YTSEJAM Digest 3563
Today's Topics:
1) re: Prism under attack
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
2) Fan Club
by Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
3) Magna Carta's URL
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
4) Mape made a mistake.
by Jeremy Hyde <tempus@trek.alliance.net>
5) finneus gauge live - This Saturday!
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
6) UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: DT Fan Club Stuff!
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
7) Dream Theater stuff for trade
by Calvin6S@aol.com
8) common thuggery
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
9) MP3: New Millennium (live)
by Nicholas Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3562
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
11) Re: Autographed DT Photos, DT in Columbia House
by MTeiper@aol.com
12) new millenium Mp3
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
13) Re: Prism Records under attack!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) Re: www.magnacarta.com
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) Mike Bahr is too sexy for my cat
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
16) DT Songs
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
17) www.magnacarta.net
by "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
18) Playlist - "Strong Progress" for 2-19-98
by "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu>
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:41:37 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Prism under attack
Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980219144137.34372fe6@mail.ici.net>
>I received an extortion threat from the following person:
I have to agree with Clark on this one - this has *no* place on this list.
Frankly, I'm amazed it took this long for someone to come up with the idea
of threatening this kind of thing. Whatever action you decide to take about
this, the discussion and decision should be kept within the confines of
Prism records.
And enticing your "friends" on the list to potentially take action against
this person on your behalf, and/or threatening this person with bodily harm
is downright juvenile. I daresay your associates among Mesa's finest would
not look kindly upon such threats, thinly veiled though they may have been.
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: (psull)-(at)-(ici)-(dot)-(net)
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.just-like.nu/
NP: Removed because Jon Kretchmer said so.
______________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 01:07:14 -0700
From: Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fan Club
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980220010714.00f259b0@futureone.com>
Hello all! Just got my fan club starter pack also. I sent my check in
around the middle of November or so. Very cool packet of stuff, however,
no cd :( Is the cd usually sent separate from the rest? Or did I join too
late and they ran out of cd's? Also, does the fan club packet get sent out
of just the london office or also thru the new york office? Just curious,
mine was sent out of England. Anyhow, I'm really impressed with the
mag..lot of cool info in there..specially the run down of Mike's kit from
time to time :)
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:40:04 -0700
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Magna Carta's URL
Message-ID: <v01540b00b1123aa9780a@[205.134.227.15]>
Andrew wrote;
>The magna carta web site is nonexistent for some reason. I get the "file not
>found" response when ever I tried to check it out. Does anybody know why? Is
>it under a new address or something.
You better go to;
http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/
It's fine on my mac.
Have fun,
AE
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"Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:44:14 -0800
From: Jeremy Hyde <tempus@trek.alliance.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mape made a mistake.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980219154414.007a0470@trek.alliance.net>
Nick Giannotti does not go by the nick of Tempus. I do. He's Mogus.
Nick Giannotti = Mogus.
Jeremy Hyde (me) = Tempus.
I didn't think anyone would get our nicks mixed up, but Mape has.
Jeremy Hyde (aka Tempus) - tempus@alliance.net
Prepare yourself for Jeremy's House Of Lovin':
http://x2.alliance.net/tempus/index.htm
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:03:24 -0500
From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: finneus gauge live - This Saturday!
Message-ID: <01bd3d79$d142e040$b0cbcdcf@w-ostrich-1>
>This is just a reminder that finneus gauge will be playing live in
>Philadelphia this Saturday night at Ulana's Downtown Rock Lounge. Ulana's
>is located at 2nd and Bainbridge Streets (one block south of the restaurant
>district on South Street) and a parking lot can be found one block away on
>3rd and Bainbridge. The show starts at 9:30 pm with 5000 Deep opening up
>and the cover charge is $6.00 (unless you found one of our $1 off coupons
>in the area). There will be a beer special all night - $1 drafts.
>
>For directions to Ulana's and a phone number, please visit the finneus
>gauge website at http://ghostland.com/finneus.html.
>
>Hope to see you there!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:49:34 +1000
From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: DT Fan Club Stuff!
