YTSEJAM Digest 3435
Today's Topics:
1) Music knowledge and DT
by "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
2) European MTV
by Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
3) re: DT Vocals, clarification
by Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
4) 6:00 MIDI file
by "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au>
5) Realaudio broadcast?
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
6) Can't access a prog page
by Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
7) Big Wreck playing for what they are worth
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
8) Re: Kix
by "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
9) WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE INFO
by Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
10) locations
by Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3433
by Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com>
12) Enuff is Z'nuff
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
13) Re: Enuff is Z'nuff
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
14) Read: Bitching and more....
by Beth Elzinga <liz@freenet.macatawa.org>
15) xmas CD ***spoilers***
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
16) (no subject)
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
17) CD's for trade, not sale.
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
18) Singing...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:17:51 PST
From: "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music knowledge and DT
Message-ID: <19980109231752.29319.qmail@hotmail.com>
> "It sounds too frantic, like they're just making it up on the spot."
> "Where's the friggin' beat?"
LOL! My roommates get sick of hearing stuff that doesn't suit itself to
dance music.
> "Very busy stuff. It's too confusing."
> "Why's the guitarist over-dubbing his own solo?"
> --when KM is mimicking JP
Heh heh.
>
>Do you have to be a musician (prof/amateur) to get into DT? I hope
>not.
Okay...heh heh...a few months ago we had this discussion, and there was
much flame-age. =) Let's just put it like this: if someone is speaking
like an 8 y/o suburban kid, you'll be able to understand them no matter
what your grasp of English is. If they're speaking the way a college
professor would when at an academic conference of some sort, you'd have
difficulty understanding them if you were the 8 y/o kid. The analogy
isn't perfect of course--I got into the band before I knew diddly-shit
about music--but IMHO when they pull out some of the technically
difficult stuff, if you're not prepared for it you can get lost very
very quickly.
Green Jello was hilarious. Kinda reminds of me of what Phish would be
like if they didn't have any talent and didn't have the jazz influence.
What the hell happened to them anyway? That video was funny as hell. =)
> Hey, I'm a musician!
>
> I play CDs very well.
LMFAO!! Good one Rogerio!
>> I think Phish did a song about DT's latest album many years
>> ago...anyone
>You Enjoy Myself? Fast Enough For You? Is this supposed to be easy
>to figure out?!!
I was wondering about that myself actually...heh heh. "You Enjoy Myself"
is probably the most prog-like song they've ever done...at least, that I
know of...*lol* Phish supposedly has over 700 songs in their
repetoire...
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:48:15 EST
From: Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: European MTV
Message-ID: <34ec1213.34b6b740@aol.com>
<< Hi folks!
The first time I heard DT was in '92 when I&W was released. It was a =
video=20
on European's MTV's ( I know it sucks...:-) ) Headbanger's Ball.
Hey, Stefan, at least they HAVE a Headbanger's Ball in Europe. We in the U.S.
must suffer through rap and pop shows without end. But yes, European MTV is
whack.
Alex
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 16:17:29 -0800
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: DT Vocals, clarification
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980109161729.006c1d64@bhansen1.pobox.stanford.edu>
I had originally posted about whether James singing "hi" or "low" might
make a difference for DT's commercial success. Just to clarify, I agree
with the posters who have indicated that a low "growly" sound doesn't fit
James voice. I think that his voice is good because of it's clarity, and I
prefer to hear him singing "cleanly", whether it's high or low. I was
thinking more of his "lower" singing as on SDV. I don't think that a move
towards an old James Hetfield style would help with commercial success/sales.
- BH
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:51:33 +1030
From: "Woolcock" <woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au>
To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 6:00 MIDI file
Message-ID: <199801100030.LAA09895@goliath.camtech.com.au>
Hey 'jammers (particularly Mark Bredius), my 6:00 MIDI File should be
available on Under A Cyber Moon now or at least pretty soon. Might do
another song from Awake next (that's the only album of got the book for).
Paul Humm:
> with it. You Not Me just does not appeal to me in any way. Period.
