YTSEJAM Digest 4234
Today's Topics:
1) chicks 'n' wyzards
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
2) Japanese girl on LIT
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
3) Re: shadow gallery
by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
4) RE: Enya and DT
by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
5) Early Strong PROGress 'till Noon
by Strong PROGress <wsumlive@macc.wisc.edu>
6) Re: More Excerpts from Highway Star
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
7) Re: Neil's Metronome/Practice Regiments
by "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
8) Mike Portnoy's Virginia drum clinic
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
9) Re: NEW MP3 ON JP - PAGE !!!!!!
by "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk>
10) EVH/Vai
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
11) Re: click tracks... your right
by "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4232
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
13) DT Mix
by "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com>
14) DT-related sighting.
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
15) The "Infamous" Lisa Marie...
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
16) Reading Zero
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
17) Progressive Genius Needs new owner!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
18) Re: DT-related sighting.
by Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
19) Re: King's X is Christian prog?
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:23:53 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: chicks 'n' wyzards
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C341E27BD3@ms.kallback.com>
> Three words: Pat Fucking Benetar. This woman has an awesome voice
> and
> would be what I would call the female equivalent of James.
I love her and would give her a chance, but I saw her open last summer
for Styx and her voice was shot. Of course it was the last night of the
tour, so it could be better by now.
"I'm sailing away..." Take it, Cartman!!!
> If DT ever got a female singer to sing with them it would have to be
> Enya.
"Old age is like sitting in a dark closet listening to Enya really
loud"-South Park
Just kidding, I love Enya.
> > Wyzards - Progressive metal with strong 1970's (Rush/Yes)
> > progressive hard rock influences
> Good grief, I didn't know anyone else on this list knew about Wyzards.
>
> They kick serious ass.
I love Wyzards! It's like if KISS was progmetal or something. Cool.
Trevor-In a loving mood. Don't piss me off.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:30:03 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Japanese girl on LIT
Message-ID: <35E5271B.6D6B6D0F@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Tetsu Hamanaka" <thamanaka@hotmail.com>
>
> >She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much,
> >but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck."
> > (Kevin Moore)
>
> I have not watched DT live in Tokyo video for a while. But I remember
> that that Japanese girl (of course, she is a big fan of Dream Theater)
> said some praise word of DT in English, or Japanese? I remember that she
> said something really nice about DT. And then, Kevin Morre said above
> statement after she said. Anyway, Kevin's statement sounds funny to me.
>
> Tetsu Hamanaka
> Japanese Progressive music Pilgrim =)
Now, I guess you're the one to tell us all that, isn't it? ;-)
Dushko
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:52:41 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: shadow gallery Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980827075241.00b1e770@mail.legato.com>
Andy asked:
>hiya
Someone mentioned the new Shadow Gallery album - does anyone have a release date? And will it be released here in the UK? And what's happened to the SG website??
hey Andy,
The Official Release date for Shadow Gallery's Tyranny is Sept 22, 1998. I have heard that in New Zealand the release date was shown as Sept 22nd also. As for the site it's still located at http://www.shadowgallery.com
Thanks,
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org
Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows
"Fly where your dreams go....." Crystalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:29:48 -0700 From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Enya and DT Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A62444B6F0B@mail.rtp.gtegsc.com>
--- If DT ever got a female singer to sing with them it would have to be Enya. Anyone not familiar with her stuff really should give it a spin.
Thorin ---
Actually, I'd have to say Loreena McKennitt would be a much better choice. She has a better vocal range than Enya and I think her vocals would be an excellent compliment to James' voice. Best male vocalist I've ever heard has to be James and best female would definately be Loreena.
Jim
"What reward is a banquet of red wine and bread, when you hunger for life but on death you are fed?" - M. Walkyer - The Best of Enemies (Wulf's Tale)
Jim Suplizio
jim.suplizio@gsc.gte.com 919-549-7927
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:34:54 -0500 From: Strong PROGress <wsumlive@macc.wisc.edu> To: rtgood@vms2.macc.wisc.edu Subject: Early Strong PROGress 'till Noon Message-ID: <28082711342650@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>
What's up music people? It's Ryan at the helm of Strong PROGress all alone today; Paul is working.
This pre-noon ESP is featuring the SOOPER NEW stylings of:
Galatcic Cowboys Opeth Pushmonkey
and
More
THEN
Noon until 3pm Strong PROGress hits the net.
Tune in to
Thanks!
