YTSEJAM Digest 4241
Today's Topics:
1) Dick <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
by Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) All Hootie
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
3) C'est la vie, Ytsejam
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
4) C'est la vie, Ytsejammers!
by "Korg X3" <korg_x3@hotmail.com>
5) Doug Pinnick/Hootie
by "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net>
6) Re: Doug Pinnick/Hootie
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
7) YOUnique preorders / Dragon*Con 1998
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
8) Re: Doug Pinnick and all
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
9) Re: Dream Theater Screen Saver
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
10) CHANGE OF ADDRESS
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
11) samples
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de>
12) No 'Deth bashing?
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
13) ENCHANT recommendations needed
by "Volodya" <dr.riffken@hol.fr>
14) Re: CHiPs/Paul Gilbert
by drnewb@spiff.net
15) Ice Age Demo Tape Trade?
by MTeiper@aol.com
16) RATT on sunset
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu>
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:16:28 +0200
From: Dushko <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dick <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <35E899DC.528EB4B6@mol.com.mk>
> Subject: NDTC; Satch
>
> O, yeah, can anybody give me a review about all Satriani albums. I already
> got Flyin_iABD and Crystal_P. Love both. But, I love Crystal_P better, I
> think. Maybe it's the vocal or something. So, what do you think I must buy
> first? Sometimes I can find Satch album here in the 'used tape/CD market'.
>
> Dick
Hi!
Well, I have all Satch albnums so here it gores.
Man, IMO Crystal Planet is Satch worst album! No feeling at all, no
nothing! It lacks somehting that makes you interested.
Flying is great album, very rich, colourful, with differemt sounds and
astyles.
If you wanna hear Satch rockin' you MUST find "Time Machine" - double CD
but a worth one! Contains his best work ever! You'll realize why he's in
music encyclopdieas. :-) Also has live rockin' songs. It is best album
IMO.
Also Surfing With The alien" is very good.
If you like bluesy musci, the "Joe Satriani" album (previous one) is
EXCELLENT. It is my 2 fave Satch album! Very rich album also, very
groovy. It really doesn't leave you ignorant. Great melodies!
And finally "Extremist" is also cool album but if I rank it will be
maybe 4-th, 5-th!
Hope this helps! :)
Dushko
-- \|/ _____________________________o_o_______ <| \ / |> <| "Chuck! Chuck! This is your cousin ...|> <| your cousin, Marvin Berry! |> <| Remember the new sound you were |> <| looking for? Well listen to THIS!" |> <| |> <| - Back To The Future I |> <|_______________________________________|>------------------------------
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:45:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: All Hootie Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980829203832.67322B-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
I mean for instance > when you hear Darrius Rucker from (ug) Hootie and the Blowfish, you know that > he's black.. you can tell in his voice.
When I first heard Hootie, I remember thinking that Darius sounded like Eddie Vedder. They share the same range and do similar things with the rasp in their voice. I think the song was "Hold My Hand." I also remember thinking, "Wow. I didn't know Pearl Jam could write a decent song." Sorry.
Richie
P.S. Speaking of Hootie, I just caught the video for their new single (I think it's called "I Will Wait") from their forthcoming album Musical Chairs. Let me tell you, that song is fucking incredible. It has the HUGEST chorus I have a heard from a mainstream rock band since 1994. I'll definitely be picking it up. And I'm no longer affilated with Atlantic Records, so I'm not kissing ass when I say that.
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:41:10 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: C'est la vie, Ytsejam Message-ID: <003601bdd3b8$05639f20$260d84d0@korgx3>
Well, as much as I hate to say it, I'm out of here. I dunno what happened, I dunno why, but I can't send a fucking thing through to the jam anymore. I'm only getting this through via my friend's mailhost and I'm not going to put up with doing this. Obviously, someone doesn't want me posting here anymore so I'm not gonna blow smoke up their ass.
Maybe if the whole thing is fixed, I'll be back at a later date if the powers that be allow, but until then, you homos keep in touch. :)
AL, to answer your question. "Why does hair not grow on ice?"
Ice has a symbiotic releationship with hair, rather than a mutual one. Hair will allow ice to grow on it and feed off of it while ice doesn't not have the nutritional requirements to support hair growth. One can grow on the other, but not vice versa. However, medical breakthroughs are taking place where as ice may not have to roam about bald any longer. They are now able to take hair follicles from pigs and "weave" them into ice, therefore allowing ice to grow hair, however artificially. But then, when I look at a map of Canada, I get the feeling it is suffering from male-pattern baldness, don't you?
