YTSEJAM Digest 3445
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Lemur Voice
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
2) Re:Kevin Back????
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
3) pictures and james lights one up....no, really
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3444
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
5) Judas Priest on Tour
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3443
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
7) Re: Eve
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
8) Am I the only one?
by ALI ABBAS <a.abbas@lancaster.ac.uk>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3444
by Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3440
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
11) flotsam and jetsam
by "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu>
12) Smoke
by Jeroen Bakker <jbakker@bart.nl>
13) Re: Spock's Beard
by Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
14) I've heard more DT songs on the radio then most
by Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com>
15) Re: DS Trinity model
by "@@Damon Fibraio" <Damon74@cris.com>
16) Persuasion tape
by Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3443
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
18) Selling out like a ho
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
19) re: playing new stuff
by Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
20) Bone in my mouth, size of a boulder :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:40:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Lemur Voice
Message-ID: <199801121740.MAA17337@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
>
>
> >>I'm wondering which is the closest to DT <if that's possible<<
>
> I recomend Lemur Vioce "Insights". This album is a brilliant piece of
> work.
>
> Charlie.
>
I would also recommend Superior's "Behind". A another great
album that is similar to DT.
-Al
-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Her mouth is a soft explosion of roses A burst of raw animal definition For a few moments I was mortal......... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html------------------------------
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:50:25 EST From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Kevin Back???? Message-ID: <5fe449f4.34ba57e2@aol.com>
If it actually was Kevin, and if the only reason he wants back in is money, I don't want him!
Art
In a message dated 98-01-12 12:45:49 EST, you write:
<< I met Kevin on saturday around noon (local time mid-europe) on the Ytsejam channel. He mentioned he might be back with DT 'when the money is right' and he also said 'Derek won't last too long.' When I asked back: 'kidding or not?' he replied 'seriousely'!!!!!!! >>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:03:32 EST From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: pictures and james lights one up....no, really Message-ID: <9a7191c9.34ba5af5@aol.com>
to the people who've tried to explain to (one privately and one on here) that the "pictures at an exhibition" i mean is emerson, lake and palmer....thanks, but...i know that. i know that elp did actually 2 versions of it (one on the 1971 album) and the other one on their awesome box set. but- i also know that one of those two bands i mentioned (tangerine dream v. mahogany rush), and i think i just got my answer. metzger- you the mad, crazy ho, bi-otch! thanks.
ytsegoon
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi the new york law school thrak75@aol.com dkobayashi@nyls.edu
"can you hear me am i getting through? drowning in a silent sea or only dreaming?" -j. matheos ************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:12:18 EST From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3444 Message-ID: <92713fcc.34ba5d04@aol.com>
In a message dated 1/12/98 12:45:49, you wrote:
>Hi Jammers, > >I met Kevin on saturday around noon (local time mid-europe) on the Ytsejam >channel. He mentioned he might be back with DT 'when the money is right' >and he also said 'Derek won't last too long.' > >When I asked back: 'kidding or not?' he replied 'seriousely'!!!!!!!
lol.................rofl......................lmaoorofl! oh jesus. this might be the best post i've read in a while. not to this on whoever wrote this, but...you know......the odds of you actually having spoken to kevin are about the same as tripping and watching an elephant douche with my mother. i guess they're both possible, but not too common.
ytsegoon
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi the new york law school thrak75@aol.com dkobayashi@nyls.edu
"until the circle breaks and wisdom lies ahead, the faithful live Awake, the rest remain misled." -j. petrucci ************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 13:34:45 EST From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Judas Priest on Tour Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+54aioA@tcx.tcco.com>
I am getting tickets for the 2/6 Judas Priest show in NYC. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen them on their current tour because I don't know what to expect. The last time I saw them was over 10 years ago when they were on top of the metal charts with Screaming and Defenders...
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:32:53 -0700 From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3443 Message-ID: <34BA61D5.A75@goodnet.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > The total tally for the day was just over two thousand in gross > > revenue. Count off material/utility costs and such, and it's probably > > around four hundred in take-home > > Wow. And this means we should expect a price drop soon, or > does> this mean you're basically no different than any other bootleg > company, except that you tell us how much cash you're making? > Nothing personal... just business. > > Chris Ptacek
Boy Chris, you're a real dingus, aren't you? You just make assumptions and blow them all over the Jam. There HAS BEEN a price cut. ALREADY. The new DT double disc is $34 down from $40, and all future CDs will be in the new price structure. And the remaining titles will be adjusted in the months to come (with reimbursements of the price difference to anyone whose order is still in fulfillment). I always cut prices when it's economically feasible to do so, because not only does it boost sales, but people simply like their stuff more if they paid less for it, simple human nature. I would appreciate you checking out the FACTS next time before posting what amounts to a huge public insult to me on the Jam.
