YTSEJAM Digest 3565
Today's Topics:
1) Trade ?
by MentalHunk@aol.com
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3564
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
3)
by K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
4) Re: ELP
by a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org>
5) Prism CD STuff
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
6) Re: ELP
by "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
7) Re: www.magnacarta.com
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
8) Re: DT Songs
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
9) Re: ELP
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
10)
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
11) New VH/Satriani in the Bay Area (NDTC)
by "Neil Evans" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
12) Xmas CD and Houston DT airplay
by "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
13)
by "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net>
14) Transcription of DT in CH, Xanadu Records
by MTeiper@aol.com
15) The Neapolitan Orchestra
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
16) Savatage news !!!
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
17) Re: DT Songs
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) Kassel show boot ???
by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
19) DT in Aus.
by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
20) HY
by "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au>
21) UK Tour.
by A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk>
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:43:54 EST
From: MentalHunk@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trade ?
Message-ID: <795a730f.34edc0dc@aol.com>
Hello fellow DT fans !
I am a huge fan (as we all are) from way back. I like to collect/trade copies
of Dream Theater audio/video...Interested ? Mail me for my list and let me
know if we can trade.
Tom
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:03:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3564
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980220130059.8920A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
> Wow, the other day, I was going through and marking all of the cool
> new CDs coming out in March on my pilot, so I remembered everything,
> and it really is gonig to be a cool month:
>
> Mar 3: Joe Satriani Crystal Planet
> Mar 10: Liquid Tension
> Mar 17: Van Halen III
> Mar 24: APSOG live video
> Apr 7: Savatage Wake Of Magellan (ok, so early April as well)
You forgot Iron Maiden 'Virtual XI' and the Type O Negative video, both on
Mar 24. Good times await us all!
-C#
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:07:53 -0500 (EST)
From: K I L L M A R Y <caschulze@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199802201807.NAA07573@camel14.mindspring.com>
Heike:
>You can influence the "mwah"-factor also by the amount of pressure
>excercised by your fingertips, also try experimenting using the bony top as
>against the more fleshy side of the fingertip.
That's another reason ebony and composites are better :-) try putting a lot
of pressure on rosewood and, over time, the wood will give. I'm sure you
know that, I'm just commenting for whoever else might be interested :-)
>Carvin also has a few showrooms...
>
>BTW, I have to add to my last post that in the meantime they use different
>standard woods (alder instead of poplar, but you also can have mahogany or
>koa -- the blossoming tonal characteristics of which probably is a nice
>choice for a fretless :-) not to speak of its gorgeous look... :-)) and a
>massive Hipshot bridge instead of the lighter Wilkinson.
How do you compare the Hipshot with the 2-Tek? Do you think it's worth the
extra 150 bux they ask to have the 2-Tek installed?
I was thinking about getting a Carvin neck-through alder bass (all-alder)
and a fretless ebony fingerboard. Do you have any idea what that would sound
like? :-) I think it still should have enough hi-end because of the ebony.
Alder should provide nice mids and tight lows.
If anybody has bought any Carvin basses, I'd appreciate some input on what
woods were selected and what they sound like...
Christian.
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:14:43 -0500 (EST)
From: a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: ELP
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980220131243.139477A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
Brain Salad Surgery is definitely the best ELP album. Next in quality is
Tarkus, the title track which is quite good. Some other songs on there as
well, along with the standard ELP filler-material. After that, the quality
drops off quite sharply, but if you want to try more I'd go with ELP,
Trilogy, and/or Pictures at an Exhibition.
-=-
"I am just a stain on the white house intern's dress of life."
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====-------------------
http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:27:17 -0500
From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prism CD STuff
Message-ID: <34EDCB05.277F@mtu.edu>
Mike-
"Anyway, I changed my mailing address just in case. If everyone would
be
so kind as to NOT give my old address to anyone, I would appreciate it
ever so much. This dork may have it already, true, but my experience
with net users is that they rarely write anything down because they know
they can "always look it up on the net later", and if that's the case
here, I've rather luckily protected myself. Thanks to all of you who
e-mailed support, you're the greatest!!!"
This means that the OLD address is stil valid for orders and what not,
and this new address is just a temp. distraction for the lunitic to go
to correct?
Matt Stanich
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:12:40 -0500
From: "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
To: <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>, <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: ELP
Message-ID: <01bd3e3b$e4ffbdc0$LocalHost@default>
BSS is probably the best album overall. However, if you really like it
(particlarly Karn Evil 9), then I recommend a few of their albums in the
following order:
1) Pictures at an Exhibition--a very good live recording of a 33min
rendition of Mussorgsky's classical piece (as arranged and adapted by
ELP--they added some music, and some lyrics). Kick ass stuff.
2) Trilogy--which includes the amAZing title track, the equally kick ass
instrumental "Hoedown" (by Aaron Copland, which you will most likely
recongnize) and "The Endless Enigma".
3) Tarkus--which includes the kick-ass 20min title track and a few other
good tunes.
