YTSEJAM Digest 3430
Today's Topics:
1) Liquid Tension Project
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
2) Re: First Time You Heard DT
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
3) What's my...
by someone@prognosis.com
4) Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
5) Quadrupple spacing
by someone@prognosis.com
6) Re: Liquid Tension Project
by belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) A Few Tings To Blaze You Wif
by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
8) Re: Quadrupple spacing
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
9) what??
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
10) When dream and James unite
by Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
11) Give the phone shit a rest.
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3426
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
13) NDTC, Stratovarius
by "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
14) The Porcelain Drum
by "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
15) TAMP/DS/LTE
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:54:45 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Liquid Tension Project
Message-ID: <34B5BBA5.438E6688@ameritech.net>
Is the Liquid Tension Project out now, or soon to be out? I haven't
seen it yet. Do any of the online stores have it?
Also, isn't LaBrie doing a side project too? What's it called, and is
it out?
Thanks,
- Joe D.
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 22:09:28 PST
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: First Time You Heard DT
Message-ID: <19980109060930.14572.qmail@hotmail.com>
For me, it was when I was watching the Headbanger's Ball on MTV when
they were in Seattle for the listening party preceding the release of
QR's "Promised Land." They played "Lie," and having seen a commerical
for Awake, I decided to record it onto my video collection.(Also
collected the videos for "Empire" and "I Am I" by QR as well as "Down In
It" by Nine Inch Nails. :-) ) From that, I just thought they were
another hard rock band.
Later, after I had seriously gotten into QR, I was randomly looking
through my mom's record club magazine, and saw both Awake and Change of
Seasons. I only ordered Awake, though. When I got it and listened to
it, by the time I got to "The Mirror," I thought, "Okay, I understand
now. They're Queensryche on steroids!" With this in mind, the two most
lovely DT ballads, LSoaD and SDV just blew me away.(Oh, wait, WFS is
just a hair moreso. Sorry.)
I was just casually going to add to my DT collection until at Phi Mu
Alpha informal rush, one of the actives(who would later become my big
brother) heard me mention Queensryche, asked if I had heard of Dream
Theater, and we got into a discussion about them. I then decided to get
Images and Words, which I loved! The rest, as they say, is
history.(Although I'd love to tell it!)
And now I'll be attending their alma mater! WOO-HOO!!!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a
kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensryche-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"That's it! Genie, MAKE ME A GOD!!!" Liquid Television-Genie Junkie
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:19:15 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: What's my...
Message-ID: <199801090612.WAA27241@odin.ax.com>
My favorite DT moment was when I realized that I could give a shit
about anyone's first DT experience, and knew for certain that
testicular cancer is spreading like butter on the proverbial pancakes
of Kevin Moore's "More Talented Than Derek" sack.
In other news: Nothing. There has been almost nothing of value in
major prog music in the last couple months, with the exception that
DT is slaying whole planets at each of these most killer shows.
Anyone who knows something about a hot new band (and DON'T SAY
RHAPSODY, because they are NOT IT) pulleeze, enlighten me, for I am
sinking into "a cacophony of doom filled sorrow!" (Buckethead) I
need some fresh new music... still waiting on those slackers in
Symphony X and Shadow Gallery (Come on, guys... do you need ME to
finish those lackluster guitar performances, or stun you with my
double bass drumming and virtuouso keyboard work? I also have a 12
octave vocal range that will break both glass and wind on command...
let's get these fucking albums out already!)...
For the shredders present, I'm almost done with the revamped Ron Thal
site, at it's new location:
http://www.prognosis.com/bumblefoot
Most notably, I now have samples from all of Thal's full releases,
including his new album "Hands" and his Sega Saturn soundtrack from
the game "Wild Woody." Ron is no longer really "Prog" in the sense
that he was on his first album, but those who are openminded, will
probably really love his music... very humorous, and hard hitting.
And yes, he can shred the ass end off a rampaging mammoth.
