YTSEJAM Digest 3426
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DerShe's vs. KevMo's style
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
2) Read: YTSEJAM digest 3425
by "Kaplan Philip" <KaplanPhil@bah.com>
3) Re: Calling all sickos
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) Re: RES: Emerson's Lake and Palmetto Sanctuary
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
5) Jewel Case
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
6) Re: Calling all sickos
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
7) Read: Bitching and more....
by Eric S P Barker <EBarker@NBCI.Net>
8) Read: Bitching and more....
by Daniel Murphy <garthman@cco.caltech.edu>
9) Read: Bitching and more....
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
10) First Time You Heard DT
by Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org>
11) Imagining DT in the Studio...
by Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org>
12) Commercial
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
13) Christmas CD (spoilers i suppose)
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
14) Howard Stern Help
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
15) Re: Bitching and more....
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
16) Not read: Bitching and more....
by Daniel Reynard <tripwire@sparknet.net>
17) Re: First Time You Heard DT
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 16:03:33 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DerShe's vs. KevMo's style
Message-ID: <34b54d2e6421002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <199801081749.NAA11993@dragon.acadiau.ca>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
>
>
> Luke wrote:
> > It's called a pitch bender AFAIK, I don't know about Derek 'cause I have
> > yet to see them live, but couldn't Kev pull of some wicked shit with
> > this thing ?
> Yes, he sure could, and in my opinion, he did a lot more considering the
> equipment he used. A lot of Derek's sound comes from something that
> really takes no skill -- the Prophecy and Trinity have a pressure
> sensitive ribbon that produced things like harmonics, filter sweeps, and
> feedback type sounds. Kevin used a Korg DW-8000 from the mid-80s that had
> only a joystick (pitch bending and vibrato), but still made some very
> interesting sounds. I think Kevin was a much more PURE keyboard player.
I really love both of them, depending on what I'm in the mood for, but I have to
say this: why do things the hard way if you don't have to? I mean, it would be
kind of cheesy for the other four members of the band to go up there and play to
a tape of the keyboard, but as long as the guy is actually playing, who cares if
he takes advantage of the tools available? I'd take that as a sign of a *good*
player, not a poor one - somebody who can take full advantage of what's
available.
-Brian
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"The way your heart beats makes all the difference in learning to live...
I won't give up till I've no more to give."
-John Myung
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Coleridge on IRC
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:13 -0500
From: "Kaplan Philip" <KaplanPhil@bah.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Read: YTSEJAM digest 3425
Message-ID: <B094E43D9B87D11181370060080350C6@hamltnpo4a.bah.com>
Your Message To: Kaplan Philip(MS:HAMILTON/HAMLTNPO4A/KaplanPhil)
Entitled: YTSEJAM digest 3425
And Sent On: 1998-01-08 17:08
Was Read At: 1998-01-08 17:04
Priority: C
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 16:05:26 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Calling all sickos
Message-ID: <34b54da3651c004@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <01BD1C34.8931A090@pcnga.software-ag.de>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Any people out there with a sick sense of humour who are interested in
> some Sonny Bono/Michael Kennedy jokes should contact me privately.
I'm interested!
-Brian
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"The way your heart beats makes all the difference in learning to live...
I won't give up till I've no more to give."
-John Myung
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Coleridge on IRC
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 16:09:35 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: RES: Emerson's Lake and Palmetto Sanctuary
Message-ID: <34b54e9e1157002@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of
<E093B0819442D111AD45002048089A6F3BF510@itapoa.datasul.com.br>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
> It was the first time I listened to a show that had a
> better sound quality alive than on TV... The sound was clear!!!
Really? When I saw them open for Jethro Tull in Minneapolis a few year ago, the
sound was awful. Depends on the venue, I guess. The only thing that could really
be heard when I saw them was the keyboard. It was just a big mess o' noise.
Emerson is definitely a showman, though! Throwing that organ all over the place
and dancin' on it.
-Brian
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"The way your heart beats makes all the difference in learning to live...
I won't give up till I've no more to give."
