YTSEJAM Digest 3510
Today's Topics:
1) Subconscious For Sale
by James Utz <james.utz@usa.net>
2) Metallica & the DT flick
by HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
3) Re: Metallica & the DT flick
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3509
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
5) Bizarre Connection
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
6) Re: Working Man lineup
by Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
7) KevMo's Stuff
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
8) Music/Ptacek/AOL/Spice Theater
by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
9) Working Man
by Michael Karlsson <o-karmic@jmk.su.se>
10) Chris Poland
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
11) Iced Earth
by Vito Staedler <vito.staedler@alcatel.ch>
12) Re: [Metallica & the DT flick]
by CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net>
13) Demo MP3s, DT Movie, and much, much more! (maybe)
by CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net>
14) Re: Dr. Mosh
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
15) Queensryche Breakup
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
16) Let's get ready to rumble...
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
17) Re: Back to the Future
by "Cassiano Barbosa" <cassirad@hotmail.com>
18) Source of ProgMetal bands/CDs info - Jammers
by Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com>
19) Video for this tour..
by Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB)
20) Interesting
by someone@prognosis.com
21) Jap FII for sale
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:07:07 -0500
From: James Utz <james.utz@usa.net>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Subconscious For Sale
Message-ID: <34CE92CB.FCB8C44F@usa.net>
I'm selling an original "Subconscious" (#426) for $100
on a first come, first served basis. Please respond to
me at james.utz@usa.net if you are interested.
Thanks,
James
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:25:48 EST
From: HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica & the DT flick
Message-ID: <161d56f5.34cea53e@aol.com>
>No, [James] is a poseur, get over it, he couldn't afford his Rogaine anymore,
so
>he had to put out ReLoad with his cronies and cut his hair... maybe he'll
>grow it back out now that he can afford his $1000/day Rogaine habit...
Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong, thanks for playing. James was involved in an ATV
accident while hunting which required 40 stitches in his head. Then he quite
simply got it cut. And IMO, they never sold out, Ptacek is wrong (which he
has every right to be), and Kevin Smith should direct the DT movie. The
Silent Men, Silent Bob and John Myung, could unite. Derek could be Rick
Derris. Portnoy could get into a fight (box?) with Jason Lee. Petrucci could
argue "6-string vs. 7-string" with Ben Affleck. And James could get his weed
from Jay. Snoochie boochies.
Jack
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:06:10 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metallica & the DT flick
Message-ID: <199801280406.UAA14363@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, HseJackBlt said:
>
>Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong, thanks for playing. James was involved in an ATV
>accident while hunting which required 40 stitches in his head. Then he quite
>simply got it cut. And IMO, they never sold out, Ptacek is wrong (which he
Damn, just think, if James died, then all that would be left is the real
sellout cookies, Lars and Kirk, the two biggest cheezwiz addicts in the band.
Jason doesn't count, cause he's in it for the money... bwahhahah
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:50:11 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3509 Message-ID: <v01530507b0f4546e6781@[209.50.100.158]>
>>BTW, if you are interested in getting a dub of Angra's >>bootleg called "Holy Land in the East", I can sell you a CD-R >> copy of this 2CD set for $30 (that's $15 for each disc, which
Nah, thanks anyway. I'm savin up for the underoos <g>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:47:46 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bizarre Connection Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980128014746.0072f890@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>And Backstreet Boys, much to my dismay, actually made it to >the U.S. too.
Oh, you mean NKotB II? Yep. We Americans, and I speak for us as a country here, have some pretty crappy musical taste.
Any other 'Jammers going to the DC $1.01 Big Wreck show on Saturday?!
Brian "DTC?" Henderson
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:17:46 +1000 From: Graham Boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Working Man lineup Message-ID: <34CEDB9A.9FC7CAB9@sydney.net>
Phil Carter wrote: > Brendt Allman G -- Shadow Gallery > Carl Cadden-James B -- Shadow Gallery > Deen Castronovo D -- Multitalented session musician; has played on > many Shrapnel albums > Trent Gardner K -- Magellan > Jake E. Lee G -- Ozzy Osbourne's band; played in Badlands > before their breakup > George Lynch G -- Dokken; currently in Lynch Mob > James Murphy G,K -- Testament > Mike Pinnella K -- Symphony X > Michael Romeo G -- Symphony X > Jack Russell V -- Great White > Joey Vera B -- Fates Warning; played in Armored Saint > before Fates > Brad Kaiser D -- Magellan > Sean Malone B -- formerly of Cynic (Chapman Stick too) > Gary Wehrkamp K -- Shadow Gallery (plays guitar too)
Lets not forget Matt Guillory who played keyboards on 'Natural Science' 'YYZ' and 'Jacob's Ladder' too :)
graham
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:02:01 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: KevMo's Stuff Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980128080201Z-3815@ms.Kallback.com>
>Hey fellow DT lovers..... >I'm trying to get ahold of Kevin Moore's "stuff". Sorry blondie, you can't get ahold of his stuff because he is gay. Either that, or his stuff was amputated due to testicular cancer. Or was that Derek? Shit, time to check the FAQ again.
