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    Today's Topics:

      1) Another Great (Mostly) DT Mix Tape
     by MTeiper@aol.com
      2) Yes you have, dammit
     by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
      3) Help me with my collection!
     by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
      4) King's X/ Galactic Cowboys tour 1999 (NDTC)
     by Shari Lloyd <slloyd@ccm.net>
      5) YTSEJAM MAILLISTdeadline for OFFER********
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
      6) MERRY CHRISTMAS YTSEJAMERS
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
      7) ho ho ho.....
     by Kris@kkringle.com
      8) 5YIAL, some thoughts...
     by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
      9) DT promos for sale
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     10) Re: Why I hate Americans
     by "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
     11) Re: 7 strings
     by "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
     12) Fw: The woman I love.
     by "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
     13) Re: Why I hate Americans
     by Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com>
     14) Powermad cds
     by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
     15) Re: Help me with my collection!
     by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
     16) Re: Powermad cds
     by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
     17) Re: 7 strings
     by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>

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    Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:16:21 EST
    From: MTeiper@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Another Great (Mostly) DT Mix Tape
    Message-ID: <e0da2e2c.366c9a05@aol.com>

    Hey all -

    ]From time to time, a request pops up for a DT tape track listing. Well, I
    just finished up a pretty sweet mix tape of DT and DT-Related bands. It's
    hard for me to pinpoint the vibe of the tape.... it started out as a mostly
    instrumental tape, but evolved into a tape of songs that really move and
    uplift me. It's hard to explain, but here's the results anyway, in case
    anyone was interested:

    SIDE A

    Funeral For a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding (LIVE)
    Kindred Spirits (LTE)
    Freedom Of Choice (LTE)
    "To Live Forever" Jam (LIVE) ("Live In Tokyo" instrumental jam at end of TLF)
    Trial Of Tears

    SIDE B

    Bombay Vindaloo (LIVE)
    "Take the Time" Jam (LIVE) ("WOWOW" show instrumental jam at end of TTT)
    Hell's Kitchen
    Eve
    State Of Grace (LTE)
    Purple Rain (Instrumental from "Guitar Battle" CD featuring JP)
    O Holy Night (From 1996 DTIFC X-Mas CD)
    Space-Dye Vest

    That's it, folx. It fit perfectly onto a 90 minute tape. Pretty sweet, eh?
    I'm off to check out that Nightwish URL. Thanx for the info, Eckie!

    Laterz.... Matt T.

    NP: M*****ica "Garage, Inc."

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    Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:41 -0800
    From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
    To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Yes you have, dammit
    Message-ID: <199812080322.TAA25567@knight.axnet.net>

         
    >From: Uroborosss@aol.com
    >Subject: David Who?
    >
    >I've never heard David Gilmour. None of my posts...<snip>
         
         Yes you have. Comfortably Numb was on the radio and I mentioned
         that the guitar solo kicked ass. You turned it up. We listened
         to the solo. You made a noise like "Phbbt." Then you put
         some T-Ride on.
         
         Or maybe that was the other Bafu with the bitchin' wheels :)
         
         -TheOtherAuralHand

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    Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:11:42 -0600
    From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfqc@nl1.telmex.net.mx>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Help me with my collection!
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981207211142.007a5cc0@nl1.telmex.net.mx>

    You should check these bands:

    The Quiet Room
    House Of Spirits
    Enchant "Time Lost"
    Timescape
    Threshold

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    Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:35:45 -0600
    From: Shari Lloyd <slloyd@ccm.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: King's X/ Galactic Cowboys tour 1999 (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <199812080331.VAA16178@bowe.ccm.net>

