YTSEJAM Digest 4471
Today's Topics:
1) Re: More on the LI Clinic
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
by Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com>
3) Voivoid - Phobos
by Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
4) Jaxx, Lie Single...
by szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
5) Portnoy Clinics
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
6) Danzig/Petty
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
7) DT for drum lines
by djhutch@siu.edu
8) Re: Dream Theater Fan Club Scam????
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
by "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
10) Jam bits, going cheap.
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
11) 90's Guitarists?
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
13) Re: Less is more...
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
14) Re: Dream Theater Fan Club Scam????
by OmegaMusic@aol.com
15) re: Jitter
by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
16) Long Island Drum Center Mike Portnoy Clinic
by MutantFOOT@aol.com
17) Re: Less is more...
by "Brian D. Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:44:12 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: More on the LI Clinic
Message-ID: <01BE1E1B.622E3BE0@174.152.dialin.mxs.nl>
Adam Perkowsky wrote :
> I see that Itchy has updated UACM with my directions to Alegante
> Caterers, where the clinic will take place (YOU'RE WELCOME, ITCHY!).
Next time you or anyone else has vital information like this, please
email it to me privately... You will be doing your fellow 'Jammers a
favour (not me).
Mark Bredius
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:36:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Simon Wilkins <s.wilkins@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
Message-ID: <19981202163610.13073.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
Hi there again
> 3) Paganini & Instigation
> by Uroborosss@aol.com
The Crossroads endpiece is NOT Paganini
It is based on a Turkish March by a composer I cant remember.
Watch the credits at the end of the film and see for yourself.
This was discussed at the beginning of September on the jam if you
want to look it up.
Cheers
Simon
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 98 09:03:53 -0800
From: Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: "A daily dose of Ytsejam..." <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Voivoid - Phobos
Message-ID: <199812021703.JAA15351@network-services.uoregon.edu>
I bought "Voivod - Phobos" on a friend's recommendation...and it's become
obvious that we enjoy very different types of music. :-) Consequently,
I'm offering it up for trade/sale, if anyone wants it. It has the two
tracks "M-Body" and the cover "21st Century Schizoid Man". A trade for
maybe something a little more melodic.
That's all,
Andrew
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currently in resurgence. -FZ
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:36:21 -0500 (EST)
From: szebro1@gl.umbc.edu
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Jaxx, Lie Single...
Message-ID: <199812021736.MAA03063@gl.umbc.edu>
> By the way, the January 2nd show scheduled to be at Jaxx (in Virginia) has
> been CANCELLED.
Actually, it hasn't even been cancelled - it was never gonna happen in the
first place. Jaxx will tell anybody anything. They're really full of
shit over there. Too bad there's no better place to see a metal show in
the MD/VA area. :/
> This guy is totally wacked in the head.
>
> He is against:
> Abortion, Alien(the movie), Babylon 5, Barney the Dinosaur,
> The Beatless(sic), Beaver and Butt-head (sic), Bikinis, Carebears,
> Conservationists, Contraceptives, Dancing, Darkwing Duck,
> Dinosaurs, Elvis, Evolution, Fairy tales, Fantasy, Feminism,
> Flag of USA, Foreigners, Freemasons, Halloween,
> Heavy metal music, Hockey, Homosexuals, HTML, Jeans, Jewelry,
> Left-handed people, Lord of the Rings and other books by J.R.Tolkein,
> Magick: The Gathering (and any other role playing games), Make-up,
> Marvel Comics, Masturbation, McDonalds and Ronald McDonald,
> Microsoft, My Little Pony, Negros, New AgeMartial Arts, MTV,
> Power Rangers, Premarital sex, Rap music, rock and roll,
> Science Fiction, She-Man and the Masters of the Universe,
> Miniatures, Mormonism, Sex, Smurfs, Star Trek, Star Wars,
> Swedish and canadian people and other homosexuals and lesbians, (?)
> Television, Tennis, UFOs, Vampires, Vegetarians, and X-Files.
>
> What about Xena? :)
> Item Description:
> Dream Theater-Lie Single UK Includes The Tracks
> Lie(edit)/
> Space Dye Vest/
> To Live Forever (UNRELEASED)/
> Another Day (LIVE UNRELEASED)/
> cd is used but plays great!