Chris Ptacek
someone@prognosis.com
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:08:56 -0600
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL
Message-ID: <34B5BEF8.4585@auburn.net>
shenanigan@45150.com wrote...
>
> Fantasy Records in Montgomery, AL has this stuff mail-order. They changed
> the name of their company to Rokkage Records or something like that.
Heheh - I know the woman that runs this outfit. When I was living on the
Alabama/Florida line a friend and I made the drive to Montgomery so we
could browse the stock and save shipping charges. It turned out that it
is an operation run out of the spare room in her house! She was very
friendly about it, though, and she let us hang out in her house for two
hours. I bought Rush "Electric" on vinyl there for $16, among other
things. It's a reputable operation, if you want to buy something from
her.
Take care all,
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:28:42 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quadrupple spacing
Message-ID: <199801090621.WAA27397@odin.ax.com>
Wow
This wastes bandwidth.
I picked a great time to start reading the jam again.
- Keeper of the Lore of the Double Fannucci
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:23:14 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Liquid Tension Project
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.980109012205.8284A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Joe DeAngelo wrote:
> Is the Liquid Tension Project out now, or soon to be out? I haven't
> seen it yet. Do any of the online stores have it?
It's not out yet. Probably due in February but most likely March.
> Also, isn't LaBrie doing a side project too? What's it called, and is
> it out?
This is news to me. Anyone care to shed light into this?
Brandon
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:43:38 EST
From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Few Tings To Blaze You Wif
Message-ID: <a28183d2.34b5c71b@aol.com>
I think Phish did a song about DT's latest album many years ago...anyone
remember what it was called??
Re: DT changing their setlists and adding "variety."
Pick a tour DT has done or is currently doing. Any tour. Now write out a list
of all the things they played live that weren't/aren't found on any of their
albums. (Yes this includes Nirvana's "Come As You Are!") I can't complain
about hearing the same DT songs night after night if they also do a Deep
Purple cover one night, a Hendrix cover another night, a Nirvana cover another
night, a fast as all hell remix of "Ytsejam" every night, an extra solo in
"Scarred" every night, etc. etc. etc. Keep in mind that (1) there are always
songs in the DT repertoire that get switched around, i.e. from their current
tour "Under A Glass Moon," and (2) many times DT will only cover a song a few
times, then a few nights later you begin hearing other stuff.
Ex: "Damage Inc." was fun while it lasted, but I don't think they'll ever play
it live again. For a one-time-only performance, I think "Bombay Vindaloo"
kicks huge big ass. And when was the last time LaBrie repeated "What is this,
a fucking circus?!"
Re: Recordings of past shows.
Now that Falling has been released, I'd like to know if anyone recorded any of
the shows over winter of 1996, and/or anything from the recent FII tour. If
anyone has done this, let me know. E me plea.
Re: Pat Griffin.
Is this lunatic still alive? E-MAIL ME, PAT!! I've had your tapes done since
the second night I got to MD...which would be November 3rd, 1997. :)
Re: JLMB keys and geetar.
The keyboard and guitar are not switching off during the solo. Both
instruments play through the entire thing. It's not one track being panned
back and forth, what is heard are actually separate tracks recorded
individually in the left and right channels. The volume is what changes for
each instrument. It's illusions, all illusions, just like that damned
Copperfield. Lara could break out of that stupid underwater cage, and she
wouldn't even need goofy-looking assistants...
Re: "writing" and "lyrics."
If a song says "Lyrics by Jack Ass" and "Music by The Entire Band" it doesn't
mean "Jack Ass wrote the entire song because Jack Ass wrote the words." If
there is anything to be learned from the "Making of FII" disc, it's that DT's
music is a collaborative effort. (In particular I cannot stand listening to
the "Hell's Kitchen" track. I got through it once, and it was agonizing!! :) )
One person may come in with the lyrics and a few melodies or chord
progressions, but the sounds are from everyone.
Re: The Dust Pan Ghost.
