YTSEJAM Digest 4516
Today's Topics:
1) bahr wars: the final episode
by Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
2) Dream Theater holiday shows
by AnalogGal@aol.com
3) Re: New Live DT MP3s Available...
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
4) Mike Bahr Saga
by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
5) Opinions
by AnalogGal@aol.com
6) Bahr wars...
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
7) Mind Rot
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
8) Re: www.800.com
by James Hunt <p_haze@mail.utexas.edu>
9) Re:Cool DT moment of the day
by AL <al@isd.net>
10) The value of polls...
by AL <al@isd.net>
11) Sigh...LaBrie/Tate once more...
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
12) more jamesisms (not a flame!)
by Brad Plumb <palpatine@earthlink.net>
13) Re: Opinions
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
14) THe Mighty Finn
by "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de>
15) Did I ever say SRV was alive??? 2 jammers thought so! :)
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
16) JP SEGA GAME
by "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be>
17) ANOTHER CLASSICAL QUESTION
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
18) Re: JP SEGA GAME
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
19) 800.com
by Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
20) Re: Dream Theater holiday shows
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Der Herr Bodinger <bodinger@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: bahr wars: the final episode
Message-ID: <19981219024638.14017.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
well, it had to happen sooner or later.
mr pr*sm himself has declared bankruptcy.
everybody who sent him money has now officially lost out. he
claims to 'no longer have any assets' and 'legally has no
obligation to finish shipping any more products'.
long way from 'having everything shipped by thanksgiving, even
if everything goes to hell' (taken from previous update), isn't
it?
===
Charles A. Bodinger
Buses stop at a bus station. Trains stop at a train
station. On my desk i have a work station. -unknown
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:18:02 EST
From: AnalogGal@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Dream Theater holiday shows
Message-ID: <62434532.367b1aea@aol.com>
Hey!
Just wanted to say that I'm going to be at all the DT holiday shows, and I'd
like to hear from everyone else who will be attending. We'll pour some
goblets from the cask of '43 (winks at Syrinx) and toast the new year! Look
for the tall chick with the camera who looks like Ginger-Spice-gone-heavy-
metal. And don't be put off if I say, "You tawkin ta me?" if you come up to
me. I'm from the Bronx and we say that to EVERYbody! :) You'd be surprised
how threatening a black-clad towering redhead in platforms can be!
Anyway, hope to see a lot of you there!
"If Chewbacca does not make sense, you must ACQUIT!!"
Christina
http://dereksherinian.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:23:26 -0500
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: New Live DT MP3s Available...
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981218222326.007eba30@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Adam, you are a punk. do we need to start this again? I hope you never lose
your vission.
> a special effort to make a non-frames version for those schmucks still
> using Lynx. I knew if I didn't someone would start crying like a few
> months ago. :) Take care all, and enjoy...
>
> __________________________________________________
> Adam Pye (Alpine)
> alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net ICQ: 9382967
> http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine
> ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists
> __________________________________________________
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:45:17 -0500
From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Mike Bahr Saga
Message-ID: <367B214D.2790@idt.net>
> Subject: Re: Mike Bahr saga
> Message-ID: <d54788a3.367ada6c@aol.com>
>
> Oh, and for those of you who have followed
> the Mike Bahr saga over time will likely be interested in the > following webpage...pulled it off of alt.music.dream-theater.
>
> That's www.goodnet.com/~durnik. Although visiting it would be a waste > of time. He's bankrupt. Cry me a river.
For the record, I E-Mailed Mike today regarding taking over his
outstanding orders, with the stipulation that I get ALL of his Masters
in return. If this goes through, you will ALL be receiving any CDs you
have on order with Prism. Those CDs will be added to my catalog as
well. Apparently he also received other offers from other producers, so
one way or another I believe you will all get your debts settled.
John DiBella
President/Xanadu Records
http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html
Dream Theater Tourdate Archive
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/49/DreamT.html
* Be EXCELLENT to each other! *
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:35:43 EST
From: AnalogGal@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Opinions
Message-ID: <2d36f550.367b1f0f@aol.com>
Friends, Romans, ytsepersons, lend me your ears! I'll give them back.
