YTSEJAM Digest 3486
Today's Topics:
1) Sarcasm alerts
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
2) Re: Symphony X
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
3) I'm busy - winners from contest
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
4) CDR
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
5) fave guitar solos
by "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org>
6) Re: Don't copy the FII cut tracks to CDR, please.
by "Dario Pepe" <d.pepe@tuttocitta.it>
7) ndtc
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
8) POPE in Cuba w/DT!
by "Kevin Villines" <kvill@flash.net>
9) GUITAR SOLOS
by calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro)
10) MP3 files, the final word
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) Guitar Heros
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
12) re: Symphony X
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3484
by "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) A DT fan's dream
by "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org>
15) Lobsterman 'n' Viccles
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
16) Lobsterman 'n' Viccles
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
17) To Live Forever / EOJ
by "Nick Giannotti" <nickg@gis.net>
18) Re: Paul Stanley
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
19) The Copyright Stuff and The Petition
by Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:15:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sarcasm alerts
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980121181348.16055C-100000@thunder>
Some people need sarcasm alerts.. It appeared to me that the person who
was going to sell the unreleased tracks on CD-R was JOKING!! (of course I
could be dead wrong as well <grin>). He was trying to be as absurd as
possible.
Toodles
-Ponte
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:17:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Symphony X
Message-ID: <199801212317.SAA08252@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Some recordings get mixed reviews here on the jam, but Symphony X's DWoT
> seems to only get good reviews. Is this a universal, thumbs-up recording?
> (At least by Ytsejam standards.) Would everyone who has purchased it buy it
> again if it were lost?
>
> - BH
>
Hell, I HAVE a copy of the album on tape, and I just ordered it
on CD for myself.......
The only problem some people have with the album is the Ronnie
James Dio-like vocals on some of the songs......
The album definitely kicks though.........
-Al
-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Her mouth is a soft explosion of roses A burst of raw animal definition For a few moments I was mortal......... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:20:44 -0500 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm busy - winners from contest Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980121182044.00a04c00@mailhost.eng.fore.com>
I promise I'll be in touch with the winners of last week's tape giveaway. Many problems at work this week keeping me off the net. Hopefully I'll have the list by Friday.
KAI
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:39:38 -0800 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CDR Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980121153938.0083bbe0@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Uh, guys?
I think GrahmCracker was kidding about the $60 bucks.
I mean, if you hold shift down while you type $60, you get
$^)
At least Rogerio caught on...
Jon
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:52:00 -0500 From: "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: fave guitar solos Message-ID: <001901bd26cf$f3cb13a0$07c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
> From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> > Subject: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos anyone? :) > > Steve Vai's "Die to Live"......one of the greatest pieces I know. When I > watch him do it on the Alien Love Secrets video, just compounds the > awesomeness factor.
Yup yup, this was my all-time fave solo until i heard his say at a clinic that HIS favorite Vai song was For the Love of God, so i started listening to that more, and now i like both of them. Love of God, Die to Live, and Scarred are my fave solos.
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> From: "II Stephane Fortin" <s21639@rmc.ca> > Subject: FII unreleased tracks... > > Hi jammers! > I just can't believe some people can do that to others. About the > unreleased material from FII, instead of freakin paying "60$ US", you
Actually, it was $60 plus $10 shipping per CD, so basically $70.
Well, I'm sure that several people are gonna reply to this (or already have, since there's 2 unread jams in my inbox - and i bet ya there'll be one more by the time i finish reading those 2), but Grahm was kidding. It was a satire on the whole morality of bootlegging thread that we recently managed to kill (again). Not that i minded it - it was one of the few things i read here that actually interested me... Oh well, umm, moo?
--
This is my sig.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:43:51 +0100 From: "Dario Pepe" <d.pepe@tuttocitta.it> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Don't copy the FII cut tracks to CDR, please. Message-ID: <01bd26c6$6d8ed820$d8826ec3@hansolo>
Hi there, this is my first post to the jam so... [LURK MODE OFF]
Mike Bahr said: > Like the subject says. The band has made it clear that we're going to > get legit CDs of the cut tracks from FII in some form or another > (indeed, all but WAYN and RTK are already out!!) and to copy them at > this point would be piracy, not bootlegging.
