YTSEJAM Digest 3409
Today's Topics:
1) Hartford show - thoughts/moments
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
2) Quake/II Clan
by CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net>
3) Re:hartford
by ReikiFox <ReikiFox@aol.com>
4) online CD shops...
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
5) DT in Metal Edge (DTC!)
by Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com>
6) APSOG, kinda funny (NDTC)
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
7) Ozric Tentacles - Curious Corn
by fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
8) DTIFC CD has arrived
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3407
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
10) CD For Sale
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
11) did you hear?
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Remote control and guitar
by Leif Edling <leif@hotmail.com>
13) Queensryche box set
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@Walden.MO.NET>
14) Progressive rock/metal CDs for barter/sale!
by Erik Gorissen <egorissen@online-club.de>
15) Hypocritical Mr.Brito NO SPOILERS
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
16) SPOILER: Hartford
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
17) re: Skipping DT songs
by yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
18) DT airplay
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
19) (NDTC) Good Marillion album to start with?
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
20) Ticket query -- DT in NY
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
21) Apology
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
22) Apology
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
23) Apology
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
24) Apology
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 10:20:18 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hartford show - thoughts/moments
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980103102018.00799480@ici.net>
While it's still fresh in my mind (and ringing in my ears), I thought I'd
share some thoughts about th DT show last night in Hartford:
* KJLB and the Mystery Microphone: About 3 or 4 times during the first half
of the show, KJLB came back to the stage after an instrumental passage and
his mic wasn't working. I don't think it was the mic itself, it seemed to
be that the sound guy had dropped the level and forgotten to bring it back
up or something. Labrie went postal the last time, throwing the mic stand
and megaphone across the stage. He didn't let that affect the rest of his
performance, though. Very professional.
* Mike Portnoy's vocals: Both Mike and JP were doing backup vocals, and it
adds a lot to the songs. Mike got the added plus of getting to sing part of
JLMB while Labrie was ripping the sound guy a new one during the
aforementioned incident. Mike didn't sound half bad either. He also mouthed
the "Please don't go!" during ACOS.
* John Petrucci as The Guitar Master: It's just so intimidating to watch
this guy play sometimes. He makes playing look so damn effortless. I'm used
to guitarists on stage contorting and doing all kinds o' funky shit during
solos. JP just stares out over the crowd with the look of "I AM the guitar.
You will all bow before me, as you are not worthy."
* Derek's histrionics: On the other end of the spectrum, we had Derek. I
just don't know about that guy. :) I really want to like him. I love his
studio work with the band, but his live presentation is just so
over-the-top that I can't help but wonder about "style over substance". I
feel like a great musician doesn't have to try and grab my attention with
flash other than of the musical kind.
* The Silent Man smiled!: Yes sirree! During ACOS (I think) he played a
little music-box riff as a solo. I was laughing myself, and I look onstage,
and he's backed up by the drum riser and smiling (I think at MP). It seemed
as though everyone was enjoying themselves.
All-in-all, a great performance. The only thing that would have topped it
for me would have been if they had played one of the 3 songs I was
listening for: (1)Nightmare Cinema, (2)Scarred, or (3)Trial Of Tears. Oh
well, I guess it just gives me something to look forward to at the next
show. :)
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 08:48:14
From: CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quake/II Clan
Message-ID: <19980103154815.27941.qmail@www06.netaddress.usa.net>
I was wondering: do any of you Ytsejammers play Quake or Quake II? I have both, and if there are enough of you (at least 4, preferably 5 or more) with stable Internet connections (28.8 ISP or better. No AOL, because the ping times are awful. I got a ping time of over 3000 milliseconds to a server only 70 miles away.) we could form a clan Ytsejam, or something vaguely equivalent. If you're interested, e-mail me privately.
____________________________________________________________________
Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:00:09 EST
From: ReikiFox <ReikiFox@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:hartford
Message-ID: <d21721a1.34ae6e9b@aol.com>
well, i am glad to hear the rest of the hartford show was cool...i
unfortunately had to leave after big wreck ended because i blacked out(!!!). i
was up against the stage right in front of where the sound guys were setting
up petrucci's stuff, and all of a sudden, i felt very ill and my vision went
starry and i couldnt see a thing for a minute or two. suffice it to say that
the experience was frightening enough to make me leave, which i ***NEVER***
thought would happen. :o(
i just wanted to say thanks, tho, to the people who were kinda helpful to me
and got me a coke and all.... i appreciated it. i just wish i could have
stayed - having a spot in the front row is not something i enjoyed giving up.
thanks again, guys-
NICOLE MERCEDES
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 19:45:08 +0200
From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: online CD shops...
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980103194508.00903100@mail.surffi.net>
Hiya!
I am looking for a good CD online shop, not in the vein of CDNOW however
Rather, I am seeking a wholesaler oriented dealer, preferrably one
specializing in re-releases where I might purchase bulk quantities of Deep
Purple's Machine Head and similar items
Responses by private e-mail are preferred.
op777
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e-mail: opk@hlti.fi phn:+358-3-6715036 cell:+358-400-498 266
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 12:12:59 -0500
From: Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT in Metal Edge (DTC!)
