YTSEJAM Digest 4528

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    Today's Topics:

      1) SymX in the paper! NDTC
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
      2) Christmas CD 98
     by Rob en Ellen Meijer <robellen@dds.nl>
      3) Re: BirchHill scum
     by "Penna, John:" <jpenna1@tosco.com>
      4) Younique
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      5) IRVING.
     by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
      6) missing persons at philly
     by kimpy <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu>
      7) birch hill
     by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
      8) Re: birch hill
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
      9) DTIFC Christmas CD info - please read.
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
     10) New Haven show
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     11) Toad's Place show (some SPOILERS)
     by psull@ici.net
     12) Help
     by Jordi Gen? Mateu <merma@telcel.net.ve>
     13) Re: Help
     by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
     14) Boots Wanted
     by Dave <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
     15) DT ballad / Chroma Key
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     16) Ytsejammer band playing in New York
     by "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com>
     17) Birch Hill Show was Awesome
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     18) Re: BirchHill scum
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:37:42 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: SymX in the paper! NDTC
    Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3905@ms.kallback.com>

    This was in my little Seattle suburb newspaper this morning.
    It was an article about what musicians are listening to.

    Chuck Schuldiner, the guitarist for Death, a band that has upheld
    the extreme metal tradition for 15 years: "I still listen to my wall of
    vinyl-Kiss, Iron Maiden. I tend to listen to more of the old than the
    new, but of course I keep up with the new. I heard the new Slayer
    and it sounded a little like Korn, which worried me a bit, but I'll
    probably pick it up and give it a chance...also, Symphony X-they're
    getting no acknowledgment at all, but they're a terrific band."

    I almost filled my Depends when I read that. :)
    Trevor

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:45:02 +0100
    From: Rob en Ellen Meijer <robellen@dds.nl>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Christmas CD 98
    Message-ID: <3688C0BD.20FB6665@dds.nl>

    Just received the Christmas CD, wow what a collection it is!!! Brings
    back the fabulous evening in Nighttown, Rotterdam, just listen to the
    tracks, maybe you will get the same feeling that we had that night. It
    was damn hot there, but DT gave us cold shivers with this great
    performance!!! Thanks to anyone involved with the Christmas CD, what a
    gift!! Thanks to DT, thanks for the wonderful music you gave us and
    hopefully will give us next year!! We hope that you in the States who
    can visit the After Christmas shows get the same kinda show we had in
    Rotterdam, it will be a great night! Shame on the pitiful people still
    walking around that do not understand... (see the reviews of 12/26/1998
    show).

    Have a great 1999!

    Rob and Ellen Meijer

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:47:18 -0500
    From: "Penna, John:" <jpenna1@tosco.com>
    To: "'DT list'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: BirchHill scum
    Message-ID: <61718AF07E9DD111A52C0000F6AC40F501269F44@brcntx01.brc.ref.tosco.com>

    Carlos Alfaro & Dr. Mosh wrote:

    > Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Penna, John:" thus begged:
    > >
    >
    > [much bitching clipped]
    > So, why don't you just go over there and tell them to shuttup??
    >
    > -The Doc
    >
    > -

        Exactly my point! As I was commenting with you Doc, me, if i had
    been there
    i wouldve kicked some unapreciative drunk ass! I mean hell.. weren
    there like..
    5 or 6 jammers together? 2 jerks like that woulve been hella quiet!
    ---------------------

    DUH!! never said i did or didn't ask them to shut up. but for the
    record, I DID! they
    knocked it off temporarily and started up again. couple others around
    also requested them
    to knock it off to no avail. also, i was not with anyone i came with,
    being that i found the perfect
    spot to check out the show....i was on my own. and that's just what i
    wanna do, start a fight, the
    day after Christmas, with two nimrods and my ass thrown out and miss the
    show and freeze my
    ass off waiting for my friends to come out. perhaps if you bad ass
    jammers were with me, you
    could've handled it for us frail ones.........geeez. just another reason
    i don't contribute to this thing, all
    anyone does is bitch at everyone else no matter what is said.

    much later........

    --JP
    the mad immortal man...

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:59:53 -0500
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Younique
    Message-ID: <3688FC79.AEB01846@caribe.net>

        Can anyone tell me where i can order this online with a credit card?

    Thankx!

