YTSEJAM Digest 3542
Today's Topics:
1) Stuff
by Nicholas Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
2) Re: Stuff
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
3) The Scoop On "Metropolis II"
by "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
4) Mr. Big (was Re: FAQs & Clubs & Kitchens)
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
5) Re: Queensryche
by Awake77@aol.com
6) Re: HELL VIRUS
by Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@sek.uib.no>
7) My Symphony X Review
by Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
8) MII radio edit
by a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org>
9) Re: Queensryche
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
10) This sentence is censored.
by Michael and Melissa Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
11) damon! boooooo
by Thrak75@aol.com
12) Re: MII radio edit
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
13) Re: Dream Theater: Home Sweet Home and Live in Long Island Cd's
by erodger@fore.com
14) Portnoy crap thing snd cymbals
by DrummerEsh@aol.com
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3540
by Toneadd9@aol.com
16) Virus (NDTC)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
17) New Fates Warning Tour Dates
by Michael_R_Kizer@csc.com
18) Reminder: the YtseCD mailing list
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:47:08 -0500
From: Nicholas Giannotti <nickg@gis.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <199802061440.JAA01318@ns2.gis.net>
I just got my first listen to To Live Forever (THANK YOU!!!). The only
things I can think of:
a) these harmonies SUCK. :) Only kidding! They rock.
b) Ripping, RIPPING guitar solo!
c) WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE? I know I have. And it wasn't at a show,
either. I wanna say I heard this in a movie or on TV or something....
Also, I need email addresses for the following people:
Jon Kretchmer (sp?) (Sorry, you know who you are. :) )
Notorious B.I.G.
Someone else who requested the parody.
I don't have your addies here, and I couldn't send the parody from home
last night. My Bad. Sorry!
-Nicholas
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 11:14:43 -0400
From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Stuff
Message-ID: <34DB28E2.C531073A@caribe.net>
Nicholas Giannotti wrote:
> I just got my first listen to To Live Forever (THANK YOU!!!). The only
> things I can think of:
>
> a) these harmonies SUCK. :) Only kidding! They rock.
> b) Ripping, RIPPING guitar solo!
>
Am i the only one on this list that doesnt really care much for TLF? (imo,
its just a simple rock song...granted the solo rules..but the song is nothing
to be so excited about..imo again)
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:37:39 -0500
From: "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Scoop On "Metropolis II"
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John talks about the uncertainty of releasing "Metropolis II", and a lot
more.
Catch Ya Later,
Matt
Heavy Metal at The Mining Company
http://heavymetal.miningco.com
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 10:44:25 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mr. Big (was Re: FAQs & Clubs & Kitchens)
Message-ID: <199802061544.KAA29072@il.cs.wm.edu>
> Anyone who recognizes names like "John Alderette" or "Pat Torpey" or "Bruce
> Boulliet" may be interested, not to mention names like "Paul" and "Gilbert."
Can anyone who recognizes the names "Mr." and "Big" tell me anything they
might know about the band? I've heard rumors (in varying degrees of
credibility) that Billy Sheehan is working with DLR again, which, I suppose,
signals the end. Anyone have more solid info about Billy, DLR, or Mr. Big?
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:24:55 EST
From: Awake77@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche
Message-ID: <249fe6f.34db5579@aol.com>
I actually heard a rumor that Nuno Bettencourt is replacing DeGarmo!! Can you
imagine?
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:46:23 GMT+1
From: Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@sek.uib.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: HELL VIRUS
Message-ID: <9585924689@humanistisk.hd.uib.no>
> Does Hell's kitchen remind you of the song???
LOL!
We've got Hell's Kitchen right on this floor, I mean, you have to see
the stuff that is growing in there!
Fortunately, it wasn't my week to do the dishes. :-)
> PS: Is your Soul burning yet?
Yeah! I've got to go down to the pub and have some beer to cool down.
Maybe I'll score when I show the chicks my YTSEBRANDING!
Later!
Kyrre
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 10:52:19 -0800
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My Symphony X Review
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980206105219.006a8794@bhansen1.pobox.stanford.edu>
Well, after all of the rave reviews here about Symphony X, I ordered "The
Divine Wings of Tragedy". I've had it for a couple of weeks now, so here's
my impression. Maybe this will help anyone thinking about ordering it.
---Overall rating: Thumbs Up
First of all, let me split some hairs on musical categories. I would categorize this disc as neoclassical, not progressive. This may be good or bad, depending on your preference. Being a former card-carrying member of the "Cult of Yngwie", this recording is somewhat nostalgic for me. I couldn't help but think that this disc could easily be a new Yngwie line-up (if Yngwie somehow regained his earlier creative energy).
Of course Dream Theater has many moments that are reminiscent of Yngwie, but they are fewer, and usually modified enough not to put Dream Theater in the same neoclassical subcategory as Yngwie (and Symphony X). In the same way, The Divine Wings of Tragedy has moments that remind me of Dream Theater. This is when the keyboards occasionally pop up to the front. Not enough to place it in the same category as DT though. The Yngwie influence is much more dominant.
