YTSEJAM digest 3430

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Jan 09 1998 - 04:11:50 EST

  • Next message: ytsejam@ax.com: "YTSEJAM digest 3429"

                                YTSEJAM Digest 3430

    Today's Topics:

      1) Liquid Tension Project
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
      2) Re: First Time You Heard DT
     by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
      3) What's my...
     by someone@prognosis.com
      4) Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL
     by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
      5) Quadrupple spacing
     by someone@prognosis.com
      6) Re: Liquid Tension Project
     by belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      7) A Few Tings To Blaze You Wif
     by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
      8) Re: Quadrupple spacing
     by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
      9) what??
     by Dave <buster@ee.net>
     10) When dream and James unite
     by Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
     11) Give the phone shit a rest.
     by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3426
     by Dave <buster@ee.net>
     13) NDTC, Stratovarius
     by "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
     14) The Porcelain Drum
     by "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
     15) TAMP/DS/LTE
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:54:45 -0500
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Liquid Tension Project
    Message-ID: <34B5BBA5.438E6688@ameritech.net>

    Is the Liquid Tension Project out now, or soon to be out? I haven't
    seen it yet. Do any of the online stores have it?

    Also, isn't LaBrie doing a side project too? What's it called, and is
    it out?

    Thanks,
     - Joe D.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 22:09:28 PST
    From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: First Time You Heard DT
    Message-ID: <19980109060930.14572.qmail@hotmail.com>

    For me, it was when I was watching the Headbanger's Ball on MTV when
    they were in Seattle for the listening party preceding the release of
    QR's "Promised Land." They played "Lie," and having seen a commerical
    for Awake, I decided to record it onto my video collection.(Also
    collected the videos for "Empire" and "I Am I" by QR as well as "Down In
    It" by Nine Inch Nails. :-) ) From that, I just thought they were
    another hard rock band.

    Later, after I had seriously gotten into QR, I was randomly looking
    through my mom's record club magazine, and saw both Awake and Change of
    Seasons. I only ordered Awake, though. When I got it and listened to
    it, by the time I got to "The Mirror," I thought, "Okay, I understand
    now. They're Queensryche on steroids!" With this in mind, the two most
    lovely DT ballads, LSoaD and SDV just blew me away.(Oh, wait, WFS is
    just a hair moreso. Sorry.)

    I was just casually going to add to my DT collection until at Phi Mu
    Alpha informal rush, one of the actives(who would later become my big
    brother) heard me mention Queensryche, asked if I had heard of Dream
    Theater, and we got into a discussion about them. I then decided to get
    Images and Words, which I loved! The rest, as they say, is
    history.(Although I'd love to tell it!)

    And now I'll be attending their alma mater! WOO-HOO!!!

    Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a
    kiss,

    Eric Paul LaRue

    "Take hold of the flame.

    Don't you see life's a game?

    So take hold of the flame.

    You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"

    Queensryche-"Take Hold of the Flame"

    http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289

    "That's it! Genie, MAKE ME A GOD!!!" Liquid Television-Genie Junkie

    ______________________________________________________
    Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:19:15 +0000
    From: someone@prognosis.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: What's my...
    Message-ID: <199801090612.WAA27241@odin.ax.com>

    My favorite DT moment was when I realized that I could give a shit
    about anyone's first DT experience, and knew for certain that
    testicular cancer is spreading like butter on the proverbial pancakes
    of Kevin Moore's "More Talented Than Derek" sack.

    In other news: Nothing. There has been almost nothing of value in
    major prog music in the last couple months, with the exception that
    DT is slaying whole planets at each of these most killer shows.

    Anyone who knows something about a hot new band (and DON'T SAY
    RHAPSODY, because they are NOT IT) pulleeze, enlighten me, for I am
    sinking into "a cacophony of doom filled sorrow!" (Buckethead) I
    need some fresh new music... still waiting on those slackers in
    Symphony X and Shadow Gallery (Come on, guys... do you need ME to
    finish those lackluster guitar performances, or stun you with my
    double bass drumming and virtuouso keyboard work? I also have a 12
    octave vocal range that will break both glass and wind on command...
    let's get these fucking albums out already!)...

    For the shredders present, I'm almost done with the revamped Ron Thal
    site, at it's new location:

            http://www.prognosis.com/bumblefoot

    Most notably, I now have samples from all of Thal's full releases,
    including his new album "Hands" and his Sega Saturn soundtrack from
    the game "Wild Woody." Ron is no longer really "Prog" in the sense
    that he was on his first album, but those who are openminded, will
    probably really love his music... very humorous, and hard hitting.
    And yes, he can shred the ass end off a rampaging mammoth.