> It doesn't matter who wrote it; I've heard the song. I feel the same
> way about Innocence Faded, and Desmond Child had nothing to with that
I actually quite like Innocence Faded - It is probably one of the best
vocal performances by KJLB, and the 'Some will transcend spinning years'
part can blow you away in a similar way to how certain parts of
'Surrounded' do.
As for YNM, I like the song in the fact that it has quite a catchy tune,
but as with most songs on FII (not including LiTS and ToT), it is too
repetitive, with not enough time signature changes (IMO).
BTW, I worked out what IMO meant about 5 seconds after I posted my last
message. :)
And Eric Paul LaRue, get rid of your damned signature!!!!
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Shane Woolcock - woolcock@pl.camtech.net.au
WWW - http://rampage.ml.org/sector1/~samah/
"Lifting shadows off a Dream once broken
She can turn a drop of water into an ocean" - DT
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 19:35:07 -0800
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Realaudio broadcast?
Message-ID: <34B6EC6B.312D@dreamt.org>
Does anyone have the realaudio file of the show from the house of blues
that was supposedly broadcast up on their page? How about the bonus
tracks from the Japanese FII, mp3 format if you have it.
========================================================================
"Are you gonna bark all day, little -----
doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ----
bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ----
Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - --
"Years of pain I will take and hone - - - - - - -
Manifest with your broken bones - - -- - -- - -
My heart bleeds for none but my -- - - - - - - - --
own"-Machine Head ---- - - - ----
"None But My Own" ---- ------------- ----
Brian -----
DreamNDay@dreamt.org
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:52:17 EST
From: Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Can't access a prog page
Message-ID: <208e7425.34b6c644@aol.com>
Someone posted the following website for prog rock: PROG OR DIE -
www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/venue/1748/
I had had problems getting on this page before while browsing the net. This
time, I got the background of the page, but no links or anything. The server
wigs out whenever I try to get there. Any ideas what the problem is, and what
I could do to fix it?
Alex
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 20:27:03 -0500
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Big Wreck playing for what they are worth
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980110012703.006bfbdc@pop.pipeline.com>
All you DC area jammers who for some reason like Big Wreck will be
happy to find out that they are playing the New 9:30 club (I think
that's the venue) soon for a mere $1.01 on some DC101 promotion.
Go nuts.
CD of the Day: Coroner - Coroner
Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings
14-3 26-11-8
at San Francisco 49ers at Dallas Stars
Kevin
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:29:33 -0700
From: "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Kix
Message-ID: <01bd1d67$346f7a80$88e21ace@korgx3>
>>I could care less about Faster Pussycat or Enuf-z-nuff but how can you
>consider Kix a sellout?<<
Yah, I heard Kix went sugar coated after all those years of being just a
whole-grain, nutritious cereal that kids just added their own sugar to.
Just a way to cop some extra money I guess. Sugar coat anything and it
sells well.
Washburn
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 20:30:29 -0500
From: Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE INFO
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980109203029.006fe9c8@ct1.nai.net>
Hey All --
I'm just catching up on the last 5 'jams and I noticed that
someone mentioned something about seeing a listing for
a japanese import called WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE, a 2 cd set...
Well, I can confirm the existence of this 2 cd set.
It was basically put out by the same people responsible for
the demo series (Majesty Demos CD, Instrumental 1, 2, and 3,
No Sleep Since Brooklyn, Rising Power), etc....
It is a 2 CD SET which is as folows:
DISC 1: (all tracks live with james) (basically a boot of mr. Bahr's When
dream and today unite)
1. A Fortune in Lies
2. Status Seeker
3. Ytsejam
4. The Killing Hand
5. Light Fuse and Get Away
6. Afterlife
7. The Ones who Help to Set the Sun
8. Only a Matter of Time
9. To Live Forever
*HERE IS THE COOL PART*
*DISC 2:*
TRACKS 1-4 RECORDED IN THE STUDIO WHILE REHEARSING FOR A SHOW WITH IRON
MAIDEN...
