YTSEJAM Digest 3573
Today's Topics:
1) YtseCon
by someone@prognosis.com
2) Re: Yngwie
by Theiban@aol.com
3) Ibanez John Petrucci model questions
by Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
4) The sky is falling...
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
5) flecktones
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
6) FAQ
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
7) itchy MP
by "duh duh duh weeee! weeeee! duh duh duh" <woot@crypted.com>
8) Re: lost tunes
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
9) Van Halen, Rush, and Dream Theater MP3 compilation boot CD information
by "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3572
by DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
11) Jason Becker
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
12) Re: Jordan Rudess
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
13) Stratovarius
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
14) Re: Young Guitar Tab for FII Update
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
15) New CDs
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3571
by "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com>
17) Yngwie's Personal Life
by Awake77@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:44:43 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YtseCon
Message-ID: <199802252042.MAA27548@odin.ax.com>
Hey Jammers
Several of you (as well as 3 of my own personalities) have shown
significant interest in a YtseCon. So here we go... we're getting it
off the ground. Expect the con to occur this summer, during the
tour. Tentatively, we are leaning towards Southern California as a
location for the festivities, for several reasons. It's not final,
but since there hasn't been much discussion either here or in the
small group we've organized to develop the event, to give solid
reasons for a different location, So. Cal. looks promising.
What I need, is to hear from people who are interested in helping to
organize this, and to hear from people who are interested in
attending, tentatively. I don't want to hear complaints about
anything at the time being. If you want to influence what will occur
at the Con, and where it will occur, put in the effort to help
organize it. We're hoping for more events, and features to this Con
than in the previous ones.
Mail to:
If you are interested in helping with the development, or mail me
at:
If you think you'll probably attend the Con. This thing will be
better if we have a lot of opinions expressed as to what you want to
see, and what you want to do if you're showing up, but besides
discussing it here, we have to discuss this stuff with the group
setting this thing up, to figure out what is reasonably possible,
within whatever budget we set up.
We want to hear from you all, so let's hear what you guys want.
Open this up for discussion here and via private mail at the
addresses above.
What we have so far:
- We want a band to play there, besides just a jammer-jam.
- We want to set up before and after events
- We aim to set this up for just before or just after a DT concert
in whichever area we choose.
- We want to make this as inexpensive and as fun as possible
- Boot trades? We're talking about bringing computers and CDRs to
do free dubs of boot cds (you pay for the CDR media), and bring
extra VCRs so we can dub videos as well.
- Giveaways
So start firing away, and lets make this thing kick some ass!
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass."
- Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek
someone@prognosis.com
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:49:28 EST
From: Theiban@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Yngwie
Message-ID: <22a0830b.34f483db@aol.com>
I must say i liked Yngwie's first album, before he ran out of guitar solos and
just started repeating them on the next albums. i saw him live on the seventh
sign tour, he does put on a good show, he drank his share of wine, and brought
out his anorexic wife on stage to say hi to everyone, they did a good job at
covering up the bruises with makeup and sunglasses =]
i also must add that i think his best singer was the guy he had on Fire and
Ice, that mofo could sing. my drummers favorite is the dude from Odessy, or
whatever cd has the song paradise on it. i cant stand that guy though, he
strains too much on the high notes. ok well theres my 3 cents
Rocky Dean
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:50:05 -0700
From: Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ibanez John Petrucci model questions
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980225135005.007da530@futureone.com>
Anyone out there lucky enough to own one of the JPM's? Have a couple
questions about them to any one who owns one or has played one. First off,
whats the neck like? I know they are based of the RG series which had the
Wizzard necks on them and they were incredible. Are these necks much
different? Anyone know how much a JPM100P4 costs? And lastly, seeing how
JP uses the Universe from time to time any rumors about a JPM 7 string?
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:15:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The sky is falling...
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980225141358.21937A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
Well, it looks like the world is officially coming to an end. There's tab
for a Big Wreck song in Guitar World. :)
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
| Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design |
| gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:02:00 -0500
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: flecktones
Message-ID: <199802252054.PAA00487@bertelsmanncis.com>
from bill:
>Can you guys and gals give me some recommendations on which Bela Fleck
CDs
>to get first. All I have right now is UFO. Thanks!
geez... it's so hard to go wrong....
you should get (as should everyone) the "live art" album. it's a double
cd, but it captures something that none of their studio efforts have:
the incredible energy they pack into a show.
after that, i'm a big fan of the bela fleck solo cd, "tales from the
acoustic planet." it's got a lot of flecktone stuff, but it also
features him working with loads of other incredibly talented musicians
(edgar meter, chick corea, etc.) i should add, the "live art" discs
also feature lots of guest musicians.
