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    Today's Topics:

      1) Finding decent MP3s
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekppg04@bni.co.id>
      2) Re: Help me with my collection!
     by "Jarno Tuomainen" <jarno_tuomainen@hotmail.com>
      3) abcnews.com
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      4) Re: Korg. The other white meat.
     by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
      5) YTSEJAM MAILLISTdeadline for OFFER********
     by Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com>
      6)
     by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
      7) Re: Knebworth
     by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
      8) Re: Finding decent MP3s
     by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
      9) powermad cds/marillion/5yial
     by Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com>
     10) Re: Birch Hill DT Show
     by Lobotomy1@aol.com
     11) Re: Vanden Plas (NDTC)
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
     12) Van den Plaaaaaas
     by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
     13) SWM seeks compatible amp
     by "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu>
     14) free? (Powermad)
     by MusicSnob@aol.com
     15) RE: The Woman I Love
     by Rocky Pulley <rpulley@pcdata.com>
     16) Re: Music in Star Wars Epi. I (regrettably NDTC)
     by MaxArbot@aol.com
     17) Re: free? (Powermad)
     by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
     18) Re: Music in Star Wars Epi. I (NDTC) Correction and Link
     by MaxArbot@aol.com
     19) Pink Floyd cover tune/PANTERA
     by Hypermax <hypermax@win.bright.net>

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:29:08 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekppg04@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Finding decent MP3s
    Message-ID: <001401be235e$c48c9c80$0cca17ac@Sigit.bni.intranet>

    Fellow jammers,
    I'm from Indonesia and it's very hard to get prog stuff here, other than DT,
    SG, and some others. My only hope lies in MP3 ... can you please advise me
    good sites for finding these ??
    Thanks.

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 04:05:36 PST
    From: "Jarno Tuomainen" <jarno_tuomainen@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: Help me with my collection!
    Message-ID: <19981209120536.9808.qmail@hotmail.com>

    The following are definitely worth checking:

    -Friedman, Marty: Dragons's Kiss; very similar to Becker's Perpetual
    Burn
    -Genesis: Earlier work; Selling England by the Pound, Lamb Lies Down on
    Broadway, Archives Vol. 1
    -Liquid Tension Experiment: the obvious choice, don't know if this
    slipped your mind when making the list
    -Rhapsody; even though sort of like Stratovarius, much more proggish

    and finally, as you seem to have pretty wide musical taste, you might
    even want to check out some of Frank Zappa's work, guaranteed to be
    nothing you've ever heard before; a good starting point might be
    'Strictly Commercial (Best of)'; it has a selection of songs which
    were/are most popular to the public (most radio airplay etc.) Other
    album most widely accepted as good Zappa records: Joe's Carage Acts
    1,2,3, Hot Rats, Sheik Yerbouti. The guy made dozens of records, so it's
    hard to know what you would like best. Just don't

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:54:55 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: abcnews.com
    Message-ID: <366E48EF.FB047B0@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 02:07:15 -0500
    > From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
    > Subject: FII Review
    >
    > I usually check abcnews.com before I got to bed
    > everynight to check the news

    COOL! ;)

    -- 
    

    CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:49:17 -0500 From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Korg. The other white meat. Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A62447A13EA@mail.rtp.gtegsc.com>

    Korg3 wrote:

    >And for hell's sake, don't stalk her. If you DO ever get fed up with her, a >bucket of cold water, a rubber band and a razor blade can solve alot of >problems. Imagination not included. But then, all this sarcasm and >anti-love sentiment just isn't my style... Let me give a good reason to >stay with someone you love: Wilma Flintstone sodomizing a mastadon.

    >KorgX3 is best served with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

    I thought warm water was better?