1. Pull Me Under
2. Metropolis Part 1
3. A Fortune in Lies
4. Learning to Live
5. Caught In a Web
TRACKS 5-6 LIVE ON BRUCE DICKINSON BBS RADIO SHOW 1-29-95
6. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
7. 6:00
TRACK 8 LIVE WITH BRUCE DICKINSON ON LEAD VOCALS
8. Perfect Strangers
Anyways, I've known about and had this boot for about a month now, but I am
not a believer
in booting someone else's bootleg..especially song for song..to me that's
unoriginal...
Anyways I digress.... The 2nd CD is definately cool...and the in studio
rehearsal stuff is great....
If anyone is interested in getting this 2 CD set, I have it for $41 +
shipping...
Before you ask, I am not making more than gas to get to the post office and
ship it to you...
For those of you who already have Mike's WDATU, I can make you a custom
CD-R of the 2nd CD plus
I can throw on some extras to fill out the remaining time: (Like the new
demos, etc...)
I should have color scans of this set up on my webpage at
http://nw3.nai.net/~axe
Anyways If anyone is interested in this stuff, please let me know via email
Thanks..
Tim
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:57:48 EST
From: Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: locations
Message-ID: <855d8381.34b6d59d@aol.com>
jeff wrote
>>I'm not the guy you were askin, but I'm in Cinci. Been to any shows
lately?<<
the last 2 shows i was at were fates at annies, and DT in columbus.
its a small world after all
-melissa-
madsag@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:27:32 EST
From: Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3433
Message-ID: <16ffcb55.34b6eaa5@aol.com>
Does anyone know who to write to so I can get ytsejam merchandise? Also, does
anyone know if the L.S. fix/96 tees and baseball caps are still available, and
who do I order from?
I was in the record store last week, and there is a tentative release date
(not confirmed) for the LTE disc...Feb. 24. Look for the Union CD (Bruce
Kulick's new project f. John Corabi on lead vox) and/or the new VH disc on the
same day. Once again, though, this is unconfirmed.
By the way, are there any Howard Stern fans out there? I am looking for a copy
of him reading Jackie's resignation letter on the air. (You heard me
right---from what I heard, Jackie quit because I guess he felt he wasn't being
promoted enough)-- Howard took a day out of his vacation to go on the air live
and read this to his fans!!! Can you believe this???
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:28:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Enuff is Z'nuff
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980109221934.119884B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> >>I am really curious to hear how Enuff Z'Nuff sold out. I have
everything they've released and their style has remained intact throughout
the years.<<
>
> I don't feel like flaming, but here is my opinion. You ask, "How did
they sell out"? Maybe by dressing like women and coloring their hair
green. Let's not forget all the chessy pop, songs they have put out over
the years.
>
Does cheese= selling out? Does that mean that Kenny G. is a sellout? And
whose cheese are we talking about anyway?
> Trying to benifit on the sound of another IMHO is selling out. You may
disagree, but this is the way I see it.
This part really confuses me. What do you mean by "benefit?" Are you
referring to being "influenced" by someone? If so, than DT must be
sellouts, as is every musician playing today because everybody is
influencing everybody else. If you are referring to taking elements of a
genre and incorporating it into your own stuff, I would call that
"learning." But regardless of what you mean by "benifiting of the sound of
another," you originally labeled Enuff Z'Nuff as sellouts because of their
IMAGE (make-up, etc), not the music. So which is it?
I once heard Chip Z'Nuff on Howard Stern and he said that the image
> that the band "portrayed" hurt them in the long run. I feel that
> "portraying" is a form of selling out. When an artist "portrays" they
> stop being original. Let it be known, that I don't hate Enuff Z'Nuff,
> but I don't like them either. There are a lot of bands out there that
are 100 times worse (don't even get me started on Everclear).
>
No offense, but every band "portrays" an image to a certain extent, even
those that just wear jeans and t-shirts. That's called reality. I guess
every band is a sellout then (one could possibly make an argument for
that, I guess). And if a band happens to have an original image (ie. KISS,
though I'm sure someone here will disagree with me) are they selling out?
