YTSEJAM Digest 4484
Today's Topics:
1) Nightwish samples
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
2) Re: Vibrato
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
3) Help me with my collection!
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
4) Re: Powermad CDs
by Perk1994@aol.com
5) Re: Vocal vibrato.
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
6) Re: Help me with my collection!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
7) Antiquities Boot CD
by AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
8) Re: Resident Evil?? What have you been smoking?
by Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net>
9) I've gotta get on caribe.net.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
10) Nightwish
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
11) Silly ol' me, I forgot something
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
12) Re: King's X/ Galactic Cowboys tour 1999 (NDTC)
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
13) European King's X/Galactic Cowboys dates...
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4483
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
15) DT on bestsellers list at CDNOW
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
16) Vai - FLEXABLE LEFTOVERS clarification
by JKorby1973@aol.com
17) Nightwish/Labyrinth
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) The Wall / Bafu is mortal :)))
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
19) 7 strings
by "Chris Herbst" <cherbst@usa.net>
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:31:48 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Nightwish samples
Message-ID: <004401be220f$e19d7880$616716cb@graham>
The Nightwish samples are at:
http://www.nightwish.com/home2.htm
Look under MP3 for some samples, note that they
are NOT full songs.
Look under 'Reviews' for my review of 'Oceanborn', it's
somewhat tamer than Eckies :)
GaZ
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:36:39 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Vibrato
Message-ID: <199812071836.KAA28290@gms.gmsnet.com>
Speaking of vibrators... that guy from Dali's Dilemma... what's his
name, I think he's on here somewhere... some fierce vibrato technique...
oh well... guess you guys'll have to hear it sometime in the spring...
-The Doc
-- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.------------------------------
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:03:05 -0800 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Help me with my collection! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981207110305.008c5650@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to puruse my likes and dislikes and offer suggestions for me as to where to look for the next great band in my collection. I am always looking for new music, so any help would be appreciated.
Prog that I have been exposed to and like, with *'s next to particular favorites (in alphabetical order):
Angra* Jason Becker* Dream Theater* Echolyn* Enchant (ABoTW only, Wounded sucks) EC: AOI Fates Warning* Galactic Cowboys Gentle Giant King's X Queensryche* Rush* Savatage* Shadow Gallery* Spock's Beard* Superior* Symphony X* Trans-Siberian Orchestra Vanden Plas Yes
Rock/popular bands I really enjoy:
Aerosmith Alice in Chains Bush Creed Foo Fighters Goo Goo Dolls GNR Live Matchbox20 Dave Matthews Loreena McKennit Sarah Mclachlan Megadeth Metallica Pantera Pearl Jam RHCP Simon & Garfunkle Tool
Prog bands I have listened to repeatedly and NOT enjoyed.
Enchant (anything other than TBoTW) Lemur Voice Magellan Royal Hunt Stratovarius
Thanks for all your help everyone!
Jon
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:41:19 EST From: Perk1994@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Powermad CDs Message-ID: <3bfcef29.366c2f5f@aol.com>
Kevin Madden said in digest 4482, << I just thought I would let you all know that I received my Powermad 3cd compilation on Saturday. Amazing. It's only December. But, hey, I got it. How about the rest of you? Doc? Spine (no fist for you)? Pat? Etc? >>
Hello all, It must be pretty damn cold in hell these days as I got my Powermad set in the mail today. Pretty good so far. The first song, by a band called Kenzinger, is great.
Take care, Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Vocal vibrato. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981207150348.22849A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
<snip> > You know, all this talk about listening to classically trained singers and > vibrato is rather funny to me. I took a class in voice fundamentals last > semester and my prof always made a big deal about how, if you were totally > relaxed from the start, vibrato just naturally happened from the outset. <snip>
You're right. Vibrato, when used in a voice, DOES come out naturally, IF you're singing classical music. However, in a less legit style, such as Musical Theater or rock, or jazz, vibrato is adjusted by the diaphragm (or so my teacher says?). This is because the typical way to sing notes in those situations is to hold a note at a straight tone for a while before letting the vibrato filter in. I think it creates tension in the music or something.
BTW, I also got 6 CDs for a buck: Rush (which I'm really glad to get because I've never listened to Rush before - Anybody got Rush URLs that I could hear?), Garth Brooks - Live in Central Park (2 CDs), and the Barenaked Ladies "Stunt" CD. Very happy about that. Thanks to whomever posted that link in the first place.
------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://cout.ml.org/ <== My webpage! ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------- "Friends are people who help you move. But REAL friend help you move BODIES." -------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:48:24 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Help me with my collection! Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812071739420.11145-100000@jaca>
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Jon Kretschmer wrote:
> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to puruse my likes > and dislikes and offer suggestions for me as to where to look for the > next great band in my collection. I am always looking for new music, > so any help would be appreciated. > > Prog that I have been exposed to and like, with *'s next to particular > favorites (in alphabetical order):
[List of favorites deleted]
Would you be willing to venture yourself into the Death/Black Metal Realm? If so, then you already know my recommendation: go to <http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/opeth/>.