Promise! :)
>Ahem<
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and some are stinky. But, who
cares? In the immortal words of one Mr. Rodney King: "Can't we all just get
along?"
Just a thought...
Christina
http://dereksherinian.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:18:08 -0500
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Bahr wars...
Message-ID: <19981219041913.HGRC20018@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
I must be the most hateful, spiteful person on Earth. At this very moment,
I'm reading Mike's page and giggling uncontrollably. Its amazing that for
three and a half years now, we've been trying to get him to own up to his
shady and insincere business practices, and now he is. I would commend him
for his honesty- if he weren't solely out to save his last epidermal layer.
Oh, and if you think I should be ashamed for saying this, you forget that
Mike can't read it as he no longer owns any PCs.
Stodge
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:27:17 -0500
From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Mind Rot
Message-ID: <000901be2b07$dde217e0$c9586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Hey yall,
I just saw a good write up of a band called Mind Rot in Modern Drummer which
praised the drummer (oddly enough) saying that he's got mean chops and
creativity. Has anyone heard anything about this band? (They're from
southern cal.) Opinions please!
Scott.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:15:54 -0600
From: James Hunt <p_haze@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: www.800.com
Message-ID: <367A012A.2A767690@mail.utexas.edu>
a lurker steps out of the darkness and into the half-light for the briefest of moments...
schnipp wrote:
> Has anybody received anything from www.800.com yet?
sure, i got all three of my albums a couple of days ago. but you never know.
oh, i use 11's, as if anyone cares...
np: mahavishnu orchestra, birds of fire
james
p_haze@mail.utexas.edu
"There are things that will surely seem as they are not.
And I might not know all that I've got.
But the bluffing is easy, and I haven't seen your hand..."
-King's X, Lies in the Sand
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:21:37 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re:Cool DT moment of the day
Message-ID: <367B5401.3DD655EF@isd.net>
Carlos Alfaro wrote:
>Me and another Dt listening friend were formatting my pc today, and
>we ordered pizza, i had my Awake shirt on right, and the pizza guy
>actually recognized it and said he liked DT, ( this was an older guy 30
>something pizza guy heh ) and liked the rush influence..
What the fuck is this? I'm going to be 37 in just 7 days. I sure hope
you don't think I listen to DT while cruising to drug store in the
"Family Truckster" to get my Geritol fix.
I think I'll hop on my walker, shuffle over to the corner... And pout.
-- AL... The Ytse-ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:50:10 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: The value of polls... Message-ID: <367B5AB2.A95EE24B@isd.net>
The results are in! When Ytsejammers were asked: (What brand motol oil is each member of DT most likely to use?)
Mike Portnoy - Valvoline John Petrucci - Castrol GTX John Myung - Quaker State Derek Sherinian - Mobil 1 James LaBrie - Pennzoil
Who gives a fuck?
And we'd probably be wrong.
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey Iraqi Jammers... Duck!
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:07:50 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Sigh...LaBrie/Tate once more... Message-ID: <4.1.19981219022419.00a74020@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
Christian said:
>Adam is wrong about a lot of the stuff he wrote - the Empire tours >numbers, his counterarguments to my takes on LaBrie's singing, etc. I've >seen the shows, listened to the records, heard the realaudio >transmissions for both bands, but I don't think anybody is interested in >hearing about it
Hey, I'm always open to any rebuttal of my opinions. That's why they're called opinions... I'd like to see where you're getting your numbers for the Empire tour, tho'. You're just plain, 100%, USDA Grade A incorrect. This one isn't an opinion, it's just a simple fact...
For a listing of all shows on the Emipre tour, check out:
http://www.queensryche.com/empire_tour_schedule.html
I mean, jesus, it's not like I'm making up numbers here, as apparently you are. I'm just counting the number of shows from the OFFICIAL tour list. Compare the official lists from both tours and you'll see what I mean... There were EXACTLY 65 shows scheduled for the Empire tour, as I said before... PROVE me wrong instead of just spouting it out on the list with no backing facts... If I'm wrong I'll admit it with no griping...
