YTSEJAM Digest 4490
Today's Topics:
1) RE: The Woman I Love
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Korg. The other white meat.
by James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
3) Neil Armstrong story...LOL
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
4) RE: The Woman I Love
by James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
5) uh... organ.
by Chris Oates <coates@objectivity.com>
6) Re: The Woman I love
by James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
7) Re: Fw: The woman I love.
by ROn5574@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4489
by VonHeadski@aol.com
9) Sundries...
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
10) Allow me to rave, please.
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
11) Laser Edge?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
12) Re: FII Review
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
13) www.800.com & cdnow discounts
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
14) By Ear
by Uroborosss@aol.com
15) David Gilmour Madness!
by Uroborosss@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4488
by Uroborosss@aol.com
17) Mike Portnoy website....
by "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
18) Live Concerts.com
by INNSOUL@aol.com
19) Re: Live Concerts.com
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4487
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:18:23 +1100 (EST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: RE: The Woman I Love
Message-ID: <19981209221823.26708.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
Rocky Pulley <rpulley@pcdata.com> was blowing his own horn and revealed:
> Joanne Carol Raffaele???
> I had her...
Ah yes, I remember it well. Many had her that night. Luckily it was
captured on video. I will soon be releasing a compilation of that and
many other infamous scenes. Included in this exclusive, ytse-offer:
- Rocky, Joanne and Bullwinkle
- Derek and Terry and Pat (Who's the hootenanny?)
- Pamela and Tommy outakes
- Richard and Cindy (and special guest Freddie the gerbil)
- Mr. Korg Eckthrey and Dolly the clone
- And of course, Charlie's home video footage of early DT groupie
encounters (who's really the exagerator?!)
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:14:23 -0500 (EST)
From: James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Korg. The other white meat.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981209201336.22395L-100000@typhoon.lightning.net>
Just for your information, we're getting married. And guess what? She
completely loved the idea of that email.All well... I guess Mr. synical
(sp) doesn't get to have his final bow.
-Jim
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Date: 09 Dec 1998 21:09:43 +0100
From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <Jason.Breitweg@desy.de>
To: blind-guardian@onelist.com, ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Neil Armstrong story...LOL
Message-ID: <ubg1ap84c8.fsf@breitweg-rem.desy.de>
Thought you guys might find this funny if you haven't seen it
before...
Neil Armstrong
When Apollo Mission Astronaut Neil Armstrong first walked on the moon,
he not only gave his famous "One small step for man, one giant leap
for mankind" statement but followed it by several remarks, usual com
traffic between him, the other astronauts and Mission Control.
Just before he re-entered the lander, however, he made the enigmatic
remark "Good luck Mr. Gorsky." Many people at NASA thought it was a
casual remark concerning some rival Soviet Cosmonaut. However, upon
checking, there was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space
programs. Over the years many people questioned Armstrong as to what
the "Good luck Mr. Gorsky" statement meant, but Armstrong always just
smiled.
Just a few years ago, (on July 5, 1995 in Tampa Bay FL) while
answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26
year old question to Armstrong. This time he finally responded. Mr.
Gorsky had finally died and so Neil Armstrong felt he could answer the
question. When he was a kid, he was playing baseball with a friend in
the backyard. His friend hit a fly ball which landed in the front of
his neighbor's bedroom windows. His neighbors were Mr. & Mrs. Gorsky.
As he leaned down to pick up the ball, jung Armstrong heard Mrs.
Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky. "Oral sex! You want oral sex?! You'll
get oral sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!"
NOTE: This is a confirmed true story.
Jason
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:21:46 -0500 (EST) From: James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: The Woman I Love Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981209202125.22395R-100000@typhoon.lightning.net>
> Joanne Carol Raffaele??? > I had her...
Woops I left the 'e' out =) Its Carole... So it must be someone different. =)
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:17:49 -0800 From: Chris Oates <coates@objectivity.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: uh... organ. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981209171748.00b14330@objypop>
Someone named "Darth" said:
>This is the only "good" part of the review! I laughed my ass off! "Sexy >groove"??; "ORGAN PART"?? BWUAHAHAHAHAHA! And what's a "chugging" bass line? >This guy obviously doesn't know anything about complex music or modern musical >instruments (ie. refering to keys as an "organ").
