YTSEJAM Digest 3408
Today's Topics:
1) CD's for Sale
by Andy Garner <agarner@berrytaylor.demon.co.uk>
2) TSO new years eve
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) Hartford Pre-Show
by Andrew Rittner <ADR93001@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
4) Re: Skipping songs
by Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
5) DT in VIVA
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
6) XMAS CD
by Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com>
7) hartford ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
8) MY Dream Theater experiences
by Greg1680 <Greg1680@aol.com>
9) Re: upcoming shows
by Jeff Forte <araby@ibm.net>
10) FW: CDnow Update
by "Kaplan Philip" <KaplanPhil@bah.com>
11) JP - Rock Discipline
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
12) Re: JP - Rock Discipline
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
13) skip it
by Ole Ernstsen <0402@post6.tele.dk>
14) Skipping DT songs
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
15) I want the CDs you don't...
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
16) 1-2-98 HARTFORD - WEBSTER THEATRE CONCERT REVIEW ***sPOILERS***
by Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net>
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:14:36 +0000
From: Andy Garner <agarner@berrytaylor.demon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD's for Sale
Message-ID: <CyaEzFA8$Kr0Ewzr@berrytaylor.demon.co.uk>
I have the following CD's for sale. They belonged to a friend of mine
who was killed recently. Prices are 8 GBP or $12, whicheve is apropriate
or easiest.
Ajalon - Light At The End Of The Tunnel
Anglagard - Epilog
Berry, Robert - Pilgrimage To A Point
Body - The Body Album
Booker, Andrew - Ahead
Camel - Mirage
Camel - On the Road 1982
Carnival Of Thieves - Welcome To The Carnival
Casino - Casino
Citizen Cain - Somewhere But Yesterday
Covenant, The - Spectres At The Feast
Craft - Craft
Credo - Field Of Vision
Different Trains - On The Right Track
Dizrythmia - Dizrythmia
Earthstone - Seed
Egdon Heath - Nebula
Electric Orange - Orange Communication
Enchant - A Blueprint Of The World
Epilogue - Hide
Exhibit A - Out There
Ezra - Shapes
Final Conflict - Redress The Balance
Galahad - Sleepers
Grace - Poppy
Grace - Pulling Strings & Shiny Things
Grey Lady Down - The Crime
Grey Lady Down - Forces
Grey Lady Down - Fear
Fyreworks, The - The Fyreworks
Jade Warrior - Distant Echoes
Jakko - Kingdom Of Dust
Jeremy - Pilgrim's Journey
Kansas - Greatest Hits
MKII - Burning Daylight
Mastermind - Vol 1
Mastermind - Brainstorm
Mastermind - Until Eternity
Moom - Toot
Niadems Ghost - In Sheltered Winds
No Name - The Secret Garden
Osiris - Myths & Legends
Ravana - Common Daze
Saunders, Lee - Promise Of Peace
Tea For The Wicked - Out To Lunch
Threshold - Livedelica
Timelock - The Dawn
Various - A Psychedelic Sauna
Various - Third Cyclops Sampler (exclusive tracks)
Wakeman with Wakeman - The Official Bootleg (2 CD)
Walking On Ice
Ziff - Stories
Please e-mail me privately if interested.
-- Andy Garner------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:54:30 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: TSO new years eve Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980102095430Z-967@ms.Kallback.com>
I don't know if anyone else saw the fireworks show from the Space Needle in Seattle, but the whole show was set to the The Silent Nutcracker by TSO. They even plugged the cd afterwards. Very cool, even though I was home sick watching it on TV.
"I'm feeling better now" Trevor
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 98 08:12:30 EST From: Andrew Rittner <ADR93001@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hartford Pre-Show Message-ID: <980102.081741.EST.ADR93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Hey all. Just decided this last night, so I hope this gets out before the show tonight.
There'll be a little pre-show gathering at the First and Last Tarvern on Maple St. in Hartford, starting about 5:30-6:00ish. The place is real simple to get to: when you would normally take a right off of Brown St onto Maple St (coming from the Airport Rd. Exit) to get to the Webster, you take a left instead. The First & Last is almost immediately on your right. It's got good pizza, good beer, and is a little expensive, but oh well, it was a choice between the F&L, a church, a post office, or a gay bar. Not much in that area of Hartford.