Message-ID: <34AE719B.CCD38928@disknet.com>
Happy New Year
Sorry if this has been posted before. In the current issue of "Metal Edge" there is a nice one page
write up on DT. If features about 7 color phots, including the guys playing each others instruments
during the "Nightmare Cinema" performance. Talks a little bit about FII and the tour with Big Wreck.
Check it out.
~Matt
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:10:34 EST
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: APSOG, kinda funny (NDTC)
Message-ID: <2b3b9622.34ae7f1c@aol.com>
Hey, everybody put track 6 of APSOG on, and tell me if it doesn't sound like
maybe they're gonna go into "Wanted Dead or Alive" by Bon Jovi. I was
cracking up in my car over that one!
Art
The Joe Stump Website
http://members.aol.com/shredgtr
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:39:07 -0700
From: fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ozric Tentacles - Curious Corn
Message-ID: <v01530500b0d4268fa149@[128.111.29.61]>
All you space-rockers on the list: put down what you're doing and put
in an order for the Ozrics' new one, Curious Corn, if you haven't already.
This album is a fabulous blend of synth wizardry, guitar sorcery, and ambient
mood-making magic. I think the Ozrics have really hit the nail on the head
this time, inviting us on an auditory voyage into their space. For those of
you who have been following their last few albums, this one will seem like
a step in the right direction in their musical evolution, and for the
uninitiated this album would make a great introduction to what the Ozrics are
all about. Definitely a keeper.
Paul
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:13:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: DTIFC CD has arrived
Message-ID: <199801031913.OAA10555@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, just got the DTIFC CD today in the mail today, and just got done
seeing them last night... a definate good beginning to the new
year... Have not touched it, but it looks pretty cool, and has some
cool liner notes and CD jacket. Will post more later, both about the
CD and last night's show in Hartford.
--
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater |
| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:44:34 +0000
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3407
Message-ID: <19980103094641.AAA4889@sni.pananet.com>
Rogerio wrote:
> I also don't like flamewars. Let's not continue this (be it on a
> public forum or even e-mail). I'm definitely not in the mood of
> fighting
I dont think Paul was looking for a flame war...he was just giving
some constructive criticisms
Contradiction does not always a fire make, grasshopper.
>. BTW, I usually think a *lot* more than what you seem to think
>that I think before doing anything. Way more.
>
Think you, you thinking thinkthink! ;)
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:53:59 EST
>From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
>
>Bafu Vai
Oh shit. Hes back, and he's on AOL!
Ernesto
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:16:23 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CD For Sale
Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9FE2B3E0@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
For some unknown reason, when cataloging my CDs it became a bit
embarrassingly obvious that I somehow became in the possession of two
copies of Peter Gabriel's double live CD "Secret World Live". Must mean
that I really like it (or that the synapses between those few remaining
braincells aren't firing too often). It is decent. Double CD for $8 US
postpaid.
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
Famous line heard after the DT show in Hartford (said by a member on
DT's very payroll directed at a once famous jammer): "Hey - I dont tell
you how to pick up the garbage !! "
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:41:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: did you hear?
Message-ID: <199801032241.RAA26251@umbc10.umbc.edu>
DT's next project is to be a concept album based loosely on South Park.
Here's the breakdown of the characters:
Stan Marsh <the cute one>: John Petrucci...quiet, introspective
Kiel Broslowski: Derek Sherinian...sometime joker
Kenny McCormack <the quiet one>: John Myung <as if you couldn't see that
coming>
Eric Cartman: James LaBrie <two words: beefcake...BEEFCAKE!!!!>
Chef: Mike Portnoy :)
Steve Z
<Of course, I'm kidding!>
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 00:06:40 +0100
From: Leif Edling <leif@hotmail.com>
To: YTSEJAM digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Remote control and guitar
Message-ID: <34AEC47F.3F7BCFA@hotmail.com>
I read somewhere in a Guitar magazine about a guy who uses
remote controls and hose-clips to make special sounds from his guitar.
But unfortunately I can't remember his name, dose anybody know ho he is?
And what band he plays in? He is supposed to be a hell of a guitarist.
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:10:50 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@Walden.MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche box set
Message-ID: <199801040015.SAA13852@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, I was wondering what would be a fair price for the Operation
Livecrime box set (cassette, not CD). A friend of mine is offering
it to me since he got it on CD (figured he'd offer it to someone who
could appreciate it instead of selling it to a used store. Gee, how
nice of him :). Everything is in excellent condition. Thanks.
Dale R. Newberry
P.S. Please respond to me privately.
"If we have learned anything in 1997, it's that
little kids do not rock."
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 02:16:39 +0100
From: Erik Gorissen <egorissen@online-club.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Progressive rock/metal CDs for barter/sale!
Message-ID: <199801040117.CAA13124@clubserv.rp-online.de>
Hi!
Everybody who is into progressive rock/metal may like to have a look at
my lists of CD that are due to be bartered/sold. It contains CDs from
seventies Art Rock, eighties and nineties progressive rock, progressive
metal and more. If you are interested in bartering CDs, please mail me
your lists.