Hey, Mr. Dark Lord of the Sith. That _IS_ an organ at the beginning of BMS.
~Chris (sorry, posting from work. Bad me)
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:24:09 -0500 (EST) From: James Pepe <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: The Woman I love Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981209202255.22395S-100000@typhoon.lightning.net>
> IS beautiful when found... Make sure she feels the same way about you though > before you get to obsessed...
WEIRD... I find it kind of interesting that just about everyone in this everyone on this list turns everything into insta-obssession. Craziness...
SIdenote: WE're actually engaged to be married and have been since November 11, 1998...
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:00:02 EST From: ROn5574@aol.com To: Nej311@aol.com, vulpine21@yahoo.com, jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net, Subject: Re: Fw: The woman I love. Message-ID: <59c5db1a.366f2b22@aol.com>
yeah dude your just a little screwed up, is this your first time? Must be, dont worry you'll be finished in about 35 seconds. Go get her little bear
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:38:48 EST From: VonHeadski@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4489 Message-ID: <61f15f22.366f3438@aol.com>
take me off of this fucking thing, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:32:27 -0500 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Sundries... Message-ID: <19981210034706.CXPB8340@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello, Mark said: >As far as other movie composers go, Hans Zimmer
I second this notion. I loved Zimmer's work on True Romance especially. I used to add that main xylophone (or is it steel drums?) theme on all my mix tapes until a friend "borrowed" the soundtrack.
>From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar> >To: "ytsejam mail list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> >Subject: Top 5 Albums of 1998
For God's sake does anyone actually READ anymore. DO NOT SEND YOUR TOP 5 TO THE JAM. Send it directly to the poll-taker, who I think was Neil... And who the hell keeps sending their DT sticker ad to the Jam. That one is really getting on my nerves. For those of us who get digests, its annoying to see that in EVERY jam. Probably just as annoying as seeing my posts...
Stodgers
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:03:31 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Allow me to rave, please. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.981209195431.19365A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Greetings, Today, I received Angra's Holy Land and Helstar's Nosferatu in the mail from Empire Entertainment, who are very friendly, I might add. I'll start by saying I was not very impressed by Helstar. This type of metal has been run into the ground and with much better singers. Yes the guitars are nice, but what else is there? Also, it's my opinion that, if you have a CD called Nosferatu, it should be very dark and bruding, somewhat like it's namesake suggests. However, this albom is simply straight-ahead neoclassical metal. OK, now for the fun part! I had been lusting after Angra after hearing so much about it. The only cut I had heard, though, was Holy Land, and, frankly, I wasn't sure I liked the vocals. Well, let me just say I changed my tune completely. This is perhaps the third or fourth prog albom I've heard this year that has knocked me on my freeking ass! The orchestrations are brilliant. The precussion is neato! The guitar is both tasteful and technical! The vocals are passionate and fun. And who ever realized that so much metal could be written in major keys and sound so meaningful? I kid you not, I think I could go to an Angra concert and dance my ass off with a huge smile on my face. With bands like DT, I'd be head-banging and wanting to throw my fellow moshers around (sorry Carol.) On first listen, I am hugely pleased with angra. I now look forward to receiving Symphany X's Devine Wings (fuck yeah!), The Changelings s/t, Eric Johnson's Electromagnets, and the new one from Power of Omens. Shit, man, I'm spending way too much money for a guy that has to pay off a soon to be ariving new half-stack, but I'm also hearing fresh, new, experimental, and fucking AWESOME music. Oh, and if anyone would like a once-played Helstar CD, $6 will get it for you. Let me know. Just wanted to share. Be well. Matt B
============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla?... With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?" (Daniel Quin)
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:35:12 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Laser Edge? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9812100231240.1842-100000@jaca>
Hi there, people.