Ryan Good
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:36:25 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: More Excerpts from Highway Star Message-ID: <1998827123334541@ix.netcom.com>
<<I was left with the feeling that I had just witnessed the world's best bar band the great Spirit had ever assembled. >>
BAR BAND?!?!?!?! ooooooh that was a harsh one. Say that to someone in Japan an they'll kick your ass. ;-)
Matt
+-----------------------------------+ | "A daily dose of eMpTyV | | will flush your mind | | right down the drain." | | | | - Mike Portnoy | +-----------------------------------+
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:38:42 PDT From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Neil's Metronome/Practice Regiments Message-ID: <19980827163842.22123.qmail@hotmail.com>
Yeah, I think he's been using that type of set up ever since like GUP or something. I have to start doing that. I've never practiced to a metronome, only to music. But like some else mentioned in one post of this thread, practicing to a band who's drummer uses a metronome is the same as practicing with a metronome. I guess what I really want to do is start working more on rudiments, like paradiddles (excuse the spelling if it's wrong), fifth rolls, seventh rolls, variations and other practice regiments. You can only play Metropolis, Take the Time and Paradigm Shift so many times before it kinda starts to get boring! :) You know what I'm sayin'? Later for now.
Peace, Love and all that stuff ...
Mike >From: Ibanez506@aol.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4224
>In a message dated 98-08-25 00:08:02 EDT, you write: > ><< I'm almost possitive that Neil Peart uses an electronic metronome of > some sort in concert for some songs. >> > ____________________________________________________________________ > I do believe your right, I know in his insructional video he has a earphone >set-up that looks like the one he uses live. >
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:50:36 -0400 From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: kezcom@aol.com, krackley@weidmuller.com Subject: Mike Portnoy's Virginia drum clinic Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980827114045.00691a20@cyberhost.com>
Bad news about the September 30 clinic:
I just got off the phone with a woman at Melodee Music in Sterling, VA. She said that Mike Portnoy's clinic there has NOT been confirmed. She said that it's "just a rumor put on the Internet." (I could be wrong but I thought MIKE was the one that put it there! <g>) They have been in touch with Mike, but they have not confirmed anything yet. They're "still in their old building and need to move into their new building" before this can happen, she said.
I'd still encourage that we call and show our support for bringing Mike to the area, but don't badger them for details or anything... :)
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:50:16 +0100 From: "Elydian" <elydian@netcomuk.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: NEW MP3 ON JP - PAGE !!!!!! Message-ID: <01bdd1e3$267009a0$75e82ac2@elydian>
>Boyz 'n girlzz .. >check out this file played by John live during one of his clinics, it's >called GEMINI (something to do with his twins?)...and it kicks serious butt >!! You never heard this one before unless you went to one of his clinics.
Unless you happen to own a copy of Rock Discipline, then you've heard various snippets of it.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: EVH/Vai Message-ID: <19980827180406.21855.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
> When you reach a certain speed, there aren't many nuances to add to the > picking. I'm talking some of the top speeds of guys like Petrucci and Vai. > If you had Petrucci and Vai play the SAME 16th notes at 208 BPM, I bet it > would sound extremely similar.
About as similiar as Vai would sound to EVH plaing Eruption note for note. My point is that its just as hard to sound like Vai as EVH, even if you follow the exact practice regimen he did. In your original post you had implied that it was possible to sound like Vai (and not like EVH) because of the disciplined practicing. Thats what Im disagreeing with.
Ern
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:09:45 PDT From: "Michael Velders" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: click tracks... your right Message-ID: <19980827180946.26890.qmail@hotmail.com>
Awesome. I'm going to be getting a copy of that as a matter of fact. I can't wait. I'm going to where the magnatism right outa the friggin thing within the first week! :)
>From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
>Subject: Re: click tracks... your right
>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Michael Velders wrote:
>> OK Yeah That's gotta be it! That makes total sense. I guess he >> uses a metronome to keep time and plays the basic track, then plays >> another track on top of that. Thanks!
> > > Actually, if you have the Live in Tokyo video, during the part > where they're in the studio making I&W, you can here the click > track, especially (I think) in the part were John Myung is > putting down the bass track. At the end of the bass part, (the > short instrumental part after "i feel kindness, beauty, and
Mike
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4232 Message-ID: <19980827181852.28075.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>
> Subject: Attention Deficit! PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT!!!!!
Is it just me, or are there more and more people who get all stressed when nobody listens to them? Anyways,a couple of people, including me, have commented and reviewed it. When I first got it, I liked it, but wasnt exactly blown away. But every time I listen to it I like it more and more. In fact it's the only CD I'm constantly listening to now, aside from Fear Factory's 'Obsolete'. <--- GREAT fucking CD
Ern
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:56:25 PDT From: "Vince French" <vfrench@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Mix Message-ID: <19980827185626.28129.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey jammers,
I made myself a DT Mix CD from all my CDs, and here's what I came up with.