..
> Current high bid is about 21 dollars. The URL is
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45437606
I'd be VERY cautious of this if I were you guys. I know the description
SAYS that it's the coveted UK Lie single, but I have a feeling that if I
ordered it I would get the promo with just the Lie edit.
If it IS the real thing, however, congrats to anyone who gets it.
(blah blah harmonies blah blah harmonies...) :)
> Well Fans, It has been a month since I sent my money to the DTIFC England
> address and still no response. I also email Neil Elliott about 2 weeks
> ago and still no response. Is anyone out there having similiar problems
> and what should you suggest I do. Thanks. Feel free to email me in
> private.
I'd hold out a bit longer if I were you. I sent in my money in October of
last year and I didn't get anything until the fan club packet came in late
december. Neil runs a good operation. Hopefully it's nothing more than
he's been busy. Good luck!
Now get your bitch-ass in the kitchen and make me some pie!
Steve Z
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:38:50 EST
From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Portnoy Clinics
Message-ID: <7a3657ca.36657b2a@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-11-21 17:55:51 EST, you write:
<< I just portnoy Wednesday night at a clinic in St Louis and I just want
to make sure everyone realizes he is a god on drums. He also mentioned
that Metropolis 2 is already 25 minutes long and that dt has only played
it once at a rehearsel. >>
I MUST AGREE !!!!!!!
Wasn't Universal Mind, Chris & Kevin's . . . the LTE drumming was out of this
world. We got a preview of OIALT and a local music chain (Zias) stayed open
to midnight just to sell to the DT fans. Also previewed LTE II . . . Can't
wait, I tell you.
I left the Phoenix MP Clinic totally awed, much humbled and thorougly
inspired.
_____Nikki_______________________
~~Through Nature's Inflexible Grace~~
~~I'm Learning to Live --J. Myung~~
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NBA SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:50:56 EST
From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Danzig/Petty
Message-ID: <8064f9cd.36657e00@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-11-24 21:23:06 EST, you write:
<< Tom Petty just wouldn't kick as much ass if Petrucci was tearing apart
sixteenth
note septuplets at 216 bpm over his nasal Southern drone. Of course, I
think JP has enough class to tone it down, should he ever be in that
situation. >>
<<Danzig's "Mother">>
Ohh, yum, I love the smell of sweet sarcasm in the morning. . . LOL, lol,
LOL.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:56:03 -0600
From: djhutch@siu.edu
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT for drum lines
Message-ID: <l03110701b28b2f079e8f@[131.230.208.106]>
a friend of mine here at college was in a drum line in high school that did
an all DT routine. They did A Fortune in Lies, Wait for Sleep, and 6:00.
I saw a video of it and it was pretty damn cool.
btw...
what is the name of the song that Dt did with Steve Hogarth and Steve
Rothery on 5YiaL?
thanx
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 05:13:46 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Dream Theater Fan Club Scam????
Message-ID: <002c01be1e1f$817069c0$156716cb@graham>
>Well Fans, It has been a month since I sent my money to the DTIFC England
>address and still no response. I also email Neil Elliott about 2 weeks
>ago and still no response. Is anyone out there having similiar problems
>and what should you suggest I do. Thanks. Feel free to email me in
>private.
Nope I expect Neil has taken your 12uk pounds and bought himself a round the
world airline ticket and is sitting on some beach right now full of babes,
having a
chuckle about how he ripped you off.
No doubt right now he is planing an early retirement, again using the money
you
sent him and will be living in the lap of luxury for the rest of his
life......
:)
GaZ
PS Neil has ALWAYS responded to any of my email within 24 hours :)
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:31:47 -0600
From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
Message-ID: <862566CE.0069EC8B.00@domino.cdr.wisc.edu>
Al stands by his story:
>
> You're wrong. All it would take to hose up your CD duplication is a
> nearby Ham radio operator cranking up his amp to full legal power.