-John Myung
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Coleridge on IRC
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:10:13 -0800
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jewel Case
Message-ID: <34B578E0.4FF6@dreamt.org>
> Since I got my CD on Tuesday, I have been waiting for someone to bitch
> about the CD coming without a jewel case :) In my experiences jewel
> cases
> that are send in a normal envelope have a very good chance of arriving
> in a 100 pieces.
Actually, I think the reason for this is because the fan club is located
in England and there are people all over the world in the club, probably
a lot in the US, I would expect, and it would cost a FORTUNE to send all
those CDs overseas with jewel cases. Fuck, I'm so happy I got my CD,
since I haven't renewed my subscribtion yet. I got 2 CDs for my $15!
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 16:10:57 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Calling all sickos
Message-ID: <34b54ef052f3002@mhub0.tc.umn.edu>
Dammit, I hit the send button too quick, that should have been private. Sorry!
> Responding to the message of <01BD1C34.8931A090@pcnga.software-ag.de>
> from ytsejam@ax.com:
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Any people out there with a sick sense of humour who are interested in
> > some Sonny Bono/Michael Kennedy jokes should contact me privately.
>
> I'm interested!
>
> -Brian
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:21:50 -0700
From: Eric S P Barker <EBarker@NBCI.Net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Read: Bitching and more....
Message-ID: <01BD1C49.257BC2A0@Production1.NBCI.Net>
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:30:22 -0800
From: Daniel Murphy <garthman@cco.caltech.edu>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Read: Bitching and more....
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:30:18 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Read: Bitching and more....
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:37:04 -0600
From: Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: First Time You Heard DT
Message-ID: <l03020900b0daaf20f666@[205.219.25.58]>
Hi gang. New Jammer here. I'm curious to hear how / if everyone was
affected the first time you ever heard Dream Theater... Do you remember the
moment?
Me, I moved to Houston from some podunk town in OK, hadn't heard anything
progressive except for Yes and Rush. However, I've had six years of music
class, and four years of drumming on a beat-up Whitehall set. I sucked,
but I knew enough to appreciate the people with real talent.
One day a friend of mine put Awake in the player as I was driving us to
lunch. "Erotomania" started up.
Holy shit. That was an adrenalin surge. I think I was shaking when we got
out of the car. That night I went to a big record store and bought I&W and
Awake. Now I'm addicted. What an intro into Prog rock...
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Eric Heisserer
APQC
erich@apqc.org
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:46:39 -0600
From: Eric Heisserer <erich@apqc.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Imagining DT in the Studio...
Message-ID: <l03020901b0dab1216f15@[205.219.25.58]>
There are points in many DT songs that attract my attention so much I end
up imagining what these guys were saying/doing in the studio. Now is that
bizzare fan-addiction or what?
Fer instance: the KM/JP solo "duets" in the middle of Met.Pt 1 or even near
the end of LtL, I can see them having so much fun matching each other
note-for-note, giving each other those looks like--
"I'm keeping up with ya!"
"Oh yeah, well how 'bout some of *this* action?"
"I gotta wah-bar, baby--it's called a pitch wheel!"
"Try this on for size!"
Or off FII, that neat part in HK when Derek starts on keys, then JP says,
"Hey, whatcha doin' over there, Derek? Let me try that..."
Boom. Perfect unison. None of my friends catch that it's two instruments.
And then Myung says,
"Hi guys, what's goin--oh, I can do that."
Boom. They're all at it. Kick ass.
Of course, the feeling probably wears off for them, they play so much it
comes naturally, but that's what I see when I hear those coordinated
moments...
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Eric Heisserer
APQC
erich@apqc.org
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:44:12 -0400
From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Commercial
Message-ID: <85256586.007C2B12.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
>>Doesn't selling out mean going mainstream and selling lots of CD's and
becoming unbelievably popular, lots of radio play, MTv, etc....<<
No. That is selling out and getting lucky! I believe selling out is the
act of TRYING to crate something just in hopes of making it or making it
bigger. You can be a poor sell out. Look at Kix, Faster Pussycat, and
Enuf-Z-Nuff.
