YTSEJAM Digest 3514
Today's Topics:
1) Dream Theater rarities and memorabillia
by Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au>
2) stuff/TDoE
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3513
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
4) More Ben---Affleck, not Folds Five--Need I say NDTC?
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
5) MP3 files
by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
6) I'm selling out
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
7) SV: Pat Travers
by "Wille Raab" <raab@mail.bip.net>
8) Subconscious...$100?!
by A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3513
by Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
10) Moonspell/Lacuna Coil
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
11) Conception
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
12) Re: X-Mas CDs, clarification, Ryche
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
13) Iced Earth talk
by Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com>
14) Re: Iron Maiden
by "Cassiano Barbosa" <cassirad@hotmail.com>
15) Re: Jap FII for sale
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:44:54 +1100
From: Scott Fuller <spacedye@acay.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater rarities and memorabillia
Message-ID: <34D04186.CE090798@acay.com.au>
I am currently looking for any pictures of Dream Theater memorabillia,
merchandise, and any rare or autographed items.
I am putting together a visual archive of such things that people had,
and would appreciate if people that had these pictures could send them
to me.
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:48:19 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: stuff/TDoE
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980129084819Z-6996@ms.Kallback.com>
>Ben Affleck He's in another, rather bad movie that I can't
>remember the name to.
That would be Phantoms.
>
>Based on the recent dialogue, I ordered Superior/Behind and Symphony X/DWoT.
>I hope they are a better match to my interests
>--- Shadow Gallery was ok in parts, had a couple tunes I hated, too
>classical,
>
Too classical? You're gonna hate Symphony X. The word "Symphony"
should have clued you in. There's no such thing as too Classical, IMO.
(Yes, trainspotters, I know it's usually Baroque, but Classical gets the
point across. :) )
Here's something you probably already know:
I listened to The Dance of Eternity yesterday (not for sale) for the
first
time in a while. This cd is essential for any DT fan. First off, it has
EVERY song from I&W on it PLUS To Live Forever and Eve!
It also has A Fortune in Lies, The Killing Hand and an almost 10
minute Ytse Jam with an insane drum solo. To top it off there's
a 20 minute A Change of Season with a part VI that will blow your
ass away. The sound is really good, too. James' voice is a little
ragged, but he pulls off the high note in LtL. Also in LtL, Kev makes
a tiny mistake in the intro to prove that he is, in fact, merely mortal.
(and I'm sure MB would agree)
Trevor
"If you must choose between two evils, choose the one you've never tried
before."
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:55:09 -0800
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3513
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980129005509.0085ed30@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>Official Madsman Opinion:
>
> Anyone who would pay more than $20-40 for a subconscious now, when
>there are people who would happily make you a cdr dub (which, in case
>there's anyone who doesn't understand this is EXACTLY the same as the
>original) for around cost ($5-10 TOPS) deserves to be ripped off.
You ever heard of something called a collectors item?
Why actually pay the money for a real Da Vinci? There are prints that look
EXACTLY the same.
Jon
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:06:32 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More Ben---Affleck, not Folds Five--Need I say NDTC?
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980129090632Z-7003@ms.Kallback.com>
>>Ben Affleck is in a couple of new non-Kevin Smith movies this season, Good
>>Will Hunting (Will Hunting's friend in that one, I believe)
>Actually, Kevin co-executive produced Good Will Hunting with Scott Mosier
>(Willam, or "Snowball," the idiot manchild from Clerks).
Ben also, if anyone hasn't mentioned this already, co-wrote GWH with
co-star
Matt Damon.
If anyone cares.
Trevor
"Don't be sexist. Broads hate that."
>
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:19:20 +0000
From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP3 files
Message-ID: <8025659B.00327D34.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk>
Could any helpers e-mail me directly as I'm not subscribed to the jam at
the moment.-------
I recently downloaded the MP3 files of FII session demos TWIUTB Cover my
Eyes etc....