Trevor (a 12 year old girl) >
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 03:37:56 EST From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Music/Ptacek/AOL/Spice Theater Message-ID: <4b43bf38.34ceee66@aol.com>
"Apogiatura" (/appogiatura/appogiattura/appoggiattura) is a nonchordal tone which approaches by leap and ends by step. Jumping from C# up to F# and then down to F is an appogiatura. Sopranos do this a lot. The opposite of this, to approach by step and resolve by leap, is called an "escape tone." The extremely memorable melody from "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind" gives a good example of an escape tone, just play D-E-C on a piano or other instrument. The starting note doesn't really matter, the progression of the notes is what makes them escape tones.
"Melisma" is a virus that attacks a musician's central nervous system and makes what they write/perform very busy and complicated. Mariah Carey became afflicted with melisma at an early age, hence her habit of singing eleven different notes on every syllable she sings. It's not her fault, as there is no known cure for melisma, just monthly treatments which have been known to make one's music more withstandable to the human ear. Some stubborn, prideful victims of melisma, such as Yngwie Malmsteen, go on writing music for years and years without any treatment at all until the damage is irreversible.
During my drive across the country (from Seattle, Washington, to Bethesda, Maryland), I happened to stop along the way in the city of DeKalb, Illinois. There I had the distinct pleasure of jamming with Mr. Chris Ptacek. We traded licks for about two hours. To all the unenlightened who think there's any truth at all in throwing around comments like "Chris Ptacek is an arrogant moron who doesn't know shit about the guitar and can't play a lick to save his life": I'm sorry to inform you that he has mad skills. Mad-crazy-dope-fly- diesel skills to be exact. I think this mailing list is in total agreement that Chris thinks differently than everyone else and seems to actually ENJOY arguing with people, but saying he can't play the guitar is like saying Pat Daugherty can't hold a grudge. And for once in like five years I know what I'm talking about because I was there, axe-to-axe, trying to keep up with all eight of Chris' fingers running around the fretboard like so many wild ferrets...
HEY!! AOL users are people too!! We're not all here because we want to be!! Dr. Mosh is a peepee-head!! Dr. Mosh never gets a warm "You've Got Mail!" greeting when he logs on!! That's because AOL is all about LOVE!! Dr. Mosh ain't got no love!! So nyeahnyeahnyeah!!
Posh Spice: Derek Sherinian (let's face it, separated at birth) Sporty Spice: John Petrucci (they could play soccer together) Scary Spice: Mike Portnoy (let's face it, illegitimate siblings) Baby Spice: John Myung (just stand there and look peaceful) Ginger Spice: James LaBrie (they could trade hair secrets)
Your attention please: "Caught In A Web" is NOT in "Spice World." It's actually Pantera that's playing during the chase scene.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:03:58 +0100 From: Michael Karlsson <o-karmic@jmk.su.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Working Man Message-ID: <v03020903b0f4a3a078a6@[130.237.155.24]>
Just in case anyone else doesn't bother. I know it can be tough to figure out. Hope the jammers won't make too much fun of you for not knowing the guys from Shadow Gallery and Symphony X...:) > Name Instrument Band >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ray Alder V Fates Warning >Brendt Allman G Shadow Gallery >Sebastian Bach V Skid Row >Robert Berry V,G,B,K No idea...some kind of solo artist maybe, >since he plays everything. >Jeff Brockman D Cairo >Carl Cadden-James B Shadow Gallery >Deen Castronovo D Session drummer. Cacophony, Marty Friedman, Bad English, etc. >Marcel Coenen G Lemur Voice >Trent Gardner K Magellan >Stuart Hamm B Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Solo projects >Jake E. Lee G Ex. Ozzy Osbourne, Badlands >James LaBrie V Dream Theater >George Lynch G Dokken, Lynch Mob >Eric Martin V Mr. Big >Jim Matheos G Fates Warning >Steve Morse G Dixie Dregs, Solo band + Deep Purple! >James Murphy G,K He's been in MANY bands. Death, Obituary, >Testament...he's a soloartist, too. >John Petrucci G Dream Theater >Mike Pinnella K Symphony X >Mike Portnoy D Dream Theater >Michael Romeo G Symphony X >Jack Russell V Ex Great White >Mark Slaughter V Slaughter >Billy Sheehan B Mr. Big >Devin Townsend V Strapping Young Lad, Vai's Sex & Religion >Joey Vera B Fates Warning >Gregoor Van Der Loo V Lemur Voice >Mark Zonder D Fates Warning > >There are some other musicians in the liner notes too, such as: > >Richard Chycki G >Matt Guillory K >Brad Kaiser D Sounds familiar...might be Cairo or Magellan. >Sean Malone B Cynic >David Townson G >Gary Wehrkamp K Shadow Gallery > >(Did I miss anybody???) > Take care,
Michael Karlsson
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:03:31 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chris Poland Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980128130331Z-4143@ms.Kallback.com>
Someone mentioned they were listening to Chris Poland's Metalopolis. IMO, this is a pretty good cd. FYI, he played guitar in Damn the Machine. For some reason I sold his cd, years ago. If anyone knows where I can get it, I'd appreciate the info.