Some thoughts on the individual parts:
Vocals: Good, in the same group as Dio, Joe Lynn Turner, Zak Stevens (Savatage), and most Yngwie singers. Some interesting vocal arrangements, similar to Savatage or Queen.
Guitar: Good, although sometimes they get stuck on just pounding out simple metal chords (Powermetal?). Very capable when it's time to solo.
Keys: Good, excellent when they play a larger part, ala Dream Theater. A little boring when they start doing the standard neoclassical harpsichord riffs.
Bass and Drums: I'm putting them together, because I'm not sure who to blame here. I'm not a drummer, but it seems to me that this guy is a one trick pony. Way too much double bass speed playing. I just don't hear the finesse that you have with Peart, Portney, Zonder, Craddick, etc. This may be combined with the bass player pounding away as fast as possible. It's just overkill on this recording, and tends to detract from an otherwise excellent disc. It doesn't matter as much when listening through headphones, which don't reproduce the lows well, but when listening on my home stereo (where the speakers go down to 26Hz), it starts to get pretty irritating. Yngwie's drummers also tended to do this, and I was never fond of it then, either.
Production, Cover Art, Lyrics, etc.: All very professional. No cheese here.
Overall rating: Thumbs up.
With a warning to prog listeners that this is more Yngwie than Marillion. And you better like your speed...
- BH
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MII radio edit Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980206140746.245289A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
> Don't worry. I hear they're going to going to release a 4:34 radio edit > of Metropolis II.
It wouldn't be unheard of. After all, Yes released a few minute long edit of the side-long "The Gates of Delerium."
(everyone together: "Soon, oh soooooooon the liiiiiiight")
-=- "Where do you want Bill Gates to go today?" (stolen .sig)
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 07:18:17 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Queensryche Message-ID: <34DB7009.CBDE89B6@sydney.net>
Awake77@aol.com wrote: > > I actually heard a rumor that Nuno Bettencourt is replacing DeGarmo!! Can you > imagine?
Nah it's total bullshit, that rumour started here and the guy has 'admitted' that it was a so called joke.
graham
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 13:25:47 -0700 From: Michael and Melissa Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> To: uroborosss@aol.com Subject: This sentence is censored. Message-ID: <34DB71CB.792C@goodnet.com>
This Sentence is Censored...
Back when I was the FAQ maintainer (it happened! Believe it! I was the first, because nobody else had bothered to write up a FAQ at the time!) I put in a little blurb about where James had come from. I mentioned Winter Rose, and said they were a typical bullshit glam band more concerned with their Vidal Sassoon and their Maybelline than with the music they made, which was terribly tired and cliche, so much so that the music of WASP, Ratt, and Poison seemed fresh and innovative by comparison. There was more, but you get the point.
At this time, our DT net contact was Mike Corso, ("C-man"). from C-Notes interactive. He contacted me with a ton of faq "correction requests from the band". Which I now know are NOT from the band because Mike Portnoy's later corrections superseded Corso's corrections. Anyway, he said that if the band was going to work together with me on getting the info out, that I would have to remove that offensive paragraph about Winter Rose. This is regardless of the fact that it was pure opinion (but pretty accurate opinion if you know what I mean). Anyway, at the time we were so thirsty as a Jam for any official info we could get, that I willingly deleted the blurb, but not without a final ironic contextual headstone to mark its grave: "This sentence is censored". Sort of like the question "Am I asleep yet?" in context. "_
I actually thought Jason Skewes, then Chris Merlo, and now Pat Griffin might nuke the sentence, but I'm glad to see that they didn't, because it now served to tell some of you about the Ytsejam of years past and what things were like before the band took an active interest in keeping us informed. Heck, this post ought to go in the FAQ just to explain it! Hahah, just kidding, not necessary.
Hope this answers your question. Take care!! :)
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:40:25 EST From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: damon! boooooo Message-ID: <103fb23a.34db753c@aol.com>
damon:
i had a mild erection when i saw that you had posted, and i was hoping you'd have a ton of criticisms to my post. but...
In a message dated 2/5/98 16:59:31, you wrote:
>OK, dave, your criticism of mind drive is valid. maybe I just get an >erection over cool time sigs and keyboard solos.
*sniff* so much for picking a fight. *smirk*
by the way- this is for the aol jammers. have any of you been getting the jams in all sorts of fucked up ways? like i got the most recent one, written in PURPLE and GREEN! skadz? any idea, or is aol being a bunch of piss-ants again?
ytsegoon (koba, wild.)
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi the new york law school thrak75@aol.com
"i'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints." -on the wall at tripwire's ************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:52:32 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: MII radio edit Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980206185216.5436D-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, a thing with a voice wrote:
> "Where do you want Bill Gates to go today?" (stolen .sig)
Eat some pies.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 16:01:44 -0500 From: erodger@fore.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater: Home Sweet Home and Live in Long Island Cd's Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980206160144.00c571f0@mailhost.eng.fore.com>
Status Seeker isn't really on these. It's really Pull Me Under, severely mislabled.
