YTSEJAM Digest 4526

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: DTIFC info/Echo Hollow/Kerry Livgren
     by schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
      2) Re: Extra ticket for Irving Plaza.
     by "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <bosstoneC@aol.com>
      3) RE to death metal topics
     by "mosempri" <mosempri@tin.it>
      4) TO THOSE GOING TO THE TOADS SHOW!
     by Inflammabl@aol.com
      5) 12/26 Birch Hill Comments
     by MeatCakes@aol.com
      6) mental pyro
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
      7) Re: RE to death metal topics
     by DragynLMC3@aol.com
      8) Symphony X 'The Divine Twilight Of Damnation' Bootleg review
     by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
      9) new Gathering CD
     by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
     10) Philly Show *some random spoilers*
     by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
     11) Re: Philly Show *some random spoilers*
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     12) Damon review / new Ytsejam MP3
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     13) Signed Copy of Chroma Key
     by "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
     14) woohoo!!
     by yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net>
     15) BirchHill scum
     by "Penna, John:" <jpenna1@tosco.com>

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    Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:15:35 -0600
    From: schnapster@juno.com (Dale R Newberry)
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: DTIFC info/Echo Hollow/Kerry Livgren
    Message-ID: <19981227.132104.14518.0.schnapster@juno.com>

    Hey, could someone e-mail me the info for joining the DTIFC? I don't
    have web access here at my house, so I can't go get it from there. I had
    printed it out when I was at my dad's house the other day, but it all got
    lost somewhere between there and here. Thanks.

    For any Tourniquet fans interested in what former members Guy Ritter
    (vocals) and Gary Lenaire (guitar) are up to now, they have a new project
    called Echo Hollow with an album out called "Diet of Worms" on Geneva
    Records. I haven't heard it yet, but I'll be sure and let you all know
    about when I do. I did read a positive review of it, and I know they do
    a pretty killer version of Sunday Bloody Sunday.

    Also, for any Kansas/Kerry Livgren fans that might not know about this,
    he has a relatively new album out called "Prime Mover II." Haven't heard
    it, but, again, read a positive review. For ordering info on this one,
    write:
    Numavox
    PO Box 44
    Berryton, KS 66409

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:37:57 -0000
    From: "Computer Jim DTFOTL" <bosstoneC@aol.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Extra ticket for Irving Plaza.
    Message-ID: <000c01be31d0$6ad73580$7a4b3181@i9web>

    >I have an extra ticket for Tuesday's show at Irving Plaza. (Thanks to a
    >reliable friend, there's a 99.9% chance I will be going by myself. :| ) ...
    >E-mail me if you're interested in buying it, preferably as soon as
    possible!

    I'D LOVE IT! You can call me at 516-253-0308 (my name's Jim)
    Or Page me at 516-452-6603!

    OHHHHH GOOOOD>..... I hope I can get it from you =)

    Thanks,
    Jim

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:46:21 +0100
    From: "mosempri" <mosempri@tin.it>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: RE to death metal topics
    Message-ID: <001901be31fb$7dcb9980$c785d8d4@morenose>

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    I think that you have forgotten a big band: ATHEIST.
    Their last (and I think the only) work was produced in 199, it is really =
    fantastic and it is called ELEMENTS.
    Does anybody know if they have done something other?

    Moro

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    Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:12:25 EST
    From: Inflammabl@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: TO THOSE GOING TO THE TOADS SHOW!
    Message-ID: <41074245.3686daf9@aol.com>

    Hey all... I just wanted to ask all of the jammers who are going to the show
    tomorrow night... I'd like to know where the jam is hanging for drinks and
    dinner... Let me know via private.. thanks.. Later, J

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    Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:21:21 EST
    From: MeatCakes@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: 12/26 Birch Hill Comments
    Message-ID: <d6433728.3686f931@aol.com>

    Hey...

    I attended last night's show at Birch Hill Night Club in Old Bridge, NJ, and I
    agree wholely with what Chris and Damon said about the crowd. the vast
    majority of the crowd was rude, unappreciative, and cranky, just like a bunch
    of 5 year olds whining because they didn't get their way. So DT didn't put on
    a "regular" show with Pull Me Under and the other harder hitting tunes. I
    think EVERYONE was well informed beforehand about the type of show they were
    playing; there was even a sign at the door that clearly said that it was a
    pseudo-unplugged show, that there would be clips from the video, and that they
    would NOT be playing PMU. If you weren't too busy making a fuss about the
    length of the video clips, you might have noticed that they played all the
    heavier DT staples in the video clips to tide over the older diehards, AS WELL
    AS several clips NOT included in the video (so to anyone who bitched because
    they could have watched it at home: you're wrong; shut up!). Think about
    it... the clips, albeit long, were better than watching the boring
    kaleidoscope computer animation, a sucky opening act, or even worse... footage
    from the latest Poison tour or... (shudder) Blind Melon!