You're right Mike, but I'd like to know where I can find the official release of "Cover My Eyes", since it isn't on HY single neither on FII Japanese ed.
Thanks to anyone that will answer...
Goodbye Dario Pepe d.pepe@tuttocitta.it (large messages or binaries) dpepe@geocities.com (short messages and *no binaries*)
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:02:28 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ndtc Message-ID: <01ISNDOGVZG2000W72@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
This will be incredibly abusing the ytsejam, and has *no bearing whatsover* on dream theater, but what the hell:
anyone wanna buy some used rollerblades? Get a great deal while you can. I'm getting a new pair so I don't need my spiritblades anymore. E-me for details. Ask your friends. How about you bandmembers? Give a fanboy a break!
now back to your regularly scheduled "digital vs. analog" argument...
josh rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:20:53 -0600 From: "Kevin Villines" <kvill@flash.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: POPE in Cuba w/DT! Message-ID: <199801220018.SAA03335@endeavor.flash.net>
The Pope rocks! I think we should call it "When Pope and James unite!" Can you imagine the duets!
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:15:32 -0500 From: calfaro@caribe.net (Carlos Alfaro) To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: GUITAR SOLOS Message-ID: <34C69DB4.898961@caribe.net>
Dan McCormack wrote: Yup yup, this was my all-time fave solo until i heard his say at a clinic
that HIS favorite Vai song was For the Love of God, so i started listening to that more, and now i like both of them. Love of God, Die to Live, and Scarred are my fave solos.
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Im gonna put my 2 cents in..
DT: TAMP - picturing this solo , in the frame of mind i always use (thinking of it as JP expressing the immediate pain, anger and frustration that one fells after a loved ones death.) always brings a lump in my throat.. (no pun intended) Hells Kitchen - This whole song gives me goosebumps.. Scarred - just flat out rules Awake heavy jam - done after LSOAD during the awake tour.. JP's solo shows how he moved a bit into the jazz guitar realm...(IMO) Also...I feel JP shouldve just left the wah out of peruvian skies' solo... on the fix tape i have it sounds much more emotional..without the wah... same with voices.. thats probably my least favorite of his solos.. sounds like Hammet in there.....
theres many many more..these are the ones off the top of my head..
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:23:24 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MP3 files, the final word Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980121221814.9896A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Ok.
It seems that the subject will be very recurrent and I'll take a step ahead and make a tutorial about it. Expect it by Saturday.
Covered topics:
- "I don't know what a MP3 file is, can you help?" - "Hey, now that I know what it is, how do I get these damn things playing on my computer?" - "Cool, Man! How do I make my own MP3 files? Do I need extra software?" - "Hummm... I have a bunch of MP3 files here, how do I put them on a CD, for playing on my friend's CD player?"
I was motivated by the last question, which appeared here and some people asked for help, but I'm not able to type it here now (I'm tired, I'm going to bed). Included will be many links.
[]s attacked by Sandman, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:27:00 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitar Heros Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980121192357.16226C-100000@thunder>
DAMMIT!!! NO ONE MENTIONED MY FAVOURITE SOLO OF ALL TIME!!!
The guitar at the end of 'Comfortably Numb' by Pink Floyd I have heard 10 different versions, and they all just lift me to nwe emotional levels. My favourites include the live concert versions, especially from the 1994 tour where the solo was over eight minutes of pure guitar/emotional ecstacy!.
Sorry.. its my favourite song of all time as well =)
-Ponte
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:29:35 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: Symphony X Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980121191109.13030A-100000@voyager.cris.com>
On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Brian Hansen wrote:
> Some recordings get mixed reviews here on the jam, but Symphony X's DWoT > seems to only get good reviews. Is this a universal, thumbs-up recording? > (At least by Ytsejam standards.) Would everyone who has purchased it buy it > again if it were lost?
Yes, without hesitation, and I'd pick up 10 extra copies to give as gifts for friends, if I had that many friends. This disc holds the record in my CD collection for spending the most time in my CD player. Get it, and while you're at it pick up their previous release "The Damnation Game". It also kicks major ass.