The PC's I get to use (at work) don't have souncards or anything like. Can
these MP3 files be written onto a CD and listened to normally or are they
purely computer based sound files ??????
Any help would be appreciated as it is sooooooo frustrating having these
titles in front of me but not being able to play them.
Regards and frustrated noises
Steve
____________________________________
"do de doo de dooooo dooooo de daa
"do de doo de dooooo dooooo de daa
"do de doo de dooooo dooooo de daa" Quality lyrics from the outro to
"Speak to Me"
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:05:19 +0100
From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I'm selling out
Message-ID: <01BD2D6E.F4265FD0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
No, I'm not selling out (actually I sold my soul to the Devil years ago in
exchange for some of Marilyn Manson's used panties, but that's another
story). However, I am selling the following CDs:
Dream Theater - Subconscious - DM 30
Dream Theater - Lords Of Sound - DM 30
As a special bonus to anybody who buys both (well, all three, because Lords
Of Sound is a double) I will throw in a dub of Kevin Moore's Music To Be
Heard (top quality dub) and cover the postage within Europe. So, who's
interested?
I'll be posting reviews of two new albums (Moonspell and Lacuna Coil) later
today, so stay tuned.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
(http://www.rotten.com)
Currently playing: Moonspell - Sin Pecado
P.S. DM = Deutschmark $1 = DM 1.80
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:00:48 +0100
From: "Wille Raab" <raab@mail.bip.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SV: Pat Travers
Message-ID: <08cda2201111d18MAIL1@mail.bip.net>
> And talking about Iron Maiden, what are they doing nowadays? Any
> new album planned?
2 Feb. "Virtual XI"
The date makes me think "delay"... :-/ ...???
Helloween, spring -98, "Better than raw". I've always come to think of
Helloween when Maiden's the topic..
> I heard that Michael Kiske will substitute Blaze Bailey (sp?). Is there
any truth to this???
Who's that (the first one), and why? It'll probably be better, whoever it
is, but anyway..
// Moose
ICQ: 7080811
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:26:31 +0000
From: A P Longley <ap7032@qmw.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Subconscious...$100?!
Message-ID: <108E15B1470@qmwcc5.qmw.ac.uk>
Just wondering why anyone would be prepared to pay this sort of money
for a bootleg. I mean isn't it's collectabillity completely
contrived. This is a bootleg plain and simple. A lot of people
have access now to a digital recording device i.e MiniDisc or CD-R,
and since this is not an official release, why should anyone have any
problem with making their own digital copies. OR, buying / trading a
CD-R copy for a few bucks. There's no special merit in a silver CD
for me, or a liner not made by the band. It's a boot for god's sake.
Here's my advice, find a friend with CD-R and flog copies for $10
each, - over $5 profit for you and you don't have to sell the
original, and lots more people have the original material - which ,
incidentally, belongs to DT , and DT alone.
Now, I'm sure I'll get some stick for saying that, but the point is
that I can buy the material on tape boots for 1 blank cassette or a
couple of bucks. The material belongs to DT ( or, from another point
of view, to everyone ) so I expect to pay for the cost of the media,
and a little more, to cover time spent. Boots like this should be
available freely at a reasonable price, and the excessive overheads
of Mr Bahr's business combined with what seems like a taboo on
propagating his stuff on CD-R means I have to pay upwards of $40 if I
want some of these things on CD.
So there...
Flame away...
Adrian.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:40:30 -0500
From: Jim Suplizio <jim.suplizio@GSC.GTE.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3513
Message-ID: <34D078BE.4E13@GSC.GTE.com>
Steve Z wrote:
> Amen, brother. I don't know whether or not Chris triggered the
> demise of the greatness of the Ryche, but I know he was the driving
> force behind their greatest work, Promised Land, so I must say that
> I was still a bit saddened by his departure.
Somehow I highly doubt that Promised Land is their greatest work.
I would have to say it's a toss-up between Mindcrime/The Warning.
The playing style was a little heavier and Tate was still singing
instead of screaming. I do, however, agree that Chris was a major
driving force within the band not to mention one helluva talented
musician.