         "[...] people will cringe..." - John Petrucci

                   In the stream of consciousness
                      There is a river crying
                       Living comes much easier
                     Once we admit , We're dying.
                   Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
                   http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
             Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service
          mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com
               Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:03:59 -0500
    From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@mail.ptd.net>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net, themirror@egroups.com
    Subject: IRVING.
    Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981229110359.00a40624@postoffice.ptd.net>

    For those of you who will be there, look for someone with short dark hair,
    a blue silk shirt (an FII tour shirt underneath), and blue jeans ... I will
    be in the front row ... I will also be hanging out outside the venue
    earlier on in the day, from around 3 to 6 ... hope to see a few of you
    there. Can't wait for the show!

    ~Brian

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:43:01 -0500
    From: kimpy <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: missing persons at philly
    Message-ID: <36890695.12FD@vwc.edu>

    Sav inquired:

    >where was tempus?! and pete and jaime?!

    Looking for YOU! We were down on the floor for a bit before the show,
    up in the bar near the stairs for the first half of the show, then with
    Skadz and crew for the second half.

    Apparently we were the only ones to spot the almighty Tempus... we gave
    him a ride back to the hotel at his request (so yell at him, not us!
    ;), then came back to the Electric Factory to see if we could find you
    and Scotty and hung out behind the venue with the other jammers, where I
    finally got to meet the rare and mythical being known as Hairball. We
    left shortly after the Boston crew... it was chilly and it'd been a
    really hectic week/end, so I was pretty wiped out.

    It was great to meet all y'all at those three shows... it was good to
    finally put faces to names that I've known for as long as four years
    now...

    The funniest part of the weekend was AFTER the New Haven show: we
    stopped at a 24 hr McDonalds on I-95 maybe fifteen minutes out of NH to
    get a drink... as we were about to leave, John Petrucci walks out of the
    bathroom. :)

    I was too amused.

    It was a great weekend... I'm looking forward to seeing some of you
    again sometime in the future. :)

    Jaime (that Dragon person)
    ---------------------
    http://home.interpath.net/jkimpton/

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:00:19 PST
    From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: birch hill
    Message-ID: <19981229170020.7678.qmail@hotmail.com>

    well,

            first of all I never thought there would be a Steve Vai album with a
    parental advisory explicit lyrics sticker on it.

    Then it was really nice to meet all you guys, although I didn't get all
    the names. To the guy with the bandana, who also likes/or dislikes the
    teaser of A fortune in lies, I realized I dislike the LitS teaser way
    more, because that's one of my favs.

    Now regarding the show I'll post something controversial. This was
    definitely my least faorite DT experience, based on several factors.
    Now, we are thankful that they play during the holidays. Me that is.
    Nobody forces them, nobody forces me to go there. Unplugged.
    Athmospheric - fine by me. But - after waiting for 3 1/2 hours I got
    tired. One point of criticism is the video. They didn't have to show all
    of it. Where was the merch, where were DTIFC flyers? I was just too
    tired after standing so long to appreciate a quiet and slow set
    (besides, the keys were not loud enough IMO). I wouldn't dare generalize
    and say that I only like heavy stuff, but I didn't catch the spark. Now
    Chris and I had a great time laughing about JP and Eve and thought at
    many points"well,ok he can play'(although I tend to find his fast
    repatative chromatic (when he improvises) a little too simple. I don't
    need lydian either, it just sounds boring to me. Just bend a note
    instead. MOre moody. shut up. get out... ) and I was banging my head
    although d-man said before that that'd be a nono, but hey, they are
    still my fav band.

    I think I've written quite a load of shit now and eventually proven to
    write incongruent and totally out of context, but hey, I just outed
    myself to not being a Rush fan, not even being able to recognize the
    voice of whoever sings(neil?) and embarressing myself with wearing a
    Budwiser cap with stickers on it.

    What the hell do you expect.

    seb"the hat"

    ______________________________________________________
    Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:24:41 -0500 (EST)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
    To: Schnipp - <schnipp@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: birch hill
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981229122356.10058A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > tired. One point of criticism is the video. They didn't have to show all
    > of it. Where was the merch, where were DTIFC flyers? I was just too

            Don't even get me started on the merch. :) No one knows where
    they are. As for the DTiFC flyers, they were there - I put them there
    myself.

