YTSEJAM Digest 3414
Today's Topics:
1) Jaxx Show, and South Park
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
2) jaxx PS
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
3) Big Wreck
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
4) dreamthater
by Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
5) Jaxx Show
by Jason Birzer <Longshot@pressroom.com>
6) Question for MP
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2847
by James.Bustos@abq.sc.philips.com
8) XMAS CD
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
9) Nature/Nurture :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
10) DC jammers.
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
11) DT in Plainview review (spoilers)
by Sharan Volin <sharan@pobox.com>
12) Video killed the radio star
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
13) songs on radio?
by Mitch_Foy@45150.com (Mitchell Foy)
14) Re: X-Mas CD
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3411
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3412
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
17) Re: Mumblings and Jumblings
by belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3411
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydey.net>
19) Re: I'm back for a bit
by belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:59:03 -0400
From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jaxx Show, and South Park
Message-ID: <85256583.00718D54.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
Paul,
I didn't know that you were taking a trip to Jaxx. Oh well, that is
what I get for not reading the Jam for about a week. Man, it sure
took a while to catch up with the weeks worth of Jams. Next
time, make sure you e-mail me before taking a trip!. Then
again now that you have met me, I can count on you avoiding
me :) When you get the chance, we need more details Paul.
>>there's an exit off I-95 for a road named Southpark
Boulevard in southern Virgina -- and there's Southpark Mall
right next to thehighway, too. <<
I stayed there a few months ago (September), when I was
driving to Atlanta from New York. I was freaking out and
only my wife knew what I was so excited about (Maybe a
should change that last sentence.........). I don't even think
anyone else knew about the show, so they were looking
at me like I was crazy.
>>One of the worst-designed freeway exits and intersections
I've ever seen, but it wouldn't have been Southpark without that.<<
You couldn't be more correct. I got off I-95 becuase there was
a sign that said this exit for hotels. I had to drive about 10 to
15 minutes to another highway for the same hotel advertised
on I-95.
Charlie.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:11:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: jaxx PS
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980105161000.2460Q-100000@bdmserver>
Mike wrote:
>> So we wait in line. It's not cold. Under 21
>dude in front of us is sweating getting in the club.
>
>And he didn't. Virginia's alcohol laws are draconian...
Um, he did later... We saw him later on and he was inside. While we were
in line he mentioned that the drum tech or something said he could get
in. I guess he may have gone in the back door or something...
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: |
| "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide |
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:16:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Big Wreck
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980105161300.2460S-100000@bdmserver>
I think Kevin Madden and I figured out why DT's management doesn't let
any local acts open the show. The opener might be a better match for DT and
actually more than likely be better than Big Wreck who the label is
trying to sell cds for.
m-o-n-e-y
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| Upon the murder scene of a NY Yankee fan at Camden Yards: |
| "I didn't know that was illegal in Baltimore"-Munch on Homicide |
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:29:56 EST
From: Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dreamthater
Message-ID: <2f03cfc9.34b150d6@aol.com>
hey does anyone know what Kevin Moore ( former member of dreamtheater) is up
to now? or what he's been doing? i love his songs esp. space dye vest. <awake>
i also think john.P is really good too.silent man <awake> all though i think
thier ( DT ) best was Images and Words. thier the best.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:51:51 -0500
From: Jason Birzer <Longshot@pressroom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jaxx Show
Message-ID: <5702.980105@pressroom.com>
I'm sorry I couldn't go to the Jaxx show with you guys. I had another
commitment this weekend. It looks like I missed the better show. I'm
sure they will be back again next summer. I hope to see some of you
at the FG show in Baltimore on Thursday.
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Jason Birzer There is a theory which states that if anyone
"The Longshot" discovers what the Universe is for and why it
is here, it will instantly disappear and be
Longshot@Pressroom.com replaced by something even more bizarre and
inexplicable. There is another theory which
states that this has already happened -Douglas Adams
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:07:13 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'heavymetal.guide@miningco.com'" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
Cc: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Question for MP
Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9FE2B3EF@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> I will be doing an interview with Mike Portnoy this week. If anyone
>> has questions they'd like asked, just let me know. I'll do my best
>> to work them all in.
