "A day without sunshine is like....night."
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:43:06 +0200 From: "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mariah and James Message-ID: <001101bdd129$c008abe0$0b09eec3@david>
How would this sound : Mariah Carey and James Labrie doing Peruvian Skies ..wow! That would rock ! :) oooooo ... I'm gonna get killed for saying this ....
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:45:24 +0100 From: Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Why this works Message-ID: <l03020900b209bb89c5c9@[205.219.25.54]>
For all the bickering, all the keyboardist debates, the NDTC comments that raise flames from others (esp. if the lovely Miss Jackson is mentioned, if you're nasty), and the tirades, YTSEJAM still rocks.
I'll tell you why:
Someone posted their review of Powermad 98.
Said poster recommended a band called Ion Vein, and even went as far as to offer a website (http://www.ionvein.com) where I could check them out.
It sounded like we shared the same interest, so I went there.
I really like what I hear, so much that I'm willing to buy an album. Without the constant exposure to new music from the Ytsejam, I would be as narrow-minded as some listeners claim to be. Thanks to Ytsejam, I've discovered Symphony X, Enchant, Arkhe, Hydrotoxin, and several other artists that have enhanced my appreciation of prog.
So we have to be doing SOMETHING right here, gals and guys.
------------- "I am shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in here!" --Renault, 'Casablanca'
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:09:29 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Kevin Moore chat today Message-ID: <01BDD13A.C0C9C940@6.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
Can someone please log today's Talk City chat with Kevin Moore for me ? I'd love to be there myself, but it's at 3 am for me...
"Kevin Moore, keyboardist and former member of Dream Theater will be joining us for a chat on Wednesday, August 26, at 9pm eastern/6pm pacific. Kevin will be talking about his new solo album, Dead Air for Radios, which features Mark Zonder and Joey Vera from Fates Warning, and which is the very first release for Kevin's new label, Fight Evil Records."
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:21:18 +0300 From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Network, Jon Parmet, etc Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980826202118.0068cd9c@jone68-2.pop.sci.fi>
Hey ! Feels weird writing here again. I just had to tell you that I had a really great time at the Wacken festival and in Dortmund, where I had a chance to see Savatage !!! Along with tonz of other great bands. It was awesome !!!! I just wish I could've met the Sav.guys, being a fan of theirs for about ten years or more.. And it was really great to notice how popular our guys are in Germany, I mean the finnish bands that were there. It's not often you see domestic bands abroad, so I just had to see how they were doing there.
Anyway, JON ! Send me a message ! I don't know where you're lurking now, so...
Can anyone send me info about the band Network ? I'm just curious who played in it since my memory's taking a trip once again..so I would appreciate any info you got on them !
"C" ya ! Satu
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mariah and James Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980826142733.538993253A-100000@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, David Van Glabeke wrote:
> > How would this sound : Mariah Carey and James Labrie doing Peruvian Skies > ..wow! > That would rock ! :) > oooooo ... I'm gonna get killed for saying this .... >
How about Mariah octaving James on the "I think it's time for a chaaaaange!" line of TTT? That should bust some windows! ^_^
--Matt (How about we just have music videos with Mariah lip-synching to DT? I'd watch that!)
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:17:39 +0200 From: "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NEW MP3 ON JP - PAGE !!!!!! Message-ID: <000d01bdd13f$57693760$3609eec3@david>
Boyz 'n girlzz .. check out this file played by John live during one of his clinics, it's called GEMINI (something to do with his twins?)...and it kicks serious butt !! You never heard this one before unless you went to one of his clinics. It's 5 megs though :( sorry www.users.skynet.be/JohnPetrucci/index.html
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:23:31 EDT From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Stickers, and pics from Hinkly MN show Message-ID: <91641d47.35e48ae4@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-08-26 11:57:30 EDT, you write:
> I can make Ytsejam stickers...big ones, small ones, red ones, blue ones, > yadda > yadda... > > [eriC] (spooky voice inside your head saying)...make them and they will buy them... :} Just a hint. Anyway, my friend Lorene went to the show in Hinkly and got like, right at James's feet and took a billion pics (amazing ones IMO) and she said i could offer them to all you psychos out there. I'll be putting them up on my homepage asap so feel free to download at will unless AOL is being a bastard today :}
~Lisa DragynLMC3@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. ~Bertrand Russell
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:26:34 EDT From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Attention Deficit! PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT!!!!! Message-ID: <2420deb7.35e499ab@aol.com>
Hey, I've posted a couple times about the magna carta album Attention Deficit, and no one responds! is it that no one has it, or they jsut don't wanna talk about it? I really wanna know if everyone else liked it as much as I did!!!! thanks!
TC "look at me upside down, don't I look like one of those talking chicken nuggets?!!"