"flight of the cosmic hippo" directly precedes, and features the same
lineup as, "ufo tofu," with howard levy on keys/harmonica. "three flew
over the cuckoo's nest" follwed "ufo tofu," and though its only got
bela, vic, and futureman, this album has tons of energy and fun.
probably a little more "in-your-face" bluegrass than the two preceding
albums, if there is such a thing, because of the departure of howard.
defintiely, everyone go get "live art." you'll thank yourself for
having it. or something.
--MATt
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:32:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FAQ
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980225142811.21937D-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
Someone in the last jam asked if the FAQ had a new location. It *will*
have a new location once it's updated, although most of the mirror sites
will stay the same. D-Man left me a lot of stuff to update, and I have
gotten a lot of good suggestions from other people.
At the very least, I will do a minor update on the contact info for the
FAQ and get it up so people know where to send inquiries. Next week is my
spring break, so hopefully I will have an update completed then. I'll
post here with any new info.
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
| Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design |
| gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:32:57 -0700
From: "duh duh duh weeee! weeeee! duh duh duh" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: itchy MP
Message-ID: <000a01bd4234$f226bec0$1a2746cf@sir.micron.net>
Didn't I hear that MP just has skunk streaks and that it isn't really
blonde? Not that I'd base my opinion on something as shallow as that, bu=
t I
just can't see Mike with the "Nelsons" look.
Is there any way that we can campaign to get Itchy's site the "official"
title? I mean he updates it at least 14 times a day, and the rsabbs site
has been updated about twice in the last decade. Who decided on the offic=
ial
status anyway?
My Storyhill "Echoes: The Final Show" finally came in the mail today. I
would recommend it to anyone. It's just two guys singing and playing the=
ir
acoustics, but they do some wicked harmonies and write some awesome songs.
Get high on ether when there's no one in the house.
Pretend it's the big one the moment you pass out.
That's just rehearsal, but it's comforting somehow
To practice dying now.
woot=99
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:45:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
To: The YtseJam mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: lost tunes
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.980225213606.26418A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
You can find Raise the Knife (the instrumental version) at
progmetal.gmsnet.com/clips/rtk.ra
You can also find Where Are You Now? at the same address, only wayn.ra
instead of rtk.ra.
Carpe Diem,
-- Bert Baldwin
rcb@vectorbd.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:06:43 -0600
From: "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Van Halen, Rush, and Dream Theater MP3 compilation boot CD information
Message-ID: <012c01bd4239$acfef100$83c3410c@dwhit>
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Before I get to the main part of the message, I received my fan club =
package last week, and sadly I didn't get the CD *or* autographed =
picture. It was pretty disappointing to say the least, considering I =
missed last year's CD as well. And I'm one of those people who'd =
actually appreciate the CD, because that kind of stuff interests me. =
Remember back in elementary school days where, if you brought a piece of =
candy to class, your teacher would say "Don't bring candy unless you =
bring enough for everybody"? Doh.
I'm opening up for pre-orders on my Van Halen MP3 compilation bootleg, =
and it's a doozy. 11 awesome VH bootlegs on a single disc! For the =
tracklisting, please visit the page listed below. I'm only making this =
boot known to the Ytsejammers for safety reasons, as Van Halen is =
apparently a difficult band to do bootlegs for. So please refrain from =
posting about it to the Van Halen mailing list or to any newsgroups. It =
should be ready to ship in two weeks and will most likely be a limited =
print run of 100 or so.
Other than that, I still have quite a few Dream Theater and Rush MP3 =
boots left, so feel free to look around. =3D) The URL is below my =
name.
Later,
Ryan Whitaker
Scarred Records
http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:41:51 EST
From: DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3572
Message-ID: <24a04282.34f49e31@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-25 15:38:51 EST, you write:
<< 18 inch bass drums ?!?!? What ? Man, why not just lay two plastic
<< buckets on their sides and use them ?? Most bass drums are like 22".
<< Both of mine are 24's .
<< Zildjian >>
Actually those 18 inch bass's sound really sweet.
ESH
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:14:21 -0200
From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jason Becker
Message-ID: <34CA75CD.E2838A76@geocities.com>
Hi there jammanoids!!!
No, I was not dead (yet), as some (1 or 2) of you might be thinking. :)
I don't know if there was any response to this one, but, WTF?. :)
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> From: Calvin6S@aol.com
> Subject: Jason Becker
blah, blah, blah about Jason Becker's "Perspective"...
First of all, Perspective has absolutely NO realationship (soundwise)
to Perpetual Burn (IMHO). They are two completely different concepts:
while PB is more "shred fest" (it's really cool :) ), Perspective is a
more "new agey" album (argh, that sounds horrible). It's a real piece of
art IM-not-so-HO.
Now, about getting the CD, I don't know why you're so damn desperate
about it. I bought it over the Internet, and I think most e-stores have
that CD in their catalogs. At least wjere I bought
(www.cdconnection.com) they had it in stock.