Anyway, there's about 12 confirmed Ytsejammers and their respective parties going to the place, so we should be easy to see. We'll probably walk from the F&L to the Webster (it isn't that bad) since parking at the Webster sucks.
Anyway, see ya tonight, maybe.
Andy
adr93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu http://www.connix.com/~rittner
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 08:33:19 -0500 From: Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Skipping songs Message-ID: <34ACEC9F.3781@GSC.GTE.com>
> I never skip anything on "Images and Words"... On the other hand, > IMO, "Awake" is composed of songs 4,5,6,7,8,10 and 11. The rest is just, > how can I say, not important for me.
I'd have to that usually I listen to the CD's the whole way through. If I skip I skip to songs that put me in a certain mood. (Trial of Tears, Space Dye Vest and Lines in the Sand all put me in certain good/zen type moods) There aren't any songs that I particularly don't like, except after a while the singer from WDADU starts to grind on my nerves a little, I much prefer LaBrie's voice.
Jim
-- "We are all books of blood, as soon as we're open we're red" --Clive Barker
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 16:41:14 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in VIVA Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980102164114.0092d3f0@mail.surffi.net>
/me is still a shitload behind in jamreading...
I found out that DT appeared at some show of VIVA-channel.. if some of the eurojammers (pref. Finn-jammers) has this on tape, please e-mail me privately thank you, I might have some nice stuff to trade with you....
op777 ------------------------------------------------------------- Olli-Pekka Komonen snail:Kutojantie 2, 13720 Parola, Finland e-mail: opk@hlti.fi phone:+358-3-6715036 ------------------------------------------------------------- "YOUTAKEMYLIFEANDI'LLTAKEYOUR'STOO!!!" -Kevin Moore "Very positive message" -James LaBrie -------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 10:45:22 -0500 From: Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: XMAS CD Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980102104519.00995320@p3.herndon.psi.com>
Has anyone out there that is expecting to receive an XMAS CD still without it? I still haven't received mine yet and I'm getting anxious!
Shawn
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:19:54 -0500 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: hartford .... Message-ID: <199801021719.MAA28087@wicked.stigmata.org>
another year is upon us and so is another DT show. I will be there since its ONLY an hour and a half away. :)
Green hooded ytsejam sweatshirt will be worn, so come up and say hello. (puns about biting left out of this messsage intentionally ;)
Skadz
--- Ryan Skadberg | "feed my head, with some real thoughts, Ytsejam Moderator | and let me think instead of being taught, skadz@dreamt.org | i'll say things you won't believe, http://www.dreamt.org/ | just stand back, just let me breathe..." | "Just Let Me Breathe" -Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:32:10 EST From: Greg1680 <Greg1680@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MY Dream Theater experiences Message-ID: <d819dda9.34ad249c@aol.com>
Well first I'll start by saying I saw Dream Theater both in New York and Philadelphia on the Falling Into Infinity Tour. I am from Philadephia and I drove up to New York for the day to see Dream Theater at The Irving Plaza. The show were great especially the New York show cause I saw Nightmare Cinema( thats where everyone changes instruments except james and they played perfect strangers) veru cool however in philly in the middle of metropolis they played some song where derek started singing. well now the cool part.
In new york while waiting outside i met Mike Portnoy what a cool guy then saw John Petrucci walking outside funny enough he didnt know how to enter the Irving plaza i gave him directions. John however wasnt that cool to me but i understand he was in a rush he was late for sound check. In philadelphia my home town it was different. I arrived early and waited behind the TLA. I knocked onn the back door and the roadie opened and remembered me from new york trying to ask him get stuff signed so this time he got my stuff i gave him signed. then derek came out and i got my pictureed taken with him. then i saw mike portnoy twice later before the show. i also saw his dog BONGO and daughter Melonie sorry if its spelt wrong. the show was great then after wards i waited around and met all of them except john myung who rushed into the bus. during the show me and mike were linked cause i was playing air drums and he saw so he tried to give me a stick but my frined got it so after the show we asked who he was tring to give it to and he said me MIKE PORTNOY MEANT TO GIVE ME A DRUM STICK OF HIS. WOW MY LIFE IS COMPLETE, I met John petrucci agfain and this time he was real nice to me i have pictures with me and all of them excpet john myung but i have a back shot of him. I talked to mike awhile he is still cool as ever. i also have all my cds covers signed by mike portnoy and others. well that enough for now
greg
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:00:42 -0500 From: Jeff Forte <araby@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: upcoming shows Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980102130042.006a23c4@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Hey guys;
>hey gang! long time, no read. (i'm way the fuck behind with this >list.) since i'm going to be at the hartford show on jan 2nd and the >long island show on jan 4th, i thought i'd remind everyone of the most >effective ways of meeting other jammers at a show. if you want to >meet other jammers, do this. if you don't, then don't do any of this, >and we'll all think you're just regular fans. > >1) wear ytse. the most tell-tale sign that you're a jammer.