Rick Audet
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:32:03 -0500 From: "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3484 Message-ID: <002001bd26d5$8c841d80$07c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
>From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> >Subject: Re: FII unreleased tracks... > > So you think $60 is way too little?? :-)) Ok. I'll charge you $75 >for it, with RtK *WITH* vocals. By me. :-) > > Shipping: $15. You know, the way here to Brazil from the US has a >lot of difficulties, many jungles with snakes, the rainforest, you know.
Oh, now see? his response was way cooler. Why can't i be cool? Dammit.
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>From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com> >Subject: Castronovo
> >Was this drummer you speak of Dean Castronovo? He is one of the baddest >drummers on the face of the earth. I have seen him with Bad English, and
Hehehe, i was about to correct you and say "worst." :)
Moo.
--
Dan McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:43:41 -0500 From: "Dan McCormack" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A DT fan's dream Message-ID: <002701bd26d7$2be51720$07c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
>From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) >Subject: Re: $60, are you nuts!!! > >First 100 people to buy the DVD will receive a very rare video of DT playing >Cuba with the Pope guesting on vocals...
Sign me up for those 100, k mosh? whnat's that gonna be, about $3K? Hell, well worth it to snatch up every copy of what's sure to be a collector's item and thus monopolize the DT bootleg/piracy market. Oops, sorry for posting this publicly. But i'm too lazy to copy this and paste it in a private e-mail to you, so oh well. It's short, you guys can skip it. So here's your warning: this message had no DTC, skip it if you want. Moo.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:38:28 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lobsterman 'n' Viccles Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980121193828.0074a488@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>BTW, Lobsterman, the greatest vocalist of all time, hands down, with no if 's, >and's, or but's is.... PAUL STANLEY !!!!!!!!!
Lobsterman. I guess that's me? Maybe not. Perhaps there's another Lobster-related personage on this list I'm not familiar with.
Paul Stanley's Scottish? Hrmm... Since the thread was Scottish singers/lyricists/songwriters after all...or maybe it was another thread altogether! As a great talkshow host once said: "I'm all mixed up."
>> Once again, my vote for kick-ass vocalist has to go to Sebastian Bach. >Who's that, I thought we were talking about vocalists.
I think he was like some sort of composer or something...
(He really baroque through on the pop charts. A-ha...doh.)
As his name has come up again lately, I'd like to say to everyone who likes Victor Wooten, or those who haven't heard (of) him and likes wanky-bass guitar, go out and get his newest album, "What Did He Say?" I've given it one listen so far since receiving in the mail today, and I'd warrant saying it is better than its predecessor, "A Show of Hands". For one, he seems to have put less emphasis on serious song-content (practically all the songs on ASoH are about racism) and more on having fun. So you get all sorts of stuff, from the Celtic sounding "The Sojourn of Arjuna" to the Zappa-ish "The Lonliest Monk" to the cover of the Beatles' "Norwegian Woord" (all done on a bass, one track). Pick it up if'n you get a chance.
To anyone interested, I'm selling dubbed copies of Dream Theater's newest studio album, "Falling Into Infinity". $58 plus applicable sales tax for a high-quality, durable Maxell Type II tape with my fanciful rendition of the cover art (including the inside cover if you know what I mean... tee hee) drawn in crayon on the J-card. They're going fast so send your order ASAP to Capitalism@aol.com.
Arraight, deyn.
Brian "Kaiser Blade" Henderson
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:08:05 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lobsterman 'n' Viccles Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980121200805.006c4fa8@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>BTW, Lobsterman, the greatest vocalist of all time, hands down, with no if 's, >and's, or but's is.... PAUL STANLEY !!!!!!!!!
Lobsterman. I guess that's me? Maybe not. Perhaps there's another Lobster-related personage on this list I'm not familiar with.
Paul Stanley's Scottish? Hrmm... Since the thread was Scottish singers/lyricists/songwriters after all...or maybe it was another thread altogether! As a great talkshow host once said: "I'm all mixed up."