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:27:47 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog T shirts Message-ID: <199882619142441@ix.netcom.com>
Anyone know of any sites on the net that sell shirts of prog bands? I'm especially interested in DT, Fates Warning, and Angra. Please privately e-mail me any sites that you know have shirts of these bands. BTW, anyone know where I can find that old Awake album cover DT shirt? All Ive been able to find outside of their shows are those stupid 3 photos shirts. Thanks
Matt
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:53:41 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "Oh,the miss woo,too sorbet flan,wood kelp!" Message-ID: <35E4A005.CB8AE2B0@bigfoot.com>
>Speaking of PMU what the hell does James say near the end?? It has bothered >me since I first heard it. > >"Oh, that this, too, too sullied flesh would melt."
He's actually singing, "reeeeeaaaad, the daaaaaaaaamnnnn faaaaaaaaq...." hahahaha! We'll let it go this time. It's been a while.
I read the faq, and I listened as hard as I could and didn't hear it for a long time. You might want to try to find a live version, it can be a little clearer. Basically, every syllabal gets 4 beats, if that helps. Except that last syllabal. It just gets one beat and the song's over.
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Ohhhhhhhhhh Thaaaaaaaaat Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis Tooooooooo Tooooooooo Sullllllllllllllllllllll liiiiiiiieeeeeeed fleeeeeeeeesh woooooould melt.............
Now that I know that, I can pretend that that's what is being said, as opposed to what james really sings, which is "Oghhhhhhhhhhh, vuuuuuughh bifgfgfgffgf vooooooo, voooooooo puuuuuughhhhhuuuuughhhh fluugghhhhhh, voooooooooo mug!"
-- ................................................................. Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com Razi on IRC & ICQ Check out Another Page at http://www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot diggity!
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: "Oh,the miss woo,too sorbet flan,wood kelp!" Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980826200235.18340A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Actually, the last word of PMU gets two and a half beats or something. Hold on, just recounted, James gives it one beat, then there is another beat or so before that abrupt ending. But I think in the original version, James sings two beats on that note.
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:07:46 PDT From: "Tetsu Hamanaka" <thamanaka@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: thamanaka@hotmail.com Subject: What exactly Japanese girl who wears METALLICA t-shirt said on Message-ID: <19980827000747.17377.qmail@hotmail.com>
>She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much, >but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck." > (Kevin Moore)
I have not watched DT live in Tokyo video for a while. But I remember that that Japanese girl (of course, she is a big fan of Dream Theater) said some praise word of DT in English, or Japanese? I remember that she said something really nice about DT. And then, Kevin Morre said above statement after she said. Anyway, Kevin's statement sounds funny to me.
Tetsu Hamanaka Japanese Progressive music Pilgrim =)
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:35:47 -0400 From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Christian Progressive Metal Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980826203547.00691174@mail.ee.net>
Someone asked this question on the Fates board some time back and I actually took the time to review my collection and come up with a semi decent list. Hope it helps. All opinions are mine (tm).
The ultimate Christian progressive metal band is Saviour Machine. They carefully straddle a thin line between progressive art rock and progressive metal. Their early work Saviour Machine I is very much metal. Saviour Machine II adds more complexity and progressiveness to the music but remains very much metal, if even slightly lighter. Legend Part I and Legend Part II are the first two parts (75+ minutes each) of a progressive metal concept trilogy. They are very dark and atmospheric; very intense. Similar in mood to Fate's APSOG.
Atomic Opera - similar to King's X and Galactic Cowboys. Vocal harmonies out the wazoo. http://members.aol.com/feverdreme/aohomepage.html
Believer - Complex and trashy near-death metal (I don't have this, I've only heard it)
Deliverance - Semi-progressive thrash metal (I don't have this, I've only heard it)
Digital Ruin - QR and DT influence very strong. Labrie like vocals. Contains a strong Fates Warning mood of darkness. Heavy use of keyboards and samples. http://www.knightsoftheround.com/digitalruin.htm
Galactic Cowboys - Mainstream prog metal band with subtle Christian influences http://www.dvdol.com/~kirsten/siyf.html
Kidd Robin - Another QR sounding band
King's X - Mainstream prog rock/light metal band http://www.compassnet.com/grump/
Narnia - Neo-classical progressive speed metal with Stryper lyrics http://hem1.passagen.se/narnia2/
Sacred Warrior - Cheesy QR Warning era pseudo-progressive metal
Siam - Light and melodic prog-metal with Geoff Tate clone
Tourniquet - Complex and speedy power metal
Treasure Land - Progressive Neo-classical shred metal http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48707/
Veni Domine - Doomy progressive metal - combine Queensryche and Black Sabbath
Wyzards - Progressive metal with strong 1970's (Rush/Yes) progressive hard rock influences
Joe jkruger@ee.net
Check out http://www.mindcage.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html for great prog metal discussion!!!
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