I know that this will sound like I am unappreciative, but that's not the
case. In fact, for all the clowns that will be firing off scathing
e-mails about how you live in south New Mexico or East Buttfuck and how
I should feel lucky just to see them once, let alone more than once, PUT
A LID ON IT ALREADY. If you dont like the fact that you live in East
Buttfuck, either MOVE or recall that the rent is nasty cheap !!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I have now seen DT in all of their four NE shows within the last 2-3
months. Each show was great in its own way. Trust me. I love seeing
them, that's why I go. But why is it that they play virtually the same
setlist at each show (except for some very unfortunate deletions every
now and again) ?? I fully understand that when a band is promoting a
new CD, they need to put their best foot forward and play the better 5-6
songs off the new CD. Fine. I also understand that some songs probably
may to be played every night regardless of anything (read: PMU). Fine.
But, I think that they should play at least 4-5 different songs when
they have recently played in an area as a kind gesture to their more
loyal fans who travel to see as many of their shows as possible. Our
number is larger than they may think.
The last show I went to was in Hartford this weekend which is within 1.5
hours of Providence, New Haven and Boston each. All places that they
have just played within the last said 2-3 months. While YNM and
Electric TSM were nice additions, why not spice things up more, eh ??
If not change the songs, at least the ordering.
When I went to NL in April 97 to see the three shows there, they only
did a single song substitution on one of the three nights !! And that
was the second night in a row at the same venue !! Of course, since it
was ToT, it was great, but you get the point.
On the Home for the Holidays tour, they played the firetrap known as the
El-N-Gee two times within a week and they played about 80% different
material the second night. Tres mucho beuenos, amigos !! So they
(including DS) CAN do it. So why not go for it ??
If I were in a band, I would get bored as a fuck playing the same songs
every show. These guys are not stupid mindless grungers, they are DT !!
Keep yourself mentally stimulated so you dont wear out.
REPEAT: I know that this will sound like I am unappreciative, but
that's not the case.
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
I know that they sound bass heavy live, but I am not that good at
picking up my garbage .......... :)
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:18:14 -0700
From: James.Bustos@abq.sc.philips.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2847
Message-ID: <98010515181471@abq87d.abq.sc.philips.com>
Hook me up.........
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 18:24:16 -0500
From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: XMAS CD
Message-ID: <34B16BA0.348E31A1@caribe.net>
Whohhhoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT MY XMAS
CD!! IT RULES!!!!
--In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229 --
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:45:03 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Just Let Me Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Nature/Nurture :) Message-ID: <34B1626F.4487@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
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> It's the nature of the beast I am afraid, DT fans seen to be really > picky and only expect nothing less than perfection from the boys.
Yes, *SOME* DT fans are...
It's ok, though, we understand the nature of the beast, and we move on, looking for the next problem :)
By the way, does anyone else happen to think The Way It Used To Be satisfies? :)
Regards,
Jon
*------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:43:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: "Yzerjam: the Mailing list for DT/Red Wing Fans Worldwide" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DC jammers. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980105174020.23586B-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
I'll be down in DC from Tuesday night to Saturday, so I thought I'd see if there are any Jammers down thataway who might want to get together for some eats some afternoon or evening? Send me an email if you are interested, I'll be checking all week.
-jeremy
+=====================================================================+ Every man, you see, is born beneath the sword Damocles, For young and old are all alive on that next beat on which we ride, And that beat is such a fragile thing, in both old men and youthful king, And that beat stands all alone, you see, between us and black eternity, And until that time, when death won't wait, let each man rage against, his fate.-- Savatage _The Wake of Magellan_ +=====================================================================+ Jeremy Hallum Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 17:40:53 -0500 From: Sharan Volin <sharan@pobox.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in Plainview review (spoilers) Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980105174053.008453c0@mail.dm.net>
Well, I went to see them last night, and decided to post a review this time.