4) <self-titled ELP>--which has two great full-band instrumentals, the
ballad "Lucky Man" (like "Still...", or "From the Beginning" on Trilogy),
and another classical adaptation called "Knife Edge" (very good), the 12min
"Take a Pebble", and Emerson organ & piano instrumental (kinda like KE9 2nd
Impression).
It's a toss up: I'd say (1) and (2) are on a par, and the same with (3) and
(4). You can find this stuff remastered on Rhino records for (usually)
not-too-much money. ELP's other stuff (Works, Love Beach, etc) aren't really
worth owning. All the best tracks can be found on the ELP boxed set, but I
found the new studio version of Pictures to be inferior (not to mention
shorter) to the original, and a couple worthwhile songs ARE missing,
although you do get the two good tracks from Works 1, "Pirates" and "Fanfare
for the Common Man", but...
--Topher
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:29:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: www.magnacarta.com
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980220152903.26112G-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
Maybe they are finally updating that site after nearly three quarters of a
year.
--Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com
Keyboards, vocals, musical slut
I'll play for money. Enquire if interested.
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:39:46 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT Songs Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980220153941.26112I-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
I would like this as well. On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Dan wrote:
> > Which is the best website to download "unheard" dream theater tunes?? If > someone can email me the address it would be great. Thanks! > > -DR >
--
Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com
Keyboards, vocals, musical slut
I'll play for money. Enquire if interested.
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:55:42 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: ELP Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980220155503.26112M-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
You bought one of their best albums in Brain salad Surgery, try Tarkus trilogy, or ELP or Pictures at an Exhibition next. If you want a live album, try Welcome back my friends ... Other than that, you could try the box set.
--
Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com
Keyboards, vocals, musical slut
I'll play for money. Enquire if interested.
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:27:00 -0500 From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199802202121.QAA01026@bertelsmanncis.com>
from bernardo: >Mike Ines-bass guitar
i know mike inez has worked with ozzy before, but does this mean that alice in chains is definitely done for? i mean, he was the new bassist in AiC, so i take this to mean that they are not writing & recording, nor do they have plans to in the foreseeable future. anyone else know anything more concrete?
still bernardo: >Moving on to King's X, I found a CD in a shop named Dogman by these
well, if you didn't like the vocals in LiTS, then avoid this disc (though i like it quite a bit). this is the only one where doug handles all of the lead vox, so that soulful powerful voice is pretty much everywhere on this one.
from trevor: >Believe it or not, I had never heard any ELP until today when I came >accross Brain Salad Surgery at the used shop. I gave it a spin and
everytime ELP comes up, i will make it a point to say that brain salad surgery, trilogy, and tarkus are three albums well worth the investment. be careful with other stuff--i would say that love beach (i think that's the name) has got to be one of the worst albums ever by a band that once was great.
--MATt
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Date: 20 Feb 98 12:02:53 -0800 From: "Neil Evans" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New VH/Satriani in the Bay Area (NDTC) Message-ID: <199802202245.OAA04436@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
Chris.. >Anyone: Is the album out yet?
VH III should be out on March 17.
FYI for Bay Area guitar fans: Satriani at the Warfield (SF), March 14 (His new album is due out March 3rd).
-Neil.
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:17:08 PST From: "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Xmas CD and Houston DT airplay Message-ID: <19980221011708.24276.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey,
Two items of good news. First, Nicole and I just received our Xmas CD. Yeah, I was one of those who sent my check to the NYC address last November. The CD and all the fanclub stuff is pretty cool. Oh, and I don't think I've seen it conjectured here, but I think the two non-DT members in the studio picture are Doug Pinnick (shaved his mohawk!) and Kevin Shirley.
Second, a track off of FII is finally getting airplay in Houston, TX! KACC (Alvin Community College radio) 89.7 FM is playing You Not Me. I've heard it on there several times in the past two weeks. This is the first time any song off of FII has been played by any Houston area station. The major rock outlet in town completely ignores DT. Anyway, I'm gonna be requesting YNM at this college station to hopefully get it into regular rotation. In case anyone else local wants to request them too, their number is 281-388-4772.
Ken kmcwatters@hotmail.com http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kmcwatters
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:30:32 -0600 From: "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Message-ID: <199802210130.UAA44248@mail1y-int.prodigy.net>
2 - TAB of When Dream and Day Unite (less the song The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun) These is a Japanese Tab book with Drums, Bass, Guitar, Keyboard, and vocal melody transcribed. In a word - complete. Now you only have to worry if the drummer can read music, as opposed to figure out these songs. I also have TAB of IAW (less Learning to Live) and Awake (less The Mirror) in the same complete band format. I don't know why the Japanese versions always manage to leave out one song, but I would rather tell you upfront than have you set up a trade for one of these and find out the only song you really cared about was Learning to Live and it isn't included. But - I've never seen another Tab book this complete.
check out PAW, SAR, or FG from Steve Vai. WAY more than you need to know!
