YTSEJAM Digest 4477
Today's Topics:
1) Don't byte a bit off my chunk
by AL <al@isd.net>
2) rub your cd
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) Multi-effect
by Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com
4) drum tabs
by "Dario" <ciccio@nf.infotel.it>
5) Re: Rollerball and Yngwie
by "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" <Jonathan.Agar@gecapital.com>
6) A New Website
by Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk
7) Re: Old Genesis (NDTC)
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
8) Re: Long Island Drum Center Mike Portnoy Clinic
by "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
9) Over-the-top review
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
10) Re: tribute disc?
by "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
11) Musician magazine
by "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com>
12) jet city, turkisch march
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
13) Re: Threads
by "Alexander T. Coassin" <alex@nemaweb.com>
14) Dream Theater Trackography (last updated 12.04.98)
by MaxArbot@aol.com
15) Another New Jordan Rudess Mp3
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
16) Ow, that hertz!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 02:57:48 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Don't byte a bit off my chunk
Message-ID: <3667A40B.E29377D0@isd.net>
Earle Jason wrote:
>Now Al, I wasn't taking into account outside disturbances like a full
>power RF source or a nuclear explosion or anything like that, and I can
>see how it might affect your electronics, but shouldn't the recorder
>fail to record totally if it is recieving constant errors? I mean, if
>*I* were to design the thing, I'd want the whole damn thing to crap out
>instead of giving me incorrect data - that would be the use of
>redundancy and error checking. I mean, if you were recording data
>instead of audio, there's no way in hell you'd want the random bits
>CowGod (moo.) was mentioning in there - do you have a crappy piece of
>equipment, or are most burners this way? Can you record data onto
>floppies or other magnetic media when your friend cranks up the juice?
>I'm curious... Maybe I'm not understanding.
First of all... This whole thing started over a someone wanting to feed
a HOME CD players ANALOG outputs into another A-to-D converter
to be burned on a CDR. (the CDR having the A-to-D converter)
Here are a few quotes:
Vincent LuPone wrote:
>Or get that new CD Burner from Phillips, hook up your regular CD player
>directly to it, and never lose sound quality.
Al wrote:
{>Not quite, Vincent. You used the term "regular" when describing the
{>playback deck. To me, this means you will be using the analog RCA
{>outputs from the playback deck. Unless you have spent cubic bucks
{>on the playback deck you've already degraded the recording significantly
I mentioned it was *possible* to have a digital-to-digital recording
hosed up by high level RF. The power lines and poorly shielded
interconnects are the ways RF usually find it's way inside the equipment.
Believe me, if I were to point a 27 element loop-yagi antenna at your
computer and crank up 1500 watts at 2.3 GHz, your CD drive may
even deliver a pizza, and Lara Croft would have a 12" penis.
RF can do some funny shit. I could give you plenty of examples that
I have had first hand experience in dealing with. I was/am the neighborhood
ham with the BIG amplifiers. Back in 1984, my neighbor had to bury his
daughter's close-and-play phonograph under several sleeping bags in his
garage in order to get a good nights sleep. I'm not kidding! I was using
a 1200 watt amp on the CB band. Even with the phono unplugged the
RF energy was so strong the the diodes in the phono became a detector
and rectified enough RF energy to useable DC for the amplifier circuit
to power the speaker to melon splitting volumes. (for a close-and-play)
Back in my old CB days I was the terror of anyone within 2 blocks that
had a TV, stereo, touch lamp, older garage door opener, organ, clock
radio and so on...
I reiterate, THIS CAN AND DOES HAPPEN TO DIGITAL DEVICES.
Enough said, this has gone WAY too far. So can we kiss and make up now?
Love
Love will keep up together
Think of me babe whenever
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Sorry, I'm really a stinker tonight.
-- AL... The Ytse-ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Thank you, thank you very much" --EP
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 01:38:35 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: rub your cd Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F37D5@ms.kallback.com>
> From: AyameYuki@aol.com > best way : just rub your CD on some > denim in a pendulum motion. works for me i guess. > Yeah, and if you color the edge of your cd with a green marker it sounds better. :)
Trevor the Ytsebastard
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:46:13 +0100 From: Pieter.Serruys@hydro.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Multi-effect Message-ID: <412566D0.0035B0BB.00@osla28smtp.hda.hydro.com>
> Hi, I am thinking of getting a new multi effects processor, and I wanted to know > which one is pretty god for a resonable price. I have been recomended the Rocktron > Multi Valve and Midimate control pedal. The features that I liked were the ability to0 > connect it to the amps channel out and being able to control the amps channels with > MIdimate, and programmed within the patches. Also, the way it converts the digital > signal into analog so it doesnt suck out the amps tone in the effects loop. Ive > also heard of the TC Electronics G Force, and was wondering if that was any better > while providing the same features I mentioned above, or any other multi's that are > better than the Rocktron unit. Thanks
Why don't you give the new Lexicon MPX G2 a try. It seems to be very good.