(I hope my server is working now, so you can check it -- if not, then please try later).
> Thanks for all your help everyone! > > Jon
Hope this helps, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:38:03 -0200 From: AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br> To: "'ytsejam@axnet.net'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Antiquities Boot CD Message-ID: <CB9A835262C6D1118B3B00805FEA2A719C41EF@CORREIO>
Hi jammers!
Recently I got a Antiquities boot CD, from Prism Records but I got no liners. Is that possible for any of you scan the front and back covers and e-mail me, please?
Thanks in advance,
Alex Curitiba, Brazil
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:08:50 -0500 From: Craig Griffith <tarkus@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Resident Evil?? What have you been smoking? Message-ID: <366C43E2.8A0CD5C2@softhome.net>
Paul Weiss wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Craig, while visions of Playstations danced in his > head, wrote: > > > Eckie wrote: > > > > > Okay, so I can't go into an in-depth > > > analysis of how Destiny ranks among the patented Eckie Euro-Metal Ass > > > Kicking Spectrometer (beep beep beep BEEPBEEPBEEP..."Egon, what does > > > that mean?" "The metalheads are right behind...THIS DOOR!" > > > "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAYAAAAAAAAA!!!" "Peter! Are you okay?!" "Pfft. Yeah. > > > I've been...progged!") but I have a damn good reason. > > > > Resident Evil reference? > > The clue was in the names. Obviously Ghostbusters, the first. I am the > keymaster. Easy mistake to make. <snicker>
Actually, it could be interpreted as a combined reference. In Resident Evil, the translation of the dialogue from Japanese to English and the voice acting join forces to create speech like "Don't open...that door!" (the one I saw in Eckie's post) and "the master of unlocking" (referring to the main character Jill). BTW, thanks for being flippant. I love that.
-- Craig Griffith: High school student, guitar player, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:05:51 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: I've gotta get on caribe.net. Message-ID: <007a01be222d$df1ac9a0$0201010a@chuck>
>From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> >Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 1:48 PM >>>its a U2 song
>From: Jan Opsal <janopsal@online.no> >Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 2:06 PM >>>"Red Hill Mining Town" is a cover song, am I right?
Carlos? Explain how you answered Jan's question 20 minutes before he sent it. And while you're at it, send me Wednesday night's Powerball numbers. Privately, of course. :)
I can see it. Carlos' life mimicks that of the guy on Early Edition. He receives the next Ytsejam digest before it is published and must use this prognostic knowledge to rescue humanity...
Or something. -- KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:48:52 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Nightwish Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.981207144818.31226A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Where can we find the albom? Can't even find their web cite. Wellness. Matt B
============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin)
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:48:00 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Silly ol' me, I forgot something Message-ID: <366C5B20.B580D45A@imap1.asu.edu>
Yall probably want the url right about now to download some mp3 samples of Nightwish and order the CD, huh?
Heheheheh, just in case you hadn't figured that mystery out yet. ;)
And I *HAVE* found a major flaw with this record--IT'S WAY TOO SHORT! I WANT MORE NIGHTWISH! RAHHH!
~Eckie Again
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:54:43 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: King's X/ Galactic Cowboys tour 1999 (NDTC) Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981207185443.007a1470@mail.erinet.com>
>>KING'S X & GALACTIC COWBOYS WORLD TOUR 1999 >>=========================================== > >If they are doing a so called 'world tour', will this include >a part of 'the world' called Australia :) ?
actually, so far it's only US/Canada & Europe... maybe one day...
Dan
+--- ---+ Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "He who laughs last thinks slowest" +--- ---+
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:04:25 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: European King's X/Galactic Cowboys dates... Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981207190425.007a3710@mail.erinet.com>
i only posted the US/Canada dates before. the European dates are on my page, too...
http://www.dlm.net/gc/tour.html
and, yes, i think they're coming to Norway.