Message-ID: <4A2565B0.007CC58C.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
So some of you got signed photo's, some didn't and some didn't even get a
pic .........
Who cares ?
You get the fanzine and the free CD, wadda you want for $15/10 UKP ?
:)
graham
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:30:07 EST
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater stuff for trade
Message-ID: <a0fe537d.34eca461@aol.com>
It has come to my attention that I have a few items in my possession that may
actually be labeled as rare. I didn't think they were that rare, but
everytime I offer them up for trade, I ALWAYS get a positive response. If you
are interested in the following, we can set up a trade. If you don't have
anything to trade, but are still interested, let me know if you are interested
in buying it. I wouldn't expect much, but I would like to make sure that I
have material and shipping costs covered, as well as a little extra for my
time (would you want to make 40 video copies and break even, that's more than
a regular work week of effort there!) If you do have a trade, it is just a
matter of we each buy the same tape and use the same shipping method so
neither of us feels ripped off. Okay, here's the meat:
1 - VIDEO of John Petrucci at MI on December 9, 1994. This tape is
phenomenal. Unreleased music and off the cuff leads. In depth Q&A.
References to the newly departed Kevin Moore and fresh Derek Shernian. Up
close, stable video of Petrucci as well as clean, clear sound. My copy is 2nd
generation - straight of the original. I was at this show and I can say there
is no better representation of this show than this tape!
2 - TAB of When Dream and Day Unite (less the song The Ones Who Help to Set
the Sun) These is a Japanese Tab book with Drums, Bass, Guitar, Keyboard, and
vocal melody transcribed. In a word - complete. Now you only have to worry
if the drummer can read music, as opposed to figure out these songs. I also
have TAB of IAW (less Learning to Live) and Awake (less The Mirror) in the
same complete band format. I don't know why the Japanese versions always
manage to leave out one song, but I would rather tell you upfront than have
you set up a trade for one of these and find out the only song you really
cared about was Learning to Live and it isn't included. But - I've never seen
another Tab book this complete.
3. Various Young Guitar Articles. One with Petrucci giving excerpts from
each of the 3 of 4 complete albums - IAW, Awake, and FII. Myung also has his
own excerpt section for IAW and Awake. These are only about 6 pages each, so
these are more extras than full on trades.
Okay there it is. I only listed the items which I think are quality trades.
I have some DT bootlegs, but the sound or camera angle are just too annoying
for me personally. I guess they are good for bootlegs, but not good for
regular viewing.
With that said, I am interested in the following videos, tab books, complete
collection of MTV style videos, or guitar videos from the following:
Dream Theater (of course)
Savatage
George Lynch (Dokken and more importantly - Lynch Mob and solo)
Yngwie Malmsteen
Tony MacAlpine
Marty Friedman (Cacophony days)
Jason Becker (anything at all)
Magellan
Haji's Kitchen
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:49:00 -0500
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: common thuggery
Message-ID: <199802192142.QAA04914@bertelsmanncis.com>
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]From: ytsejam@ax.com
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 3562
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 2:43PM
>> Sorry for using up the bandwidth. Good day, all.
>>--
>>- Mike Bahr - Prism Records
>No man, now I get to think about some guy in AZ getting bombed with
nuclear
>arsenal by Ytsejammers all during Anthro lecture...How cool!!!!!!
>
>Jon
>
>Oh and Clark, chill asswipe. You got anything more interesting to
post?
alright now, this is getting all too nutty. mike has lots of good
reasons to be super pissed, with this kid threatening him and all. ok,
so mike's running a business that's not entirely legal, but he has an
understanding with his clients. someone, though, gets bent out of
shape, and all of a sudden there's thuggery and whatnot.
sounds like a bookie operation, doesn't it?
before anyone is sleeping with the fishes or ends up with a horse's head
in their bed, i mean, let's just relax with this. really, i can see all
of the prism records updates and the 'jam--they do fall within the
parameters of it, because it involves bootleg trading (even if the trade
is boot for cash). this, though, is a simple business problem,
complicated by the fact that the business is illegal. lots of people
are involved in businesses, some illegal, and lots of people have
business problems. respect the people who handle the problems with
class.
i guess i'm upset because, though mike's work may not be entirely legal,
he's always handled himself with class and grace. now, it's pretty
disappointing. all of a sudden, mike comes across like a common
criminal, a common thug.
i'm willing to chalk it up, becuase mike probably just was screaming
bloody murder in (understandable) anger.
make, if you've calmed down, please give all of us neutral folks (not
pro-prism or anti-prism) a reason to at least respect you again.
