YTSEJAM Digest 3459
Today's Topics:
1) Subject: Subject: Subject: OBJECT!
by someone@prognosis.com
2) Re: JP's Sega game sound files
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
3) Re: Chill!
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
4) Mike Bahr wars...
by Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com>
5) Last Call
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
6) burning PS discs
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
7) squealies
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
8) Re: NDTC
by Stephan Dobay <reginars@mandic.com.br>
9) Re: Mike Bahr wars...
by belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
10) Re: Please Read
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Oh man...
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <jkube@cyberportal.net>
12) Re: Chill!
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
13) asdf
by "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net>
14) Re: Geoff Tate
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
15) re:Megadeth in Boston (NDTC)
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:54 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Subject: Subject: Subject: OBJECT!
Message-ID: <199801142250.OAA11755@odin.ax.com>
> From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
> Subject: Please Read
I went through this stage too. :) Many of you misunderstand my
motives for that last argument, but that's over. I make no attempt
to control or suggest the proper direction for the Ytsejam anymore...
but I'm not above criticising things that I think are bullshit.
Minus any name calling and that sort of thing, for the most part. :)
But back to my point... Charlie A). That's Ben... that's the way
Ben is. If that offends you, don't leave the list... because he's
not on it. He posted because that's the way he shows his displeasure
with someone (yes, it's fucked up, and no that's not a defense). I
laughed at it when I saw it, just because it's so ludicrous and
insane... Ben has no point. But he's got worms and filth.
> Does anyone know when DT will be coming back to the US (particularly
> Atlanta) for more shows?
I thought there was just a post on this... either way, you can get
almost all relevant news on UACM (http://www.prognosis.com/dream) or
on Syrinx's page (I think it's http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx but
he'll correct me if I'm wrong).
> From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
> Subject: Re: No DT/Playstation (Sony)
>
> I've heard that this ISN'T possible, although I can't prove it or explain why.
Not that this is relevant, here's the answer, as I'm told by people
in the know: There is a modification you can do or have done to your
Playstation, that will allow it to play import games (which are often
much less expensive). This modification also supposedly allows you
to play CDR copies of Playstation games that are not originally
imports. AFAIK, this modification is legal (though I don't own a
Playstation).
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
> Subject: UACM tabs, xmas CD
> > I guess what I'm trying to say, if you want tab, "real tab", then
> > you should just buy the tab books because you know that they'll be
> > correct..
That's entirely false. I don't think I own a tab book that is free
of error. Your only benefit to buying them is that they're bound,
and contain more songs, usually... and they've been edited, so
supposedly they should be more accurate. A good transcriptionist
will do a better job than the book since usually he's doing his work
because he has a desire to have it on paper.
Most common errors I see on books: positions for the tab side, and
oversimplifying tapping and confusingly intricate legato (read:
Holdsworth).
> Does anyone know if I can get into trouble, if I add those tabs
> to UACM (including copyright and ordering info for the books) ?
You can get into a LOT of trouble. Heheh and since it's on my
domain, let's all stay OUT of trouble. :)
Smoke Marlboro
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass."
- Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek
someone@prognosis.com
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:35:05 EST
From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: JP's Sega game sound files
Message-ID: <e4b61c42.34bd4bab@aol.com>
Hey Everybody -
> Now when is that Petrucci-laden pinball game going to be ported to a system
> with a future?!?! damn.
Speaking of Necronomicon (or is it Necromicon?), does ANYONE out there know
where I can find DECENT recordings of JP's stuff on this Sega game? I already
have heard the crappy RA versions - are there any WAV or MP3 versions floating
around out there? Or, if anyone has a decent audio recording of these tracks,
PLEASE e-mail me. Private e-mail is fine.
Thanks! And about the latest installment of the Bahr Wars, seriously, can we
all give it a rest, people? This shit was getting old the LAST time it came
up. Can't we all just get along? :-)
- Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:44:41 -0400
From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
To: Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Chill!