Dan
+--- ---+ Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "He who laughs last thinks slowest" +--- ---+
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:10:51 EST From: ToxicSheep@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4483 Message-ID: <bd2c9e5f.366c6e8b@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/7/98 1:15:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com writes:
<< They can go to www.800.com and get=20 CD's for free (almost) >>
I just have a question...how?..., did I miss something?..., is there a sale,a way to "cheat them out", or just good deals? thanks, Adam
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:07:44 EST From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: DT on bestsellers list at CDNOW Message-ID: <cc632250.366c7be0@aol.com>
DT's Once In A Livetime is on the 30% off list at $17.48 instead of $24.97. Just thought I would share! :}
~Lisa DragynLMC3@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:23:00 EST From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Vai - FLEXABLE LEFTOVERS clarification Message-ID: <705862f5.366c7f74@aol.com>
Awhile back people were asking about the Vai boxed set and his latest release "Flexable Leftovers". Many of you said that you already own it and that it came out years ago. What you are talking about is Vai's "Flexable" album. The CD version of which included 4 tracks at the end that were taken from an entirely different cd called "Flexable Leftovers"- hence the title at the end of that cd called "Flexable Leftovers". This new cd or "re-release" is the entire "Flexable LEFTOVERS" collection, which has those 4 songs, plus 9 other songs. 8 of which Vai re-recorded for this release. There were only 2000 copies of "Flexable Leftovers" EVER released, so that is why this is considered a "re-release". Here is the track listing according to www.vai.com:
1."#?@! Yourself" (8:27) 2."So Happy" (2:43) 3."Bledsoe Blvd" (4:22) 4. "Natural Born Boy" (3:34) 5. "Details at 10" (5:58) 6. "Massacre" (3:25) 7. "Burnin' Down the Mountain" (4:20) 8. "Little Pieces of Seaweed" (5:12) 9. "San Sebastian" (1:08) 10. "The Beast of Love" (3:30) 11. "You Didn't Break It" (4:19) 12. "The X-Equalibrium Dance" (5:10) 13. "Chronic Insomnia" (2:03)
Just thought I'd toss this bit of 411 at you all. The disc comes out Dec. 8! Enjoy! - JK "Seize the Vai" -JK
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:39:33 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Nightwish/Labyrinth Message-ID: <199812080139.RAA04100@gms.gmsnet.com>
Well... Just a few things... I was at Death/Hammerfall this weekend, nothing like a packed joint of death metal heads ready to kill things, it was fun... Hammerfall, being Euro-powermetal ala Helloween, ManOWar on speed, Strato, put on a good show, I was surprised the usually taunting DEATH crowd didn't boo them and was actually quite into them... Death as always, is Death, cannot be described, you just have to see them once live... the fans are interesting of themselves...
Nightwish: some serious euro-double-bass-in-your-face powermetal with a hauntingly gothic like female singer... Oceanborn is not released till February worldwide from what I gather.
Labyrinth: on the euro-double-bass-powermetal front, these guys kick some serious ass... Italian band... really good feel in the music. Distributed by Metal Blade in the U.S. No samples online as of yet... I'll get to work on it..;
-The Doc
-- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 20:55:51 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The Wall / Bafu is mortal :))) Message-ID: <366C32C7.5D103AF@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Mc-Merc <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> > > Ozzy Osbourne is going to sing one song on Rick Wakeman's 'Return > to the Centre of the Earth'!! Yesssssir! Oh, but > don't get too excited about it! Bonnie Tyler and Trevor Rabin are > also in the project, which is shaping to be a disaster, very similar > to Roger Water's The Wall (in Berlin).
Auch! That hurts! ;(
Ahmmm, er, what's wrong with The Wall????? OK, Roger can't sing as he could, but disaster???? No way! All those gyest appereacne was cool! Great concert IMO!
Highlights: Duel guitars on "Comfortably Numb" solo part!!! Woohoooo! :)
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 05:24:51 EST > From: Uroborosss@aol.com > Subject: David Who? > > I've never heard David Gilmour. None of my posts have ever > mentioned David Gilmour. You have me confused with another Bafu. > > Bafu Vai
So he IS vulnerable???? ;) Never heard Dave ... :)
> Matej, Slovenian jammer > > >KING'S X & GALACTIC COWBOYS WORLD TOUR 1999 > >=========================================== > > Typically american... they call it a world tour then > they tour just states and canada :)
Dobar ti je shtos zemljak! :) Shto su arogantni ti Ameri.
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:48:20 -0500 From: "Chris Herbst" <cherbst@usa.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 7 strings Message-ID: <000201be2255$373223f0$f213bfd1@syrinx>
And another question: why is it that people always argue that JP uses a 7 string in a song or not? Is it much harder to play?
I always thought this was kind of funny. Bassists have been using 5 and = 6 strings for much longer than guitarists were using 7's. But only when guitar players got the lower notes, was their music in lower keys. I alw= ays thought it was stupid to buy a 7 string, or a 5 string bass for that purpose, just so you can play everything lower. That's not the point. W= ith more strings you have more notes in each position, allowing for new voicings, not just lower ones. Maybe this is not just irresponsibility o= n the part of guitar players, but also shows how everyone just follows them= in music these days. Either way it exposes some poor habits in music.
John Petrucci frees himself from this clich=E9, and others on FII. More textures, less diads, and everyone is playing different parts. The whole "rhythm section" (bass, keys, and guitars doing the SAME EXACT THING) can get tedious.
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