    As for the infantile sit-down protest of the length of the video or the
    chanting of "bullshit"... anyone that took part in that inane action should be
    ashamed of themselves. I proudly stood among the sitters, and I was appalled
    that more people did not remain standing. DT took the time to get together
    and put a show on for a five lucky crowds, and this is how you receive them?
    There are thousands of fans around the world who would do anything for a
    chance to see them in the intimate setting they offered.

    I'd like to end this post on an upnote, so I would also like to say that the
    show was fantastic as usual, and it was a nice change of pace to see a show
    that was a little out of the ordinary. I just wish that other people could
    realize how lucky you are to have a band like Dream Theater who cares about
    the fans and will come out to play, even when the natives are wild... hell, if
    I were in a band, I'd just say the hell with it, and not play for the
    ungrateful crowd... but then again, maybe that is why I'm not in Dream
    Theater. That, and the fact that I can't play 'Flight Of The Bumblebee' on my
    guitar, let alone as fast and clean as John Petrucci does.

    All comments/criticisms welcome.

    Rob Beaton
    beatonrj@jmu.edu
    Meatcakes@aol.com

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    Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:15:47 -0500
    From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: mental pyro
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981227231547.007d6990@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    Mental pyro, can you resend your last message, I accidentally erased it. It
    may have had your address in it. I know not ton include BMS on the tape to
    send you. Sorry for the clutter.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:44:04 EST
    From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: RE to death metal topics
    Message-ID: <6db9078b.36871aa4@aol.com>

    dear Mosempri@whatever.uknow
    Whatever kind of mailer you're using, it totally turned the email black. Now I
    would bet money (and probably win) that this is a problem in AOL but i do
    beseach you to turn off the html/mime/whatever. Many thanks! :}

    ~Lisa
    DragynLMC3@aol.com
    http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
    Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. -Marie Curie

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:27:59 +1100
    From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net, OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS <oan@club-internet.fr>
    Subject: Symphony X 'The Divine Twilight Of Damnation' Bootleg review
    Message-ID: <3686FABF.3D7AD351@sydney.net>

    Custom bootleg makers OAN Records latest release is an all
    too rare live recording of Symphony X performance in
    Ocober of this year, at the la Locomotive, Paris, France.
    As SX don't seem to play many live shows, this 2 CD set
    is a must for all serious SX fans.
    Plus we also get to hear if they can pull some of their
    amazing studio recording's, off live.
    Quite amazingly (for me) they sound great live, easily
    eclipsing the studio counterparts.

    Now onto the actual bootleg itself:
    The 2 CD set comes superbly packaged with full colour
    liner, with pictures from the show in a slimline
    clear tray double cd case that could easily pass for
    a mass made professionaly made boot. The discs themselves
    come complete with full colour labels..

    The sound quality, for an audience recording is close
    to perfect as you can get, from this source.
    For most all the instruments are clear and quite
    clear in the mix.
    There is little, next to no, annoying audience chatter
    or talking to detract from the music.

    I don't know how many of this limited edition of 75
    sets are left, but get them while you can.

    BTW I did pay full price for this boot :)

    GaZ

    There is more information and a mp3 of 'Of Sins And Shadows' at:
    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:49:06 +1100
    From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: new Gathering CD
    Message-ID: <368729E2.69DCF4A7@sydney.net>

    I need a favour from a jammer in Europe, please :)

    Would somebody be kind enought to pick up the new
    CD from The Gathering 'How To Measure A Planet?'
    the double cd version, as it's impossible for me
    to obtain here.
    I'd gladly re-enburse any expenses with either cash
    bootleg cdrs, stuffed kangaroos, etc, etc :)

    Thanks
    Please reply to icarus@sydney.net

    GaZ

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 02:33:08 -0500
    From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Philly Show *some random spoilers*
    Message-ID: <000d01be3234$53ff96e0$cd586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>

    Well, not much to say other than, WOW what a show. But um, thats standard
    for a Dream Theater show. Anyway, they did play Nightmare Cinema, which
    came about spontaneously due to Mike frantic "NIGHTMARE CINEMA" cries to the
    powers that be. (Thanks mike for listening!)

    As to all the jammers I did meet, HI!, and to all those I didn't, where the
    hell were you?! Pete, Tempus, Maraya?!?! But to Skadz, Mads, Ms. Mads,
    Bogie, and countless others, it was a pleasure!

    On to the actual concert. The concert started off lame in a sense that the
    stupid people in the audience couldn't get it into their thick skulls that
    this wasn't a "normal" concert. They obviously didn't have the intelligence
    to read the signs on the doors leading into the hall saying "we will not
    play pull me under or anything of that sort." So, until Porntoy yelled at
    one person who kept clamoring for TTT, the concert was so-so. But
    afterwards, people began to realize that their efforts were futile, and
    maybe they should just sit back and relax. Of course during this entire
    time, I'm belting out the vocals at the top of my lungs and everyone was
    looking at me like I was crazy because one, I knew what the hell they were
    playing, and two, I liked it :) Ok, for those of you who do want details as
    to what was played, read on.