In fact, I can say to some accuracy at this point that it was BECAUSE of the price cut on DT:WTTW that I got the tremendous response for it that caused the amazing Saturday tally to begin with. It proves a seemingly illogical but infallible law of supply and demand: people will demand more at a lower price.
Unlike most businesspeople, I have thin skin and no life, and therefore Prism Records *IS* my life and anything about Prism is most definitely *personal*. I think the people who buy my creations would expect nothing less than that level of commitment.
-- - Mike Bahr / Prism Records - durnik @ goodnet . com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:37:41 -0500 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Eve Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980112133741.007ca3d0@mindspring.com>
>Well, It's done, fini, finished, terminated. > >Anyone interesting in checking out woot and I's re-recording of Eve over >this past weekend go to: http://www.cyberhighway.net/~washburn/Eve/ > >It's not a bad recording and was all digital. Just don't be too picky on >the mistakes, or I'll prompt you to do better. :)
I think it's great that you've put your work up on the web. I've always thought it'd be interesting to hear different Jammers showin' their chops on various DT, or other, songs. It's been a thread on and off through the years to do a fan album with Jammers playing DT songs. Tho' this may never be possible, I urge anyone who's recorded a DT (or related) song to put it up on the web for everyone to listen. If you need web space let me know... Take care all...
---------------------------------------- Adam Pye alpineone@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone ^^ Above URL for tapelist w/ setlists... ----------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:33:24 +0000 (GMT) From: ALI ABBAS <a.abbas@lancaster.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Am I the only one? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980112181749.8406A-100000@unixb.lancs.ac.uk>
Hey jammers, merry x'mas and all that. i just got back from a looong vacation and found some nice threads on the jam (surpeise! surprise!) I just wanted to mention something that I wanted your feedback on. As a couple of you know, I do lead vox for a prog band. I've found that some pot ( especially just before going on stage) really helps me hit high notes with a lot of ease,and i smoke some (even if i don't really feel like it) for doing 'special' songs ( e.g.covering UaGM). Is there anyone out there who can confirm this? And more interestingly, we know James has an amazing high octave voice and (correct me if I'm wrong) his smoking is limited to pot! Just sharing ..... - @66@$
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:07:25 EST From: Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3444 Message-ID: <d08507ae.34ba69ee@aol.com>
Hey--- I'm one of those who didn't get #'s 3425 & 3428- There was a bunch of jargon bullshit, followed by the blinking cursor. If there was anything worthwhile on those two, please e-mail me. If Kevin Moore is coming back to DT, does that mean that the search is on to find Charlie Dominici? :-) --- *NOT!* Why make up such a rumor if there is NO PROOF to back it up with? Furthermore, DS is really cool, so cut him some slack. Also, does anybody have a copy of Howard Stern reading Jackie Martling's resignation letter?
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3440 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980112111140.26617A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 someone@prognosis.com wrote:
> >> From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> >> Subject: You all kick giant ass!!! >> >> The total tally for the day was just over two thousand in gross >> revenue. Count off material/utility costs and such, and it's probably >> around four hundred in take-home > > Wow. And this means we should expect a price drop soon, or does >this mean you're basically no different than any other bootleg >company, except that you tell us how much cash you're making? > Nothing personal... just business. >
Actually, it means we'll get painted CD covers... or did you conevniently forget to read the *rest* of the post? Or maybe you were unable to, through some character flaw or physical disability... I dunno. Nothing personal, of course.
>Chris Ptacek >someone@prognosis.com >http://www.prognosis.com/madsman >Go Home and Practice! >
--Matt
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:37:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: flotsam and jetsam Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980112143254.26250A-100000@moose>
50+ unread jams and i ain't in the mood to read any.....i started at the last, and now apparently Labrie smokes pot......one question for those offended by that..... SFW?
and kevin returning for the money.....doubt that, won't believe it even if it actually happens......it's not always about the benjamins.....
about the subject band, F&J, why do i remember that name?? i saw their cuatro album in the dollar bin and grabbed it, not quite remembering why i remember their name.....it's decently listenable, metal better than warrant not quite up to metallica (old), although, they do try......
so, if anyone can remind me why I'd know that name, I'd be much obliged.....
partha
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:24:04 +0100 From: Jeroen Bakker <jbakker@bart.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Smoke Message-ID: <34BA6DD4.4C41587E@bart.nl>
Yo jammers,
I was very surprised by the reaction on my "I saw James smoke one" mail.
I totally agree that it is his, and my, choice, and if you smoke one once in a while, you are not a "pot head". I think in the Netherlands we are more "liberal" than in other country's. PLease lets end this discussion. last to say on this subject; the coffeshop was called; The Bulldog!
By the way, as much as I love DT, the album which influenced me most was JUDAS PRIEST - Unleashed in the East. For me this was a major blow back in the 70's. Anyone shares this xpierence??