Jim
PS This is just an OPINION, so any jerky flames will be ignored.
Discussion, however, is most welcome.
-- "We are all books of blood, as soon as we're open we're red" --Clive Barker------------------------------
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:17:57 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Moonspell/Lacuna Coil Message-ID: <01BD2D89.DDF0D7C0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
here are my first reviews for this year. WARNING: die-hard prog fans can turn off now. People with wider ranges in musical taste should read on.
MOONSPELL - Pecado Sin
This is Moonspell's third full-length album, and this should be the one = that establishes them as one of the best bands on the international goth/doom scene. The band have matured a lot since their last album 'Irreligious', = both musically and as individuals, and this maturity shows on this album. = Every- thing about this album just sounds and feels right - Fernando's singing has improved even more, and he can now fall back on a number of vocal styles ranging from clean to gruff to cookie monster, the guitar work is also very clean (Ricardo even sounds like Petrucci on a couple of = tracks) and it doesn't dominate the sound like it did on the last albums. The major = change is in the keyboard department, with extensive use of samplers and programming, which makes the album sound a bit like 'One Second' by Paradise Lost but without being a copy/clone. This album is still very = much Moonspell, it's just that they have thrown off the vampires and = werewolves image. The general overtone of the album is still dark and questioning = (well, what else can you expect from an album that has sin as it's theme?), but some tracks are even almost danceable. My personal favourites are 'Magdalene', 'V.C. (Gloria domini)', 'Handmadegod' and 'Let THe Children Cum To Me' (yes, that is the spelling on the cover). Anal-retentive = Bible bashers may object to some of the lyrics, but then they probably = shouldn't buy this album in the first place. I'm looking forward to hearing these = new=20 songs live. I don't like the single '2econd Skin' so I'm only giving = this album 9.5/10.
LACUNA COIL - Lacuna Coil
This EP is the first release by Moonspell's Century Media stable mates, = and a very good effort it is too. The best description I can think of is = dark/prog/ doom. The 6 tracks show that this band is undoubtedly very talented, but still needs a little more time and experience to really make it. The = overall sound is like The Gathering and Paradise Lost with a good dose of = Elbereth thrown in for good measure. Vocal arrangements are excellent, the work = being shared by Andrea Ferro and the beautiful Cristina Scabbia. My only = real criticism is that there is no really dark and gloomy track on the = album, but that might come with time. I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more of = this band in the near future. 8/10.
Incidentally, both albums were recorded at the Woodhouse Studios and produced/co-produced by Waldemar Sorychta (Sentenced, Tiamat, The Gathering, Alastis, Samael). If Dream Theater used him next time, = perhaps some of you people would lay off Kevin Shirley (just because he produced the first Silverchair album, or what?).
Who are the Denver Broncos and why are there 31 of them?
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) (http://www.rotten.com) Currently playing: The Garden Of Delight - Scheoul
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:41:48 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Conception Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980128234032.006f765c@maila.wm.edu>
Kevin Madden scribbled:
>CD of the Day: Conception - Parallel Minds >CD #2 of the Day: Conception - In Your Multitude
Thank you brother. Also, if any of you have In Your Multitude...I've been searching for it, and in the U.S. no Conception is sold. So, if you have a copy you're willing to trade, sell or dub, PLEASE get in touch with me. Thanks.
Alex
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:36:36 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: X-Mas CDs, clarification, Ryche Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980129112815.3322A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, HseJackBlt wrote:
> Someone offered 2 CDs in exchange for both of the DTIFC X-Mas CDs. Mike Bahr > and Ryan Whitaker offer up to 6 CDs in trade for said items on their Web > pages. Don't want to see any 'Jammers get shortchanged.
I offered... And it's funny, because I thought that I was offering at least the same that Mike Bahr is offering. Let's see... Straight from HIS homepage:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Prism Records CD Silvers Buyback Program (...) If you have one of the CDs listed below as wanted, then you may send it along to me and in trade receive 1. A direct digital transfer of each of your CDs onto CDR, so you really aren't losing anything; 2. Any other CDR replica of your choice from my page for each CD traded in.