    Chris Ptacek
    someone@prognosis.com
    http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
    Go Home and Practice!

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:08:56 -0600
    From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL
    Message-ID: <34B5BEF8.4585@auburn.net>

    shenanigan@45150.com wrote...
    >
    > Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL has this stuff mail-order. They changed
    > the name of their company to Rokkage Records or something like that.

    Heheh - I know the woman that runs this outfit. When I was living on the
    Alabama/Florida line a friend and I made the drive to Montgomery so we
    could browse the stock and save shipping charges. It turned out that it
    is an operation run out of the spare room in her house! She was very
    friendly about it, though, and she let us hang out in her house for two
    hours. I bought Rush "Electric" on vinyl there for $16, among other
    things. It's a reputable operation, if you want to buy something from
    her.

    Take care all,
    Mark Peters
    swifty@auburn.net

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:28:42 +0000
    From: someone@prognosis.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Quadrupple spacing
    Message-ID: <199801090621.WAA27397@odin.ax.com>

    Wow

    This wastes bandwidth.

    I picked a great time to start reading the jam again.

    - Keeper of the Lore of the Double Fannucci

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:23:14 -0500 (EST)
    From: belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Liquid Tension Project
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.980109012205.8284A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Joe DeAngelo wrote:

    > Is the Liquid Tension Project out now, or soon to be out? I haven't
    > seen it yet. Do any of the online stores have it?

    It's not out yet. Probably due in February but most likely March.

    > Also, isn't LaBrie doing a side project too? What's it called, and is
    > it out?

    This is news to me. Anyone care to shed light into this?

    Brandon

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:43:38 EST
    From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: A Few Tings To Blaze You Wif
    Message-ID: <a28183d2.34b5c71b@aol.com>

    I think Phish did a song about DT's latest album many years ago...anyone
    remember what it was called??

    Re: DT changing their setlists and adding "variety."

    Pick a tour DT has done or is currently doing. Any tour. Now write out a list
    of all the things they played live that weren't/aren't found on any of their
    albums. (Yes this includes Nirvana's "Come As You Are!") I can't complain
    about hearing the same DT songs night after night if they also do a Deep
    Purple cover one night, a Hendrix cover another night, a Nirvana cover another
    night, a fast as all hell remix of "Ytsejam" every night, an extra solo in
    "Scarred" every night, etc. etc. etc. Keep in mind that (1) there are always
    songs in the DT repertoire that get switched around, i.e. from their current
    tour "Under A Glass Moon," and (2) many times DT will only cover a song a few
    times, then a few nights later you begin hearing other stuff.

    Ex: "Damage Inc." was fun while it lasted, but I don't think they'll ever play
    it live again. For a one-time-only performance, I think "Bombay Vindaloo"
    kicks huge big ass. And when was the last time LaBrie repeated "What is this,
    a fucking circus?!"

    Re: Recordings of past shows.

    Now that Falling has been released, I'd like to know if anyone recorded any of
    the shows over winter of 1996, and/or anything from the recent FII tour. If
    anyone has done this, let me know. E me plea.

    Re: Pat Griffin.

    Is this lunatic still alive? E-MAIL ME, PAT!! I've had your tapes done since
    the second night I got to MD...which would be November 3rd, 1997. :)

    Re: JLMB keys and geetar.

    The keyboard and guitar are not switching off during the solo. Both
    instruments play through the entire thing. It's not one track being panned
    back and forth, what is heard are actually separate tracks recorded
    individually in the left and right channels. The volume is what changes for
    each instrument. It's illusions, all illusions, just like that damned
    Copperfield. Lara could break out of that stupid underwater cage, and she
    wouldn't even need goofy-looking assistants...

    Re: "writing" and "lyrics."

    If a song says "Lyrics by Jack Ass" and "Music by The Entire Band" it doesn't
    mean "Jack Ass wrote the entire song because Jack Ass wrote the words." If
    there is anything to be learned from the "Making of FII" disc, it's that DT's
    music is a collaborative effort. (In particular I cannot stand listening to
    the "Hell's Kitchen" track. I got through it once, and it was agonizing!! :) )
    One person may come in with the lyrics and a few melodies or chord
    progressions, but the sounds are from everyone.

    Re: The Dust Pan Ghost.

    Anyone know what the hell this refers to yet?