     - mike, dtifc.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
          erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:34:08 -0500 (EST)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
    To: A Ytse Besides Itself <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: DTIFC Christmas CD info - please read.
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981229122443.10058B-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    Just wanted to pass this along -

            There are no more christmas discs. those who have sent in the
    money by 12/31/98 i cannot guarantee. i can guarantee those who have sent
    in their money (and I have received as well as deposited/cleared their
    check) by 12/28. People who's checks are received on the 29th, 30th, or
    the 31st - if we have discs left, you'll get them. Otherwise, you won't
    be.

            My only advice to you guys who chose to wait until the last minute
    is "you guys should have sent in your stuff earlier and not waited for the
    last minute."

            <shrug>

     - mike, dtifc director: north, central, and south america.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
          erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:57:15 -0500 (EST)
    From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: New Haven show
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981229125308.23382A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    Because of my idiotic parents, I had to miss the New Haven show. My
    friend and I were going to go last night, but I was stuck in
    Massachusett's until yesterday afternoon, and there would have been no way
    for me to get everything organized to make it there.

    Needless to say, I am very peeved that what would have been my first DT
    concert was one that I had to miss.

    I wonder when DT will be touring after this. How come there aren't any
    Albany shows? My friend lives in Bennington, VT (I'm from Springfield,
    across the state), and we figured there'd be at least one Albany holiday
    show, but there weren't any scheduled. What a bummer.

    Hey Mike - if you're reading this, I WILL make it there at one point, and
    I'm going to meet you and praise you five properly as a new fan should!

    -------------------------------------------
    Andrew Coutermarsh
    a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu
    http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/
    ICQ: 2513441
    -------------------------------------------
    "In the New Year, hold your right hand out
    always in friendship, but never in want."
      -- Irish toast
    -------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:03:01 -0500
    From: psull@ici.net
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Toad's Place show (some SPOILERS)
    Message-ID: <199812291753.MAA02107@bajor.ici.net>

    Well, *that* was an experience - and not just
    the drive. I'm still not quite coherent enough
    to do a full review, but here are some random
    musings.

    - The pre-show ytse-gathering was interesting,
    even though the mighty Skadz didn't get there
    until the rest of us were done eating. Oh, and
    then there was Madsman, who wasn't told by the
    waitress that his plate was hot until *after* he
    burned his hand on it. Much hilarity ensued,
    unless you are the aformentioned waitress (who
    will probably never look at a Majesty symbol the
    same again). And before anyone shows any
    sympathy for the waitress, trust me - she
    deserved whatever she got. Her motto: "Service
    with a smirk".

    - The venue: it was an 18-plus show, but rather
    than using wristbands, they actually netted off
    an area of the club for the under-21's. The end
    result was that if you weren't old enough to
    drink, you couldn't get up near the stage, or
    even out in front. Personally I think that
    sucks, even though I was not personally affected.

    - Cool moment: The bathrooms at Toad's are
    downstairs, and you have to go by the dressing
    room to get to it. We heard a huge cheer from
    the crowd on our way back, and someone says
    "What the hell are they cheering for? It's just
    a fucking movie!". We turn, and it's none other
    than Mike Portnoy, poking out of the dressing
    room.

    - The show: Let me tell you, it was great to
    finally here some of these DT rarities performed
    live. My faves: Eve, Where Are You Now (first
    time performed live), TWIUTB (*how* did this
    song not get onto FII??), Hey You, and Paradigm
    Shift - which closed out the show nicely on an
    upbeat.

    All in all, an excellent show - exactly what
    I've come to expect from these guys. As I siad
    (to myself) in the car on the drive down,
    there's not too many bands I'd drive that far to
    see, but with DT, it's pretty much a no-brainer
    that you'll get your money's worth.
    ___Pat Sullivan_______________
    Email: psull@ici.net
    ICQ: 23499229
    WWW: http://www.just-like.nu

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    Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:08:53 -0400
    From: Jordi Gen? Mateu <merma@telcel.net.ve>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Help
    Message-ID: <3673CA75.793C@telcel.net.ve>

    Can someone explain to me what is all about with the song in OIAL
    called Puppies on Acid is that a new song or the intro of The
    Mirror.....??????????????????

