YTSEJAM Digest 3556
Today's Topics:
1) DT News of the week!
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
2) RE: waterfront weirdos
by Sorsa Tanja <Tanja.Sorsa@avena.fi>
3) Re:Visions of Europe
by "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
4) I have, you want?
by Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
5) Steve L's Pictures
by MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca (MacAusland, Robert: HFX)
6) Black Jester Fan !!
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
7) new web pages
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
8) stuff stuff stuff
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) Hi, MIKE BAHR !!!
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
10) DT tape from Jan. show...
by O-P Komonen <op777@mail.surffi.net>
11) Re: DT video game theme covers
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
12) Oh, my fookin' god!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
13) Anti-Spam Laws (NDTC)
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
14) Camel, Renaissance
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
15) Ozzy
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3555
by ReikiFox@aol.com
17) NDTC: Bootleg Equipment
by Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu>
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:28:13 -0700
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT News of the week!
Message-ID: <01bd3aa4$0eb48100$2d0d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
I almost saw this in the Enquirer when I was sleepwalking after dropping
some bad acid. Yeesh.
Washington D.C. (AP) -- Shocking new evidence has been presented in the
Presidential sexual harassment case which involves the president showing an
accidental case of admiration for another man.
Apparently while campaigning his anti-gang/violence program in New York City
last week, un undisclosed source proclaimed that the President calmly walked
up behind one long haired individual and nonchalantly pinched their
buttocks. The President was surprised to see that his victim sported a
goatee and had several tatoos on his bulging arms. Mike Portnoy (drummer
for the Heavy Metal band Dream Theatre) was shocked to turn around and see
his nation's leader lying upon the pavement after he'd place a solid right
hook across the President's jaw. Portnoy's wife Marlene chuckled aout the
incident saying, "He picked the right butt to pinch!" while Portnoy admits
that the long hair has often caused such mistakes to happen before. Fellow
bandmate Derek Sherinian (keyboards), who witnessed the event stated,
"Monica Lewinsky eat your heart out. You think you're all that, but Mr.
President likes 'em big an' beefy." The President was unable to be reached
for comment.
Disclaimer: The previous is a case of fiction created in the author's mind.
The author does not actually exist in this reality and therefore, was unable
to be reached for comment.
--KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:38:23 +0200
From: Sorsa Tanja <Tanja.Sorsa@avena.fi>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: waterfront weirdos
Message-ID: <F12B2785885AD1118687000629866EED030A37@AVENAEXC>
> -Vilzu - wrote:=20
>=20
> P.S.Finnish jammers, chack out a band called Waterfront
> Weirdos.Believe=20
> me, it=B4s worth it.
[Tanja] I'll definitely second that thought. Waterfront Weirdos
is a *very* good prog rock band (and friends of mine...uh huh) who have
just released a self-financed CD ep. For more info (reviews of their
previous demos etc) on the band surf to:
http://www.aanekoski.fi/musiikki/weirdos/ =20
Tanja / Tenze
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tanja.sorsa@avena.fi
tenze@hotmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~Tenze/
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Date: 16 Feb 98 14:54:01 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re:Visions of Europe
Message-ID: <00212005080000010103EB875F042E@mail.logisware.fi>
Greetings ye jamanoids....
Arash Ashouriha wrote:
>Statovarius will release a live 2 CD in March/April.
>The tilte should be "Visions Of Europe".
>I don't know if this album will be availible in USA are not.
Well, thank you Arash. Now, why do you post old information? :)
Those interested can take a peek at the album cover at Noise
Records' web site. http://www.noiserecords.com.
>HAS ANYBODY HEARD THE BAND "BLACK JESTER" ?
Sure. A wee bit DT-ish Italian prog band. Their album "Welcome to the
Moonlight Circus" is nothing to get too excited about. I stick with my
Nocturnal Rites (which FYI _IS_ power metal) for now, thank you.
>NP : Empty Tremor - Apocolokyntosys and Spock's Beard - The Kindness Of ...
Weird dude. I only can listen to one CD at a time. :)
_Mape_
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:44:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I have, you want?
Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.95.980216113922.-484209A-100000@edesobe.resnet.emory.edu>
Just wanted to let people know if they want a pretty good FII boot, I just
got the Hartford show 1/2/98. The sound is pretty solid. In comparison
to the fix for 96 boot I made for everyone last year, the sound is a
little better. The set on this show rocks, as those that were there can
attest. "The Silent Man", "You Not Me", "Lie" are all on there. And as a
bonus (though I haven't listened to it yet, so ask me about the sound) I
have "Ytsejam", "New Millennium", "Metropolis" and... Nightmare Cinemna on
tape from the Irving Plaza Show.