    Bafu Vai

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 17:41:28 +1000
    From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Quadrupple spacing
    Message-ID: <34B5C698.495BE73B@sydney.net>

    someone@prognosis.com wrote:
    >
    > Wow
    >
    > This wastes bandwidth.
    >

    One more time, you have been asked nicely...........
    Yes Eric La Rue you are guilty of this, stop wasting bandwidth
    with you overlong signature and quadruple spacing.

    graham

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 02:00:06 -0500
    From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: what??
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980109020006.00691028@ee.net>

    >Ok, last time. Metallica DIDN'T sell out, Queensryche DID

    How the FUCK did you come up with THAT equation??

    Man....I'm not even gonna go to all those places, but re-load?
    "Leftover material" to make a "new" Cd?

    Give me a fucking break...

    buster

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:05:03 +0100
    From: Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: When dream and James unite
    Message-ID: <34B5CC1F.15DD64FF@worldonline.nl>

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    --------------DBDF42ACA4F3F3195BF8E1D4
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

    I have a question for anybody on this list with
    access to some inside information.

    I work at a record shop and skipping through the
    database of our supplier I say an upcoming title
    by Dream theater. Its is called When dream and James unite.

    Can someone enlighten me?
    It is an double japanese Cd.

    Henri Serton
    hserton@worldonline.nl
    --------------DBDF42ACA4F3F3195BF8E1D4
    Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Description: Card for Henri Serton
    Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf"

    begin: vcard
    fn: Henri Serton
    n: Serton;Henri
    adr: ;;;Eindhoven;;;Netherlands
    email;internet: hserton@worldonline.nl
    note: http://home.worldonline.nl/~hserton/
    x-mozilla-cpt: ;0
    x-mozilla-html: TRUE
    version: 2.1
    end: vcard

    --------------DBDF42ACA4F3F3195BF8E1D4
    Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Description: Card for Henri Serton
    Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf"

    begin: vcard
    fn: Henri Serton
    n: Serton;Henri
    adr: ;;;Eindhoven;;;Netherlands
    email;internet: hserton@worldonline.nl
    note: http://home.worldonline.nl/~hserton/
    x-mozilla-cpt: ;0
    x-mozilla-html: TRUE
    version: 2.1
    end: vcard

    --------------DBDF42ACA4F3F3195BF8E1D4--

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:18:39 -0800 (PST)
    From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Give the phone shit a rest.
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980108231632.17678A-100000@otter.mbay.net>

    To the people who are posting all this shit about the phone companies,
         This shit was posted last year around the same time. It turned out
    to be something that had been under un-serious consideration for a long
    time. It's not a hoax, but a silly mis-understanding. Spare the damn
    jam. There's too many useless psts already.
    Matt B

    "That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes;
    not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile...
    Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a
    thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile,
    that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 02:27:14 -0500
    From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3426
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980109022714.0068e698@ee.net>

    >Eric Heisserer wrote:
    >
    >> Hi gang. New Jammer here. I'm curious to hear how / if everyone was
    >> affected the first time you ever heard Dream Theater... Do you remember the
    >> moment?

    It's a long story but most of the veteran jammers know it so I'll keep
    it quick.

    It was at the Newport in Columbus OH, Halloween 1994. I had a huge
    burn on my knee so I started drinking a lot of beer before the band
    even came on, so I could "numb" the pain.

    They opened with "Pull Me Under" and I thought "wow, they're using
    a sample??" because it sounded so perfect, but it was really them playing.
    I was in awe within the first 30 seconds of the show, and by the second
    song all the kinks were worked out and they were cooking. I couldnt
    believe they were playing the stuff note for note with no mistakes, I
    had to see it live to believe it. They were amazing to say the least.

    OK, now its the 4th song and my bladder is about to explode from the
    beer. I have to piss so bad it hurts, and wouldnt ya know it, there is
    a line to the restroom. I needed to find a place to tend to my blistering
    knee and relieve my aching bladder. I notice a door next to the bar leading
    into a small ally. No one is out there, so I slip outside and start to wiz
    behind a dumpster. The Newport security guards arrive at my location
    during "mid-stream". Im standing there with my pecker in my hand and 3
    guards are out to make an example of me. I begged them to let me stay,
    said I just couldnt hold it any longer, and offered them money to let
    me back in. No luck. They were assholes popping steroids AND bored...bad
    combination.
    They threw me and my girlfriend out, all the while putting on this act
    like I was a real trouble maker...pushing me, swearing and yelling, all
    the way out the door. You woulda thought I showed up with a gun and
    attacked someone by the way they treated me.

    The moral? DT is a true wonder to see live, but don't piss during the
    show or you may miss the rest of it like me :(

    buster
    http://users1.ee.net/buster/
    http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/

    ------------------------------

    Date: 9 Jan 98 10:09:04 +0200
    From: "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
    To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: NDTC, Stratovarius
    Message-ID: <002142C8060000010103EB875F042E@mail.logisware.fi>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids....