    Jordi

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:07:45 -0500 (EST)
    From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
    To: Jordi Gen? Mateu <merma@telcel.net.ve>
    Subject: Re: Help
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981229160655.1490A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>

    > Can someone explain to me what is all about with the song in OIAL
    > called Puppies on Acid is that a new song or the intro of The
    > Mirror.....??????????????????

            Both.

            "Puppies On Acid" has been around since the I&W days. They used
    it live as the into to "Take The Time", if I'm not mistaken. Later,
    during the Awake sessions, they wrote "The Mirror" using POA as the
    starting point.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
          erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:15:48 -0500
    From: Dave <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Boots Wanted
    Message-ID: <199812292213.RAA29611@promail1.ee.net>

    If you have any of the original DT Bahr boots, (or maybe some others
    for that matter) in GOOD condition (no cracks, no scratches), WITH the
    liners,
    and you want to sell them, please contact me:

    dhatlee@dhpc.com

    I'm also interested in DT promotional items etc....

    Thanks!

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:41:29 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: DT ballad / Chroma Key
    Message-ID: <36892259.1B83733B@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:59:04 +0100
    > From: "Jan Opsal" <janopsal@online.no>
    > To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    > Subject: DT on "Even more POWER Ballads"
    > The CD was called "Even more POWER Ballads" and had
    > 4. DREAM THEATER - another day
    >
    > Are there more compilation albums with DT on?

    I saw one, but it could be a Bulgharian bootleg! Folks, ya dont have a
    clue how many ballads or best rock bootlegs CDs appear here! :)

    Anyone, the one I held in my hands had the "Space Dye Vest"! I laughed
    when I saw it, 'cause even though it;s a ballad, it just ain't typical
    DT ballad stuff!

    Just in case ..... Kevin rules! :)

    I heard few comparitions of Chroma Key with Peter Gabriel! Can someone
    firmly familiar with both explain me the similarities! I LOVE Gabriel
    but still didn't hear Chroma Key! :(
    Private mail will do just fine!

    -- 
    

    CyberDuke _______________________________________________________ Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722 _______________________________________________________

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:14:57 -0500 From: "Kevin Rackley" <KRackley@weidmuller.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ytsejammer band playing in New York Message-ID: <s6891c2a.060@weidmuller.com>

    I know this isn't really exciting to most of you, but my band is playing = the Lion's Den in New York city this weekend. If anyone has any informatio= n about the venue or would like to come see us, e-mail me. Look forward = to hearing from you.

    Kevin Rackley Official Soul Reason Website http://members.aol.com/rackleyk/

    Currently in the car's changer:

    1.) Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite 2.) Modern Drummer HOT TRAX CD=20 3.) Empty Tremor - Apocolokyntosys 4.) Terry Bozzio - Drawing the Circle 5.) Rammstein - Sehnsucht 6.) Dream Theater - 1998 DTIFC CD

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:31:17 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Birch Hill Show was Awesome Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981229182622.27523B-100000@espy>

    I just want to say that I feel lucky to have gone to one of the holiday shows. James Labrie was absolutely amazing, especially with the Zep tune! I one wish that they would have played one of my personal favourites "Take Away My Pain"> Perhaps one of these days I will get to hear that masterpiece performed live!

    Anyway, everyone put together a great show. I wish I could have met the band to express my thanks! Derek was awesome, Labrie was awesom, Myung was awesome, Portnoy was awesome, and Petrucci was awesome :)

    I also got to see Damon in line.. but then he disapeared.

    Well. sorry for the incoherence,.. I am on two days without sleep and there is a nice little snowstorm outside.

    Cheers everyone!

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    Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:50:04 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: BirchHill scum Message-ID: <199812300150.RAA22226@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Penna, John:" thus begged: > >DUH!! never said i did or didn't ask them to shut up. but for the >record, I DID! they >knocked it off temporarily and started up again. couple others around >also requested them >to knock it off to no avail. also, i was not with anyone i came with, >being that i found the perfect >spot to check out the show....i was on my own. and that's just what i >wanna do, start a fight, the

    Tell you what, if yer having trouble during an East Coast DT show... go in search for Jesus... usually... finding Jesus will be your solution, cause usually Jesus is hanging out with the two saints of DT crowd pacification, their names would be Chris Merlo and Doug Ruggerrio, if these two guys don't intimidate said knuckleheads, you've got a whole together other trouble on your hands, cause those two guys are mutants...

    -The Doc

    -- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.

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