Pieter
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:04:08 +0100 From: "Dario" <ciccio@nf.infotel.it> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: drum tabs Message-ID: <m0zlt6u-002F7zC@by>
Hi, I'm going crazy, looking for a software. I mean something to write drum tabs on my PC.(NO MAC, please)(I can't find it!!!!) Send me everything you can:web sites,web pages,e-mails,and all the informations. Thank U.
DARIO
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:36:39 -0000 From: "Agar, Jonathan (CAP, EURO)" <Jonathan.Agar@gecapital.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Rollerball and Yngwie Message-ID: <83E9BD6E053FD111B35A0000F6093E27BE5B1F@LON01XBCAPGE>
So speaking of movies, I'm sure that you all know the classic movie "Rollerball"? There's a part of the movie with some slow music played with strings (it's credited name is "Adagio", but no composer listed). This little section also happens to be the slow part that Yngwie plays in "Icarus Dream Suite" on the "Rising Force" album.
-oOo-
My favourite strings/choir piece in movies is the souped-up version of Vivaldi's 'Gloria in D' at the end of 'Runaway Train' where Jon Voight is standing on top of the train disappearing into the blizzard. It's really haunting. Can't find it anywhere, though. At least I have the Academy of Ancient Music version.
Jonathan
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:19:00 +0000 From: Nikki.Brooks@taywood.co.uk To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: A New Website Message-ID: <296E5B61@MHS>
Here is a new website with some important links:
http://www.angelfire.com/nb/NIXB/
This website will soon be linked to the UACM site (run by Mark Bredius) which will have copies of Dream Theater articles from British Music Magazines.
There is also a direct link so visitors can Vote for Dream Theater in the Metal Edge Readers Poll on-line.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:15:00 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Old Genesis (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9812041311460.3665-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Thu, 3 Dec 1998 Darth1@aol.com wrote:
> > I recently picked up the Genesis album "Trespass" on vinyl at a record show
<snip>
> Does anyone know if this was their first album? Do they have any other albums > with this sound?
They do have an earlier album, called 'From Genesis To Revelation', but as I am told, it is unlistenable... If you like Tresspass, you should certainly pick up Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot. That way you'll have the three IMO classic and all time best Genesis albums... After that you still have Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb, A Trick Of The Tail and wind And Wuthering, who are also very decent...
For more information find yourself a good Genesis-website
Cheers
Zaphod
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 05:03:00 PST From: "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Long Island Drum Center Mike Portnoy Clinic Message-ID: <19981204130301.3617.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey, this is the guy from New Jersey. What's Up? That was an awesome show, eh? I watched the tape the next day and it came out pretty decent. Unfortunately I wasn't able to stick around to talk to or get an autograph from Mike after the show. I had a pounding headache, which is really strange, cause I'm used to sitting right next to the speakers at any show I go to and that's never happened before. I was pretty damn upset. I really wanted to talk to him. Maybe he'll see this post and see what he can do about my wish ... For him to do a clinic at the Sam Ash in Edison, NJ. I'm going to ask the store what I have to do to get that ball rolling. Maybe if I get a petition going that'll convince the store to have him come down. Actually my biggest wish, the best Christmas present I could possibly get would be to jam a couple songs on Mike's drums with the band and hang out with them. Now that would be the SHIT!! :) Anyway, it was definitely a good time. I think that medley he did as kind of an accapella drum version of name that tune was a really cool, original idea. I'm surprised more people didn't yell out the names while he was playing. After watching the tape (and rewinding and re-watching that part a few times), I realized that he said if we knew the song, band, or drummer to just yell it out. Well, more later. Must get back to work! :) Peace!