Trevor If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:18:23 +0100 From: Vito Staedler <vito.staedler@alcatel.ch> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iced Earth Message-ID: <34CF301F.51F7@alcatel.ch>
Alex wrote:
>They did a tour with Nevermore...
Right!
>there's some video out that I also got to see. The singer- I forget which of the >two bands - had some weird thing going with the front of his hair...
I got about 3 Songs on video from that tour. The singer of IcedEarth is the guy with the very long red hair.
Have you checked the artwork of the DarkSaga album? How is the new album?
SPIDER
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 06:39:59 From: CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: [Metallica & the DT flick] Message-ID: <19980128133959.28706.qmail@www06.netaddress.usa.net>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > >No, [James] is a poseur, get over it, he couldn't afford his Rogaine anymore, > so > >he had to put out ReLoad with his cronies and cut his hair... maybe he'll > >grow it back out now that he can afford his $1000/day Rogaine habit... > > Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong, thanks for playing. James was involved in an ATV > accident while hunting which required 40 stitches in his head. Then he quite > simply got it cut. And IMO, they never sold out, Ptacek is wrong (which he > has every right to be), and Kevin Smith should direct the DT movie. The > Silent Men, Silent Bob and John Myung, could unite. Derek could be Rick > Derris. Portnoy could get into a fight (box?) with Jason Lee. Petrucci could > argue "6-string vs. 7-string" with Ben Affleck. And James could get his weed > from Jay. Snoochie boochies. > > Jack
Question: Who is Ben Affleck? Is he a Ytsejammer?
Craig Griffith: Guitar player, high school student, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:05:10 From: CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Demo MP3s, DT Movie, and much, much more! (maybe) Message-ID: <19980128140510.12851.qmail@www06.netaddress.usa.net>
Several of you have asked me "Where'z the FII demos? I can't find them on 'Under A Cyber Moon' anymore!" To which I say, "Here's the URL. (http://www.webspand.com/system/mp3/Dream_Theater/FII/Demos)" They should be there, as I checked as recently as last night. (I also found "Eve"! All of it!) Which brings me to another point. They all seem to be scrambled! I used uncook, so now they're all right, but I think we Ytsejammers should put up a page with all of them, suitably unscrambled. Are there any volunteers to offer web space? Dr. Mosh, perhaps? Itchy? I would offer myself, but as some or most of you know, I'm either on an AOL account or someone else's MindSpring account, so I don't exactly have space to spare. I have the Burning My Soul and Cover My Eyes demos and Eve that I could e-mail or ICQ to the person who will host them, and I plan on downloading the other FII demos, as well.
Referring now to the Dream Theater/Spice Girls movie, the five members of DT all have distinctly different personalities, but at least they weren't manufactured like the Spice Girls! What the hell is up with that? Are those their actual personalities, or are they simply actresses with great bodies that could sing, too? Also on the DT movie front, maybe we should do something like "Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers" or "Voltron" and have the five members of DT all have smaller robots which all combine into a bigger robot to kick some serious ass, like when "Hansor" (the evil bad music demon) decides suddenly to grow 30 or forty feet in size. Portnoy would be the torso of the thing, with a huge ass bass drum robot. Petrucci and Sherinian would be the arms, with keyboards and 7-string guitar robots. I think Myung could be both legs (one would be a Chapman Stick robot,and the other would be a 6-string bass robot), and LaBrie could be the head...well....with...a...James LaBrie he! ! ! ad robot! Yeah!