    >Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 10:17:40 -0500
    >From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
    >To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    >Subject: King's X/ Galactic Cowboys tour 1999 (NDTC)
    >Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981206101740.0079d330@mail.erinet.com>
    >
    >
    >For more info (like venue, directions, etc) go to...
    >http://www.dlm.net/gc/tour.html
    >
    >Also, if you have any info on some of these venues, please email me.
    >
    >KING'S X & GALACTIC COWBOYS WORLD TOUR 1999
    >===========================================
    >01/12 Wichita, KS ------------------Heidelberg
    >01/13 Denver, CO------------------Aztian Theatre
    >01/14 Albuquerque, NM----------Midnight Rodeo
    >01/15 Tucson, AZ------------------Rialto Theatre
    >01/16 Yucaipa, CA----------------Crossroad Bar and Grill
    >01/17 Porterville, CA------------Porterville Memorial Auditorium
    >01/18 ---off---
    >01/19 San Diego, CA------------Brick by Brick
    >01/20 Redondo Beach, CA------Club Caprice
    >01/21 Palo Alto, CA-------------The Edge
    >01/22 Ventura, CA--------------Ventura Theater
    >01/23 Orange, CA---------------Boardwalk
    >01/24 ---off---
    >01/25 Vancouver, BC CANADA---Starfish Room
    >01/26 ---off---
    >01/27 Calgary, Alberta CANADA---The Republik
    >01/28 Edmonton, Alberta CANADA--Rev Caberet
    >01/29 ---off---
    >01/30 Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA--Royal Albert Hall
    >01/31 TBA
    >02/01 TBA
    >02/02 TBA
    >02/03 TBA
    >02/04 Columbia, MO------------Blue Note
    >02/05 Columbus, OH -----------Newport Music Hall
    >02/06 Detroit, MI----------------Harpo's
    >02/07 Toronto, Ontario CANADA-----El Mocambo
    >02/08 TBA
    >02/09 Lorain, OH----------------Flying Machine
    >02/10 Pittsburg, PA-------------Graffiti
    >02/11 Philadelphia, PA---------Trocadero Theatre
    >02/12 Hartford, CT--------------Webster Theatre
    >02/13 TBA
    >02/14 Portland, ME-------------Asylum
    >02/15 TBA
    >02/16 Clifton Park, NY---------Northern Lights
    >02/17 New York, NY-------------Life
    >02/18 Manchester, NH----------Chantilly's
    >02/19 Sea Bright, NJ-----------Tradewinds
    >02/20 Springfield, Va----------Jaxx
    >02/21 Riviera Beach, MD-----Daytonas
    >02/22 TBA
    >02/23 TBA
    >02/24 TBA
    >02/25 Ft Lauderdale, FL-------Chilli Pepper
    >02/26 Lake Buena Vista, FL---House Of Blues
    >02/27 TBA
    >02/28 TBA
    >03/01 TBA
    >03/02 Beaumont, TX-----------Pud's Last Resort
    >
    Any chance of the TBA being in Chicago???

    Shari

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    Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:58:02 -0800
    From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: YTSEJAM MAILLISTdeadline for OFFER********
    Message-ID: <199812080500.AAA03872@camel8.mindspring.com>

                    
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    Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:55:45 -0800
    From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS YTSEJAMERS
    Message-ID: <199812080500.AAA19388@camel8.mindspring.com>

            
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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:56:45 -0500 (EST)
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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:36:17 +1100
    From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: 5YIAL, some thoughts...
    Message-ID: <004701be227d$786fc5c0$2b6716cb@graham>

    Hey I finally got a copy of 5YIAL, I still haven't got my copy I ordered
    from CDnow, but that's
    another story altogether :)
    One word, awsome, a great package of various gigs and assorted things
    that leaves you hungry for more :)
    Make you wonder how big the DT video archives are ?
    Huge is my guess...

    Highlights are many, the 2 fan club shows are great and hopefully one day
    we'll get the complete shows.
    I also noticed, the songs from the Japanese PPV, the bass sound is much
    better
    than that video and the 'Mind Control' boot.

    I am very puzzled why the Rotterdam Fan Club show wasn't realsed as the live
    album ?
    Still we always have the next best thing.........

    GaZ

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 03:18:52 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: DT promos for sale
    Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3817@ms.kallback.com>

    1. Pull Me Under-PRCD 4724-2-
        1.Edit (5:54)
        2. LP Version (8:11)
        burning heart cover, red M symbol on disc
    2. Caught in a Web-PRCD 5965-2
        1.Edit (4:09)
        2. Album Version (5:28)
        tarantula cover, band photo disc
    3. Lie-PRCD 5807-2-NOT THE LIE SINGLE!
       1. Lie(5:02)
         clock/eye cover, purple disc, sealed digipak

    $8 or best offer
    $2 shipping US for one or all, actual shipping rest of world
    thanks

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:35:17 -0000
    From: "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Why I hate Americans
    Message-ID: <00a401be2280$68534b00$6bb533d1@i9web>

    >Even meeting the guys in person!=20

    A while back, Portnoy and Petrucci toured Europe doing clinics together.
    They do US tours equally infrequent =)

    -jim

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:31:48 -0000
    From: "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: 7 strings
    Message-ID: <00a301be2280$67684ec0$6bb533d1@i9web>

    >And another question: why is it that people always argue that JP uses a 7
    >string in a song or not? Is it much harder to play?

    It creates a much heavier sound for the guitar part. Just listen to
    awake... The tracks that are on a 7 string are noticably harder sounding...

    Take a listen and see if you can figure out which ones are which...

    As a matter of fact, JP even stated that he wanted to try a harder sound for
    Awake... And there it was =)

    -jim

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:00:13 -0000
    From: "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
    To: "Mike Kralik" <mkralik@ic.sunysb.edu>, "Marco Petrini" <mpetrini@tin.it>,
    Subject: Fw: The woman I love.
    Message-ID: <00b401be2280$da489260$6bb533d1@i9web>

    -----Original Message-----
    ]From: Computer Jim DTFOTL <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
    To:
    Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 7:54 AM
    Subject: The woman I love.