    Jim

    "What reward is a banquet of red wine and bread, when you hunger for life but on death you are fed?" - M. Walkyer - The Best of Enemies (Wulf's Tale)

    Jim Suplizio

    jim.suplizio@gsc.gte.com 919-549-7927

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 08:50:14 -0800 From: Vaiman <vaiman@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: YTSEJAM MAILLISTdeadline for OFFER******** Message-ID: <199812091351.IAA04473@dewdrop2.mindspring.com>

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:59:04 -0500 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Message-ID: <v01540b01b293ea7ce266@[128.197.9.38]>

    >Hey guys, does anyone know thru where I would get my tix for the Birch Hell >DT show? I looked at the Ticketbastard page and the concert is not >listed... I also tried calling Birch Hill, but they put me on hold for a >while and I didn't feel like paying that much for long-distance hold... > >Do I have to get the tickets through Birch Hill or what? If so, would it >be a problem that I am in Virginia until the 18/19th of December? > >Any answers/advice appreciated!! >Alex Ticketmaster is selling the tickets. For some reason, you can't get them online. I got mine at an outlet (Tower Records) in Boston, so you can probably get them at a Ticketmaster outlet in Virginia. Try one of those.

    >>PS - Did you know that Steve Smith of Journey fame - who is >>great - recorded his drums in the men's room for the acoustics ?? >>Does anyone else do that (other than George Michael, hehehehe) >>?? > >Nuno Bettencourt recorded his rhythm tracks for "Pornograffiti" in >the studio bathroom. I think EVH did some tracks in the Throne >Room at one point, as well. Most likely, there are others, but >they're the only two that I can think of at this time. > >And I'm sick of the ads too. > >-Nick Perhaps I shouldn't mention this, but for the sessions to Kiss's _Rock and Roll Over_, Peter Criss's drums were in the restroom (at the Star Theater in Nanuet, NY where that album was recorded).

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:30:14 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: "Ytse 'The Jam' Ventura" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Knebworth Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.981209091430.27701A-100000@gs.bass.org>

    The Duke of Cyberdom frantically ran to his peers and queried while flapping his arms like a bird in flight: >Is there an audio release of these Knebworth festivals?

    Dude, you have it on video? You could dub a cassette from that! But, yes, I must say that I have a 2CD of highlights from that show: Knebworth 1990. The CD also includes performances from Status Quo, Tears for Fears, Cliff Richard, the Floyd, and Phil Collins solo. It was released on Mercury/Polydor in the states. I found it many moons ago in the bargain bins for $5.99. I would like to know how track listings on video may differ from what I have. On that Genesis medley, Phil does his best Dan Aykroyd impression from the Blues Brothers, failing miserably, but when they actually get into the songs, they groove. On the boot The Lamb Woke Up Again, Peter Gabriel, with Steve Hackett, did a version of I'll Be There that invoked the spirit of Motown.

    P

    NP Spock's Beard: The Kindness of Strangers Coming up next--Toto: XX

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's musical quote for the Month:

    Make no mistake/ You shan't escape/ Tethered and tied/ There's nowhere to hide from me/ All Mine !!

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Finding decent MP3s Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981209094434.22469A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>

    > From: Sigit Prabowo <tekppg04@bni.co.id> > Subject: Finding decent MP3s > > Fellow jammers, > I'm from Indonesia and it's very hard to get prog stuff here, other than DT,

    uh oh, looks like Dick has some competition. hahaha, can't write "The Indonesian Jammer" anymore, can you, Dick? Hahaha, i knew your time would come.

    Now they'll start putting stuff like "Dick, the FIRST Indonesian Jammer" or "Sigit, the BEST Indonesian Jammer". It'll be as big as Bahr Wars. And conveniently replacing them, now that Bahr Wars are no more. Moo.

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:01:18 -0500 From: Pat Daugherty <Pat.Daugherty@trw.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: powermad cds/marillion/5yial Message-ID: <366E90BE.6B39553B@trw.com>

    > From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> > > Yes, my 3 disc Powermad set did come in yesterday as well... Lets see > > the show was in August and the cds took until now.... > > > > Also when I open it up all the discs fell out as all the centers are > > busted. Should I send it back? Heh... > > jeez, you guys complain a lot for something that as i understand was > free... if i'm wrong then oh well, flame away or whatever. moo.

    no they aren't "free". If you read the web page and the form to get a ticket, it says if you get a 3 day pass you will get a promotional pack with free stuff. The cd is the promotional pack. Also during the event you could pay less to get in and get no cd. The reason we complain was Keith was saying the cds might come in anytime(this during the event in August). Here it is December and we finally get them... Also if you have ever been to a Powermad, you know how completely unorganized they are...

    I've been watching the 5yial video and after the Marillion song, I was wondering what is so great about them? I wasn't impressed by the song at all? It may be just me but I'd like to find out what Marillion fans see in the band.