..or perhaps not...
Craig Griffith: Guitar player, high school student, King of Craigland http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/8509/ "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" -Ian Anderson
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:36:09 -0600 (CST) From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dr. Mosh Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980128083451.21172A-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Uroborosss wrote:
> Dr. Mosh is a peepee-head!! Dr. Mosh never gets a warm "You've Got Mail!"
I don't think I could have said that better myself.
Of course, he doesn't generally get a warm anything...
;) id
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:07:24 -0600 From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Queensryche Breakup Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980128090722.00690954@enteract.com>
This may be old news (I'm in digest form, which leaves a little slack) but Chris DeGarmo of Queensryche has left the band, and will now do projects with Peter Cornell. The complete story (to save bandwidth, and if this has been mentioned 30,000 times already) can be found here: http://www.queensryche.com/latest_news.html
It's a sad day for some of us!
-Maddy maddy@enteract.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu> To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Let's get ready to rumble... Message-ID: <01ISWNX60EQI8Y6E70@alma.edu>
>From: someone@prognosis.com > > I love how you refuse to let something like this be enjoyable, as >well as refusing to acknowledge my request to take it to private >e-mail. But since you insist on raising points that address my >credibility, I will respond here, as you desire.
Well, I think you totally over-reacted to my post. I certainly didn't mean it the way you took it. Addressing your credibility? I disagreed with you. Anyway, If other people read it the way Chris did then I owe him an apology, so sorry about that. Do you really use all eight fingers? -Clark
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:55:23 PST From: "Cassiano Barbosa" <cassirad@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Back to the Future Message-ID: <19980128155523.6872.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >Hi there, > >Best solos? > >Michael j Fox in "Back to the Future"? > >cheers Ole >
Wasn't that solo recorded by Eddie Van Halen?
Later! Cassiano
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:20:37 -0500 From: Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Source of ProgMetal bands/CDs info - Jammers Message-ID: <5040200010813039000002L092*@MHS>
After reading this page in the Laser's Edge catalog http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/progmetal.html, I wish I was independently wealthy so I could order a bunch of this stuff. I've seen mentions of some of these bands in the 'jam but there's others that I have not seen mentioned.
Check it out if you haven't.
It might be interesting to have jammers post a quick agree or disagree and why with this guy's opinion for bands/CDs they have purchased (other than the ones we've already seen reviewed such as Angra, Symphony X, Superior etc)
Based on the recent dialogue, I ordered Superior/Behind and Symphony X/DWoT. I hope they are a better match to my interests than my first foray into CDs from jammer input: (I jumped on these leads too quickly in hindsight):
--- Shadow Gallery was ok in parts, had a couple tunes I hated, too classical, not enough Metal --- Enchant just didn't do enough for me, I say it's prog ROCK, not my style (prog METAL) --- Fates APSoG was right on!
DF Mo ======================================================================== Dan Senko IBM Global Services, RTP NC
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:14:31 -0500 From: Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca (Lauzon, Gary: IHAB) To: ytsejam@ax.com ('DT') Subject: Video for this tour.. Message-ID: <1998Jan28.111036.1255.1828221@msmail.ic.gc.ca>
Hey Jammers,
I was wondering if any of you would know where to get a bootleg video from this tour.. or the tour they did in Europe in April. If any of you have any information, just e-mail me, I'm ready to pay whatever it takes, thanks
Gary
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:25:17 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Interesting Message-ID: <199801281617.IAA06838@odin.ax.com>
Check it out:
http://www.queensryche.com/latest_news.html
Funny... no sooner should I voice my opinion about Chris DeGarmo, than my girlfriend should pass this information on to me!
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:24:27 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: "'Boston Jammers'" <bostonjam@dreamt.org> Subject: Jap FII for sale Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9F01080A58@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
I had brought back ten copies of the Jap FII back with me from a recent trip as a public service. Bandmembers, note increased sales from one of your most favorite jammers - that cup of coffee this morning is on ME !!
I have one copy of the Jap FII left for distribution. (Unopened, with the bonus CD). This is now a collector's item. I will now be a prick and conduct an auction with the bids starting at $80.
Shit, just kidding. I will sell it for US$25, US postpaid. Cash or MO only. I am not gouging you. When I bought it, the dollar was not as strong as it currently is. This price should be cheaper than anywhere else. And, damn, that little 3 inch CD is soooo cute !! Hear how TAMP is *supposed* to sound. And, hear Speak to Me.
Let me know how fun it is to be in ACK mode ........
Later, Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com
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