Mike
>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:55:09 -0800 (PST) >Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com >From: MutantFOOT@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Long Island Drum Center Mike Portnoy Clinic > > >Yo- > Last night Mike Portnoy gave a clinic at the Long Island Drum Center. >It was freakin awsome! He played some stuff from LTE (Paradigm Shift and >Universal Mind), DT (Metropolis and Erotomania) and he did some stuff from The >New LTE CD which was made last week. The song "Acid Rain" is new LTE, and >should appear on their second album. If the rest of the album is as good as >Acid Rain (which im sure as hell it will be), then this album is a must get. >on another note, Metropolis Part II will "definitely" be on the next DT album, >according to Mike. After the clinic, Mike signed autographs and such. My >friend asked him for his sticks, ans sure enough, he had his wife bring them >down.. I was sitting in the front row of the show.. I got there extra early to >make sure I hit these seats.. Me and like 10 of my boyz went together, but >some guy from New Jersey was there before us.. either way the show was awsome, >and I cant wait till december 29 when DT hits irving plaza.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:10:45 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Over-the-top review Message-ID: <000b01be1f87$80c73ee0$2fa1bd9d@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
Warning: your humble reviewer has completely blown a fuse this time.
MISANTHROPE - Libertine Humiliations
Those of you who have been here for some time may remember how enthusiastic I was about "Visionnaire", the last release by this French band. Then, everything was new and I was very pleasantly surprised by what I heard. This time I thought I knew what to expect - wrong. It wasn't possible for me to expect an album this overwhelmingly good. Misanthrope play their own unique brand of music somewhere in between doom, death and progressive metal. Strong Swedish metal influences are clear, and the overall result is something like Dark Tranquillity mixed with equal portions of Dream Theater. All of the songs are powerful and occasionally harsh, being driven along by some excellent bass playing which is pleasantly forward in the mix (nice job by Fredrik Nordstrom). The vocals, which are in French and English, sometimes remind me of early Moonspell with Opeth thrown in. The music is intricate, complex and often very technical but also warm. The guitars are very solid and crunchy with some good lead work. The double-bass blasts have the accuracy of a machine gun. Just when you think you know where a song is going you are surprised by jazzy and/or acoustic interludes, some of which have an almost neo-classical feel to them. This band is really opening up new musical frontiers and I will be more than happy to follow them, since they have managed to mix up some of the musical elements that I like most - dark, heavy, progressive. An excellent performance is made better by an excellent production. Once again, this album is very experimental, sometimes like Sadist, but without the brutality of the Italians, and very, very challenging. If you're looking for some highly talented musicians playing some stunning and enthralling music, go and get this album - you won't regret it. Also the digipack artwork is very good too. A must for Opeth fans. A 100% candidate for 10/10. Pass the tissues.
I also picked up 'As It Is, As It Was' by Candlemass, but that hasn't made it into my CD players yet.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: MISANTHROPE - Libertine Humiliations PS I might be willing to send some samples of this - let me know.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:27:01 -0500 From: "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: tribute disc? Message-ID: <1299340848-12785784@hutman.com>
> From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> > > hear tell the Kansas, Gentle Giant and Toad the Wet Sprocket lists have > had more success.....apparently by having entire bands record songs > rather than having individual fight over who gets to play which > individual part.......
The Gentle Giant tribute looks like a real nice product. I don't know anything about the Toad one, but I know about the Kansas tribute, since i was one of the organizers. One of the tracks was a long- distance collaberation between individuals, but the rest were group contributions. Some great stuff on it..
-steve
============================================== DREG Records - New & Improved Progressive Rock http://www.hutman.com/dreg/
* Sanity * Clockwork * Equinox * Facade * * A Tribute to Kansas and more! * ==============================================
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:42:22 -0600 From: "Johnson, Steve" <steve.johnson@mcd.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Musician magazine Message-ID: <199812041450.GAA29494@knight.axnet.net>
Hey all!
I got a letter published in MUSICIAN magazine that was critical of their November "vocalist" issue. The cover story was an interview Natalie Imburglia (sp?) and Adam Duritz (Counting Crows). They were queried about their style and hwo much they studied and what's important to make it as a singer....blah, blah, blah!
Anyway, I bashed 'em a bit and then asked for insight from real vocalists like Al Jerreau (sp?), Luther Vandross and JAMES LABRIE FROM DREAM THEATER.
Check it out in the JANUARY issue of Musician. Be vocal about quality music, people. Don't accept mediocrity!