--MATt
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:53:25 EST
From: Nicholas Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: bostonjam@dreamt.org
Subject: MP3: New Millennium (live)
Message-ID: <199802192153.QAA06922@helpdesk3.MIT.EDU>
Hey everyone,
The subject says it all. I put up an MP3 of
New Millennium live. Go to:
If you have any thoughts or comments, please let
me know.
Thanks,
Nick
a.k.a. Bogie on YtseJam IRC
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:56:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3562
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980219165317.87118B-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> Tori's new album is called "Confessionings of a Choir Girl" (yes,
> Confessionings, it's supposedly not a typo), and it'll be out, well,
> sometime soon.
May 5th.
Tori's going on tour soon too, performing with a full
> backup band. She is starting a European tour in May which will last
> through the beginning of July -- BUT, in April and May, she will also be
> playing a short club tour in several major US cities, and (as per her
> request) tickets will be sold through the ticket offices only. No
> Ticketmaster. Which means, basically, that you won't get to see her play
> unless you camp out on the sidewalk in front of some club box office for
> like a week.
>
That's not entirely true. The club thing is going to happen, but there are
some other "performances" in the works too. You'll find out soon....
Richie
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:24:33 EST
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Autographed DT Photos, DT in Columbia House
Message-ID: <8b9066b1.34ecb123@aol.com>
Howdy -
In a message dated 98-02-19 10:58:26 EST, YtseJim wrote:
<< Did this happen to anyone else? did someone recieve a signed pic
with their Xmas CD? >>
Yes, mine was signed by Derek.
Peace...... Matt T.
NP: DT "You OR Me"
"I need some pencils! Will you be using them for company business?" :-)
PS: Did anyone happen to see that FII was Columbia House's Metal Selection Of
the Month? They gave 'em a great write-up regarding the album. If anyone
wants me to transcribe it to the Jam, I will, just e-mail me and let me know
if you'd like to see it. Laterz!!
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:23:41 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new millenium Mp3
Message-ID: <34ECB0ED.CBBD2ECE@caribe.net>
hmm is it just me or do the guys really mess up their time ( or beat i
dont know music theory) at the very begning when portnoy & petrucci
start playing?? Seems like one of them speeded up.. and then myung had
to catch up..but it sounds horrible!!!
--In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:15:15 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Prism Records under attack! Message-ID: <199802192315.PAA23018@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, CLARK ABEL said: > Hey, no problem. 'Cause you're so cool, Mike Bahr, that everyone >wants to hear about how you're going to kick this little punk's ass. Or maybe >you should just recruit him for Prism records; it sounds to me like he's your >kind of guy... you know, start a little underground crime ring in your home >town. Please, please, please keep us updated on this gripping saga of >criminal vs. criminal. I have to go pump some iron now, so I can be ready >when your cool 17-year-old bodybuilder/brother-in-law/private thug Joey shows >up so I can be as cool as him. And you. Good day. > -Clark
Did you hit your head? You really didn't need to respond to it... but I guess pulling your tiny dick isn't enough, so you have to stroke your keyboard...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:16:04 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: www.magnacarta.com Message-ID: <199802192316.PAA23033@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Angus53@aol.com said: > >The magna carta web site is nonexistent for some reason. I get the "file not >found" response when ever I tried to check it out. Does anybody know why? Is >it under a new address or something. The CD that DT plays after their shows >that sounds kinda like Sinatra was rumored to be coming out under that label. >Whats up?? > >Andrew
That's because it's www.magnacarta.NET not COM
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:14:29 -0500 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Bahr is too sexy for my cat Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980219231429.006d9008@pop.pipeline.com>
In the immortal words of Wisha, "*Sigh*"
Did that little bit of "my dick is bigger and has more friends than yours" really belong on the jam?