Anyone know what the hell this refers to yet?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 17:41:28 +1000
From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Quadrupple spacing
Message-ID: <34B5C698.495BE73B@sydney.net>
someone@prognosis.com wrote:
>
> Wow
>
> This wastes bandwidth.
>
One more time, you have been asked nicely...........
Yes Eric La Rue you are guilty of this, stop wasting bandwidth
with you overlong signature and quadruple spacing.
graham
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 02:00:06 -0500
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: what??
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980109020006.00691028@ee.net>
>Ok, last time. Metallica DIDN'T sell out, Queensryche DID
How the FUCK did you come up with THAT equation??
Man....I'm not even gonna go to all those places, but re-load?
"Leftover material" to make a "new" Cd?
Give me a fucking break...
buster
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 08:05:03 +0100
From: Henri Serton <hserton@worldonline.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: When dream and James unite
Message-ID: <34B5CC1F.15DD64FF@worldonline.nl>
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I have a question for anybody on this list with
access to some inside information.
I work at a record shop and skipping through the
database of our supplier I say an upcoming title
by Dream theater. Its is called When dream and James unite.
Can someone enlighten me?
It is an double japanese Cd.
Henri Serton
hserton@worldonline.nl
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:18:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Give the phone shit a rest.
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980108231632.17678A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
To the people who are posting all this shit about the phone companies,
This shit was posted last year around the same time. It turned out
to be something that had been under un-serious consideration for a long
time. It's not a hoax, but a silly mis-understanding. Spare the damn
jam. There's too many useless psts already.
Matt B
"That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes;
not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile...
Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a
thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile,
that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 02:27:14 -0500
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3426
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980109022714.0068e698@ee.net>
>Eric Heisserer wrote:
>
>> Hi gang. New Jammer here. I'm curious to hear how / if everyone was
>> affected the first time you ever heard Dream Theater... Do you remember the
>> moment?
It's a long story but most of the veteran jammers know it so I'll keep
it quick.
It was at the Newport in Columbus OH, Halloween 1994. I had a huge
burn on my knee so I started drinking a lot of beer before the band
even came on, so I could "numb" the pain.
They opened with "Pull Me Under" and I thought "wow, they're using
a sample??" because it sounded so perfect, but it was really them playing.
I was in awe within the first 30 seconds of the show, and by the second
song all the kinks were worked out and they were cooking. I couldnt
believe they were playing the stuff note for note with no mistakes, I
had to see it live to believe it. They were amazing to say the least.
OK, now its the 4th song and my bladder is about to explode from the
beer. I have to piss so bad it hurts, and wouldnt ya know it, there is
a line to the restroom. I needed to find a place to tend to my blistering
knee and relieve my aching bladder. I notice a door next to the bar leading
into a small ally. No one is out there, so I slip outside and start to wiz
behind a dumpster. The Newport security guards arrive at my location
during "mid-stream". Im standing there with my pecker in my hand and 3
guards are out to make an example of me. I begged them to let me stay,
said I just couldnt hold it any longer, and offered them money to let
me back in. No luck. They were assholes popping steroids AND bored...bad
combination.
They threw me and my girlfriend out, all the while putting on this act
like I was a real trouble maker...pushing me, swearing and yelling, all
the way out the door. You woulda thought I showed up with a gun and
attacked someone by the way they treated me.
The moral? DT is a true wonder to see live, but don't piss during the
show or you may miss the rest of it like me :(
buster
http://users1.ee.net/buster/
http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: 9 Jan 98 10:09:04 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NDTC, Stratovarius
Message-ID: <002142C8060000010103EB875F042E@mail.logisware.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids....
Just a comment or two...