And to that, much adieu about nothing,.. -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:58:29 PDT From: "Korg X3" <korg_x3@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: C'est la vie, Ytsejammers! Message-ID: <19980830015830.10167.qmail@hotmail.com>
Well, as much as I hate to say it, I'm out of here. I dunno what happened, I dunno why, but I can't send a fucking thing through to the jam anymore. I'm only getting this through with hotmail and I'm not going to put up with doing this. Obviously, someone doesn't want me posting here anymore so I'm not gonna blow smoke up their ass.
Maybe if the whole thing is fixed, I'll be back at a later date if the powers that be allow, but until then, you homos keep in touch. :)
AL, to answer your question. "Why does hair not grow on ice?"
Ice has a symbiotic releationship with hair, rather than a mutual one. Hair will allow ice to grow on it and feed off of it while ice doesn't not have the nutritional requirements to support hair growth. One can grow on the other, but not vice versa. However, medical breakthroughs are taking place where as ice may not have to roam about bald any longer. They are now able to take hair follicles from pigs and "weave" them into ice, therefore allowing ice to grow hair, however artificially. But then, when I look at a map of Canada, I get the feeling it is suffering from male-pattern baldness, don't you?
And to that, much adieu about nothing,.. -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:37:50 -0400 From: "Death Lord" <preston@in-tech.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Doug Pinnick/Hootie Message-ID: <004301bdd3bf$2f41d620$4718acd1@Customer.in-tech.net>
>From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall)
>On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 Inflammabl@aol.com writes:
>> Also, I was really surprised when I saw this. Doug Pinnick is >>black.. I had NO idea that he was. His vocals sound really white, not that I >Wow! I never thought I'd hear this in a million years. Everyone I've >ever introduced KX to (or played LitS for) has always asked >(unfortunately) "Is that a black guy singing for a metal band?" As >if it makes a difference what color the performers are...although >there are physical differences that tend to give "black" singers >their "soul".
I always knew he was because I remember seeing them on eMpTV along time ago (before I knew DT existed). I think Doug has a very unique voice from what I've heard of King's X. >>when you hear Darrius Rucker from (ug) Hootie and the Blowfish, you >>know that he's black.. you can tell in his voice. Of course, one of the >(ug)? (ug) is all you can say? Talk about a singer who displays a >complete lack of "soul"! I personally find HatB's stuff in general to >be bland - but that's opinion. My opinion, more specifically.
What's funny is when Hootie first came out and they had their "hits," I recall some people in my school saying "Hootie's black???" When they found this out. I thought it was a little funny. I don't think Darrius Rucker has a voice that shouts out "Hey I'm black!" so I could see how they could think he was white, but what matter does that make? I like Sevendust alot, and the singer is black. I actually think he's really good because he can do the traditional metal voice without sounding really "Cookie monster", and he can have a soulful sound. I wonder...is there a prog-metal band with a black vocalist that anyone knows exists? Just curious... Death Lord NP: Dream Theater: Falling Into Obscurity
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:36:47 -0300 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Doug Pinnick/Hootie Message-ID: <35E8ACAE.3F19EAC7@caribe.net>
Death Lord wrote:
I always knew he was because I remember seeing them on eMpTV along time ago (before I knew DT existed). I think Doug has a very unique voice from what I've heard of King's X.
> I wonder...is there a prog-metal band with a black vocalist that anyone > knows exists? Just curious... > Death Lord > NP: Dream Theater: Falling Into Obscurity
something like that happened to me too, altough i knoew right from the start that pinnick was black ( i dont understand how could one could think otherwise....i dont know why but the richness (?) of the voice , specially on the stuff he does in the Fan club cd is a dead giveaway... i was so pleased with his voice i went out and bought King's X's greatest hits expecting something along the lines of LITS or other dt stuff but with the soulful and rich vocals...but to say i was dissapointed by the music is an understatement..anyone want a drink coaster..err cd?