Metropolis, Part I Scarred Peruvian Skies Take The Time Voices Trial Of Tears Learning To Live
Those 7 songs take up 71 minutes!! Pretty cool mix though...
BTW, any jammers here from the Ontario region, more specifically Ottawa???
Vince
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT-related sighting. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.01.9808271554100.13914-100000@mariner.cris.com>
I was flipping pages through one of the local San Francisco A&E newspapers ("rags" are they called?) and I got to a full-page ad for Virgin Megastore, which is this huge record store, in case you didn't know. On this ad are album covers for six releases, one of which is EXPLORERS CLUB, "Age of Impact". Price: $11.99. I thought that was pretty cool to see.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:16:49 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The "Infamous" Lisa Marie... Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5E8D47D8@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
> >Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:07:02 -0400 > >From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil> > > > >It was good meeting everyone at Powermad - especially the > irrepressible Dr. > >Mosh, Rick "Dolby Labs" Audet, and the infamous Jessie. > > Infamous!? *sniffle*sniffle* :'o{ > > Sheesh, ya start one catfight on the jam, and suddenly you're > infamous.
Actually, infamous is good, coming from me. Besides, anybody that looks that good at a festival that early on Sunday deserves a comment...
OK, so I'm shamelessly kissing up. So sue me. :)
BTW, I'm on the phone with Keith right now, and he says he's planning on doing a Powermad 1999, building on the lessons learned from this year. Yay!
Oh, and if anybody cares, the "Ascension to Eternity" Cd's should be in next week.
Mike Division
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:19:49 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Reading Zero Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5E8D47D9@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
The Doc returns...
> To Brian (I think thats who) asked about who the band was that played > before Division, that was Reading Zero... they put on an awesome live > show... much better than the album...
I was quite impressed with them, as well. They were also really cool guys - especiall their bassist Chris, who found an interesting new use for quarters on Saturday night... :)
Patiently waiting for DT to play near me...
Mike Division
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:25:37 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Progressive Genius Needs new owner! Message-ID: <35E5C0C0.B9746C93@wezl.org>
Yes, you heard right...I've decided I'm going to give up "Progressive Genius" the Progressive Metal Webring. I don't have enough time to run 2 rings effectivly right now, and I want to focus more on LSOAR than Progressive Genius...especially since I just run the ring for PG and someone else owns the domain and runs the page. So...anyone who wants to take on this task, send me E-mail at emoeglin@wezl.org with a short little essay about why you'd like to do this, how yer qualified, and also what your work/school schedule is like. I will give the winner the login and pass for the ring...and will also give them some training with how to work all of it (it's pretty easy). The ring has grown tremendously over the past year...and most of the bands have seen significant requests for tapes and stuff from their sites since joinging the ring. Alrighty...that's all fer now, make sure you don't post to the Jam or most likely you'll be flamed or something. Take care!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT-related sighting. Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980827131902.538985526A-100000@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Rick Audet wrote:
> > > I was flipping pages through one of the local San Francisco A&E newspapers > ("rags" are they called?) and I got to a full-page ad for Virgin > Megastore, which is this huge record store, in case you didn't know. On > this ad are album covers for six releases, one of which is EXPLORERS CLUB, > "Age of Impact". Price: $11.99. I thought that was pretty cool to see.
You know, this is quite heartening. A few years ago, i saw Awake in a similar ad, and FII more recently. Now, with AoI, a minor label is getting that type of ad space. It makes me wonder if musicianship actually *is* making a comeback. If so, a lot of bands are coming in just in time. Like mine ^_^
But anyways, I also got to thinking on a few statements from jams gone by, and wondered, "If Yes, Kansas, ELP, DP, Tull, and other big proggy-type bands are still making records at the ripe old age of 50-ish (for the members), how long will DT endure?" Emerson sounds like he's still pretty dang spry, and even Ian Anderson can keep up some of his stage prescence. I'm wondering if DT's conservative stage antics will keep them going longer? I mean, some of those classical guitarists played until they died at 90 or so, and were always getting better...
Opinions? Don't ignore me, I might scream and cry! ^_^
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:52:21 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: King's X is Christian prog? Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980827165221.0079c910@mail.erinet.com>
>Whaaaaat? Did I get it wrong or is King's X really a Christian >progmetal band???????
no. they are not a prog band. they are not a metal band. they are not a christian band.
TRUE: they have some prog influences. they are a rock band with a lot of beatles, soul, and jimi influences (and others as well). they write some spiritual/searching lyrics in their songs, and one member claikms to be a christian (the other 2 do not claim to be).
Dan
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