I lack anything "ytse", but I will have on my Waking Up the World t-shirt.
>2) walk around screaming something like "BAFU!!!" this works. :)
ummmmm.........no :)
>3) ytsejammer groups snowball. when you find a pack of jammers, stick >with them. you'll attract more.
>4) drink lots of beer. (this won't necessarily attract other jammers, >but it sure is fun.)
mmmmmm...beer
>5) after the show, go to right in front of the stage and attempt to >meet other jammers. that's where i'll be. >i'm hoping to meet some new faces at this show, so don't let me down, >ok? :) >
Ill be there. If you see someone tall with glasses and reddish hair, give a holler. That will be me walking around in a fog as usual.
Jeff
aka Chambers
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:56 -0500 From: "Kaplan Philip" <KaplanPhil@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FW: CDnow Update Message-ID: <5DA9B5056181D11181340060080350C6@hamltnpo4a.bah.com>
#78!!
-pk
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 14:01:21 -0500 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP - Rock Discipline Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980102140121.00690bbc@postoffice.ptd.net>
In ROCK DISCIPLINE, John Petrucci's guitar-instruction vid, at the beginning and end of the tape and inbetween lessons, John is shown playing parts of something w/the rest of the band on stage . . . I think the stuff sounds fucking GREAT, having heard it more than a few times, and I was wondering if anyone knew where these riffs are from. My guesses are that either they were only performed once and captured for the vid (some of it sounds improv), they're parts of Metropolis II, or parts of older unreleased material (perhaps from Subconscious??) . . . If anyone knows anything about this, please e-mail me.
-oO(bRiAn)Oo-
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:15:12 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: JP - Rock Discipline Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980102121511.006abddc@postoffice.syspac.com>
>In ROCK DISCIPLINE, John Petrucci's guitar-instruction vid, at the >beginning and end of the tape and inbetween lessons, John is shown playing >parts of something w/the rest of the band on stage . . . I think the stuff >sounds fucking GREAT, having heard it more than a few times, and I was >wondering if anyone knew where these riffs are from. My guesses are that
Hey man, it's just shots of the band at soundchecks, warming up. Probably doing improv stuff over simple chord progressions to get the levels checked and to get themselves into playing that night. That's why Petrucci is in a sweat outfit and that's also why Derek is wearing a beanie :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 21:24:22 +0100 From: Ole Ernstsen <0402@post6.tele.dk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: skip it Message-ID: <34AD4CF6.4C57@post6.tele.dk>
Poul w. cashman if you dont want to read some post you just can skip it. I find it interesting to see what all ytsejammers are up to.
Rogerio has posted many interesting things on this list.
Rogerio dont have to apologize.
HAPPY NEW YEAR Ole
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:28:40 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Skipping DT songs Message-ID: <01BD17C9.0F283300@Lwaxana.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Graham Boyle wrote :
>> I never skip anything on "Images and Words"... On the other hand, >> IMO, "Awake" is composed of songs 4,5,6,7,8,10 and 11. The rest is >> just, how can I say, not important for me. > > I never skip any songs on any DT albums :)
That's what seperates the *real* fans from the casual ones. ;-)
(Itchy runs for cover... HEY... I was only kidding !!!... sorta)
Seriously, I love all DT songs. Sure, I like some of them better than others... but never to the point that I skip songs or say I hate them. I for one think both "You Not Me" and "Cover My Eyes" are brilliant for the kind of songs they are (read: less complex and "wanky" than most other DT songs). Two of the (many) reasons why I love DT are their diversity and ability to grow from album to album... I guess some people just have to face up to the fact that songs like YNM, Anna Lee, Innocence Faded, etc. are part of what DT stands for ! They are certainly not "less DT" than songs like for example Metropolis, ACoS, Voices, Scarred, LiTS, etc...