Yes, James has been off on both of the Liveconcerts shows, unfortunately. Tate was also not his best on his Liveconcerts broadcast. Apparently you're basing your opinion on those shows and the live albums. What is that, four or five shows? Get at least SOME basis for your arguments and we'll discuss further. Give us examples. Hell, come over and listen to all the DT shows I've got, and you'll see what I mean. I even agreed with you on some points. Did you just not see that, or are you just trying to get sympathy from those who know better?
Again, I'll reiterate for those who can't seem to get my general jist. I'm a Tate fan. I never insulted him in my posts, regardless of what those who's Hooked on Phonics didn't work for them say. And did you notice the final line of my last post? It WASN'T a flame - I was just kidding. Notice the smiley faces (I said that before, but some folks apparently didn't register it). This is an Internet mailing list and shouldn't be taken too seriously. If you can't take good humored jibes then just don't read anymore. I tried to make a lucid, tho' opinionated (as most are), discussion. Tate DOES have quirks, as all singers do (including LaBrie). He DOES let the backing vocals take over when he's tired - and that is NOT a bad thing (and I never said it was). It IS true that Tate quit after the third song during one HITNF show. QR DOESN'T throw in improvs, and neither does Tate (unless he can't hit the notes that night). Tate IS off key on a few songs on the shows I mentioned. Get the tapes (ie, "proof") before you dismiss my claims. Just because he's perfect on the shows you've heard (though if you call the internet show he did perfect, you're legally insane) doesn't mean he's perfect throughout. This seems to me like common sense stuff, but apparently not... You can't make generalizations without actually having something backing those generalizations.
I'm under the impression you were offended by the martyr lines (which were jokes, as I specificly said). I wouldn't have said that, tho', if you'd actually had some proof of your opinons. Give me examples (as I gave you with the two shows I mentioned previously). If you can't give examples you're out. You can't just say "Tate is never off key" without having anything to back it up. Maybe I'll cut an mp3 of the Mineapolis show...
Sorry to post this drivel, but it just bugs me when people make these sweeping assumptions with absolutely nothing to back them up. It really is assinine... Sheesh...
Take care all..
__________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine(-at-)bellsouth.net ICQ: 9382967 http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~alpine ^^ Above URL for Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:11:07 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <palpatine@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: more jamesisms (not a flame!) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19981219091107.006deba8@earthlink.net>
Since Adam posted the Nicky Lemmons live Metropolis I gave it a listen, and I was turned on to something that I've noticed before but it never quite clicked. When James sings Metropolis live the "As a child I thought I could live without pain" portion comes out:
"Alcatraz! I thawed out my limbs with a pain, with a taaaaarooooot, alcatraz I pound that tack hard into me, I'm a spear and I'm soooo.... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This may sound a little far fetched but hey it's what I hear. Also, on that particular mp3, I often hear what sounds like audience members chimbing in everytime James goes high. You'll hear these little extra voices going "WWWAAAHHHHH"
Sorry for spammin with my pointless nonsense.
BrAd PlUmB Co-President of NARF (North Houston Anime Resistance Force) If you live in Houston and you like anime check us out! NARF Homepage: http://students.ou.edu/T/Joshua.R.Tompkins-1/narf/ "Thank God I'm an aetheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "High School's much better than Junior High, people still call you names but they don't do it as much to your face." -Welcome to the Dollhouse
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:51:38 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Opinions Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9812191347160.15687-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 IceQD@aol.com wrote:
> Hahahahaha too funny!! > This comes from someone who actually CENSORS other people's opinions on her > own list (The Mirror). Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black .........
I don't think it's fair to say that... In the beginning days of The Mirror, we could all state our opinion as to what topics the list should/could be about... Then there was a vote,and the rules were clear. Until now, Lisa Marie has only made sure that those democratic rules were followed, and IMO she never did something unreasonable... Besides, the purpose of The Mirror was to be DIFFERENT from the Jam, i.e. less BS and more DTC. (I don't mind b*llsh*t on the Jam, mind you, I just don't want it on The Mirror)
> Is The Mirror list still running ? ;-)
Yes it is...
