YTSEJAM Digest 3493
Today's Topics:
1) Guitar Solos, Singers
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
2) Magna Carta
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
3) Dream Theater content, you asked for it
by rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
4) Columbia House
by "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
5) Stratovarius and MC
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
6) Payne's Gray
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
7) Chaos Theory new name needed
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
8) Skid Row/Warrant/Firehouse/NDTC anywhere
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
9) DTFAQ
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
10) Umpf. No. Schtupf.
by "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi>
11) Stratovarius / SX
by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
12) DRUMMERS
by David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
13) Re: Live at the Olympia
by Parffit Jim Balsanelli da Silva <bre15253@datasul.com.br>
14) Anna Lee
by o-karmic@jmk.su.se (Michael Karlsson)
15) FAQing women
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:25:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Guitar Solos, Singers
Message-ID: <19980123062504.7804.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
Ok. This is my list of favourite guitar solos. I didn't put anything
from JP ç
'cause we all know how good they are!
Steve Rothery (Marillion)-'Sugar Mice' this one is as emotive as
Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb, already mentioned in the jam
Ace Frehley (KISS)-'Makin' Love' from Alive II: Ace really smokes on
this one.
Dave Meniketti (Y&T)-'I Believe in You' from Open Fire live album
Yngwie Malmsteen- anything from his first 2 albums
Ritchie Blackmore (Rainbow)- ‘Stargazer' any version: live, studio,
anything
Randy Jackson (Zebra)- ‘Bears' from the album No Tellin' Lies
Frank Hannon (Tesla)- ‘Love Song' from The Great Radio Controversy
Alex Lifeson (RUSH)- ‘Limelight'
Allan Holdsworth (UK) - anything from UK's only CD with Allan
Vivian Campbell - ‘Rainbow in the Dark' from DIO's Holy Diver
Ian Chrichton (SAGA) - ‘It's Time'
John Sykes or Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy) - Baby Please Don't Go (I
don't know who plays this solo)
Andrew Latimer (Camel)- everything but specially ‘Ice' from the
album I Can See Your House From Here and ‘The Last Farewell' from
Nude.
As for singers, well Paul Stanley was my favourite rock star when I
was growing up, but Geddy Lee, Rob Halford and Ronnie James Dio are
the best IMHO.
PS: Does anyone know what ever happened to Zebra?
Bye
BP
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:38:07 -0700
From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Magna Carta
Message-ID: <v01540b01b0eddd061657@[205.134.227.25]>
Someone wrote;
>> How many bands on the MC label have ever toured and more specifically
>> toured the USA ?
I think at least the Black Light Syndrome did tour in Japan but not in the
States.
AE
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:08 -0500
From: rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater content, you asked for it
Message-ID: <o6rx0MlyZQcE092yn@ime.usp.br>
Ok. Many tiny bits of DTC here for you:
* You know you're a DT fan when you spend 10 minutes looking
to the "Lie" single cover and discover that there's the
Majesty logo in the pupil of the eye pict. Wow;
* To you luck owners of the XCD: are there any comments on
who are the "Del Fuvio Monks"?
* Wouldn't it be nice if we had a video for each tour
completed by the band (Portnoy, hint, hint!)? I mean, we
already have one from the I&W tour and it would be nice to
have others from other tours. It would decrease the need
people have to be looking for bootlegs and the band could
profit from material that they have already performed. Of
course, the worst part would be getting it released by some
label/whatever, but I don't think that this is a serious
problem anymore, since Dream Theater is getting bigger day
after day (they're undoubtedly the biggest band of "the
underground"). But please, two important points: it would
be nice if the band could keep the video *long* (1.5 hours
aren't enough, for the fans need an overdose of DT :-))
and, the second point, if they didn't break the atmosphere
of the show putting interviews in the middle of the
performance -- put the interviews/extra shooting at the
beginning of the tape, before the show;
* A live album from each tour (double disc, perhaps) would
also be nice. You'd get all the cool production and
wouldn't have to stick to some shitty boots, where you have
to pretend that you're not hearing the hiss or the lack of
high frequencies. I'm no audiphile, but I do appreciate a
high quality recording. Suggestion for tracks, if it's not
possible/feasible to have a double album from an entire
concert: extended "Metropolis", extended "Learning to
Live", "Caught in Alice's 9-Inch Tool Garden", electric
"Hollow Years", electric "The Silent Man", acoustic "Wait
for Sleep", old "Burning My Soul", old "Lines in the Sand".
BTW, definition of audiophile: someone who listens to the
system instead of the music. :-)
If D-Man, Skadz or other semi-gods could forward this message
to the band, I'd be very much obliged.