Message-ID: <8525658C.00812B9A.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
Brian,
>>You know, you're allowed to think about things instead of just going by
whether there's a 'smiley' or not.<<
I do consider myself a thinker, but it is difficult to get a point across
online. You can't see a person's face or hear one's tone of voice in an
e-mail. You say you meant this to be a joke then I will now consider it
one. I also consider myself to be a rather humorous individual, but I
don't find Ben funny. Once again, that is just my opinion, and you don't
have to agree with it.
>>It's a common humorous saying.<<
Sorry, but I have never heard it before.
>> I should that it's ludicrous enough that you should figure out it's a
joke even if you've never heard it. Maybe I'm wrong.<<
Wrong or not, I don't even know why we are discussing this. I do not have
a problem with you. I do have a problem with Ben's idiotic statement that
was placed on the jam. Now that I know that Ben is some 14 or 15 year old
loser (NOTE: not all 15 year olds are losers) who just wants some
attention, I don't feel as offended by it. I think he was just trying to
get a reaction. And by judging from those defending him (you and Carol)
and those who considered his statement a complete waste of time (me and a
few others) he has succeeded.
Charlie
NP: Lemur Voice: Insights
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:08:33 -0500
From: Shawn Carroll <carrolls@psi.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr wars...
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980114190830.00991bd0@p3.herndon.psi.com>
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:03:27 -0500,
Adam Pye wrote:
> It really pains me to do this publicly, but it appears that I have little
>choice..
>
>Mike Bahr..
>
>I've written you multiple times about my Virtual Songs order. I sent the
>money in close to a year ago for two sets, totalling $150. The check was
>cashed the same week I sent them.
*SNIP*
>On your list and all the sets around these were shipped over six weeks ago
>according to your updates. I wrote you asking what the deal was and you
>said you'd send them out to us ASAP. That was 5 weeks ago. Three weeks
>ago I asked again if you could get them to us. Again you promised to get
>them to us shortly.
*SNIP*
>I still haven't gotten a response after 6 days. Please don't tell me you
were too >busy because you've obviously been able to keep up with Jams as
demonstrated by your >arguments with Chris. I've always been incredibly,
IMO, forgiving and patient with
>this whole fiasco. All of my emails to you were extremely civil, even tho'
>I'm feeling very cheated right now and a bit helpless.
*SNIP*
>I understand your business is very time comsuming, but you've apparently
>bitten off more than you can chew. Four to eight weeks is acceptable for
>any mail order business - 10 months is not.
Adam-
I am in 100% agreement with you here. A lot of Jammers have posted about
the high quality of Prism Records products. True. I agree that these of
some of the best boots out there.
What I do disagree with is the fact that the web site leads people to
expect a shipment when it was never shipped. Your mention of Prism Records
email about the discs being shipped weeks ago... I thought it was just me
that the post office has screwed up. I sent a check in for Precious Things
and Darkest of Winters 10 months ago as well. I received PT in the mail 2
days ago. I have yet to receive DOW or the 3 other discs I have paid for
(all checks have been cashed).
I have read Prism's page regarding the mass of email, but no other
business' customers would accept a ten month delivery time for products.
Especially if the business is telling customers that the products were
shipped 6 weeks ago.
I have nothing against personal against Mike Bahr, my complaint is with the
business of Prism Records. All of us who look at the web site and expect
discs should get them in a timely manner. I do not care whether Mike makes
money on this or not. In fact, I think it's great that he does, but the
fact remains, ship the discs when you say you have shipped the discs...
Don't put up wrong information and tell people to expect them shortly when
they are not coming.
Shawn
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:29:58 -0500
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Last Call
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980114192958.0068c970@ee.net>
OK Jammers, this page http://www.dhpc.com/dtchips/ is still
getting hits, but I'm gonna have to take it down soon before
I get in any real trouble, so grab a last look!
I have special announcement:
I have decided to venture into the bootlegging business
myself. Now I know you're thinking, "but buster, we already
have plenty of great resources for that! just go to any
cassete rack in any truckstop!"
but no, this is different! Fresh! New!
For a limited time I will be selling my homemade bootleg
recordings of that famous trio - The Chipmunks!
Yes, thats right, Alvin, Simon, and Theodore LIVE, recorded
at various shoppping mall tours around the country performing
all of your favorite Dream Theater hits Chipmunk style!