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:38:11 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Transcription of DT in CH, Xanadu Records Message-ID: <4f646966.34ee3e19@aol.com>
Hey Gang -
Well, I received a couple of replies requesting that I transcribed the write- up that Columbia House did up for the Metal Selection of the Month, FII. Here y'all go:
Virtuosity is nothing to be embarassed by. Even though the rise of grunge and alternative put the spotlight back on feeling and attitude, nothing can beat an instrument well-played. In the '70s bands like Yes and Rush funneled furious chops into a powerful vision that still stands up today. Dream Theater carries that torch, making epic, progressive metal with more hooks than a coatroom and some of the most impressive physical dexterity you'll ever hear.
This is a band that knows how to be surgically accurate yet rock like a hurricane. James LaBrie's vocals find a middle ground between the growl of current heroes like Alice In Chains' Layne Staley and the melodic punch of Steve Perry of Journey. And John Petrucci is one of the few guitarists able to deliver big, heavy riffs and spidery, complicated solos in equal measures. If you're an aspiring player, he'll keep you up at night wondering "How'd he do that?"
Dream Theater's latest masterwork, "Falling Into Infinity", continues in the experimental vein of their earlier releases, marrying pop impact - check out "You Not Me" - to mammoth, multi-part arrangements that hold the attention and demand repeat listening. Producer Kevin Shirley (Silverchair, Aerosmith) has added some sonic heft without diluting the Dream Theater script - make it big, loud and perfect.
Despite all you've read and heard, large-scale rock and roll is far from dead. You'll find it living, breathing and spitting fire inside a darkened Dream Theater.
Well, there it is. I hope at least some of you have enjoyed it. Pretty kick- ass review from a "mainstream" organization, eh?
Oh yeah, Mike Bahr wrote:
> This leads me to believe these people have done this before (to other > companies perhaps... so Ryan and John of Scarred and Xanadu records, be > careful!!), and I may just have to let the authorities deal with it. He
I've never heard of Xanadu records. Is the guy a Jammer as well? Is there a website that I can visit to check out the goods?
Thanks a lot..... Matt T.
NP: Bruce Dickinson "Accident Of Birth"... I just can't get over how GREAT this album is!!!!! :-D
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:29:43 -0600 From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Neapolitan Orchestra Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980220232938.00698d70@sysop.com.mx>
Hi there:
Does anyone knows something about "The Neapolitan Orchestra".
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 07:49:42 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage news !!! Message-ID: <34EEF796.57C9@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Savatage will release a live CD and a live Video later this year.
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:28:02 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT Songs Message-ID: <01bd3ea2$9fcd5520$350d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>> Which is the best website to download "unheard" dream theater tunes?? If >> someone can email me the address it would be great. Thanks!
I dunno. Go to Mosh's page. There're some there. That's where I was finally able to see what Speak to Me and Cover My Eyes were like. I love Speak to Me. Kinda makes me wish I'd bought the Japanese version. (sigh) Go figure they don't put it out as a B-Side. Hopefully that might come later. Cover My Eyes was heavier than I thought, which is fine by me. I like the lyrics. :)
http://progmetal.gmsnet.com/ Follow the Ear Candy link.
>check out PAW, SAR, or FG from Steve Vai. WAY more than you need to know!
FG's not too full of everything like PAW is. The tab for Alien Water Kiss is very interesting. heheh. But the keyboard parts for Fire Garden Suite are a nice addition. :) Does your guitarist do this?
--KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:10:46 +1000 From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Kassel show boot ??? Message-ID: <34EEA826.69A7@winshop.com.au>
Just wondering if there is a boot available of the Kassel, Germany show that was available in MPEG at
http://citadel.elender.hu/pod/rare.html
Just curious....
Luke.
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:11:02 +1000 From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT in Aus. Message-ID: <34EEA836.7B92@winshop.com.au>
> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ! > Okay I have heard from a very good source that DT will be in Australia > around April/May. Apparently DT's Aussie record label Warners have > confirmed that the tour is happening, though no exact dates are > know/booked yet. > This is ALL I know at the moment, as soon as I know more you will too.
Damn, Graham ! Now I have to change my good shorts which I just put on.
Luke.
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:53:43 +1030 From: "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au> To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: HY Message-ID: <199802211034.VAA02140@goliath.camtech.com.au>
I've decided that (IMO) the demo version of Hollow Years is much better than the studio version (not that the studio version is bad - I love it). I like the extra few lines between "Walk me across the water..." & "...and maybe you'll understand,". Love to hear comments on this one...
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shane Woolcock - woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au WWW - http://rampage.ml.org/sector1/~samah/ "Still awake, I continue to move along, Cultivating my own nonsense" - DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 12:30:14 +0000 From: A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: UK Tour. Message-ID: <4B5D0645AD@qmwcc5.qmw.ac.uk>
Hi,
If anyone is heading for any of the UK dates and needs somewhere to stay after, I have found some cheap B and Bs nearby to each of the gigs, and can give you the details if you like.
Mail me for the details,
-__
Adrian.
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