>> Once again, my vote for kick-ass vocalist has to go to Sebastian Bach. >Who's that, I thought we were talking about vocalists.
I think he was like some sort of composer or something...
(He really baroque through on the pop charts. A-ha...doh.)
As his name has come up again lately, I'd like to say to everyone who likes Victor Wooten, or those who haven't heard (of) him and likes wanky-bass guitar, go out and get his newest album, "What Did He Say?" I've given it one listen so far since receiving in the mail today, and I'd warrant saying it is better than its predecessor, "A Show of Hands". For one, he seems to have put less emphasis on serious song-content (practically all the songs on ASoH are about racism) and more on having fun. So you get all sorts of stuff, from the Celtic sounding "The Sojourn of Arjuna" to the Zappa-ish "The Lonliest Monk" to the cover of the Beatles' "Norwegian Woord" (all done on a bass, one track). Pick it up if'n you get a chance.
To anyone interested, I'm selling dubbed copies of Dream Theater's newest studio album, "Falling Into Infinity". $58 plus applicable sales tax for a high-quality, durable Maxell Type II tape with my fanciful rendition of the cover art (including the inside cover if you know what I mean... tee hee) drawn in crayon on the J-card. They're going fast so send your order ASAP to Capitalism@aol.com.
Arraight, deyn.
Brian "Kaiser Blade" Henderson
=========================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ ===========================
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:05:08 -0500 From: "Nick Giannotti" <nickg@gis.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: To Live Forever / EOJ Message-ID: <199801220206.VAA13076@home.gis.net>
I am looking for a copy of the studio version of "To Live Forever". Any help would be appreciated, as I have never heard the harmonies of this song (which are supposed to rule). :)
And can I just say that I'm now dick-so-hard over the fact that I got two EOJ's in ONE DAY?!?!? OH YEAH.
-Nicholas "Anyone who believes in psychokineses, please raise my right hand."
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 20:29:26 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Paul Stanley Message-ID: <34c6af052ba9002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:35:21 -0800 (PST) from jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk):
> >> BTW, Lobsterman, the greatest vocalist of all time, hands down, with > > no > >if 's, > >> and's, or but's is.... PAUL STANLEY !!!!!!!!! > > > > > >You'll get nothing but thumbs up from me. That guy actually sounds > >better the older he gets. Amazing.
He put on some amazing exhibitions when I saw them last spring. Boy, he's gut lung power, lemme tell ya'.
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:31:49 -0500 From: Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Copyright Stuff and The Petition Message-ID: <34C6AF95.FC70331E@enter.net>
Well I needed to put my 2 cents worth into this conversation about the copyright law. The only reason I'm going to say what I'm going to say is that Sony is holding the Echolyn albums and is not making them available for sale.
With the Copyright Law (which is from 1962 I believe and has been amended several times to make it more modern - mostly for the internet). But the real issue with the copyright law was and still is, is so people that produce a work/art that they are paid for it and that it is not stolen. I've studied the boring law in college and had to read about 500 some odd pages (SERIOUSLY) about the law - can you say boring.
Anyway the law obviously protects the artist. But as the example with blockbuster video that was brought up - copying THEIR video is legal. AS LONG as the video is used for personal use AND NOT SOLD!!!!!!!!! That is the kicker! The copyright rule obviously does not go out and say that, but in a round about way does say it (BTW I worked for Blockbuster Video for 3 years).
So what I'm saying, and again mainly because Sony is holding the albums and not allowing them to be purchased, COPY AWAY. It doesn't matter if it is analog or digital. Just don't sell. If you want a couple bucks for the cost of the blank disk - that's fine. I wouldn't say this if the CD's were available - but since Echolyn can't make any money regardless ----just do it.
The copyright law is fairly vague and covers a lot of stuff. But I believe since the government loves screwing us......well you know....although what you're doing is legal any ways.
I hope this clears up the copyright law mess.
THE PETITION-
Why do hell do you want to put a petition out, when Mike has already said that there will be an album out this summer? Even if not.....you think a petition will have any effect after sending one last year.....NOPE.
DAS IST ALES!
DUESTER
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