Here is where you can find my one:
Greetings,
Erik Gorissen
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:35:03 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hypocritical Mr.Brito NO SPOILERS
Message-ID: <199801040239.NAA23640@armstrong.apic.net>
> From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: DTIFC CD, please tell us about it!
> Date: Wednesday, 31 December 1997 13:11
> But please, *do* remember to put some spoilers, since many people
> would like to keep it as a surprise as I understand it. Please, respect
> those people, but also keep us who can't wait for it knowing more about
> it.
Roger told us this, then he gave us this:
> P.S.: Just got one CD with the following tracklist:
<SNIP>
So why did you post the XMas CD track listing without any 'spoilers'
when previously you have asked others to do so ?
This is very hypocritical Roger, and judging from the number of
people on #ytsejam IRC I am not alone in being pissed off with you
for posting this.
How about you practise what you preach ?
graham
Roger don't take this as a flame :)
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:14:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SPOILER: Hartford
Message-ID: <199801040414.XAA12194@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, saw DT for the 9th time last night in Hartford, and this might
just have been the best show I have ever saw. They were on last
night. The set list was (at least close to) what Tim Lodge posted,
and there were a few nice surprises... You Not Me being one of them.
This song sounds great live! I also think that New Millenium is an
amazing song live, if possible, even better than on FII. It was
interesting when LaBrie had mic problems during JLMB, and Mike took
over while James went on over to have a chat. Mike was, as always,
Animal on drums. During the ACOS part, Mike also appeared to scream
"Please don't go" as did those of us in the crowd. The added portion
of Ytsejam (the "fasten your seatbelts" portion) is pretty cool...
very _FAST_. Metropolis was amazing, with 2 added jams in the middle
(the "standard" one dating back to at least the Fix shows, as well as
a cover tune. Metropolis really does kick some major ass. Peruvian
Skies was also very cool. The electric version of Silen Man was very
cool, better than I remember.
Was also cool to get together with some other Jammers... Merlo was
back in New England, and was cool as always. I was standing with
Sarah, Erica, Skadz, Merlow, Pat Sullivan, and a few others during the
show. It was cool, b/c Skadz & Merlo decided to stop _anyone_ who
started to mosh in our area, going into the pit, and pulling people
out... very cool. Lets see... what else... Not a whole lot, again,
great to see everyone again. Can't wait for DT to come back from
Europe/Japan for show number 10.
--
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater |
| will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity |
| --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/
Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 23:02:40 -0600
From: yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Skipping DT songs
Message-ID: <199801040504.VAA04012@odin.ax.com>
blasphemous! sacrilegious! etc....
*yzzy grins at you and waves*
yzzy //Iz*zee//E*zee//E*ziz*ee//Y*z*z*y//Izzzzz
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 00:40:12 -0500
From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT airplay
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980104004012.00691b9c@postoffice.ptd.net>
Hey everyone. Just wanted to let y'all know I heard YNM on the radio
earlier today (of all songs). I've also heard Hollow Years and Burning My
Soul SEVERAL times in the past month or so . . . this station ("The Bear",
97.9 - northeast PA) seems to be into DT, I've requested BMS and HY once or
twice since I got the album (I know, I should be calling more often :), and
they told me they'd play DT just as if I had requested the new Pearl Jam.
Hopefully maybe YNM will fall into regular rotation?? I think it's really
cool that DT finally seem to be making some waves commercially. Let's hope
it keeps up.
cArPe DiEm,
-oO(bRiAn)Oo-
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:41:51 EST
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: (NDTC) Good Marillion album to start with?
Message-ID: <3eeff311.34af2f31@aol.com>
Hey Jammers!
I've heard so much about Marrilion here, I want to buy an album of theirs.
Can anyone reccommend a good one to start with? Thanks !
Art
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The Joe Stump Fan Website
http://members.aol.com/shredgtr
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 02:02:14 -0500
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ticket query -- DT in NY
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980104020214.00705480@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Me and the lads are heading up to the Vanderbilt show tomorrow night on
Long Island somewhere. Two stragglers joined the concert-train at the last
minute, meaning they don't have advance tickets like I gots. Haven't been
keeping up with my 'Jams -- has there been any word on whether or not the
show is sold out? (Semi)-informative private E-mail between now and then
is mightily appreciated. Thanks.
Brian
===========================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:45:03 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
Cc: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Apology
Message-ID: <199801040848.TAA06189@armstrong.apic.net>
to Roger for my last post was supposed to go direct to him and not the jam.
graham
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:45:03 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
Cc: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Apology
Message-ID: <199801040848.TAA06198@armstrong.apic.net>
to Roger for my last post was supposed to go direct to him and not the jam.
graham
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:45:03 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
Cc: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Apology
Message-ID: <199801040849.TAA06207@armstrong.apic.net>
to Roger for my last post was supposed to go direct to him and not the jam.
graham
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:45:53 +1100
From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
To: <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
Cc: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Apology
Message-ID: <199801040849.TAA06214@armstrong.apic.net>
to Roger for my last post was supposed to go direct to him and not the jam.
graham
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