Thus if you want to trade, email me. I have no clue as to the demand on
this one, but I must warn you I am only doing about 7-8 trades because I
have no money and little tapes. College sucks for tape trading. So, I
will only two blank tapes trade at 4 to 2 and the rest will be show for
show. Let me know if anyone is interested. Take the time.
-Eric
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:56:13 -0500
From: MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca (MacAusland, Robert: HFX)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (ytsejam)
Subject: Steve L's Pictures
Message-ID: <1998Feb16.104726.1255.1987972@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
Way cool pics!
And btw Steve - you look so much like John Petrucci I'd swear your were his
evil twin brother :-)
(see the bottom of Steve's web page for details)
R.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:02:38 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Cc: "'ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE'" <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
Subject: Black Jester Fan !!
Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9F01080B2A@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> Here some info for all Powermetal fans (not me ;)) :
>>
>> Statovarius will release a live 2 CD in March/April.
>> The tilte should be "Visions Of Europe".
>> I don't know if this album will be availible in USA are not.
Should be Tits on a Ritz !! Too bad they may not make it to the Dream
Concert. And, I think that it is a little confining to throw these guys
into the "Powermetal" category. From your sig, it says that you can
listen to two CDs at once which is waaaaay progressive, but you should
try these guys if you haven't. I think a lot of "Visions" and
"Episode".
>> HAS ANYBODY HEARD THE BAND "BLACK JESTER" ?
You betcha. I have two CDs from them. Warning. I am not really a
musician so all I can say is basically thumbs-up and thumbs-down.
Progressive rock-and-metal from Italy. Welcome to the Moonlight Circus
(I think this was their first ??) had some decent sounds to it. Maybe
it's just the power of suggestion but they seem to integrate theatrical
images into their songs. Different enough to claim an identity which in
the prog-world is saying something. Good enough to get me to buy their
new one.
Divine Comedy is their new one and I think that they have gotten a lot
more cohesive although I have only listened to it twice. Three songs
and I think 60+ minutes. Hell, Purgatory and Heaven. Some decent
guitar work and different textures keep this very interesting. The only
downside is that it goes from stronger and harder to slower and weaker
(not that this is necessarily a bad thing - well, it kindof is).
Unlesss you are on a tight budget, I consider at least Divine Comedy
worth buying, probably both.
Later,
Marky Mark
mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:53:02 -0500
From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new web pages
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980216135302.0069e254@scott.skidmore.edu>
Yay, I am redesigning my web pages for the last time (for a long time
anyway). YES there is DTC here. I have a new function for my site: an mp3
of the week page. There will be DT stuff up there (like EVE and things
from singles) as well as stuff from awesome bands like Braindance, Haji's
Kitchen, and so-forth!
I think I'm finally going to start reading the jam again, so watch out! ;)
Take care, everyone!
Erica
Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu
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Deedlit or Deedo on irc.dreamt.org 2112
emergency: pootersox@bonomi.connix.com
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http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:49:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stuff stuff stuff
Message-ID: <199802161849.NAA17961@umbc10.umbc.edu>
> For all the tablature I have seen on the net for these songs, no-one yet
> realises that they are all played in dropped D tuning!!! (IMO). I can't see
> any other way JP could have got those low notes for BMS (I read somewhere
> that the only song on FII he used a 7-string for was NM). JM could have
> tuned to dropped D as well, or as I saw somewhere, could have used a
> 5-string bass. Also, the ending chord to HK is a Dsus4, which only sounds
> correct (using all strings) if the 6th string is tuned to a D. Obviously
Nope, no dropped-D there. Since Myung has the low B string on the bass,
JP's chords could be in the first- or second-inversion, and as long as JM <or DS,
for that matter> root it everything will sound like the right inversion.
Sure, he could do them on the seven, but actually, the only FiI songs on the
seven-string are NM and JLMB.
> HAS ANYBODY HEARD THE BAND "BLACK JESTER" ?
Yes. And they suck.
Steve Z
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:58:52 +0100
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hi, MIKE BAHR !!!
Message-ID: <01bd3b1d$afffa8e0$816312c3@gjjhgjhg>
>8. Does anyone else here like to read the Dutch DT fanzine "Theater of
>Dreams" even though we don't speak Dutch, but because we can "kind of"
>understand what we're reading, and the mag looks so awesome? Every time
>I get a new TOD issue in the mail, it's like Christmas! And seeing PT
>reviewed in the last one, reminds me that I need to send them their
>Mosaics they ordered eventually! :)
Thank you very much for your possitive reaction on our fanzine, Much
appreciated !!!