Wow. This was the third time I've seen them (I drove up to New Haven for the first show this tour, and saw them 2 years ago during the Home For The Holidays dates here at the Malibu night club), and it was the first time I got anywhere near the stage. I went early (6:30) thinking I'd get a good spot, and the front of the stage was already packed! I managed to get a decent spot where I could see. The music they were playing (I learned later it was Liquid Tension Experiment) sounded great. I wasn't really into Big Wreck, but near the end JP, DS, and MP all came out and played with them. The audience actually seemed to like Big Wreck. I kept hearing people yell out "Big Wreck!"
Well, I wound up having to head to the bathroom during the break, which meant losing my spot, but I made it back to somewhere in the same area. I had a few tall guys in front of me, but managed to get away from them when the show started so I could actually see:). (I was over on the side of the stage near John Petrucci.)
The show from then on was great! I was having too much fun and never looked at my watch once, but I heard later the show went on for 3 hours! I don't remember the exact set list (although someone else posted it), but they played most of FII. The encore was amazing: Trial of Tears and Metropolis. I thought it was the first time they've played Trial of Tears, but I later heard from one of the band members that they played it once in Holland.
After the show I heard people calling "Bafu!" and went over to them, and met Chris Merlo and a bunch of other Jammers. (Jim, I was looking for you but never did find you:).) Security started kicking us out, but Chris gave me an extra backstage pass (Thanks again!:) )
Backstage, I got to meet everyone except Derek, and they were all really friendly. Especially John Myung: I went over to get him to autograph my CDs, but the pen I had wasn't writing. I usually carry a sharpie, but since I just got back from Arizona a few days ago, things got moved around a lot with my pocketbook:(. He told me he'd be back up, and went downstairs and came back with a sharpie! (If anyone happens to talk to him, thank him for me!:) ) Luckily most of the other already had sharpies, and were happy to sign autographs.
One interesting thing: I noticed Mike Portnoy carrying a CD by a local prog band Eye Of The Storm that someone had given him, and commented that it's a great CD. I know I'd mentioned it in ICQ chat once, and I wonder if the person I recommended it to is the one who gave it to him:).
Well, it was a great show, and a great place for them to play. I hope they play there again when they come around again (and I'm not just saying it because I LIVE in Plainview<grin>). It was really nice to meet all the Jammers I did meet. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sharan Volin sharan@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~sharan Musicians Online: http://pobox.com/~sharan/musiconline/ Local Rock: http://pobox.com/~localrock/localrock.html -------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 23:33:02 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: Just Let Me Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Video killed the radio star Message-ID: <34B16DAE.6201@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> Have to agree here totally. These are very pointless posts, IMO. Even > if I read one about a radio station playing DT in my area, I'm not gonna > listen to it 24-7 hoping to hear some DT. I'll just put the CD in when > I want to hear DT.
And if I'm stuck in the tunnel in rush hour traffic in my CD-less truck? I happened to start listening to a station I had all but given up on, when someone on here mentioned that they (they being WAAF, nya nya :) started playing YNM. Persoanlly it's a nice surprise to hear it...
I know what to do when I see a post *I* consider pointless...
It's called the PAGE DOWN key. USE IT!
-- *------------*----------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*----------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:45:11 -0500 From: Mitch_Foy@45150.com (Mitchell Foy) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: songs on radio? Message-ID: <v01530505b0d711b34e54@[209.50.100.146]>
>>Pardon me, but, IMO, it is a completely different situation, >>feeling when you hear songs from your favorite (or top 10 favorites, for >>that matter) on the radio and when you put the CD in your player.
You're right. There's the static, the dj's stupid comments, them cutting it off at the end...