Well, have you ever purchased anything from Laser Edge? Are they reliable? They have one album listed that I'd love to get, Solaris's "Marsbeli Kronikak", but I don't know the reputation of this place, so I thought I'd ask your opinions.
BTW, if you have any comments on this album, please let me know. I'm buying it based only on some small snippets from the 'net, so anything else about them is quite welcome.
If it helps, I like Camel, Renaissance, Grandbell, Quaterna Requiem.
Thank you very much, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:03:01 -0600 (CST) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: FII Review Message-ID: <1998129234912426962@ix.netcom.com>
<< I usually check abcnews.com before I got to bed everynight to check the news so I don't feel removed from the world. I went to their music section and did a search for Dream Theater and I came up with an AWFUL review of FII. It really pissed me off, actually! Check it out:>>
Pay no attention to reviews like these, they only show the reviewers lack to comprehend the deeper meanings behind DT's lyrics (which seemed to be the main focus of the article). I bet the same guy gave Puff Daddy a "10" :-P
Matt
===================================================== "A daily dose of eMpTyV "Following our instinct will flush your mind not a trend. Go against right down the drain." the grain until the end." -Dream Theater -Metallica =====================================================
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:29:46 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>, Subject: www.800.com & cdnow discounts Message-ID: <366F5C4A.33AE281B@goodnet.com>
Incase you haven't tried it yet, go to http://www.800.com You can order 3 CDs from a select list for only $1 total. I got Rush "Different Stages", U2 "Best of" and REM "Up"... not a bad deal for $1!
Plus you can get $5 off any order of $9.99 at CDNOW by following the link: http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-183074
Happy shopping.... -- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Come join the discussions in the new online Bulletin Board! <<<
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:34:04 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: By Ear Message-ID: <51e5affe.366f5d4c@aol.com>
Chris "sorbet is TRASH!" Ptacek wrote:
> How can you tell for sure if a song is 7 string or not? You can't do it by ear.
Darth Vader sez "I find your lack of faith disturbing."
It's very difficult to tell by ear, but not impossible. There are decipherable pieces of music out there where one can tell if a player is using 6- or 7-string by paying close attention to how things sound instead of just focusing on what notes are lower than the low E. A low C or B doesn't automatically make the guitar a 7-string, as Chris pointed out. BUT...
Take John Petrucci for example. JP has a habit of letting the high B and E strings ring throughout his chords, be they major or minor. If JP hits low power chords for part of a song (we're talking C and B stuff) and suddenly does his old standby for coloring chords - the high E and B ringing over anything - I can tell it's a 7-string. Now of course it's possible that JP decided to use a locked-tremolo guitar and only tuned down the bottom three strings and left the top three as normal. That would create low power chords AND the ability to ring the high E and B, eliminating the D or G string altogether. But since I know he's a floating-trem player, and because that sort of screwy tuning would drive him insane because springs don't listen no matter how hard you smack them, it's very easy to tell if he's playing a 6- or 7-string.
There are lots of players, such as Kirk Hammett and Yngwie Malmsteen, who MUST hit the 22nd fret of the high E string and bend it up a whole step for the end of a solo. They do it just about all the time. If they had a 24-fret guitar they'd probably go into shock at the thought of hitting a super-high D and give up music and become Buddhist monks. Anyway, anytime I hear both a low B power chord (or anything way down there) and someone pulling the high E-string up to that singing super-high E (which is as recognizeable to me as a G-chord because I hear them so often), I know it's a 7-string. In the case of Carcass, who choose to go all over the lower register, but wouldn't be caught dead hitting a high vibrato note that sounded nice or happy, there is no way to tell. It's possible Carcass tears off the usual strings and re-tunes their guitars to low B, low B, low E, low E, A, A. (I don't advise anyone try this with a floating-trem guitar, especially not a BC Rich Virgin, because you will go insane and have to become a monk. Or move in with Eckie.)
