YTSEJAM Digest 4515
Today's Topics:
1) Hollow Years Single
by Darth1@aol.com
2) Opinions
by IceQD@aol.com
3) Strings & Things...(absolutely NDTC - so sue me!)
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
4) Platypus
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
5) Re: Opinions
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
6) Singers.
by Chris Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
7) King's X email address (??) (NDTC)
by Darth1@aol.com
8) Grammatical Gauges
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
9) Re: Marry Christmas, all. Except you, Eckie
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
10) Ive got good news..and bad
by AyameYuki@aol.com
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4513
by MTeiper@aol.com
12) Re: Mike Bahr saga
by JamesAhab@aol.com
13) random ramblings
by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
14) Saga reccomendation
by nmcwatters@Welcom.com
15) Re: random ramblings
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
16) New Live DT MP3s Available...
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:54:44 EST
From: Darth1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Hollow Years Single
Message-ID: <cc7d45d7.367aa4f4@aol.com>
I just got the Hollow Years single from the ever faithful CDNow...
1. I hated the Radio Edit of Hollow Years. The real version sounds much
better!
2. "The Way It Used To Be" - GREAT F'ing Song!!! Should've been on FII!
3. Does anyone know the story behind "You Or Me"? Why they changed it so
dramaticly on FII? I personaly liked "You Not Me" better...
Please forgive if any of this is common knowledge (I haven't read the FAQ =
in
about a year...).
Josh S.
NP: Hollow Years Single - The Way It Used to Be
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he should resign." - Bill Clinton July, 1974
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http://members.aol.com/Darth1/progmanic.html
- My Personal Web page -
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStip/Studio/8435
- My Progressive Rock/Metal page -
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:57:44 EST
From: IceQD@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Opinions
Message-ID: <1fca94dd.367aa5a8@aol.com>
Lisa Marie wrote
>Oh my, forbid any of you should be exposed to the opinions of another
>group of prog metal fans!
Hahahahaha too funny!!
This comes from someone who actually CENSORS other people's opinions on her
own list (The Mirror). Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black .........
Is The Mirror list still running ? ;-)
Ice Queen
The cat crept in, crept out again ........
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:16:38 -0500
From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Strings & Things...(absolutely NDTC - so sue me!)
Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5EC177B4@AMSC_NTAS>
In response to Korg, et al...
009's all the way, baby! :)
BTW, I remember that Tommy Vitrelli (a.k.a. Tommy T. Baron) from Coroner
used to use 12's. Anyone that likes shred stuff should hear him - one of the
few that's a great lead AND rhythm player...
> Although I don't begrudge people who use 8's or 6 fingered
> men, even if they
> DID kill my father.
"We are men of action - lies do not become us."
"Well spoken, sir" (beat) "What is it?"
"I notice you have six fingers on your right hand - someone was looking for
you..."
I love that movie...
We now return you to your regularly scheduled bashing of the Perp Awards...
Mike
Division
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:28:04 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Platypus
Message-ID: <19981218192804.26857.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
I just thought I would offer my oppinion of this cd. I really like it
even though i would not really call it prog (whatever that means
today) I would say that this is simply a good cd. Rod Morganstein is
simply great, always playing with taste. I have not listened to it
all the way through but what I have heard I like. This is a good
departure from the world of prog to a simple kick back and rock kind
of album. Of course this is my *gasp* oppinion. take it or leave it,
i think this cd is pretty good.
Later all
NP Platypus-When Pus Comes To Shove
==
John
When all of your wishes have been granted,
many of your dreams will be destroyed.
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:34:21 -0800
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Opinions
Message-ID: <367AAE3D.2018BEA8@pacbell.net>
IceQD@aol.com wrote:
>
> Lisa Marie wrote
>
> >Oh my, forbid any of you should be exposed to the opinions of another
> >group of prog metal fans!
>
> Hahahahaha too funny!!
> This comes from someone who actually CENSORS other people's opinions on her
> own list (The Mirror). Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black .........
The difference being that The Mirror is a MODERATED mailing list. I
don't censor opinions, I only reject posts that are off topic. But
thanks for playing.
> Is The Mirror list still running ? ;-)
Yes it is, as a matter of fact. Right now there's a little discussion
going on about JP's instructional video... which, oddly enough, is right
on-topic.
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://www.dreamt.org/jessie _______________________________ Ytsejam Radio on Real Audio http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:46:43 -0500 From: Chris Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Singers. Message-ID: <367AB122.F05314E7@mindspring.com>
Ok, this is my last post on this subject. I know I'm gonna get shit for this "hahahahaaaaa he's running away scared like a little chicken!!!", but Adam can call me or my mom or my dad whatever he feels like, it's not gonna make a damn difference.