Somehow all my email to you keep bouncing back, so i'm using some value
bandwith of the jam to communicate with you.
I'm looking forward to receive the mosaic disc and i will surely review it
in the next TOD issue. But please send it to the right adress.
The last time you've sended TDOW cd's to the German fanclub (THE
MIRROR-postfach 3137, 50246 Pullheim, Germany)
instead of the DUTCH fanclub adress. (see our fanzine for the correct
adress). Please make sure that you use the dutch adress
Thanx in advance !!!
Denis Schoen/ Theater Of Dreams Holland
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:06:05 +0200
From: O-P Komonen <op777@mail.surffi.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT tape from Jan. show...
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980216230605.006c96f0@hlti.fi>
I talked to some guy couple weeks ago at #ytsejam, he said he had a DAT of
last night's show he was listening to... I can't remember who I talked with
(yeah, my head is one big hole) only remember he said the guys recorded the
lounge version of UACM aswell, so if you are this guy or have DAT / tape of
eny Jan. / Feb. show, please e-mail me.
thnx
op777 .sigless today
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:48:32 -0500
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT video game theme covers
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980216114832.006fca08@postoffice.ptd.net>
At 10:28 PM 2/15/98 -0800, Mike Bahr wrote:
>9. I think Dream Theater should do instrumental takes on the themes from
>video games like Metroid, Zelda, and Faxanadu. Just my opinion.
Wow, that would sound pretty cool. Come to think of it, there's a lot of
other video game stuff that would sound GREAT done by DT . . . In Final
Fantasy 3 for SNES, there's the music that runs while you're fighting the
last 4 bosses, especially the last guy . . . Castlevania 4 . . .or how
about some Mortal Kombat stuff? They could do an entire album of video
game covers, "When Dream and Game Unite". Hehehe . . .
> - Mike Bahr - Prism Records
Later,
Brian L.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:45:53 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Oh, my fookin' god!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980216203856.15901A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
And just when I thought that Gentle Giant were the pinnacle of
weird music, I listen to some contemporary "Classical" music composers.
Well, I never thought that I could laugh with instrumental music, but now,
I won't dare doubt anything more about music.
If you want fucking weird shit, go listen to:
* Anton Webern's "5 Orchesterstucke Op. 10";
* Olivier Messiaen's "Cinq Rechants";
* Pierre Boulez's "Notations";
* Igor Stravinsky's "Le Sacre du Printemps" (not as weird as those
listed before, but still interesting).
You'll agree with me that Yes' "Relayer" is the most commercial
shit in this fucking world. Dream Theater? Those guys making "Another
Day"? Huh!
If they are too much for you, then you'll appreciate Chopin's
"Walz Op. 18". Nice Woody Woodpecker song. :-)
[]s "where's the floor?", Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:57:13 -0500 From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anti-Spam Laws (NDTC) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980215225713.007bcbe0@access.mountain.net>
Hey fellow 'Jammers. If I could beg your indulgence a little bit . . .
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If you're interested in knowing what the provisions are of these bills and their chances to pass Constitutional muster, check out the latest issue of the West Virginia Journal of Law and Technology (http://www.wvjolt.wvu.edu) for an article about the three major bills out there.