As far as de-tunings go, Extreme tuned everything down a half-step, and I agree with Nuno that it's a slightly chunkier sound. When Nuno would hit the top two strings they'd be Eb and Bb instead of E and B, and I could tell they were open strings and not a guitar tuned to E with the guitarist fretting Eb and Bb. There's a noticeable difference in sound between open A and D strings making that luscious power chord and someone playing the fifth fret of the E and A strings to mimic that chord. In the case of Extreme I could tell before reading any tablatures that the band was de-tuning by a half-step because the ringing open notes were too "open" and sustained to be fretted. I think it's possible to determine whether someone is playing 7-string or not, but only if they have resounding open strings or techniques up in the higher pitches.
Basically what I'm saying is, there are ways to tell with your ears whether a person is using a 6-string or 7-string guitar. But only if the Force is strong within you.
BV
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:52:01 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: David Gilmour Madness! Message-ID: <2ac06cc1.366f6181@aol.com>
> From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> > Subject: Yes you have, dammit > > Yes you have. Comfortably Numb was on the radio and I mentioned > that the guitar solo kicked ass. You turned it up. We listened to > the solo. You made a noise like "Phbbt." Then you put some T-Ride on. > > Or maybe that was the other Bafu with the bitchin' wheels :)
What is "Comfortably Numb?" What band does that song, what band does Gilmour play for, or what band did he play for, or how long has he been a solo guitarist? Are you talking about the trip to see Queensryche at The Gorge? Saying that such a moment counts for "hearing David Gilmour" is about as sensible as me saying "I'm a Rush fan, because you know I kind of dig that one song 'Half The World.' " :)
(well, okay, so that "stick it out" tune ain't bad either...)
And as for "Phbbt," I make that noise when I listen to Steve Vai, too. :) It can mean "I'm sick of this Cardigans love-me-love-me crap!" or "why do I listen to things that only upset me because I cannot accomplish them?" or "does this guy really think he's another Yngwie Malmsteen?" or in this case "I don't know what Rahul was thinking, but whatever this is, it sure ain't up my alley...time for some ZOMBIES FROM HEEELLLLL!!!!" It's usually combined with head-shaking and eye-closing, sort of like that "phbbhphbhbph" noise horses make sometimes...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:05:21 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4488 Message-ID: <55ccf18b.366f64a1@aol.com>
> From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekppg04@bni.co.id> > Subject: Finding decent MP3s > > Fellow jammers, > I'm from Indonesia and it's very hard to get prog stuff here, other than DT, > SG, and some others. My only hope lies in MP3 ... can you please advise me > good sites for finding these ?? > Thanks.
Yesterday I listened to some mp3s of Nightwish. Cool stuff, I suggest you give them a listen. They're from Finland, website address is www.nightwish.com. I think they have some mp3 samples and some .wav samples, but the mp3s are much clearer and louder.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:22:25 -0000 From: "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <jpepe@typhoon.lightning.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Mike Portnoy website.... Message-ID: <00b601be23e3$ee236d00$70b533d1@i9web>
Hey all! I'm working on a Mike Portnoy website...
There's a mailing list set up now... If you'd like to be part of it, headover to www.egroups.com for the group name mikeportnoy....
Or you can write to mikeportnoy-subscribe@egroups.com
If you need help with anything you can mail me directly.
Best, Jim Pepe
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:35:16 EST From: INNSOUL@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Live Concerts.com Message-ID: <6d915b8e.366f79b4@aol.com>
A Dream Theater show is being broadcast Dec. 21st on Liveconcerts.com. Does anybody know how this can be recorded onto my hard drive?
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:50:51 +1100 From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Live Concerts.com Message-ID: <007201be2411$cfae4060$386716cb@graham>
>A Dream Theater show is being broadcast Dec. 21st on Liveconcerts.com. Does >anybody know how this can be recorded onto my hard drive?
Ask Mike Bahr, he recorded a DT show and pressed a bootleg from it.
GaZ
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 03:39:26 EST From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4487 Message-ID: <8c71639e.366f88be@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-12-09 08:07:04 EST, you write:
<< On a totally irrelevant note, has anyone noticed the plethora of interesting Behind The Music specials on VH1 lately? >>
Wait till this Sunday, when VH-1 premires the Motley Crue "Behind The Music." You wanna talk about a story to tell!
Richie
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