Cya, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:47:57 -0600 From: "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Columbia House Message-ID: <000701bd27d3$395b2820$560a10d0@mattymo.inxpress.net>
I dunno if anyone posted this yet... but I got my thing from Columbia House... and there was a separate piece of paper in with the big envelope... with the "Artist Spotlight"... guess who... yup! O.F.B.!!!!! There's a little bio, and you can order the last 3 "official" releases and FII of course. They got the album pics for Awake and I&W mixed up with the descriptions... heehee...
</lurk mode>
The Mosh Pit Homepage: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo/moshpit My Hompage: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stratovarius and MC Message-ID: <199801230809.AA23439@crl.crl.com>
> >NP: Stratovarius, VISIONS -- sounds good. They have a hard-edged > >"this would be a likely Magna Carta band" feel. :) > > Magna Carta feel? ROTFL! Boy, you need to listen to some more Noise > Records' bands. Old Helloween and Scanner, old and current Gamma Ray, > anyone? Besides, they have a seven record deal with Noise, so they > will not sign with Magna Carta. Compared to Noise, Magna Carta promotes > their bands downright badly. When was the last time you heard/read a > Magna Carta band touring the world?
Umm, methinks you misunderstood. :) Read it again; I said Strat. had a Magna Carta-like sound (i.e., they sound like they'd fit in well in MC's stable of bands). I'd never recommend that as a place to go, though, since you're right, MC does jack-shit for promotion.
OTOH, when's the last time Superior, also a Noise Recs band, toured the US? When's the last time you spotted them (or Stratovarius, for that matter) in a US record store? Anyone? Bueller?
> Paul Cashman: > >list, along with S-X again. (What to get by Spock's Beard? I > >have several to choose from....) > > Buy everything. The best new prog-band since Marillion. Mike Portnoy said > that, and he's right. I saw them live here in Germany on Tuesday and they were > so FUCKING good, it was frightening!
Assume that for now, I can only buy one CD by Spock's. Which one should I get? (I think Laser's Edge has 'em all....)
-- Paul W. Cashman ICQ #4151223 | Better the pride that resides vanyel@crl.com | In a Citizen of the World www.crl.com/~vanyel | Than the pride that divides lyrics by Neil Peart ----------> When a colorful rag is unfurled
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Payne's Gray Message-ID: <199801230826.AA24535@crl.crl.com>
> Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > Paul Cashman listed a couple of the new album's Laser's Edge had shipped > him: > > Payne's Gray -- Kadath Decoded > > Hey, Paul, when you get a chance to listen to this, post a review if you > get a chance. When Thrak played it for us the night of the Marietta Fates > Warning show, I liked what I heard of it -- but I was too keyed up waiting > for Fates by then to pay any real attention.
Ooops, I thought it was your CD I heard that Fate-ful night. :)
> What's the straight dope on this one? Is it worth Ken Golden's raves?
Expecting straight dope from me? Uh, okay-y-y.... :) ~~~~~~~~ It's quite interesting -- several different styles, including an opening that immediately reminded me of The Changelings, a band near and dear to both of us (Atlanta's best goth band, for the rest of youse guys :)). I've only listened to it once so far since I'm working thru all five CDs in sequence, and there's a lot to Payne's Gray that demands further listening. I'll post some deeper thoughts on my Website after I listen to it more. (And I have a cassette here from Bernd B. I want to hear soon, too, with Clawfinger and Vanden Plas on it. :))
NP: Symphony X, DIVINE WINGS.... Every bit as good as everyone else has said. :)
-- Paul W. Cashman ICQ #4151223 | Better the pride that resides vanyel@crl.com | In a Citizen of the World www.crl.com/~vanyel | Than the pride that divides lyrics by Neil Peart ----------> When a colorful rag is unfurled
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:49:37 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chaos Theory new name needed Message-ID: <34C859A1.FFD9FFF8@sydney.net>
Okay Matt Guillory from Chaos Theory has asked for us jammers help. The band will be needing a new name to avoid potential 'legal issues' If anyone has some serious ideas for this please mail ME with your ideas and I will pass them on to Matt.
The band will enter the studio next month to record their debut album but in the meantime check out some soundclips at: http://www.netwiz.net/~vertigo/music.html If you have never heard CT before, check them out, the mp3 files are demo's, but give you an idea of the great potential of Chaos Theory.
If you have some ideas, please mail me, with the subject 'CT NAME'.
graham
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:10:46 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Skid Row/Warrant/Firehouse/NDTC anywhere Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980123091046Z-53464@ms.Kallback.com>
>> And I agree that Subhuman Race was a great album.... >I didn't really care for this one. Too much of a grunge feel for me. I totally agree. Same with the last two Warrant cds. I like progressive bands to progress, but I like cheesy 80's hair bands to stay the same. That's why I like Firehouse.