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:48:00 EST From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: X-Mas CD Message-ID: <42cb02f9.34b17134@aol.com>
Howdy -
Just a quick note here to say a huge THANK YOU to the dudes from Dream Theater and the International Fan Club for putting out the X-Mas CD! I think that the cat's been let out of the bag before, but I won't spoil it for those who don't know the contents. ;-) I must, however, rave at how awesome the CD insert and tray cards are! This thing was very nicely put together, and it is greatly appreciated. Just BEAUTIFUL!!
Thanks again. Later, all...
- Matt T.
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 18:55:43 -0500 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3411 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980105185543.006a7af4@postoffice.ptd.net>
At 08:26 PM 1/4/98 -0800, you wrote: > At first, I was not able to put my finger on what bugged me about > FII. In fact, it took me all of three months.
I still haven't. But my first listen or two (I brought the CD home and played it three times in a row) - since which most of the album has, as I expected it to, grown on me - was sure disappointing.
> The other songs all showed off the musical talent we've > all come to expect from DT but still, something was missing.
Kevin Moore??
> Don't get me wrong, I still respect DT a lot. I am still a hardcore > fan and I hope that these guys will get the recongnition they > deserve. The way I see it, I can stand a few ALs or HYs or even > "The Silent man"'s on an album if it ensures a futur for the band > and great music for years to come.
As long as they keep it down to a few. I also hope they get more recognition - I'm really happy to hear that they've been getting more airplay.
> It a shame though, that after > three years or so of waiting for this new album to come out we, the > dedicated fans, were only allowed 20 or 30 minutes of bliss on a 78 > minute album.
Looking forward to Metropolis, pt. II . . .
> This, I repeat is only my opinion and haviong expressed it, I feel > better.
I think you hit the nail on the head, my friend.
cArPe DiEm, -bRiAn- ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:07:04 -0500 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3412 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980105190704.006b00d4@postoffice.ptd.net>
At 10:18 AM 1/5/98 -0800, you wrote: >Yo yo jamas, > I got a question. Does anyone know what kind of wa pedals Petrucci >uses besidesCry-babies? Some of them sound pretty different, and for a >guy whose ears aren't sensative to the subtleties yet, it would be cool to >know. Be well. >Matt B
I know he's got at least one effects processor in his rack, and his floorboard has two pedals that can be assigned to different parameters of the effects - maybe the processor includes a wah effect which he assigned to one of the pedals for one of his solo sounds?? (I do the same thing.) It's just a guess.
cArPe DiEm, -bRiAn-
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:10:20 -0500 (EST) From: belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mumblings and Jumblings Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.980105190602.3821A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Nigel Bridgeman wrote:
> I'm not sure how to phrase my response here. I don't have all that much > respect for someone who joins a fan club just to get a CD. It's free - you > didn't pay your money for the CD, you paid to join the fan club. If > someone joined the fan club just for a CD and then they are disappointed by > it, then tough shit. If you joined the fan club because you're a fan and > you wanted to be kept up to date with news, etc, and you're disappointed > with whatever services, etc, that the fan club offers, then you have reason > to complain.
I can't speak for others, but I'm sure many joined the fanclub just for the CD. Why else really? Any hot news that one is looking for can be found right here on the jam. I used to be a member of the fsnclub and the news in the Fanzine was sometimes outdated by the time it came to my door.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:22:04 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydey.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3411 Message-ID: <34B1792C.C78FCC12@sydey.net>
> > It a shame though, that after > > three years or so of waiting for this new album to come out we, the > > dedicated fans, were only allowed 20 or 30 minutes of bliss on a 78 > > minute album.
What a load of fucking bollocks, you speak for all the dedicated fans ? I don't think so, I concider myself to be a 'dedicated fan' and I like every song on FII, granted some more than others. If you can only find '20 or 30 minutes of bliss' then that's your problem :)
graham
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:49:07 -0500 (EST) From: belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: I'm back for a bit Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.980105194807.7157A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU wrote:
> Oh yes, and they played Trial of Tears. You guys probably didn't care > about that, did you? :) Mike later said we were the first to hear it live.
Well, it was played in Europe in early 1997 (although slightly different).
Brandon
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