C. U.
Jeroen
---- Life's a journey, not a destination ----
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:27:33 -0800 From: Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980112112733.006be78c@bhansen1.pobox.stanford.edu>
Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> wrote:
>>I bought some new CDs. >> >>Spock's Beard - The Light >>------------------------- >> >>Wonderful. I think I actually almost like this better >> than Beware of Darkness. >>Great lyrics. Neal Morse is a phenomenal songwriter. >>I am *really* looking >>forward to The Kindness of Strangers on the 26th of January.
I've had "The Kindness of Strangers" for a week now. It doesn't jump out at you like "The Light" does. But I reserve judgement until 100 listens...
As for "The Light", I think it's great. It's almost like they are paying tribute to their favorite bands. A lot of the song segments are styled after a given band, like "Running the Race" is a Steely Dan style song. I haven't identified all of the influences, but there's also an obvious Jethro Tull segment.
Anybody else catch these influences/references?
Q: The "storm raging, it'll be alright" part really reminds me of something, but I can't place it. Anybody know?
- BH
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:26:54 EST From: Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I've heard more DT songs on the radio then most Message-ID: <371df740.34ba6e80@aol.com>
Hey guys, I've been reading about how you all can't stand not hearing DT on the radio. I go to college in the Albany (NY) area, and there is a small station north of there broudcasting on 107.1. Since I have found this gem of a station, that seems to play every level of rock known to man at some point or another, I have heard DT songs such as:You not Me, Hollow Years, Peruvian Skies, Pull me Under, Silent Man, Lifting Shadows, Lie, Another Day, Surrounded, and Take the Time. There might be some others that I have missed, but thats all I have heard. The only problem is that I can't get the damn thing in clearly. If I drive E, W, or S, it disappears. North, it stays but still not clear. I have heard it as far north as Tupper Lake, NY. If anyone has any clue where this is coming from, fill me in.
Andrew
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:41:32 -0500 (EST) From: "@@Damon Fibraio" <Damon74@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DS Trinity model Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980112144118.1940C-100000@mariner.cris.com>
What the hell is the difference between all trinity models, the regular, plus, pro or xpro?
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:01:25 EST From: Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Persuasion tape Message-ID: <7eb1d6f2.34ba7696@aol.com>
> Maybe Metropolis is too much for a person that isn't exposed to >progressive music yet, right?
Here is where I disagree. It was one of the songs that introduced ME to progressive rock. My first-ever sound in this musically awesome field. And I definitely got hooked by it. This is also speaking as a girl, since you seemed to imply that girls liked "nicer" songs. And I LOVE the "sick instrumental" sections. They kick some serious ass. But I definitely agree that LtL and WFS should go on any persuasion tape.
Alex
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 06:15:59 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3443 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980113061559.006cde20@powerup.com.au>
>> Better to remain silent and be though[t] a fool, than to open your mouth >> and remove ALL doubt. - ? > >I think Abraham Lincoln said this, but I'm not sure.
I thought it was either Mark Twain or Oscar Wilde.
Or maybe not.
Spiff
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:29:51 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Selling out like a ho Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.980112151926.60922D-100000@acs6.bu.edu>
> >>You can't sell out if you can't sell. That's just the > way it works, dude. << > > I think you can. If a hooker stands on the corner trying to sell > herself, and no one picks her up, she is still a sellout.
Maybe she's just really unattractive. Take that little ho in Total Recall, for instance (that's right, the one with the three-tittied friend). Not many customers are likely to pick her up, but that doesn't make her a sellout. It just means that most dudes don't like little hoes.
See what I'm sayin'? :)
Wacky
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:28:13 EST From: Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: playing new stuff Message-ID: <d632e87a.34ba7cde@aol.com>
>When Rush gets up there, they want to play the new >stuff PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY'VE PLAYED THE OLD STUFF A BAZILLION >TIMES AND IT'S GETTING BORING TO THEM.
I think this is true of many bands. I found an interview with Ray Alder on the 'net the other day where in response to question asking particularly which songs would be played at an (at the time) upcoming tour, he specifically stated that they would play the new stuff, b/c the old stuff got "boring" and they had played it so many many times. He said playing a lot of the old stuff was uncomfortable b/c it was like looking at a picture of yourself 10 years ago (and esp for FW, since they had a different singer).
-A
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:38:39 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Just Let Me Bhong <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bone in my mouth, size of a boulder :) Message-ID: <34BA7F4F.31DF@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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Brandon:
> I'm pretty sure that what I said is true since I was hanging out with > James last night. He told me this while smoking his second pack of > cigarettes.
Those just looked like cigarettes. He put his dope in emptied out cigarettes, so no one would know.
DDTTs: DT is considered progressive by most on here, right? What if you found out they all smoked pot today. Would you be upset if, by the time next album came out, they hadn't progressed to the harder narcotic substances? Would you feel like they had sold out just to keep their relatively "straight" fan base? Is it possible that they're all on acid, and when they play, they hear everything they play in 4/4?
Hmmmm, that's about it for now, time to go re-up :):)
:)
*------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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