smile ;-)
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 23:57:32 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I want the CDs you don't... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980102235732.00918d40@hlti.fi>
in some recent posts to jam, I have seen ppl complain that this-n-that album sux, I really dig some of the albums tha were released in 1997, but didn't have the money to buy them, so if you own some of these things, and don't want to own it anymore, mail me privately and we'll see..
Bozzio, Levins, Stevens - Blue Light Syndrome (or whatever) Fates Warning - ASSPOG Trans Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Eve And Other Stories and if someone has a copy of Sava's Wake Of MAgellan... I'd also be interested in getting that, thank you very many,
op777
------------------------------------------------------------- Olli-Pekka Komonen snail:Kutojantie 2, 13720 Parola, Finland e-mail: opk@hlti.fi phn:+358-3-6715036 cell:+358-400-498 266 ------------------------------------------------------------- "YOUTAKEMYLIFEANDI'LLTAKEYOUR'STOO!!!" -Kevin Moore "Very positive message" -James LaBrie -------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 02:39:01 -0500 From: Tim Lodge <axe@mail1.nai.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 1-2-98 HARTFORD - WEBSTER THEATRE CONCERT REVIEW ***sPOILERS*** Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980103023901.006ea834@ct1.nai.net>
Hey folks..
What an AMAZING show for starters..This was my 7th time seeing DT live and it was definately one of the best!!! I'm sure I won't even be able to remember all the great moments of this DT show...
For openers, BIG WRECK actually started to sound good to me.. Mabey that's because I've now heard their stuff before and could get into the groove or something.. Anyways, NOT-Cornell joked with the audience, and of course dealth with the resounding choruses of "you suck you suck".
After the demo songs and Rooster..DT opened up with (setlist in best order i could remember) Lines In the Sand - Very cool, but IMHO they should tape the Pinnick vocal parts and play them during the song. I know this sounds cheesy, but the petrucci/portnoy backup vocals on those parts is no where near strong enough for the song... However, all of the backing vocals for the rest of the songs were SOLID!!! Burning My Soul Voices The Silent Man (Electric) Wow - was this a nice suprise...!!! Under a Glass Moon - You Not Me - nice suprise..sounded great live! Hollow Years Just Let Me Breathe Puppies on Acid Lie ACOS - Inevitable Winter (i think) Pull Me Under Ytsejam - Seatbelts version Peruvian Skies New Millenium Metropolis
--Some guy was holding up a home-made cardboard sign that read "LIGHT FUSE AND GET AWAY"... I could have SWORN that Portnoy (sporting a new 'bob' haircut - real cute) played the first opening drum measures to 'Light Fuse...' right before petrucci's solo before Hollow Years...Was I going crazy people or what???
During JLMB, KJLB's microphone stopped working and he had to use Petrucci's mike...he got ALL PISSED OFF at the sound guy who apparently was ignoring his requests to fix his mike.. and at one point he slammed down the megaphone and went after the soundman....this just happened to be at the point where he was supposed to chime in with "strike up your best angst ridden pose"...but MR. MIKE "THE ANIMAL" PORTNOY SANG IT! He actually sounded GREAT on that part...I was impressed to say the least!!!
Low Point of the night: Some girl got stomped in the head or something and had to be carried out of the theatre right after Burning my Soul started...
2nd Low Point of the night: the t-shirts... The shorts for this tour are lame IMHO... I kind of liked the short sleeve blue one, but it had the "penis" picture on the back from the FII CD Cover... that's not something I want to wear on my back thank-you-very-much!!
Anyways, I'll shut up for now...I'm sure tons of other jammers will want to post their thoughts on this awesomme (as always) DT show...
--Tim axe@ct1.nai.net
PS: Thanks goes out to Sam Kim from this list..he hooked me up with an extra ticket.! Thanks Sam!
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