Richie
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 01:48:40 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Enuff is Z'nuff
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980110014756.29604A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Richard A. Rivera wrote:
> Does cheese= selling out? Does that mean that Kenny G. is a sellout? And
> whose cheese are we talking about anyway?
Camembert's? Roquefort's?
[]s eating cheese, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:01:13 -0500 From: Beth Elzinga <liz@freenet.macatawa.org> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Read: Bitching and more.... Message-ID: <01BD1D52.C2F805C0@pm5-09.macatawa.org>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:18:25 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: xmas CD ***spoilers*** Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980109201402.14009A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
OK. To all those that don't like the CD because it's not a lot of polished stuff you haven't heard, your insane! Crazy!!! Loco en la cabeza!!! I love it!!! Darick's piano solow before Anna Lee is fuckin' awsome!!! The influence that Mike had on Hell's kitchen was flawless. The kookiness of those kooks is fucking kooky and bad-ass. And Mike and band members who are reading this, thank god you're so patient. I don't know if I could do it, myself. Mike and Niel especially, as well as the rest of you wacky DT people, thanks a million for some really cool shit. Made me smile. Oh, and did only a few of us get the card-board cases for the CD instead of jewel boxes? I thought that was an awsome touch, though I did put the inserts into a jewel case along witht he CD to protect them. Be well. Matt B
"That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes; not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile... Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile, that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 15:29:59 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <34B6F947.1AD1C490@sydney.net>
Read: Bitching and more.... Please DO NOT respond to this thread
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:35:08 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD's for trade, not sale. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980109203153.14009D-100000@otter.mbay.net>
If anyone would like to trade me for Savatage's Streeets, Pearl Jam's Vitology, The Smitharines' something or other, Metalica's Load, or The Bevis and Butthead Experience, e-mail mattb@mbay.net please. Be well. Matt B
"That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes; not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile... Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile, that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:52:04 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Singing... Message-ID: <199801100452.XAA29784@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> from brian hansen: > >This brings up a question... When trying to introduce people to DT, I > often > >hear "I hate the vocals". And then they won't even give DT a chance. Do > >other people get this? > > brian's hitting on a good question here. two individuals to relate here > that i know: the first never liked the vocals, just sorta had a passsing > appreciation DT for the music. every time labrie hits a high note, she > sorta just cringes and shakes her head. like in the whole bridge > section of AL, the chorus of TAMP, etc. thing is, she's at least always > disliked labrie's voice. she represents the mainstream listener.
Ack! This kind of attitude disgusts me. And you're absolutely right, she DOES represent the mainstream listener. The mainstream listener doesn't like a technical singer because he/she feels that the singer is not really emoting, but hiding behind a skill.
> >Just a thought, but if DT wants more commercial success, maybe James > should use the lower end of his range more often...
Well, the reason you don'y hear too many popular music acts with a low-voiced singer is that there is just something about the lower end of the human voice that doesn't lend itlef to amplification, and face it, pop singing is an amplified medium. That's why so many singers in bands have to scream beyond their comfortable range--to be heard. Since it has been happening so long that screamy vocal sound has become a part of the rock/metal idiom. Then there are the exception on one end, like Brad Roberts. He didn't have to deal with a wall of blaring Marshalls, though. Then there's Brad Delp <two Brads...odd>. His voice is so naturally high <and technically flawless!> that it's just no problem. James, of course, falls into the latter category!
> with DT, though... boy, i don't know how i can say this without pissing > people off... labrie, when he moves away from the powerful higher > vibrato, doesn't strike me as all that powerful. in other words, when
That's cause he's a TENOR! :)
> KJLB sings in his masterful vibrato, like in Voices, LTL, Surrounded, > etc etc etc, it blows me away... but a lot of people find it whiney. i
These are the people whom I'd like to give a good shoe in the ass.
Steve Z
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