Cd of the Day: Testament - The Ritual
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions 31-15-12 vs. Los Angeles Kings
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:21:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Songs Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980219182024.29048A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Which is the best website to download "unheard" dream theater tunes?? If someone can email me the address it would be great. Thanks!
-DR
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 05:52:24 -0600 From: "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: www.magnacarta.net Message-ID: <199802192346.RAA38888@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hey all!
Magna Carta DOES indeed have a web site up and running.
It's address is
Check it out. My radio show, Strong PROGress, will have a link on the Magna Carta page eventually. That will be nice. ____________________________________________________________________ "Ascend, descend, the digital ghost, above the silent sacred host. We only hold you high to see that we can never learn." - Tarwater ____________________________________________________________________ Ryan Good - WSUM - Assistant Music Director / Loud Rock Director Host of Strong Progress, Thursdays from 2pm till 4pm Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206 Office Hours: Wed 10-11, Thurs 12-1, various other times... "The World is Tuning In..." WSUM/MSR Homepage - http://msr.wisc.edu ____________________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 05:55:46 -0600 From: "Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy" <rtgood@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Playlist - "Strong Progress" for 2-19-98 Message-ID: <199802192349.RAA46226@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
What's up y'all?
Yes, it is true: Strong Progress had it's second show today...I hope some of you were listening.
Strong Progress, Feb. 19, 1998
GROUP SONG LABEL Liquid Tension Experiment Three Minute Warning Magna Carta Machine Head Ten Ton Hammer Roadrunner 12Rods Friend V2 Ozric Tentacles Jurassic Shift Dovetail Imperium Too Short a Season Leviathan Rush The Necromancer Mercury Altura Mercy Magna Carta Discipline Canto IV (Limbo) Strung Out! Cynic Uroboric Forms Roadrunner Acumen Out of Balance Holographic DROP O' THE AXE Amon Amarth ...Dragon... Metal Blade King Diamond One Down, Two to Go Metal Blade Thought Industry My Famous Mistake Metal Blade Jerry Cantrell Cut You In Columbia Yes And You And I Atlantic
OK so what if there were a few long songs in there (11, 28, 13, 13) but hey, it's progressive rock, so we can take it.
Thank you, and You're Welcome. ____________________________________________________________________________
*Coming soon, special Magna Carta feature* *Call up the live studio line at 1-608-265-9786 * ____________________________________________________________________________
Send Goodies like Promos, Bios, Photos, Posters, T-Shirts, Stickers, Ashtrays, Lighters, and the like to
WSUM - Madison Student Radio ATTN: Ryan Good, Loud Music Guy P.O. Box 260020 Madison, WI 53726-0020
Thank you...No, I thank YOU. No, It is YOU who I am thanking.
WSUM INFORMATION: .will be 6,000 watts in the fall of '98...will be at 91.7 FM...music department phone line (where I can be reached at) is 608-262-1206...the live studio line can be found above...we are located above URBAN OUTFITTERS on State Street in Madison, Wisconsin, at the University of Wisconsin, Madison...we haven't had a student radio on the air since 1993!!!
Please feel free to write back and let me know (nicely) what you think ____________________________________________________________________ "Ascend, descend, the digital ghost, above the silent sacred host. We only hold you high to see that we can never learn." - Tarwater ____________________________________________________________________ Ryan Good - WSUM - Assistant Music Director / Loud Rock Director Host of Strong Progress, Thursdays from 2pm till 4pm Home - 608-285-8695 Radio - 608-262-1206 Office Hours: Wed 10-11, Thurs 12-1, various other times... "The World is Tuning In..." WSUM/MSR Homepage - http://msr.wisc.edu ____________________________________________________________________
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