Trevor ps. I'm serious. > >
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:18:44 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DTFAQ Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980123091844Z-53469@ms.Kallback.com>
I have decided to stop maintaining the Frequently Asked Questions list. But I don't really know who should be the next maintainer. So, I'm having a contest. --------------------------------------- I vote for MP!!!
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Date: 23 Jan 98 11:43:18 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <Marko.Ollila@logisware.fi> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Umpf. No. Schtupf. Message-ID: <00211246070000010103EB875F042E@mail.logisware.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids....
Vince "Megadeth" LuPone said:
>>Hell, all this guitar and bass talk got me fired up....DRUMMERS MAKE >>YOURSELVES HEARD!!! hehehe isn't that what we do best !?!?
>Oh geez, hell's freezin' over. Look! Another one figured out >how to use a computer!!
Oh shit. 1-0 to Vincent. :) At least drummers don't have to argue which one is the fastest. Let's all get along and bash the bass players. :)
>;)~
Vince, you really ought to shave that goatee. You look like something from an alternacrap band. :)
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Paul Dyer let his fingers to the mazurka on his keyboard:
>Fave guitar solos:
>Arcturus - end of first song on "Aspera Hiems Symfonia" (or whatever its >called!?)
That would be "To Thou Who Dwellest in the Night". You're welcome.
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Kevin Madden wrote:
>..and what part of sounding like Ronnie James Dio is the bad >part? I don't think I have ever heard a vocalist (and you are >one, correct?) disparage Dio's abilities before. The man could >(and can, to a certain degree, for a 60 year old guy) sing a >storm. Just curious.
Right. I've always wondered how did they manage to stuff that a big voice to such a compact package. Only Doro Pesch tops Dio in that regard. Although Dio's recent (due) double live album "Dio's Inferno: The Last In Live" can beconsidered two pretty sad pieces of plastic, Dio still remains in the ranks of all time vocal Gods to me. Review of the aforementioned album due sometime soon.
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Adam Cook intelligently wrote:
>People seem to want to either call a band prog-metal or just plain power >metal these days. I think there are a ton of bands however that are putting >out stuff that falls somewhere inbetween. I find Angra to be way more >progressive and innovative than so many of the bands that are supposedly >progressive. Ah who cares, categories suck!
So they do, but pigeonholing is fun. :) It makes things easier. :)
------- D-Man tries to escape his responsibilities:
>I am extremely proud of all that I have been able to accomplish, for >us and for the band, during the brief time that I have been the FAQ >maintainer. It has also been a great deal of fun, as any labor of >love should be. But crunch time has started for me at school, and I >just don't have the time to do what I need to here, and still be fair >to you, my fellow Jammers, and to the band.
You still have to include Derek's official joining date to the FAQ. Otherwise I will have to kill ya. :) <J/K> All the best to ya in school!
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About MC's promotion work for their bands...why do the few MC bands' members I've spoken to all complain about the lack of touring? Makes me wonder...I know some Noise bands' members too and I haven't heard anyone complain.
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Is there any fans of the band THRESHOLD here? I have a few promo CDs from a band called MINDFEED (which includes ex-Threshold members Glynn Morgan (vocals/guitar) & Jay Micciche (Drums) on my hands and I would like to give them away to Threshold fans. First come, first served. Now of course I could sell the promos but that would be immoral, wouldn't it? :) More info about the band at http://www.mindfeed.demon.co.uk/.
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Moreover, does someone want to buy two Dream Theater discs? I have extra copies of "Official 1986 Demos" and "Instrumental" on my hands and I would like to sell them. Highest bid of each disc gets it.
_Mr.Ego_
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:50:43 +1000 From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stratovarius / SX Message-ID: <34C867F3.3F31@winshop.com.au>
> Would you please tell me who and where has anyone called Stratovarius > as Symphony X's once-superiors?
What I meant was that Stratovarius have been around longer than SX doing the neoclassical thing. I meant 'superiors' as in an 'elders' sort of thing.
> I'll shed some light to this. Three of the five guys in Stratovarius > list "The Divine Wings of Tragedy" as their favourite album last year.
Good for them.
> I can't even fathom which logic makes you compare Stratovarius and > Symphony X.
I consider them both neoclassical based.
> SX is by no means speed metal.