> Unless both digital playback & recording devices are powered through
> a line conditioner and the interconnect is well shielded, there is a good
> change the hi RF environment could raise hell with the very
semiconductors
> that are processing the data stream. What good is error correction if
the
> signal handling devices themselves are susceptible to RF interference?
>
Would you care to elaborate on this a bit? Here's how I understand this:
Digital audio is 1's and 0's, either the signal is there or it isn't, there
aren't degrees of signal quality. You're using data transfer (ie the same
mechanism by which CD-ROMs run). You simply cannot be losing bits during
such a transfer (else how would a cd-rom program run? Having random bits
removed from an executable program would probably be bad), and if you still
have all the bits exactly the same as they were on the original CD how can
you have lost any sound quality? Granted if you get enough interference I
suppose it could shut your computer down altogether, but in a normal
environment I fail to see... In order for their to be ANY loss in sound
quality bits must be getting lost somewhere, and I don't see where that
happens. I don't claim to be an expert on these matters, but I really
don't understand some of the arguments that are being made. Feel free to
enlighten me.
Biz
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:56:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
To: "Ytse 'The Jam' Ventura" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Jam bits, going cheap.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.981202142945.10101B-100000@gs.bass.org>
Bafu became universally regarded as head instigator and lyric ruiner when
he spouted (among lesser observations):
>Snickers: stop satisfying ;P
>Time: stop slippin' slippin' slippin' ;P
World: Just stop turning, cause it won't be too long. Obviously the Bafu
version of Higher Ground.
CuberDuke questioned my mental perspicacity when he posted:
>Punky's Whips is from the "Sheik Yerbouti" album!
Umm..look again. On SY, he sings lead vox on Broken Hearts Are for
Assholes, I'm So Cute, and Tryin' To Grow a Chin. Maybe on the Macedonian
Pirate copy...:)
Trevor tastefully teased:
>Yellow Testicled South African Elephant
Maybe in Greece, where we would be in the Ytsae jam. Be careful, someone
will actually believe you.
>He's also against: <long list successfully eliminated from repetition>
Hmm...I completely agree with him..not. He would hate this little
animation I received today where Smurfette is handling one of the other
smurf's, umm, problem (?). At least he's managed to learn how to
alphabetize.
That's it for my latest musings. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do,a s
if.
P
NP Hatfield and the North: The Rotters Club (one of the best albums of the
year! well, 1975)
Bjork: Homogenic
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Paul's musical quote for the Month:
Just being alive/ It can really hurt/ And these moments given/ Are a gift
from time
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:09:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: 90's Guitarists?
Message-ID: <19981202200953.9449.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>
So with all this talk about top guitarists (old and new), who are the
top rock shredders from the 90's? The decade is almost over, and it
seems like a bad decade for rock/metal guitarists. (Maybe just a bad
decade for rock in general...)
]From the 70's: Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Ritchie Blackmore,
Micheal Schenker, Ronnie Montrose, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eddie Van Halen,
etc.
]From the 80's: Randy Rhoads, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Vinnie
Moore, Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, Jake E. Lee, etc.
How about the 90's? Is John Petrucci the only one? Jerry Cantrell?
Micheal Romeo (Does he count?, He doesn't even have a domestic (US)
record deal.), Dimebag Darryl?
Who/where are the major shredders from the 90's?
- BH
NP - Angra/Angel's Cry
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:51:51 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4470
Message-ID: <000c01be1e35$984f8200$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
>mechanism by which CD-ROMs run). You simply cannot be losing bits during
>such a transfer (else how would a cd-rom program run? Having random bits
cd readers have error correction. that's why you can still play a CD that's
visibly scratched - once you can see the scratch there's no doubt that some
of the pits and flats have been altered. it can make up for a certain amount
of missing bits. so yes, even if you lost bits, it woudn't stop working
altogether, although the bits stuck in by the error correction algorithm
aren't the same as the original ones, and after quite a few generations i'm
sure you'd be able to audibly notice the difference.
i'm no expert either, i only have a basic understanding of all this stuff
(although i'm a computer engineering major so i'll be learning it all soon,
i'm sure :), but that's what i udnerstand. maybe someone like rogerio or
sumfin who actually knows about thsi stuff technically can expand what i
said? also, i'm curious - what's CRC, exatcly? i know when you're extracting
a compressed file it has CRC checks (i asume to verify that the extracted
file matches the original) and i also assume that this is extended to cd
reading. info? moo.