Cheers
Zaphod
============================================================================== Peter Geerts *QUOTE* zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be "HELP!" (The Beatles) ICQ: 13122363 Second Year's Political Sciences Student, Leuven University, Belgium President JVS Orion Mechelen Youth Astronomers Club, Belgium ==============================================================================
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:26:47 +0100 From: "Neil Gallop" <nga@software-ag.de> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: THe Mighty Finn Message-ID: <000201be2b53$3a8fdfe0$2fa1bd9d@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
Mape is back, and what a performance! I couldn't have summed that album up better myself - loved the following "too bad that the poachers left this lame individual alive to spoil the reputation of the other, totally respectable platypi..."
New thread: which gauge guitar strings would be most suitable for stringing up Mike Bahr.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Ian Dury - New Boots And Panties
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:52:31 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Did I ever say SRV was alive??? 2 jammers thought so! :) Message-ID: <367BA18F.707B12C3@mol.com.mk>
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:03:45 -0700 > From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> > To: ytsejam@axnet.net > Subject: Grammatical Gauges > > CyberDuke wrote: > > Talking about gauge, I heard the maniiac Stevie Ray Vaughan uses > > .012, 013! :) That man is an animal. Anyone knows precisely? > > Whoa! He's still around? When's his next concert? > I'M THERE! ;^P
Yes I'm still around. Tour dates will be available soon! ;)
> ~Eckie's such a canned ham
>From year 1845? :) --
CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 18:08:41 +0100 From: "David Van Glabeke" <hawkey@skynet.be> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: JP SEGA GAME Message-ID: <000001be2b72$3a770fa0$9111eec3@david>
I'd like to know the name of the SEGA Game John Petrucci wrote the music for..
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:56:18 -0300 From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar> To: "ytsejam mail list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: ANOTHER CLASSICAL QUESTION Message-ID: <000001be2b77$03806000$1b710ed1@matiasfr>
Hi jammers anyone knows who is the author of the intro in the " Randy Rhoads tribute" ?
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:11:35 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: JP SEGA GAME Message-ID: <00ab01be2b83$fd0f48a0$02c95bd1@eduardo>
Necronomicon, wasn't it? I thought it was a pinball game tho... oh well, what do i know. moo.
--
this is my sig.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:14:10 -0600 From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com> To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: 800.com Message-ID: <367BFB02.A984215B@ix.netcom.com>
I was just wondering, has anybody who ordered from 800.com received their 3 cds for $1 yet? They mailed me a message saying they would send the tracking number once the order was shipped, but it has been more than a week and I have received no tracking number. I remember a couple digests ago somebody mentioned that they still had not received their order, and it made me wonder about this. Had anybody ordered from 800.com before they had this promotion going on? How was the service?
Thanks, Justin James rumtum@worldnet.att.net
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:40:47 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Dream Theater holiday shows Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981219144047.007ef9a0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Well, if my friend comes through with those Birch Hill tickets, you will see me there. Look for a guy with a red and white cane, short brown hair and some progressive rock shirt on. Hope I can find them and that my GF hasn't burned them yet. :) At 07:38 PM 12/18/1998 -0800, you wrote: > > Hey! > > Just wanted to say that I'm going to be at all the DT holiday shows, and I'd > like to hear from everyone else who will be attending. We'll pour some > goblets from the cask of '43 (winks at Syrinx) and toast the new year! Look > for the tall chick with the camera who looks like Ginger-Spice-gone-heavy- > metal. And don't be put off if I say, "You tawkin ta me?" if you come up to > me. I'm from the Bronx and we say that to EVERYbody! :) You'd be surprised > how threatening a black-clad towering redhead in platforms can be! > > Anyway, hope to see a lot of you there! > > "If Chewbacca does not make sense, you must ACQUIT!!" > Christina > http://dereksherinian.com >
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 4516 **************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 18:09:35 EST