    Also what is the name of the second fan club song on the video. The first is Cover My Eyes, but what's the second song?

    NP:Powermad 1998 sampler -- |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | |----------------------------------------------------------------|

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:43:31 EST From: Lobotomy1@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Birch Hill DT Show Message-ID: <303ab5f5.366e9aa3@aol.com>

    In refrence to your problem with getting tickets to the BH show:

    > I looked at the Ticketbastard page and the concert is not >listed...

    Well, that's "Ticketbastard" for ya. If you look around the TM page, you'll find a phone number (I think its an area code (201) number..?) that you can call and get tickets that way..it takes about 10 days to get them through US mail, but you can always get them "Will Call" at the club...the only downside to that is you don't get a stub to hang on to, but at least you don't have to pay any shipping/handling fees to get them in less than 10 days. So, there you have it.

    Chris Schuler University of New Haven c/o '02 VP - UNH Band Music and Sound Recording Major

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:50:24 -0800 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Vanden Plas (NDTC) Message-ID: <366E9C40.7B92F48F@pacbell.net>

    O wrote: > > Hello, all. > > Yesterday I downloaded two Vanden Plas songs from http://www.dreamt.org/jessie/mp3.htm (thanks, whoever made this). I believe they are from "The God Thing". The quality sucks, but the songs are really nice.

    Oh okay FINE! :oP

    I'll make some higher quality mp3s tonight and put them up. If Skadz kills me for hogging his webspace, it's your fault. ;o)

    >Now, I would like to know more about them. I can't find any Vanden Plas site, so I have my high hopes on you... :-)

    Try here: THE WEB THING http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/

    -- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://www.dreamt.org/jessie _______________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:50:41 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Van den Plaaaaaas Message-ID: <199812091550.KAA21672@maila.wm.edu>

    <html> &gt;Yesterday I downloaded two Vanden Plas songs from &gt;<a href="http://www.dreamt.org/jessie/mp3.htm" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.dreamt.org/jessie/mp3.htm></font></u><font color="#000000"> (thanks, whoever made this). I &gt;believe they are from &quot;The God Thing&quot;. The quality sucks, but the &gt;songs are really nice. Now, I would like to know more about them. I &gt;can't find any Vanden Plas site, so I have my high hopes on you... :-)<br> <br> Hey O,<br> <br> <a href="http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/main.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/main.htm><br> <br> That there is the Vanden Plas website address.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; It's a pretty cool place too, they have lots of stuff, INCLUDING some songs to download, and the quality is good, of all things!&nbsp; Otherwise, if you're on ICQ, I can just send you two mp3s, You Fly and The Rainmaker...&nbsp; kickass band, in case you care, great songs, and I have to hunt down an internet place that'll sell me a copy of the album.&nbsp; I have heard the entire thing, and it rocks.&nbsp; Laser's Edge, here I come...<br> <br> Alex</font> <BR> </html>

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:11:13 -0600 From: "Joe Bissonnette" <Bissonnette@cdr.wisc.edu> To: GuitarJam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: SWM seeks compatible amp Message-ID: <862566D5.00551045.00@domino.cdr.wisc.edu>

    Wanna-be Shreddi Knight is looking to finally ditch the shitty crate amp and get something decent. Desires great clean tone and the sceaming metal tone of the gods (JP). The rest is not so vital. It will be used primarily for home/recording use, but may be used live occasionally. Price cap: around $700. Any suggestions?

    So far I've been told the Tech 21 Trademark 60 and Line 6 Flextone Duo may fit the bill. Anyone used either of those? Any comments?

    Thanks much, Biz

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:16:26 EST From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: free? (Powermad) Message-ID: <61ef0ff8.366ea25a@aol.com>

    El Rey de las Vacas said something about us complaining a lot for something that was free (ie: the Powermad compilation). Whether or not it was free is totally debatable, and depends entirely on your perspective. The entry price for the Powermad festival was, let's say, 30 bucks. *Included* in this price was the promised 3cd sampler. It was a reasonable expectation that each concert-goer would receive said sampler while at the festival. Would we have paid the 30 bucks *without* the promise of the cds? Of course. So you *could* argue that the cds were free, in a sense. But. The principle of the matter is that we (Powermad "customers") did not receive something we paid for until waaaaay after the fact. Menser apologists will argue that the cds were free, therefore shut the hell up. People like me (and every other person on the jam of whom I know) will say that we paid for it, where is it. It's all perspective. I seriously doubt anyone would not have purchased a plane ticket/got in his car and drove if there weren't a 3cd comp promised for his 30 bucks, but again, it returns to the principle of the matter.