KAI
At 07:24 PM 2/5/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Hello.. >I would like to sell the following DT live CD's. >They are $25 each SHIPPING INCLUDED. They are: > >DREAM THEATER - HOME SWEET HOME >Live in October 1992 - Spark's Club (Long Island, NY) >Under A Glass Moon, Only a Matter of Time, Surrounded, >Status Seeker, The Ytsejam, Guitar Solo (Moon Bubbles), >Another Day, The Killing Hand. > >DREAM THEATER- LIVE IN LONG ISLAND >Live in October 1992 - Spark's Club (Long Island, NY) >Intro, Metropolis Part I, Under a Glass Moon, Only >A Matter of Time, Surrounded, Status Seeker, The Ytsejam, >Guitar Solo (Moon Bubbles), Another Day, The Killing >Hand. > >NOTE - These 2 Cd's are the SAME SHOW!...If you want to see >what the front and back liners look like you can surf on over >to my webpage at: http://nw3.nai.net/~axe/dt98.htm > >If you are interested please email me at axe@ct1.nai.net >First come, First Serve!! > >--Tim-- > >axe@ct1.nai.net > > >
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:23:08 EST From: DrummerEsh@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Portnoy crap thing snd cymbals Message-ID: <6154ffb9.34db7f3e@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-06 07:32:39 EST, you write:
<< Now, about that Portnoy crap thing... that would be a neat idea, but can a 256-color Web page REALLY show the accurate shade? >>
Hey fellow jammers. I have been away from the jam for a while and now i come back to see people are talking about this Portnoy crap color thing. Can someone please email me and tell me what thats all about??
>Richard A. Rivera wrote: >He and I can litterally spend HOURS arguing back and forth about >the relative merits of Sabian and Paiste.
>Don't you two know that those both suck and Zildjian kicks major ASS!
In my opinion i love Sabian i think it has a great rage of pitch to choose from to match any style of playing. I gues its whatever sounds best to your own ear..oh well thats my 2 cents.
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:31:43 EST From: Toneadd9@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3540 Message-ID: <aab82300.34db8143@aol.com>
any one w info on the CD Looper please private mail me
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 18:10:48 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Virus (NDTC) Message-ID: <34DB9878.77FE87CB@ameritech.net>
>I just received a message from somebody i trust very much that warns of >a new, very dangerous, computer virus. if you get any messages with a >subject of 'join the crew' do not open it! it could erase your hard >drive! Also, beware of 'unable to deliver to adressee'
The guy who posted this isn't kidding. I got the same info from a very good, non-BS source.
- Joe D.
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:09:00 -0700 From: Michael_R_Kizer@csc.com To: ytsejam@ax.com, freaks@ax.com Subject: New Fates Warning Tour Dates Message-ID: <072565A3.007F06AB.00@cscmail.csc.com>
Straight from Metal Blade: Itinerary as of 2/6 4/10 Anaheim, CA 4/11 Hollywood, CA 4/16 Amsterdam, Netherlands 4/17 Tilburg, Netherlands 4/18 Baarlo, (sp ?) Netherlands 4/19 Voselaar, Belgium 4/22 Beilla, Italy (just outside Milan !) The rest of the shows will be in Germany and perhaps Austria or Switzerland.
~Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com> <ICQ # 2070538> Home Page / AZ Concerts Mailing List - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw Dream Theater "Unofficial" Song Book - http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/dt ~Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit~
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 23:46:30 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Reminder: the YtseCD mailing list Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980206233151.7633A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Hi, people.
Well, we'd like to take this time to remind you that the e-mail address to subscribe to the YtseCD mailing list is: <rbrito-ytsecd-request@linux.ime.usp.br>. To subscribe, just send an empty message with subject SUBSCRIBE (the same applies to unsubscribe from the list, with UNSUBSCRIBE instead of SUBSCRIBE, of course).
Send your posts to <rbrito-ytsecd@linux.ime.usp.br> (please, notice that it is a different address than the subscription one).
Our mailing list has a relatively good movement, given that there are only 29 people subscribed (and the most frequent poster isn't me). I understand this as a signal that people are indeed interested in this voluntary project and that is has one of the principal things to a project be concluded: passion.
In other words: it's working!
We have decided that the CD won't be a tribute CD and that bands will be sending their creations to the CD (it was "voted"). This way, both the listeners will be exposed to new material and the bands will have a chance of showing their work (also, there's the satisfaction of working as a group -- and even more than this, we're working as an INTERNATIONAL group).
Please, if you can contribute with anything (ideas, music, artwork, burning CDs, sending light bulb jokes to the list :-)) ), we'd appreciate your help. Even if you want to be with "lurking mode ON", you're welcome.
Thank you very much for your attention, Rogerio...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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