    Just a comment or two...

    >From: "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
    >Subject: A variety of things, and some DTC for once

    >Stratovarius, "Episode": I have heard some really good things about this
    >band. Going by this CD, I'm confused. Some of the tracks blew my
    >mind....these guys are *fast.* But that's about all they've got going
    >for them. The chord progressions are probably what really hurts it. I
    >mean, they're all predictable, and I was really never surprised by
    >anything on this album, other than the pure speed on some of the tracks,
    >and the fact that there were real choirs and strings used instead of
    >keys....speaking of keys, the harpsichord sound that appears
    >occasionally is interesting, but didn't appear often enough to be an

    If you would like less predictability, get yourself a copy of "Visions", it
    has their most progressive song, Visions (Southern Cross) on it. If you're
    into that harpsichord sound, get yourself a copy of "Visions", there's a
    track called "Black Diamond", which is FULL of that harpsichord sound. :)
    If you're hungry for more Strato information, (time for a shameless plug,
    TA-DAH!) surf to Stratovarius' "Visions" WWW site at www.netti.fi/~beavis/
    or just ask me. :)

    >important aspect of the band's style. The guitarist is insane, he's very
    >good, and the vocals are more than competent. (Is it just me, or does he
    >sound like Geoff Tate?) The drummer's fills were pretty boring, when he

    Actually it sounds like Timo Kotipelto, who sounds like a lot of other
    high-pitched metal singers, who all sound like Geoff Tate. :) Well, despite
    the relatively low mark you gave this album, this could be one of the kindest
    compliments to the singer, who was a Geoff Tate fan before Geoff started
    smoking. Mind you, everything concerning Stratovarius on this list will end
    up in their mailboxes, eventually. :)

    >did them....overall, I'd say this band has mucho potential, and they
    >just need to get away from J.S. Bach. I mean, I swear, the "circle"
    >progression (where you move by fourths until you finally reach tonic) is
    >something they abuse the fuck out of...anyway, if they have any albums
    >which have a bit more variety to them (the riff is a tool which is
    >overused by just about any avergae metal bands...) somebody please tell
    >me =) 6.5/10

    Thankee.

    _Mape_

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:09:59 -0700
    From: "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: The Porcelain Drum
    Message-ID: <01bd1cd5$fad644c0$9ae21ace@korgx3>

    >>Do you remember the moment?

    It was a dark and stormy night in Manhattan. I was enjoying a Hawaiian
    pizza at Ferdonelli's Manhattan Eatery when I was overcome with a serious
    gastral disorder. I ran for the bathroom like my life was on the line (at
    the time I thought it was). As I jumped in a stall and did my duty, I heard
    this strange tapping coming from the stall next to mine. I listened to the
    rhythmn and began tapping a counter rhythmn when I hear a "What the fuck?"
    and I got worried. I pinched it off and started out of the stall but there
    was this big hairy dude with an M in a circle tatooed on his arm leering at
    me. I thought I was done for when he says, "That was fuckin unbelievable!
    I've been noodling with that for days and couldn't think of what to do with
    it!" Anyway, I never got his name, and forgot to flush the toilet, but
    strangely I had a sense of Deja Vu when I turned on the radio one day and
    heard a drum beat from a song called Take The Time by Dream Theater.
    Strange how things work out, ain't it?

    Washburn, Master Porcelain Drummer.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:51:55 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: TAMP/DS/LTE
    Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980109085155Z-18073@ms.Kallback.com>

    >> >Does anyone know if the alternate version of Take Away My Pain is the same
    >>as
    >> >the demo version from the Japanese FII?
    I wrote:
    >> Nope. The alt. version (xmas cd track 15) has a completely different
    >> first verse than the demo and the one on FII (which have the same first
    >> verse).
    I must correct myself a little. The first verse is not COMPLETELY
    different.
    The Gene Kelly part is the same.
    > Also on the Xmas CD 97, notice Derek's piano solo thingy near the end.
    Especially the neo-baroque part before the EJ riffs. I think that would
    sound great
    as an extended into to AL.
    >
    >i have been trying to find a copy of the portnoy/petrucci/bozzio/et cetera
    >CD,
    >Liquid Tension Experiment....so far, zero luck. can anyone help me out here?
    I don't think it's out for a couple more weeks, but you can send $15.98
    to
    Magna Carta Records:
    http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/

    Trevor
    "I want my 2 dollars!"
    >

    ------------------------------

    End of YTSEJAM Digest 3430
    **************************



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 18:06:58 EST