    >I don't know about 98% of you, but to me that does not matter. I'm writing
    >you all to tell you about the woman I love.
    >
    >Her name is Joanne Carol Raffaele, and I want to spend the rest of my life
    >with her. Not a day goes by where she does not dominate my thoughts.
    >
    >Shes my motivation, my inspiration, my source of reservation, and the spark
    >of my desire.
    >
    >If there is one wish I can wish upon you all, it would be for you all to
    >find a love as strong as I have found within her.
    >
    >I hope she isn't angry at me for writing this, but I just want everybody to
    >know.
    >
    >Her shining visage forever will hold a place in my heart. Just when I
    >thought I found good enough, she showed me even better.
    >
    >If any of you have reason to believe that we should not be together, please
    >email me back, and tell me why. Thank you.
    >
    >
    >
    > .xX[ COMPUTER JIM ]Xx.
    > .xX[ jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net ]Xx.
    > .xX[ President - i9 Strategic Business Solutions, inc. ]Xx.
    > .xX[ Managing Director - vivid paranoia music ]Xx.
    >
    >

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    Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:09:32 +0100
    From: Thomas <Thomas.Nojd@ericsson.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: Why I hate Americans
    Message-ID: <366D412C.6DE189F@ericsson.com>

    In Jam #4483, Jan Opsal <janopsal@online.no>=20
    =20
    > AAAAAAARRRGGGG!!!

    <snip>

    > "Patiently" waiting for his copies of:
    > Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment
    > Platypus - When Pus Comes To Shove
    > Explorers Club - Age of Impact
    > Dream Theater - 5 Years in a Lifetime
    >=20

    Nice order you got waiting for you. I'm just waiting for the 5YIAL video =
    to=20
    come to me... been waiting for a month now :=B4-(
    Seems to be a Nordic problem. Don't blame the Yanks.

    /Thomas
    ________________________________________________________________________

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

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    Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:33:03 -0500
    From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
    To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Powermad cds
    Message-ID: <366D46AF.4913D11F@trw.com>

    Yes, my 3 disc Powermad set did come in yesterday as well... Lets see
    the show was in August and the cds took until now....

    Also when I open it up all the discs fell out as all the centers are
    busted. Should I send it back? Heh...

    Definitely a lot of tracks on this from bands such as:
    Kenziner, Winter's Bane, Steel Prophet, Kamelot, Without Warning,
    Mystic Force, Twilight Kingdom, Beyond Reality, Cage, Iced Earth,
    Ion Vein, Mastermind, Reading Zero, Sacred Oath

    Chastain, Ice Age, Digital Ruin, Noctunal Rites, Syris, Death & Taxes,
    Joe Stump, Division, Fiarro, Core Device, thorne, Project Synergy

    Soundscape, Aztec Jade, Delusion, Midevil, Industrial Eden, Forseen,
    Nightmare's End, Opposite Earth, Mindcage, Reignstorm, Talamasca,
    Circle of Nero, Bother, Mystic-Force (more self promotion of Keith's
    band....)

    NP:Powermad 1998 sampler...

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    |               Web  : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html |
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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:43:16 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Help me with my collection! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9812081640520.7459-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>

    On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Jon Kretschmer wrote:

    > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to puruse my likes and > dislikes and offer suggestions for me as to where to look for the next

    [...]

    > Angra*

    [...]

    > Symphony X*

    [...]

    You like Angra? You like Symphony X? Get Rhapsody's 'Legendary Tales' or 'Symphony of Enchanted Lands' and be blown away...

    Cheers

    Zaphod

    ============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:53:51 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Powermad cds Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981208105253.27203A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>

    > Yes, my 3 disc Powermad set did come in yesterday as well... Lets see > the show was in August and the cds took until now.... > > Also when I open it up all the discs fell out as all the centers are > busted. Should I send it back? Heh...

    jeez, you guys complain a lot for something that as i understand was free... if i'm wrong then oh well, flame away or whatever. moo.

    *** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

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    Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:54:44 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: 7 strings Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9812081651180.7459-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>

    On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Computer Jim DTFOTL wrote:

    > It creates a much heavier sound for the guitar part. Just listen to > awake... The tracks that are on a 7 string are noticably harder sounding...

    This has nothing to do with the two quoted lines above, except that it's also about 7-strings. Awhile ago - i can't remember if it was on the Jam - somebody said that he/she thought that there are really few people/bands who use a 7-string creatively. Most of the time, according to that person, the 7-string is only used to sound heavier, but for solo's and bizarre chords and all, that seventh string is almost always left unused...

    That just crossed my mind...

    Anyone else have opinions on this?

    Cheers

    Zaphod

    ============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================

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