*** END OF TRANSMISSION ***
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 16:09:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Less is more...
Message-ID: <01J4V9GG15GM8ZERAK@alma.edu>
>This takes the award for the single most ignorant, pigheaded statement I've ev
>>heard on the 'jam! What with current characters like MaX and "Empty Tremor
>blowjob boy" aka ARash Onnamyassa, past flamebait faves such as George Farber
>>and Hazex, and immortal intelligences such as Clark Abel, that's quite an
Damn, it's good to know someone still remembers me fondly. I wan't
expecting to find anything of interest when I resubscribed a few weeks ago,
much less my own name being mentions. But I deserve it. I'd probably only
stand by about 30% of the things I wrote on this list last year. Lately
I've been spending all the extra time not spent arguing over stupid shit
actually enjoying music and practicing my ass off. Much more rewarding.
Thanks for the tribute.
-Clark
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:23:18 EST
From: OmegaMusic@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Dream Theater Fan Club Scam????
Message-ID: <d434221a.3665afc6@aol.com>
Neil was fabulous. I asked that he e-mail me as soon as he got my cash and he
did just that. He's the man.
In a message dated 98-12-02 13:41:38 EST, you write:
<< >Well Fans, It has been a month since I sent my money to the DTIFC England
>address and still no response. I also email Neil Elliott about 2 weeks
>ago and still no response. Is anyone out there having similiar problems
>and what should you suggest I do. Thanks. Feel free to email me in
>private.
Nope I expect Neil has taken your 12uk pounds and bought himself a round the
world airline ticket and is sitting on some beach right now full of babes,
having a
chuckle about how he ripped you off.
No doubt right now he is planing an early retirement, again using the money
you
sent him and will be living in the lap of luxury for the rest of his
life......
:)
GaZ
PS Neil has ALWAYS responded to any of my email within 24 hours :)
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:20:07 -0700
From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: re: Jitter
Message-ID: <199812022134.OAA20132@ganymede.aculink.net>
Funny, my first wife used to jitter a lot whenever she drank too much
coffee...
-Geoffrey
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:33:14 EST
From: MutantFOOT@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Long Island Drum Center Mike Portnoy Clinic
Message-ID: <e3aa527a.3665b21a@aol.com>
Yo-
Last night Mike Portnoy gave a clinic at the Long Island Drum Center.
It was freakin awsome! He played some stuff from LTE (Paradigm Shift and
Universal Mind), DT (Metropolis and Erotomania) and he did some stuff from The
New LTE CD which was made last week. The song "Acid Rain" is new LTE, and
should appear on their second album. If the rest of the album is as good as
Acid Rain (which im sure as hell it will be), then this album is a must get.
on another note, Metropolis Part II will "definitely" be on the next DT album,
according to Mike. After the clinic, Mike signed autographs and such. My
friend asked him for his sticks, ans sure enough, he had his wife bring them
down.. I was sitting in the front row of the show.. I got there extra early to
make sure I hit these seats.. Me and like 10 of my boyz went together, but
some guy from New Jersey was there before us.. either way the show was awsome,
and I cant wait till december 29 when DT hits irving plaza.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:36:03 -0600
From: "Brian D. Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Less is more...
Message-ID: <3665b2c3659e002@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <01J4V9GG15GM8ZERAK@alma.edu>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
> Damn, it's good to know someone still remembers me fondly. I wan't
> expecting to find anything of interest when I resubscribed a few weeks ago,
> much less my own name being mentions. But I deserve it. I'd probably only
> stand by about 30% of the things I wrote on this list last year. Lately
> I've been spending all the extra time not spent arguing over stupid shit
> actually enjoying music and practicing my ass off. Much more rewarding.
> Thanks for the tribute.
Hey Clark! No offense man, you and Mads were always highly entertaining. ;) Good
to see you back.
-Brian
"You can't start a fire worryin' about your little
world fallin' apart." - Bruce Springsteen
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