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YOUnique preorders / Dragon*Con 1998 Message-ID: <199808300402.AA25463@crl.crl.com>
Hi there.... I just thought I'd update the latest status on Superior's YOUnique (for signed copies), and also mumble a few words about this little soiree we hold each summer here in Atlanta for 18,000 of my closest friends... :)
+-- YOUnique --+
I've been gathering orders and payments for signed copies of Superior's new CD YOUnique for people residing (mostly) in the Eastern US. After I received payment for 29 copies I sent a combined payment for 30 CDs (I "floated" one :)) over to Bernd in Germany, who received it and has now mailed the CDs back. The CDs were mailed on Friday August 21st and should be here within 11 days, so they said, so we're looking at this coming Monday or Tuesday (let's hope, anyway). As soon as they arrive I'll mail them out in the order that payments were received. This order, as well as all pertinent information on the ordering process, is on the Webpage, at http://www.crl.com/~vanyel/younique.html
I have now (finally!) received a thirtieth payment, so at this precise moment all the Cds in the first ("pre-release") batch have been taken. If they arrive soon from Bernd I should be able to get most of them out in time to beat the US release date of Sept. 6th (or so).
Pam, who handles the Western US, and I will continue to offer signed copies of this CD even after the street-date passes. If you are interested, please see the above URL. (They're $17 postpaid.)
+-- Dragon*Con --+
If the CDs arrive later next week, I'll do my damndest to get them out as fast as possible. However, beginning late Tuesday and running through Sunday I'll be helping to present Dragon*Con here (I'm a director and the Webmaster), the world's largest science fiction/fantasy/comics/gaming/music/media convention, so it could get kinda busy. Several Ytsejammers are already planning on attending from as far away as California; if you are coming down (or up) for it and I don't know about it, please drop me a note. It'd be quite cool to have a small Ytsegathering during the con.
The URL is www.dragoncon.org. Let's just say that we have something for damn near everyone, including 15-20 bands playing. (Everything from GWAR and The Misfits to proggy bands like The Changelings and Wyzards, and lots of cool stuff in between.) Over 300 guests; over 18,000 attended last year.....it's THE summer event in Atlanta. If you're interested in this, please drop me email.
Mark Peters and Phil Carter, I'll hold your CDs and give them to you at Dragon*Con when I see you. :)
Gonna be a BUSY week, --Paul (downloading and archiving Jams right now; please respond via email)
-- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective Paul W. Cashman And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive vanyel@crl.com And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives ICQ# 4151223 "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY www.crl.com/~vanyel
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:31:59 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Doug Pinnick and all Message-ID: <35E8D5BF.13D0@bellsouth.net>
interesting, had no idea he was black, pretty cool though. I know what you're saying about alot of black singers and white singers, stereotypically, they're easy to identify, but everytime I hear Luther Kent or Joe Cocker, it's hard to believe they're white, and everytime I hear Nat King Cole, hard to believe he's black. Of course, our judgements on it all are all basically stereotypes, believing that the black singer is more soulful and rough sounding and the white singer is more technical and "pure" sounding, of which both is bullshit, I love listening to Doug Pinnick, James Brown and Johnny Hartman just as much as I enjoy listening to Geoff Tate, Frank Sinatra and Joe Cocker....:) Every type of singer has their own sound, and that's all that matters. hope i said this without offending anyone, talking about anything like this is touchy, but it's all meant with good intentions...:)
btw, some DT content here, was about to buy the Live at the Marquee CD, can anyone tell me if it's any good??? haven't bought any live stuff of any prog bands, so if anyone could let me know, i'd appreciate it...:) -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 00:34:46 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater Screen Saver Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980830003446.00915a00@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
At 11:35 AM 29/08/98 -0700, HazeX wrote: > > >It also installed fine for me. On the other hand it does say it's a preview >version and I think I'm expired already. :( >But, he's not crazy. :)
no, I didnt say he was crazy but it surprised me that you guys had problems with it, Im running mine without problems, I wonder if I could send my files to you guys....I mean...the program that I used installed the screensaver on my computer automatically, and then packed it into a zip file.....
are you able to install the program and set it up as a normal screensaver? does it has sound? how do you know it expires? let me know this so I can fix it up please --- MP3 of the week - "I Do" By Paul Gilbert (Japanesse extra track of "King of Clubs", check the dry ending) http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CHANGE OF ADDRESS Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980830023047.81906C-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
For those who care (and for those who don't), my new e-mail address is now stixntrixx@aol.com. Please send any fan/hate mail ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ there. Thanks.
Richie
P.S. BOSTON HERE I COME!!!
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:34:19 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@fh-niederrhein.de> To: galleryofshadows@coollist.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: samples Message-ID: <35E970FB.618F@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Check out http://www.prog-metal.mypage.org.