    (In no specific order, and I'm sure some songs are going to get left out)
    Cover My Eyes
    Speak To Me
    The Way It Used To Be
    Different Strings
    La Villa Strangiato (guitar solo part and "monsters" section)
    Cygnus X-1 teaser
    Hell's Kitchen
    Perfect Strangers (nightmare cinema)
    Eve
    Hollow Years
    Take Away My Pain (demo version)
    The Silent Man (electric version)
    To Live Forever
    Hot For Teacher (derek wouldn't sing it, so they stopped after a little bit)
    Good Bye Yellow Brick Road
    Hey You
    Bad
    Since I've Been Loving You
    O Holy Night
    Metropolis II (hehe, just kidding)

    Ok, my memory is exhausted as well as my body. Thanks to all those who made
    this night memorable! Now I must sleep.

    Scott.

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:17:00 -0700
    From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Philly Show *some random spoilers*
    Message-ID: <000c01be323a$78269900$5b0d84d0@korgx3>

    >for a Dream Theater show. Anyway, they did play Nightmare Cinema, which
    >came about spontaneously due to Mike frantic "NIGHTMARE CINEMA" cries to
    >powers that be. (Thanks mike for listening!)

    Sweet! I'd heard Nightmare Cinema had broken up. I was afraid I'd never
    see them on tour. :)

    Now if they'd only get back with Nicky Lemons, things would be O-tay!

    Last I heard Nicky was pimpin' his ass off in Nevada. I oughtta go look his
    feathery ass up.

    Hasta chinchitos!

    --
    Korgito jalisco chimichanga no con arroz, por favor...  er...  X-Tres.
    

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:28:05 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Damon review / new Ytsejam MP3 Message-ID: <36874F25.FE7CEE61@mol.com.mk>

    Is it just me or the new MP3 of Ytsejam from Kanagawa, Japan 1/10/98 is mono, on one speaker only???

    > From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> > Subject: Blind man's review of 12/26/98 Birch Hill show > > Hell, I didn't care, hearing Rush cover Different Strings, and > Since I've been loving you was enough for me,

    Is that the Zeppelin tune???? Wow! No way! That's new! Did they play it some other time ....?

    I just can't imagine James singing this song! :) I think this song is one of the most difficult for singing. The animal Robert Plant does an awesome job there, on the studio version.

    How did James turn out? :) --

    CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:06:28 +0100 From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Signed Copy of Chroma Key Message-ID: <199812281307.OAA21642@online.no>

    For all of you that haven't gotten hold of Chroma Key's "Dead air for Radios" yet, order it from http://www.chromakey.com now to get a signed copy.

    Mo(o)re information on http://www.chromakey.com/news.htm

    This is a great CD, and it gets alot of playtime in my CDplayer. Mike Portnoy seems to like it too, and his taste for music is great!

    Mike's top ten: Here's my top 10 (in no particular order...): 1. Liquid Tension Experiment (shameless plug) 2. Chroma Key - Dead Air for Radios (continues on the NEWS section of UACM)

    They would have my order if I didn't already have it!

    Jonas Opsal

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:42:32 -0600 From: yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: woohoo!! Message-ID: <4.1.19981228084115.00939670@mail.earthlink.net>

    do you know what's better than getting the dtifc subscription for a Christmas gift?

    it's getting 2 dtifc subscriptions. *grin*

    i can hardly wait.

    yzzy

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    Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:25:08 -0500 From: "Penna, John:" <jpenna1@tosco.com> To: "'DT list'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: BirchHill scum Message-ID: <61718AF07E9DD111A52C0000F6AC40F501269F33@brcntx01.brc.ref.tosco.com>

    season's greetings all,

    well, i don't contribute much, but i feel like i must.

    i was at the Birchhill show the other. the guys were great! the show was great. the whole intimate, informal atitude was fantastic. they were there for us. doing different stuff, rare stuff.

    but you know what really amazes me?? there these two dipshits standing behind me, and all they were doing was calling Derek names, saying " Derek, you're fucked", "you suck Derek", "Derek's a homo" , "Kevin Moore rules" and things like. then they were complaining about the songs that DT were playing. one of the comments on that subject was like "sure, why not play some more shit from the new album". i presume they were referring to 'Infinity.

    these assholes were distracting to me and others around us. if you don't like members of the band and/or their material, what the hell were you doing there? obviously the band liked Derek and his playing enough to make him a member of the band. he's been in the band for what now, 4 years? get over it!! Kevin left of his own freewill (no RUSH referrel there). if Kevin rules so much, why ain't he ripping out album after album? Please no Kevin flames, i like him too, but he's out of the band and hasn't done much since. i bet if Rick Wakeman became the keyboardist for DT, some you would still complain. get over it, stay home and don't ruin the show for the rest of us!

    Happy New Year!

    --JP the mad immortal man....

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