I only post this here because I wrote the article and I'm looking for hits. :)
Thanks,
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:30:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Camel, Renaissance Message-ID: <19980217023055.15331.rocketmail@web2.rocketmail.com>
Rogerio wrote: >I'd appreciate your help if you could send me some comments >about the following progressive bands: Camel and Renaissance. Hello Rogerio! have checked up to Mail No. 3554 and find it difficult to believe that no-one has replied on these bands! I'll try to be as informative as possible. Camel: >I've heard the first 9 tracks from Camel's "The Snow Goose" and >I'm wondering if the rest of the disc (don't know how many tracks the >disc has) is similar to what I've heard. I really like it and find that in >the department of melodic, soft music, it's some of the best things that I >have ever heard. Thumbs up! Are their other albums similar to this one? >No? Any comments are welcome. 'The Snow Goose' is Camel's 3rd. release and it's a concept album, based on Paul Gallico's The Snow Goose. The guys in the band chose to do this instead of Hermann Hesse's 'Steppen Wolf' (and almost got sued)! Previous -and later- albums by Camel had some vocals from different members. The songs were longer (as opposed to The Snow Goose, which was bits and pieces one after the other, but very short indeed!) and had a jazzier feel, although they were clearly more into progressive rock, with guitars and keyboards taking precedence over vocals. If you like The Snow Goose, then try A Live Record. This recording contains 'The Snow Goose' recorded live in its entirety and w/ full orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall in London! Check it out: this is the record that hooked me when I was just 10! My brothers used to play Yes and King Crimson when I was 6, and when they brought THAT, I went back to being a baby, because I shit my pants! A Live Record is a double CD, and in CD No. 1, a spectacular saxophone player, Mel Collins-ex King Crimson, Chris Squire, Baron Rojo, Alan Parsons Project... (who had joined the band) just adds to the wizardry of Andrew Latimer on guitars and Peter Bardens on keyboards! BTW, Their drummer at the time, Andy Ward, who left in ‘81 or so, due to an accident, later played in Marillion! I don't think there are any recordings of Marillion featuring Andy though... Anyway, Camel grew and changed a bit their style (dropped the jazz, more vocals), but always managed to put out both conventional and concept albums (Nude-based on a true story of a Japanese soldier who was left on a small island alone during 2nd. World War and was found some 25-30 years later and he thought that the war was still going on!; Stationary Traveller-about Berlin; Dust and Dreams-based on John Steinbeck's 'The Grapes of Wrath'; Harbour of Tears) and several live albums (Pressure Points, Never Let Go, and a couple of live CD's rescued by Mr. Latimer-the only remaining original member-from 1972 and 1982, published by a new record company: Camel Productions). In the years, Camel has seen many personnel changes. Those include: Anthony Phillips (Genesis, solo)-guitars Paul Burguess drums Simon Philips Sessions-drums Duncan McKay 10cc-keys Francis Monkman (Sky, Curved Air)-keys Chris Rainbow (Alan Parsons Project)-keys, vocals Mickey Simmonds (Mike Oldfield, Fish)-keys Kit Watkins (Happy the Man, solo)-keys Richard Sinclair (Caravan)-bass Stuart Tosh (10cc)-drums Colin Bass (Alan Parsons Project)-bass, vocals David Paton (Pilot, Alan Parsons Project)-bass, vocals Ton Scherpenzeel (Kayak)-keys Neil Panton oboe Jan Schelhaas keys I think I covered most of it.... More than once, Camel had 2 keyboard players! If I were you, I would pick up freely, blind-folded, any Camel CD. If you want to start with The Snow Goose, fine! But please, don't forget to check out ‘Nude' and ‘I Can See Your House From Here'. 3 of Camel's most beautiful melodies are in there: The Last Farewell in ‘Nude' and Eye of the Storm and Ice from ‘I Can See Your House...'. I put 2 of them in my list of best guitar solos of all time. Rogerio, I could tell you more on Camel if you want, or Renaissance. If you do, then write to me, and I can give you full details about their CD's, it doesn't bother me! I just think this is getting too long and not everyone is interested.... To make it very short on Renaissance, try 1st. 'Turn of the Cards' and 'Scheherazade and Other Stories'. BTW, Ritchie Blackmore put out a new album in which his wife sings, and it's all acoustic guitars and Ian Anderson plays flute!!! And they do a cover from Renaissance's 'Turn of the Cards', Mother Russia. BP No Signature!
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:24:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ozzy Message-ID: <19980217022407.23898.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Hello. I've just been to the Ozzy Osbourne concert last night. I have to say that it was nice to see him in such a good shape. I thought I was going to see a fat slob, but I didn't, he was doing fine. His voice sounds just like on records, and his band delivered a good performance, specially Zakk Wilde. This guy is awesome! The show was very simple. No flashy things, no fireworks, no nothing. I liked it, because he doesn't need any of those additions to put on a good show. The music does it. Was anybody from this list in the concert? Does anyone have a list of the songs played last night, or at any time during this tour? BP No Signature!
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:30:47 EST From: ReikiFox@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3555 Message-ID: <90b2fea7.34e90470@aol.com>
how do i unsubsribe? please reply privately : ) i just dont have time to read the jam anymore, unfortunately : ( : ( : (
grassyass - nicole
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:53:40 -0500 From: Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC: Bootleg Equipment Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980217005340.0092a100@cs.uri.edu>
Could anyone who has made tapes of shows from the audience let me know about your successes/failures... what kind of equipment you used... etc...
Not that I want to try my hand a recording a show or anything :) I just would like it come out good if I were to ever think of trying... :)
Thank You, -Paul
----------------------------------------------- Paul Drapeau drapeau@cs.uri.edu http://www.cs.uri.edu/~drapeau/ Age of Valor Live Role Playing http://www.larp.com/valor/
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