THERE YOU CAN FIND SAMPLES FROM FOLLOWING NEW ALBUMS :
ENCHANT'S BREAK SHADOW GALLERY'S TYRANNY ANGRA'S FIREWORKS HAMMERFALL'S LEGACY OF KINGS PLATYPUS'S WHEN PUS COME TO SHOVE AND MANY MORE
NP : Shadow Gallery - Stilleto In The Sand (mp3)
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:12:36 -0600 From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: No 'Deth bashing? Message-ID: <000e01bdd3e5$9241cfc0$0a48d6ce@amd-k6200>
Dick, Indonesian Jammer, wrote:
>BTW, I wonder why there's no(?) bashing to Deth last couples album.....not >like the other "M" band,,,,,,,,,,,,upssssss, I can't believe I just said that... >Is it because Deth isn't as big, or something, I dunno.... >Flame shield mode on... >
No flames from me - your question has a simple answer.
There's no 'Deth bashing cuz there are no lamers in Megadeth. No sucky lead guitarists who can't play in tune, for example. No tasteless lead singers who add extra syllables to the end of every line, for another. And no drummers who talk about how great it is to play simple music instead of that annoying progressive stuff.
And I'm sure Damon would agree ;^)
Ytsefart
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:34:12 +0200 From: "Volodya" <dr.riffken@hol.fr> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ENCHANT recommendations needed Message-ID: <000001bdd40a$1cddc7a0$5b219ac3@default>
Hi Jammers, Yesterday I got Lemur Voice's "insights" album and in the booklet there was a Magna Carta catalog where I noticed a band called Enchant. Are they similar to Lemur Voice ("insights" is awesome I must admit) ? What album / albums would you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
Volodya.
.......................................................................... ............... OPEN ALL NIGHT [ OAN ] RECORDS http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm e-mail: dr.riffken@hol.fr ICQ number: 16845600 ........................................................................... .................
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:05:08 -0500 From: drnewb@spiff.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CHiPs/Paul Gilbert Message-ID: <199808301601.JAA19411@odin.ax.com>
> Oh my God, CHiPs. :) You have an incredible memory bro. With Eric Estrada. > Alan, any relations? :) :) I downloaded 'I do' by Paul Gilbert. Very cool > man. It's not as great as it may seem. I actually have that episode on tape. It's a special 2-hour episode of CHiPs called "CHiPs vs. the Punk Rockers." (I'm serious about that, too :). The climax had a battle of the bands with the punk rockers causing a riot, and Ponch's sorta glamish band winning with a cover of "Celebration." A total riot :). I do also recommend the Paul Gilbert song for anyone curious. I'm not terribly familiar with his stuff, so I checked it out and was pleased. Did any St. Louis jammers make the Anthrax show the other night? I missed. Just wondering if it was good.
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"I'm hip about time."
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 15:32:22 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ice Age Demo Tape Trade? Message-ID: <10e07448.35e9a8c6@aol.com>>
Hey there -
All this talk about Ice Age has peaked my interest. If anyone out there would be willing to do a tape trade with me involving the Ice Age demo people are raving about, please drop me an e-mail. Maybe we can work something out. Thanks!
- Matt T.
P.S.: I actually found a Royal Hunt CD today, "Moving Target". I've never heard these guys, but there fave been a lot of favorable comments on the Jam about them, so I gave it a try. I'm off to go listen to it now. C-Ya!
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RATT on sunset Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980830122626.18899A-100000@bergman.umail.ucsb.edu>
First of all, DT will be at Guitar Center Hollywood in about an hour. I can't make it though
i saw RATT at the Keyclub last night on the Sunset strip and it kickedass. ass. I think a lot of bands are "overly prog" and should just stick to the straight up stuff.
Pretty Boy Floyd opened up. Cross Poison with Crue and thats what they are. They were pretty fun, straight out of the eighties with make up and all. Try to catch them on the 'ROCK NEVER STOPS TOUR'. I met the bassisst after and he was pretty cool.
RATT kicked ass with all the classics and a couple new songs. DeMartini is an awesome guitarist. I met Steven Pearcy and Robbie Crane afterwords. Both were very cool guys. Crane especially must be the nicest dude ever. He even invited the three of us to hang out with them ata bar in the Hyatt but we chickened out and didn't go.
I saw the guitarist for Rage Against the M. at the show. The women there were also amazing. Both in the club and afterwords cruzing the strip. The blonde haired girl from "Pacific Blue" walked right by me. she is very hot. Sunset is probably one of the most materialistic places in America. But if you can see it going off on a weekend night, I highly recommend doing so. quite a sight to see.
If you think you are too good for eighties glam rock, just go and check out a show. YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD TIME.
CINDERELLA in a month!!
-- Conrad Chi uchic00@umail.ucsb.edu
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