(...) CDs Wanted
Legit/Officially Released CDs (i.e. Store-Bought) (must be near-mint at least) Dream Theater Christmas CD '96 Dream Theater Christmas CD '97 Dream Theater Lie European Single (counts as 2 CDs in trade) Dream Theater Live at the Marquee Japan Dream Theater Hollow Years European Single Dream Theater Hollow Years Japan (counts as 2 CDs in trade) Metallica Garage Days Rerevisited (counts as 3 CDs in trade)
(...)
Back to Prism Page / Home Page
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> Jack
So, I'm offering now 3 CD-Rs from my collection for each of the X-CD, if you want to trade. I'm sure this is a more than favorable trade for anyone that has the X-CD.
I'm a collector, not someone interested in profit here in the 'jam. I want the music.
[]s trying to be as fair as possible, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:02:38 -0500 From: Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Iced Earth talk Message-ID: <34D08BFD.D768FE1F@disknet.com>
Hey Jeff,
I assume your keeping up on the jams. Have you noticed the ongoing Iced Earth discussion? Kind of interesting. I have to agree with the dude calling them power-metal instead of prog-metal (from my limitied listening experience). What I found most interesting was them moving to Indiana!! Why would they do that, I wonder? Aren't they from Flordia? I guess IN has a stronger metal scene than FL does!! ttyl,
~Matt
> Recent developments in the Iced Earth camp include the departure of > drummer Brent Smedley and guitarist Randy Shawver. According to the band, > Randy had been growing disillusioned with the whole music thing for some > time, but Brent's departure was a bit of a surprise; he left because he > didn't want to move up to Indiana with the rest of the guys. The band is > searching for replacements. > > The guys are also moving ahead full speed with writing for the next album. > Jon Schaffer has mentioned a possible release date of June or July for the > as-yet-untitled album. Songs include "The Reaping Stone," "Disciples of > the Lie," "Melancholy (Holy Martyr)", and "Watching Over Me," which Jon > wrote about the death of a close friend.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:13:49 PST From: "Cassiano Barbosa" <cassirad@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Message-ID: <19980129141349.8360.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >Responding to the message of Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:13:14 -0800 (PST) >from Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>: > >> And talking about Iron Maiden, what are they doing nowadays? Any >> new album planned? I heard that Michael Kiske will substitute Blaze >> Bailey >> (sp?). Is there any truth to this??? > >They are supposedly almost done with the new album. Blaze is still on >vocals. There is a big tour planned for the summer, a return to the old >days with the huge stage sets. > >-Brian >
Yeah, and the name of the album is "Virtual XI". Don't know the release date, tho.
Cassiano
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:51:57 -0500 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jap FII for sale Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980129095157.00b06100@mailhost.eng.fore.com>
I'll give you $30 for the Jap FII, no questions asked. I had it on order for $30 elsewhere, and it fell through, so I can reallocate the funds to you, if its still available.
Let me know ASAP. KAI
At 10:12 AM 1/28/98 -0800, you wrote: > >I had brought back ten copies of the Jap FII back with me from a recent >trip as a public service. Bandmembers, note increased sales from one of >your most favorite jammers - that cup of coffee this morning is on ME !! > > >I have one copy of the Jap FII left for distribution. (Unopened, with >the bonus CD). This is now a collector's item. I will now be a prick >and conduct an auction with the bids starting at $80. > >Shit, just kidding. I will sell it for US$25, US postpaid. Cash or MO >only. I am not gouging you. When I bought it, the dollar was not as >strong as it currently is. This price should be cheaper than anywhere >else. And, damn, that little 3 inch CD is soooo cute !! Hear how TAMP >is *supposed* to sound. And, hear Speak to Me. > >Let me know how fun it is to be in ACK mode ........ > >Later, >Mark Metzger >mmetzger@comversens.com > >
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