Steve
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:00:31 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: jet city, turkisch march Message-ID: <19981204150032.1299.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi all,
while I was contemplating over a pitcher of bad beer yesterday night in the Verona In in Verona,NJ the toothfairy answered my prayer. The Flies were just fading out as a bony bass set in. Me thinks I know this and while I sit there paralyzed, not able to believe what just happens there guitar sets in. Me starts air-drumming, singing: dabadaba daaa, deee until the vox start. Man, I would have been a really happy Jet City Woman, but there's this dick thing. Anyway, I'll go there again, maybe I can hear Best I Can next time.
Jun ghul shit - maybe that's a successor of Tschin gis kan.
Crossroads, the Turkish March is the Mozart piece Eugene plays in the audition, the one with the the bluesy ending. Remember? "You can't obey two masters. If you can't treay Mozart with the respect he deserves" you're outta here. Some like that. It's not very hard to play and gets real fun if you invetnt a bluesy ending on your own.
Schnipp
NP: Dschingis Khan - Moskau moskau
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:49:22 -0500 From: "Alexander T. Coassin" <alex@nemaweb.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Threads Message-ID: <36680482.A9602E41@nemaweb.com>
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What happened to the DT content?
It seems everyone is talking about everything except DT.
Oh well...
- alex
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:45:12 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Dream Theater Trackography (last updated 12.04.98) Message-ID: <f32116f8.36681198@aol.com>
Hey there, fellow Ytsie's. I just added a trackography to my web site. I tried to fill in the appropriate info for each song. If anyone sees any discrepancies, just let me know. I'd like to keep this trackography updated as often as possible :o)
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/trackography.html">The Dream Theater Trackography</A>
[eriC] <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/home.html">THE DRE/\M THE/\TER</A> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/quiz/quiz.html">The Dream Theater Quiz</A> - Think you know everything about DT? Prove it.
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:12:46 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Another New Jordan Rudess Mp3 Message-ID: <002c01be1fa9$5341ae20$8badd6d0@multimedia>
I put up a new Jordan Rudess Mp3 on my site. Yet another one of his typical dramatic piano/keyboard pieces. Enjoy and have a great weekend.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:51:16 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ow, that hertz! Message-ID: <005801be1fae$cfa63760$0201010a@chuck>
>a HOME CD players ANALOG outputs into another A-to-D converter >to be burned on a CDR. (the CDR having the A-to-D converter)
This is absolutely true. My friend lives right next to an AM radio station. He can't do *shit* in his old house without picking up KBAR over the phone, TV, radio, guitar amp, etc. We tried recording stuff there once and it sucked, even though we had lots of real cool samples of sexually unsatisfied women whining to Dr. Laura.
>computer and crank up 1500 watts at 2.3 GHz, your CD drive may >even deliver a pizza, and Lara Croft would have a 12" penis.
LOL! I've seen it happen! Perhaps it was that Eckie Man-Boob patch I downloaded, though, I can't remember...
>I reiterate, THIS CAN AND DOES HAPPEN TO DIGITAL DEVICES. >Enough said, this has gone WAY too far. So can we kiss and make up now?
Of course it can. The RF band crap travels across AC Power lines rather well (depending on how well shielded they are, of course) and unless you're running your stuff off of batteries, your device will pick them up all the same. Your computer, for example, will convert the AC it receives into DC using capacitors on the fly. The AC will STILL be detectable after the conversion, varying depending on how beefy your capacitors are. (The more Fahreds <sp?> in the capacitor, the smaller the AC signal). If the RF signals riding the AC are strong enough, it can really whack out the digital signals in your machine, turning zeros to ones and shit which is some bad Mojoman.
Now, RF latches onto a weak, POORLY shielded analog LINE like Michael Jackson to Macauley Culkin. To keep it out, keep the length OF your cable as short as possible, uncoiled, and use shielded cable. It can ALSO help if the devices that are powering THE output signal are GROUNDED. (three prong outlets).
>It seems everyone is talking about everything except DT.
What? You just did. :) Just wait a week or two until the Home for the Holdays minitour starts up again. There'll be Skadzloads of DTC as people rave about the shows. :) I hop, I hop, I hop. *boing, boing boing*
"Somtimes, there just aren't enough rocks..." -- Forrest Gump -- KorgX3 BTW: There were specific words ephasised with caps in the previous for no reason at all, simply to throw you off. :)
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