Adam is wrong about a lot of the stuff he wrote - the Empire tours numbers, his counterarguments to my takes on LaBrie's singing, etc. I've seen the shows, listened to the records, heard the realaudio transmissions for both bands, but I don't think anybody is interested in hearing about it. Anybody who's heard recordings (recordings don't lie, of course unless they are re-done in the studio) already has their own opinions anyway.
The whole point I am trying to make still is: I don't think making fun or dissing Tate and Queensr=FFche is something that will make LaBrie look any better or worse. It will only piss off people that like both bands (like me), especially when some of the things said are not true. I'm not gonna dwelve into it anymore, nobody has to take my word for it, everybody should just listen and form their own opinions.
And by the way, I never attacked you personally Adam, I attacked your arguments. You're the only one calling names here and attacking my person. I never did that. You've lost my respect for good (oh I know how big a laughter that little phrase is gonna get, but oh well).
Christian.
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:53:10 EST From: Darth1@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: King's X email address (??) (NDTC) Message-ID: <56ab2eba.367ab2a6@aol.com>
Pardon the intrusion, but does anyone know an email address where I could email the band King's X? They don't have any info on their main web page a= bout getting ahold of them... Any help would be appreciated...
Josh S.
NP: Rush - Big Money
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:03:45 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Grammatical Gauges Message-ID: <367AC331.6B8E462@imap1.asu.edu>
CyberDuke wrote: > Talking about gauge, I heard the maniiac Steie Ray Vaughan uses .012, > 013! :) That man is an animal. Anyone knows precisely?
Whoa! He's still around? When's his next concert? I'M THERE! ;^P
~Eckie's such a canned ham
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:35:45 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Marry Christmas, all. Except you, Eckie Message-ID: <367ACAB1.A4EF2664@imap1.asu.edu>
On this Simon John Dodd character:
... /\ ..heheheh... || ... || ... /\/\J|/\ ... | |\ ...what a weirdo... | || ... \ / ...heheheh... | | Ya kinda wonder what kinda television shows this kid grew up on. :)
DT RuLeZ!
~Eckie Again
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:38:20 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ive got good news..and bad Message-ID: <e845a68e.367ad95c@aol.com>
hey jammers...the good news for all of us bassists that John is #1. Much thanks to those who voted ( even if ya are a guitarist :) ). but the bad news : i read an article ( bassplayer's 10th anniversary ) on 10 Interesting..something...cant remember that last word. but it said " We asked a bassist who submits a bi monthly prog work to do a regular article. This usually requires a lot of editing. Once he sees the finished product, he quits. "...im sure they were talking about JM. :(,,,i like his articles! LETS GET HIM BACK TO BASSPLAYER!!
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:42:06 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4513 Message-ID: <a908f004.367ada3e@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-12-18 06:20:34 EST, you write:
<< >>God let's hope not. I sent Mike Bahr $30 for 3 DT videos on November >>30,.......1997!!!! Now we have all heard Mike's sad stories about why the Maybe he is dubbing them on slow play :P GaZ >>
Normally I don't post one-liners, but that's fuckin' HILARIOUS! :-)
Good one, GaZ!!
- Matt T., still waiting for some Bahrman CD's as well... :-P
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:42:52 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Mike Bahr saga Message-ID: <d54788a3.367ada6c@aol.com>
>< > > Oh, and for those of you who have followed > > the Mike Bahr saga over time will likely be interested in the following > > webpage...pulled it off of alt.music.dream-theater. > > And that URL is..... ? I beleive it's www.goodnet.com/durnik if it hasn't changed. ><
That's www.goodnet.com/~durnik. Although visiting it would be a waste of time. He's bankrupt. Cry me a river.
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:43:21 -0500 From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: random ramblings Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981218174321.006b392c@pop.usefulware.com>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids.....
This post is 100% NDTC. Well, maybe 98%, since I just mentioned DT when I said "NDTC". Well, maybe 96% now since I just mentioned DT twice more. Er. I'll shut up now.
Richi remarked: >CP: Explorers Club - Age Of Impact >I love it! I want more of it! Any recommendations in this direction? Anyone?
If you dig Explorers Club, you'll probably love Magellan's three releases, "Hour of Restoration", "Impending Ascension", and "Test of Wills". All three are packed full of the same evil time changes, soaring harmonies, and densely layered musical compositions that characterize Explorers Club. No surprise there since the man behind Magellan is the same one behind Explorers Club -- Trent Gardner.
KorgX3 remarked: >*chuckles* Some people just don't know when Eckie's bein' funny. Ah,well.
The answer to this one is simple: if it's a day ending in "y", Eckie's being funny. :) On all other days, he's as serious as they come.
Something interesting I noticed: although I am not nearly as happy with Angra's "Fireworks" as I was with "Holy Land", there are two songs on the album which I was perfectly at home with almost from the get-go: "Gentle Change" and "Lisbon". Something about the melodies and structures in those songs seemed somehow to touch a chord with me. Weird -- I hadn't heard the tunes anywhere else before, but somehow I was familiar with the songs anyway. Must be because the music seems perfectly right, perfectly natural. Anybody else run into this before, with this album or with others?
ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:11:53 -0600 From: nmcwatters@Welcom.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Saga reccomendation Message-ID: <D237B42AA971D211BC9400A0C98379B41DC28C@exchange.wst.com>
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Richard Neumeyer wrote:
> Really funny, cause I worship Saga (the earlier albums) and > didn't get into Rush 'til now. How about some recommendations?
Well, I recently got Wildest Dreams, their 1987 release. And I was impressed more by the lyrics and singer than anything else. He reminds me a lot of Tate. *Kirby dodges the flames! Of course, they brought in a studio drummer for that album, so I can't really be impressed with him. ;) But it's really very 80s -- lots of 80s-sounding keyboard work and effects.
I have got to hear more of their work before I can make a better judgement on them. Anyway, if you're into that sort of thing, I'd reccomend it. :)
It's FRI-DAY!!! Time to get the fuuuk outta here! :)
-Nicole/Kirby
P.S. If this thing sends as HTML, it's not my fault. The server at work sucks, and there's nothing I can do about it!
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters Technical Writer aka Kirby on irc.dreamt.org Welcom Publications Dept. ytsekirby@geocities.com -or- nmcwatters@welcom.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Richard Neumeyer wrote:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Really funny, cause I worship Saga (the earlier = albums) and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> didn't get into Rush 'til now. How about some = recommendations?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, I recently got Wildest Dreams, their 1987 = release. And I was impressed more by the lyrics and singer than = anything else. He reminds me a lot of Tate. *Kirby dodges = the flames! Of course, they brought in a studio drummer for that = album, so I can't really be impressed with him. ;) But it's = really very 80s -- lots of 80s-sounding keyboard work and = effects.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have got to hear more of their work before I can = make a better judgement on them. Anyway, if you're into that sort = of thing, I'd reccomend it. :)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's FRI-DAY!!! Time to get the fuuuk outta = here! :)</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Nicole/Kirby</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>P.S. If this thing sends as HTML, it's not my = fault. The server at work sucks, and there's nothing I can do = about it!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Nicole Stachowicz McWatters = Technical Writer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>aka Kirby on irc.dreamt.org = Welcom Publications Dept.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> ytsekirby@geocities.com -or- = nmcwatters@welcom.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> <A = HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039> = </FONT> </P>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:45:32 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: random ramblings Message-ID: <367B134C.5A09019@caribe.net>
Phil Carter wrote:
> Greetings ye 'jamanoids..... > > This post is 100% NDTC. Well, maybe 98%, since I just mentioned DT when I > said "NDTC". Well, maybe 96% now since I just mentioned DT twice more. Er. > I'll shut up now. > > Richi remarked: > >CP: Explorers Club - Age Of Impact > >I love it! I want more of it! Any recommendations in this direction? Anyone? > > If you dig Explorers Club, you'll probably love Magellan's three releases, > "Hour of Restoration", "Impending Ascension", and "Test of Wills". All > three are packed full of the same evil time changes, soaring harmonies, and > densely layered musical compositions that characterize Explorers Club. No > surprise there since the man behind Magellan is the same one behind > Explorers Club -- Trent Gardner.
I wouldnt go that far.. because it would be more true to say Explorer's club is a steroid version of Magellan.. and magellan being a "watered down" EC, You could say .. if you like magellan..then youll love EC, but its not the same the other way around... i absolutely love EC, and "like" Magellan.. and althought the style is pretty much the same.. its all to a much lower extent.. specially the guitar playing., the vocals ( the guy is good..but in no way compares..)
"[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:54:55 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: New Live DT MP3s Available... Message-ID: <4.1.19981218214849.00a74020@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
Hey folks...
Got bored today and decided to put up some Dream Theater mp3s.
1) Ytsejam from Kanagawa, Japan 1/10/98 (4:50, 4.4megs) This is a unique version, as far as I know. It's got a very strangely timed middle part. (No, it's not the FYS version) It's really like Portnoy was trying to fuck with the rest of the band. :) I cut it off right where Portnoy's drum solo starts since everything after that is normal.
2) Metropolis with Nicky Lemmons from Kanagawa, Japan 1/10/98 (15:13, 13.9megs) This is the one and only (I bleeve) appearance of Nicky Lemmons in Japan. Check it out if you haven't heard Nicky yet... :)
Ytsejam is in stereo but Metrop is in mono to keep down file size (which is still large). The links for these are at my webpage (in the .sig). I made a special effort to make a non-frames version for those schmucks still using Lynx. I knew if I didn't someone would start crying like a few months ago. :) Take care all, and enjoy...
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net ICQ: 9382967 http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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