True.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 05:42:13 -0500 From: David_Cuthbert@Interflora.CCMAIL.compuserve.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DRUMMERS Message-ID: <199801230545_MC2-3060-6B46@compuserve.com>
One of my fav drum solos is by Mark Mondesir when playing with Julian Joseph at 'Jazz Night at the Proms' If you like drums and Jazz check this out it is awesome. There are so many others, this is just one great one. David C.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:46:26 -0200 From: Parffit Jim Balsanelli da Silva <bre15253@datasul.com.br> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Live at the Olympia Message-ID: <E093B0819442D111AD45002048089A6F3BF53E@itapoa.datasul.com.br>
Rogerio Brito wrote: >Olympia??? Is this a bootleg of the brazilian show??? Wow, very >curious. Didn't know it existed.
This was the same feeling I had when I noticed the release of this CD (Deep Purple - Live At The Olympia)!!! But it isn't from brazilian Olympia... This CD was recorded in the beginning of Purpendicular Tour, in Paris, and it's a double CD that bring the whole show from one night. Sorry, I have this CD but it's at home (now I'm working). So if anyone want more info about it, e-mail me...
>[]s, Roger...
Parffit Jim Balsanelli
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:07:10 +0200 From: o-karmic@jmk.su.se (Michael Karlsson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anna Lee Message-ID: <b0ee230001021004463b@[130.237.155.161]>
Here are some of my opinions on the subjects that have been discussed on the jam lately:
Anna Lee-It's in my opinion one of the very best songs on FII. Extremely beautiful. I love that song so much now, although I wasn't that into it at first. FII as a whole has really grown on me, and I think it's a masterpiece. It's my fave DT-album after IAW.
Symphony X-Am I the only one on the jam that doesn't love the band? I only "like" them. :) I recently bought the Damnation Game and The Divine Wings of Tradegy. I was a little disappionted, they did not live up to my very high expectations. I should not listen to hype, I know. I like the albums, but the masterpiece-quality seems to be hopelessly lacking to me. The band is very tight and skillful, but that's not enough. The songs on TDWOT sound a bit too similar to each other to me. Most of them are fast and aggressive, and the slow , melodic parts are too few for my liking. More songs like Candlelight Fantasies and Winter's Dream would do wonders for the albums as a whole. Endless shredding and double-kick drumming doesn't sound that impressive anymore after an hour of it. I hope their next cd will be more varied. I really love the vocals on the other hand. Allen sounds a lot like Dio, he's almost half as good, and that's already "great" :) If anyone has problems with the Dio-type voice...well, I can't understand that. The song The Divine Wings of Tradegy is very good. The slightly jazzy part is great. I certainly understand why people like SX, but to me they are WAY below Dream Theater, Fates Warning and, dare I say it, even Shadow Gallery. I think I prefer Angra and Artension to SX, too.
Shadow Gallery-Great! One of my favorites. Carved in Stone is really a masterpiece. It might be cheesy in places, but it's cheesy in a Queen-like way, and I have no problem with that. The songs Don't ever cry just remember and Ghostship stand out as the best songs on the album to me.
Genesis-The album Foxtrot (1972) turned me into a fan. Selling England by the Pound (1973) is great too. The 80's stuff is very different. I can appreciate it, but there simply are no songs like "Watcher of the Skies", "Supper's Ready" or "Firth of Fifth" on their later albums. I can't believe that someone said he liked "Where the Sour Turns to Sweet", a.k.a. "From Genesis to Revelation", their first album. You're the first I've heard say that :)
Guitar solos-I feel I have to mention a few ones: Highway Star - Ritchie Blackmore Deuce - Ace Frehley The Messiah Will Come Again - Gary Moore Take the Time - JP Most solos by a guy called Petri Walli who played in a Finnish powertrio called Kingston Wall. The songs Time and The Real Thing are great for example.
..and MANY more...most have been mentioned already. I was happy to see someone mentioned Chopin Fantasie by Ron Thal (hope I got that one right)...that one made my chin drop to the floor when I first heard it.
Don't believe me, just listen to me :)
Michael Karlsson
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:54:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FAQing women Message-ID: <Marcel-1.26-0123115459-868rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
Anyone ever fantasise about being Kathy Bates's character in Misery? Just imagine being able to wield absolute power over your hero.
"Now, guys, I'm sure you'll understand that you *will* record Metropolis II, especially for me, or else I might just have to break your legs . . ."
(I don't normally fantasise about being female. Honestly.)
On a related note, if a good-looking girl were to start fondling me at a concert, I'd stand there and enjoy it. To hell with the music.
Anyone who applies for the position of FAQ Maintainer is really just looking for a sneaky way of getting "in" with Mike Portnoy, and getting put on guest lists, etc. I think Chris should offer the job to someone who *doesn't* want it! ;-)
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889
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