I am tired of people stating that a band must make lots of money in order
to be commercial. Does that mean that when Michael Jackson writes a song,
it isn't commercial until it makes a million dollars. If Michael Jackson
never sold an album, his material would still be commercial.
Charlie
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:48:07 -0700
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Christmas CD (spoilers i suppose)
Message-ID: <000301bd1c87$7f892920$522746cf@sir.micron.net>
I just got the CD in the mail and after 1 listen It might just be my
favorite DT CD ever. Obviously the musicians will like it better just ca=
use
we know how it is, but I think everyone should enjoy this stuff. It seem=
s
like Myung didn't get as much coverage as the rest of the guys, but that'=
s
cause Mike was in charge and Mike and JM don't know each other all that
well. :) I'm not really sure how anyone could possibly be disappointed w=
ith
this though. Any explanations from the people in that camp would be
appreciated.
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot=99 from Blammo!=AE
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:49:50 -0400
From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Howard Stern Help
Message-ID: <85256586.007BAA6C.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
>>If there are any Howard Stern fans out there, I'm looking
for a copy of the reading of Jackie Martling's resignation letter! <<
Jackie resigned??????? Man I didn't know this. I am in Atlanta and we
don't get the Howard Stern show, and we don't even get E. I am previously
from NY, so I am in a Howard Stern withdrawal.
Does anyone know a good Howard Web site that will fill me in on all the
important Howard News.
>>Do any of you think Scott did the required 17 push-ups??<<
Scott couldn't do a single pushup, never mind 17. That guy has such little
will power, I wouldn't be surprised to find him dead in a year or so from
all the ciggs he smokes. I am not wishing death on him, it just seems
unavoidable. Scott = Chris Farley.
Charlie
P.S. Did you ever hear the clip of Howard ripping DT apart? I heard it
when driving to work one day, and it made me cringe. If you want to hear
more let me know.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:59:28 -0800
From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Bitching and more....
Message-ID: <199801082301.PAA16970@baygate.bayarea.net>
> The funny thing is, is that if he was never mentioned in the liner notes
> how many of you "raggers" would even know the difference and without
> hearing the demo version. Just because one person helped or suggested or
> added constructive criticism to a very talented band doesn't mean the band
> has failed or recorded a poor tune.
> I would be willing to bet that if he was never mentioned alot of you
> "critics" would have a different view of the song.
You have a valid point, but in my case, I thought that You Not Me was
a very weak song BEFORE I EVER LOOKED AT THE LINER NOTES and realized
that it was written with outside "help". I agree that bringing
someone in from outside to co-write a song is not NECESSARILY a bad
thing; some bands have written some very cool songs this way.
However, after listening to "You OR Me" and "You NOT Me" back to
back, it's pretty clear (in my opinion) that in this case the outside
help WAS a mistake.
> Please get over it........
Hey, in four full-length albums (five if you count the Majesty demos)
and one EP, Dream Theater has only released 3 or 4 songs that I'm not
totally crazy about. That's a far better track record than most
bands who's CDs I own, which is a big part of the reason why Dream
Theater is easily one of my all-time favorite bands. So when I say
that I don't like You Not Me, please take that statement in the
proper context.
Paul
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Paul Humm
humm@levy.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:58:15 -0600
From: Daniel Reynard <tripwire@sparknet.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Not read: Bitching and more....
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:58:35 -0400
From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: First Time You Heard DT
Message-ID: <34B55A1A.F54227D8@caribe.net>
Eric Heisserer wrote:
> Hi gang. New Jammer here. I'm curious to hear how / if everyone was
> affected the first time you ever heard Dream Theater... Do you remember the
> moment?
I remember it was 94' i was in 9th grade in high schoool...a friend of mine
lent me awake, which I "heard" but not really listened to..and i hated the
vocals.. so i threw it in the back of my moms mini van..
then about a year later...he lent me images and words..and strangely..i loved
it... bought acos on cd, then the back catalogue respectively.. and ..the rest
is history
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