    Kevin Madden

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:50:08 -0500 From: Rocky Pulley <rpulley@pcdata.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: RE: The Woman I Love Message-ID: <C1FC52D409C4D111966600609794073C226EF7@pc10.pcdata.com>

    Joanne Carol Raffaele??? I had her...

    heh, j/k, don't flame me or anything.

    =========================================== Rocky Dean Pulley rpulley@pcdata.com PC Data, Inc. (703) 435-1025 x133

    "You can feel the waves coming on, Let them destroy you, or carry you on." ===========================================

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:10:26 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Music in Star Wars Epi. I (regrettably NDTC) Message-ID: <8ddad0aa.366eaf02@aol.com>

    In a message dated 12/9/98 8:34:48 AM Central Standard Time, Darth1@aol.com writes:

    << It IS B.S. John Williams is doing the whole score and soundtrack as he has always done. There may be some kind of wierd space-pop song like "Lapti-Nek" (Jabba's band from Return of the Jedi), or "Jedi Rocks", but there is no official word on anything like this yet for Episode I... >>

    I read in Esquire (I think) that Vanilla Ice is supposed to be on the new Star Wars...please say it isn't so.

    [eriC]

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: free? (Powermad) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.981209120554.6006A-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>

    > El Rey de las Vacas said something about us complaining a lot for something

    Ehem, that's "The King of Cows." Is it too much to ask that you address me like the deity i am? :)

    > that was free (ie: the Powermad compilation). Whether or not it was free is > totally debatable, and depends entirely on your perspective. The entry price

    i'm not saying "shut the hell up, it was free." i'm cool with complaining a bit, for the reasons you mentioned. My point was that i've heard a whole LOT of complaining - it seems someone brings up the powermad CDs or lack thereof on an at least biweekly basis, and i was just commenting that for somethign that was technically free, that's a lot of complaining. if you paid for something and never got it (hah, you thought i'd mention his name, didn't you?) then i understand (although it doesn't make the complaining any more pleasurable for everyone else), but if you don't get somethign that was free, i think you should mention it maybe, to make people aware of the problem, but not keep doing it.

    but now that i thin of it that wasn't even what i was referring to - it was just the fact that even AFTER getting it, <i forget who it was> complained once more about how long it took, and then about the little things being broken. it's like jeez, what does it take to make you feel you're getting your money's worth with a free cd? get me? word. moo.

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    Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:35:12 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: Ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Music in Star Wars Epi. I (NDTC) Correction and Link Message-ID: <3902129e.366eb4d0@aol.com>

    Okay, so it wasn't Esquire, but Yahoo! Internet Life (the one with Tom Hanks on the cover). I'm not sure what the deal is, but there is a web site that tells all about it.

    <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7028/swosg.htm"> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7028/swosg.htm>

    [eriC]

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    Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 12:01:37 -0600 From: Hypermax <hypermax@win.bright.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Pink Floyd cover tune/PANTERA Message-ID: <366EBB01.65E2@win.bright.net>

    Hey jammers,

    I was cruising around the other day and I heard a new version of Floyd's "Another Brick In The Wall pt II" done by a band called, "The Class of 99", it consists of Tom Morello of RATM, Layne Staley of AIC (yea!!!), Stephen Perkins of Janes Addiction (I think) and someone else whom I can't remember right now, but anyways, this new version of the song can be heard on the soundtrack for the upcoming movie, "The Faculty". It has an extreme groove to it. I think it kicks ass, of course you'll have to hear it for yourself :oP Btw, I heard a "new" PANTERA song on the radio a few nights ago to, it was called "Hole In The Sky", this didn't sound like a song they had written, but rather a cover song, anyone know of a band that plays that song? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! cya!

    Hypermax

    -- "Pulling and punching the rest of duration, no one can piss on this determination"

    My shithole in the web: http://members.tripod.com/~Hypermax/index.html

    A Tout Le Monde A Tout Mes Amis Je Vous Aime Je Dois Partir

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