The recordings were made with a handheld Sony walkman that
was placed on the stage, which I then jacked into my $39.95
no-name boombox from Kmart and duped over to cassette for
supreme listening quality!
Each cassette is only $29.95 (hey, i have to pay for this boom box somehow!)
and includes hits like, Under A Glass Acorn, Take the Pine (cones),
Take Away My Fleas, and Alvin Lee. Yes folks, its time to let Alvin,
Simon, and Theodore take you to new hieghts in progressive listening!!
Just visit this web site for ordering information and a *picture*
of them after a recent show:
http://www.dhpc.com/dtchips/
Although it has been *rumored* that Alvin was "smoked up" at
that particular show while performing the hit single "Burning
my Bowl", no one can really prove it, and besides;
he sounds great on the bootleg!
buster :P
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:26:22 -0700
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: burning PS discs
Message-ID: <001601bd214c$36d98ca0$632746cf@sir.micron.net>
I broke down and bought one...a Sony Playstation. GREAT!
huh? Games are 60 bucks each? oh ok...HERE IS WHAT
I would like to know. Since CD burners are on the rise
etc..etc..can you copy a Sony playstation game and use it?
Does it use the same equipment? It seems that the Sony
Playstation CD is alittle 'thicker'. Anyone have any info
on this? Let me know...thx!
from what I hear, PS discs have little spaces where there isn't any data.
supposedly this confused the burners enough to make the burned discs
unplayable. why PC CD-ROM companies don't do this is beyond me. I got al=
l
this stuff from my bro-in-law who is a wicked computer freak but don't be
surprised if it's all bunk. If this was covered already gimme a break. I
get home from work to find 6 jams in my inbox. not to mention a bunch of
positive responses for the eve project. See? the fake porn trick works
every time. :) Seriously though, thanks for all the input. We'll try to =
put
something else together pretty soon.
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot=99 from Blammo!=AE
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:30:49 -0700
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: squealies
Message-ID: <001801bd214c$d51b2900$632746cf@sir.micron.net>
Rogerio:
>Also, the patch that you chose to do
>the guitar (that's a keybord, right?) were kinda strange. My next commen=
ts
>will be accompanied by time references, so you know exactly to what I'm
>refering.
Actually that was just a guitar patch we found on the Digitech. It was a
really raunchy thick distortion that I could get some wicked squealies on.
(<sob>. My name's Craig, and I like squealies <sob>). I don't know if it
was the best patch for the job, but it worked out fine. burny wouldn't l=
et
me put any squealies on the final product though (grrr). He said we'd ge=
t
made fun of. hehe he's probably right.
It rolls down stairs
It comes not in pairs
Runs over your neighbor's foot.
It's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's woot! woot! woot!
woot=99 from Blammo!=AE
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:35:52 -0200
From: Stephan Dobay <reginars@mandic.com.br>
To: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NDTC
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980114223552.007cada0@pop-gw.mandic.com.br>
So what frequency is the station????
At 19:14 01/13/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
> UHUUUUU!!!!
>
> Just found out a NEW radio station here in Sao Paulo!!!!!!!! It's,
>how can I say, an "alternative", "not official" station, which plays
some
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:06:55 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai1 <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Bahr wars...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.980114200308.5805A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Shawn Carroll wrote:
> What I do disagree with is the fact that the web site leads people to
> expect a shipment when it was never shipped. Your mention of Prism Records
> email about the discs being shipped weeks ago... I thought it was just me
> that the post office has screwed up.
I was talking with the E-man (who hardly ever posts anymore to the jam
because he is a whore) about this a few months ago and he suggested that
Mike's CD service would be that much better if he charged us a few extra
bucks for priority mail instead of his usual first class mail. This would
definitely speed things up and perhaps many of the shipped CDs would not
get lost in the mail. Mike sent me a Rush CD at least twice without it
ever coming to my door. He then tried priority and it came within a couple
of days.
So perhaps this is one reason why there are delays.
Brandon
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:36 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Please Read
Message-ID: <199801150151.RAA26895@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "Charlie Korch" said:
>
>Do you approve of this sort of behavior (i.e. the request for Mr. Bahr to
>give oral pleasure to "Head")? If you do, I will asked to be removed from
>the jam.