Now, making a U-turn on the subject... :)
Last week I came back from a half-round-the-world trip :), and I bought
some really cool stuff...
As I bought a lot, and most of them are really old albuns, I'll just
point the ones that most "touched" me. :)
Anyone who's into beatiful guitar playing SHOULD get Marty Friedman's
"Scenes" NOW!!! It's a very cool album.
Every new Savatage album I buy I get more impressed on them... man,
they're very cool. I brought some older stuff (I had all their newer
stuff, including "The Wake of Magellan", and, btw, is that a masterpiece
or what?), and they really rock.
Ah, enough writing. :)
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/------------------------------
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Jordan Rudess Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980225181840.27629I-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
Would anybody know what Rudess was using on the one DT show? And maybe could somebody get me a tape of it
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:32:43 -0200 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stratovarius Message-ID: <34CAA44B.B6D72409@geocities.com>
> ------------------------------ > From: jhough@jps.net > Subject: RE: Just got Stratovarius them like I did, check out TT first, then Dreamspace, then FN (If you can find it, I think it's out of print).
About this, if the CD is REALLY out of print, I think I was lucky, because I just bought it like 2 weeks ago at Tower Records (in Tokyo). It's a Japanese CD, released by Victor, so maybe they're still printing this album. I never saw that album seeling here in Brazil (where we get the - I suppose - european Noise Records releases), but can easily find all the others.
My favorite album is really "Episode", and I still don't have Twilight Time and Fourth Dimension. Although Timo Tolkki's vocal are far worse that Kotipelto's, :) , the music is still great (although I think FN needs some spins to get into). Great band indeed.
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:24:42 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Young Guitar Tab for FII Update Message-ID: <01BD424C.F2A9BD80@Pegasus.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Calvin6S@aol.com wrote :
> Here is a list of the people I sent a zip file of the FII Young Guitar > Tab and Pictures in GIF and JPEG format too. They PROMISED to put it > on a website, so I feel no guilt listing their email addresses. I WANT > you to bug each and everyone of them until they get it up on the > websites.
Ok kids, stop bugging me (kidding). Check it out (URL in my sig)
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 16:24:10 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: gerald_temple@smtp.scpboi.com, mattr1@earthlink.com, Subject: New CDs Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980225162309.0069f23c@postoffice.syspac.com>
I went down to the local Zia records today, and I found some rare KILLER CDs!! Check this out:
Cacaphony (Marty Friedman/Jason Becker) "Speed Metal Symphony" Marty Friedman "Scenes" Jason Becker "Perpetual Burn",
..and I almost bought the new Yngwie album (which I've heard is really good), until I saw "Sirens" by Savatage sitting on the shelf for $10. I had to get it! It's actually really good, Savatage sounds good doing thrash :)
All of these CDs are incredible, and if you like shred, fast soloing, melodic soloing, duet guitars, and all out speed, get Cacaphony. Get it now!! The early Savatage stuff is much better than I originally thought it would be. Kinda like "Power of the Night" or a really raw "Gutter Ballet" sped up very fast :). If you like slower, melodic guitar stuff, get the Marty and Jason solo CDs, but if you're a guitarist, you owe it to yourself to get all of these CDs :)
It's been a good metal day :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:08:34 -0800 From: "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3571 Message-ID: <34F4F896.2333@nji.com>
Dr. Mosh suggests:
> On the Eve of Destruction, Rick Audet said: > >Try http://www.knightsoftheround.com > > > >And while you're there getting Superior, pick up a couple of Symphony X > >albums too, like say, "The Damnation Game" and "The Diving Wings of > >Tragedy". :)
Sorry if this is old news, but they've just informed me that the new release "Twilight on Olympus" is now available. Check the new releases page and break out the credit cards!
Tim
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:22:07 EST From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yngwie's Personal Life Message-ID: <c4f02b2c.34f4d1f7@aol.com>
Hey all, I heard Yngwie gained some mass (not weight, mind you. weight is an object's mass multiplies by the constant of gravitational acceleration)ArrrghhhhHH!!! College Physics intruding on the Ytsejam!!!! Back! Back, I say!!:) Anyways, on Facing The Animal he looks thinner. I also read somewhere that he was trying to lose weight. Besides, he's always wearing that leaopard skin get up. And, Ive really never seen an obese leopard. So, common sense says it would behoove him to shed some kilograms. Other than that, though, Yngwie rules. Of all the great bands and musicians prevalent in the 80's , hes one of the few who hasnt shed his style for the sake of some populist, mainstream ideal. And thats good. One more thing...what happened to Amberdawn?? She isnt even mentioned on the new disc. There's a tune dedicated to an 'April' , though. Maybe after all the trouble he had with his mother-in-law he had to let her go....
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