>From: "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
>Subject: A variety of things, and some DTC for once
>Stratovarius, "Episode": I have heard some really good things about this
>band. Going by this CD, I'm confused. Some of the tracks blew my
>mind....these guys are *fast.* But that's about all they've got going
>for them. The chord progressions are probably what really hurts it. I
>mean, they're all predictable, and I was really never surprised by
>anything on this album, other than the pure speed on some of the tracks,
>and the fact that there were real choirs and strings used instead of
>keys....speaking of keys, the harpsichord sound that appears
>occasionally is interesting, but didn't appear often enough to be an
If you would like less predictability, get yourself a copy of "Visions", it
has their most progressive song, Visions (Southern Cross) on it. If you're
into that harpsichord sound, get yourself a copy of "Visions", there's a
track called "Black Diamond", which is FULL of that harpsichord sound. :)
If you're hungry for more Strato information, (time for a shameless plug,
TA-DAH!) surf to Stratovarius' "Visions" WWW site at www.netti.fi/~beavis/
or just ask me. :)
>important aspect of the band's style. The guitarist is insane, he's very
>good, and the vocals are more than competent. (Is it just me, or does he
>sound like Geoff Tate?) The drummer's fills were pretty boring, when he
Actually it sounds like Timo Kotipelto, who sounds like a lot of other
high-pitched metal singers, who all sound like Geoff Tate. :) Well, despite
the relatively low mark you gave this album, this could be one of the kindest
compliments to the singer, who was a Geoff Tate fan before Geoff started
smoking. Mind you, everything concerning Stratovarius on this list will end
up in their mailboxes, eventually. :)
>did them....overall, I'd say this band has mucho potential, and they
>just need to get away from J.S. Bach. I mean, I swear, the "circle"
>progression (where you move by fourths until you finally reach tonic) is
>something they abuse the fuck out of...anyway, if they have any albums
>which have a bit more variety to them (the riff is a tool which is
>overused by just about any avergae metal bands...) somebody please tell
>me =) 6.5/10
Thankee.
_Mape_
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:09:59 -0700
From: "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Porcelain Drum
Message-ID: <01bd1cd5$fad644c0$9ae21ace@korgx3>
>>Do you remember the moment?
It was a dark and stormy night in Manhattan. I was enjoying a Hawaiian
pizza at Ferdonelli's Manhattan Eatery when I was overcome with a serious
gastral disorder. I ran for the bathroom like my life was on the line (at
the time I thought it was). As I jumped in a stall and did my duty, I heard
this strange tapping coming from the stall next to mine. I listened to the
rhythmn and began tapping a counter rhythmn when I hear a "What the fuck?"
and I got worried. I pinched it off and started out of the stall but there
was this big hairy dude with an M in a circle tatooed on his arm leering at
me. I thought I was done for when he says, "That was fuckin unbelievable!
I've been noodling with that for days and couldn't think of what to do with
it!" Anyway, I never got his name, and forgot to flush the toilet, but
strangely I had a sense of Deja Vu when I turned on the radio one day and
heard a drum beat from a song called Take The Time by Dream Theater.
Strange how things work out, ain't it?
Washburn, Master Porcelain Drummer.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:51:55 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: TAMP/DS/LTE
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980109085155Z-18073@ms.Kallback.com>
>> >Does anyone know if the alternate version of Take Away My Pain is the same
>>as
>> >the demo version from the Japanese FII?
I wrote:
>> Nope. The alt. version (xmas cd track 15) has a completely different
>> first verse than the demo and the one on FII (which have the same first
>> verse).
I must correct myself a little. The first verse is not COMPLETELY
different.
The Gene Kelly part is the same.
> Also on the Xmas CD 97, notice Derek's piano solo thingy near the end.
Especially the neo-baroque part before the EJ riffs. I think that would
sound great
as an extended into to AL.
>
>i have been trying to find a copy of the portnoy/petrucci/bozzio/et cetera
>CD,
>Liquid Tension Experiment....so far, zero luck. can anyone help me out here?
I don't think it's out for a couple more weeks, but you can send $15.98
to
Magna Carta Records:
http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/
Trevor
"I want my 2 dollars!"
>
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