Hey Charlie, you dropped your sarcasm detector... I think Pat Griffin is
selling them for a blowout price...
>It is really a shame that there are such personal attacks on the jam. I
>thought I found a place to discuss DT, but then something like this
>happens.
Your incessant pissing and moaning tears up more bandwidth than anything else.
Don't you know you aren't supposed to breastfeed after 10 years old?
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:57:31 -0500 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <jkube@cyberportal.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oh man... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980114205731.00799430@cyberport.cyberportal.net>
>What if Jordan stopped by............... again? :)
Screw Jordan. What if *Donny* stopped by?!
Brian "The Right Stuff" Henderson
***This has to be the worst thread ever : ) Where is Chris Merlo when you need him, he could make a list and put this at the top of it : ) Later, J
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 20:30:11 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com, Brian D Hayden <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>, Subject: Re: Chill! Message-ID: <34bd74b25aec007@mhub3.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:44:41 -0400 from "Charlie Korch" <ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>:
> You say you meant this to be a joke then I will now consider it > one.
Actually, the original post was Carol's, not mine. I was just pointing something out...
> And by judging from those defending him (you and Carol) > and those who considered his statement a complete waste of time (me and a > few others) he has succeeded.
I have to admit I chuckled at Ben's post, but that's just my warped sense of humour (and the fact that I don't sleep much). I wasn't defending him, though, in my post - I was defending Carol. I'm sure she doesn't need it, but sometimes I have a hard time keeping my big mouth shut.
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:40:33 -0700 From: "Washburn" <washburn@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: asdf Message-ID: <01bd215e$f3e73420$LocalHost@korgx3>
>Your incessant pissing and moaning tears up more bandwidth than anything >else. Don't you know you aren't supposed to breastfeed after 10 years old?
Actually, your guys' making fun of his standards take up more. Why don't you guys fucking grow up already and accept that people ACTUALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT DREAM THEATER HERE! The poor guy's only defending himself now because you people are trying to make him look inhuman. Fuck, let it rest!
unsubscribe Washburn
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Message-ID: <199801150416.XAA16639@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Quoth Pat:
> > still waiting on my tapes from the trade-oh I forgot that I gave Al a > > pardon...
Replieth Al:
> Ohhh, touche! nice cheap shot..........while we're at it.....
Cheap shot my ass. You deserved it.
Quoth me:
> > OK, now, why don't we give Steve Walsh a break. His voice is > definitely > > not what it used to be, but that was TWENTY STINKIN' YEARS AGO! Even > now > > after 20 years and no smokes he still sounds better than Geoff Tate > after > > ..I don't know...how long has he been smoking, because he sounded fine > > til a couple years ago.
Saith Chris:
> Wait a second...You're so full of shit. I saw 'ryche August 3rd of last > year and Tate sounded just as good...maybe better than he used to sound.
I saw them a week before that. Geoff hit most of the high notes in the songs they did. However, his throat was pinched tight all night because it's all he can do to get the notes out. Where he used to SING, now he just screams.
> I mean he was able to hit that REALLY REALLY HIGH NOTE in the beginning
Good for him. High notes are not the be-all, end-all, even in prog and semi-prog music. There's more to a singer than high notes. There's tone. Geoff used to have it. Now he doesn't.
> of THOTF. It was probably THE BEST show of my life. I've been a
Personally, I prefered them on the Promised Land tour. Geoff's voice still wasn't in great shape, but at least there was a kickass setlist.
> queensryche fan for about 7 years now and I gotta tell you, either Tate > had a good night, or you're the person thats been doing the smoking cuz > his voice was magnificent that night.
Well, Geoff must've gotten lucky that night because I don't smoke. I'm a singer.
Steve Z
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:17:44 EST From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re:Megadeth in Boston (NDTC) Message-ID: <8e7dcbc6.34bd8dea@aol.com>
I'll be there! 7th row, dead center! Too bad there are 2 shitty opening bands!
Art
<<<On another subject: is anyone else (besides the list manager) going to see Megadeth in Boston on Friday night? I have lousy tickets, and I might consider getting better ones if anyone is trying to get rid of some.
Jeff Falk jefffalk@bu.edu>>>
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