YTSEJAM Digest 3517
Today's Topics:
1) More clarification (NDTC)
by HseJackBlt@aol.com
2) Dead Poet's Society
by Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu>
3) Iron Maiden's new songs :)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
4) Gimme an F! Gimme an A! Gimme a Q!
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
5) Weed and the 7 string
by Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu>
6) Trevor Rabin (NDTC)
by HseJackBlt@aol.com
7) Re: Dead Poet's Society
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
8) Re: How come some things...
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
9) CD For Sale
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
10) Counterparts
by a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org>
11) New Iron Maiden!!
by Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu>
12) boots...?
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
13) Here, Now, Front
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
14) Re: Gimme an F! Gimme an A! Gimme a Q!
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
15) Re: More clarification (NDTC)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:25:35 EST
From: HseJackBlt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: More clarification (NDTC)
Message-ID: <c2a6e026.34d0e5c1@aol.com>
>> Someone offered 2 CDs in exchange for both of the DTIFC X-Mas CDs. >>Mike
Bahr and Ryan Whitaker offer up to 6 CDs in trade for said items on >>their
Web pages. Don't want to see any 'Jammers get shortchanged.
>
> I offered... And it's funny, because I thought that I was offering at least
the >same that Mike Bahr is offering. Let's see...Straight from HIS homepage:
You neglected to mention this, straight from his homepage:
At your option, you may elect to get another boot instead of the clone of the
one you're trading in. For example, if you own a CD writer and you trade in
Animated, you may wish to clone it yourself first so that I will owe you FOUR
CDRs worth of other boots, instead of a clone of Animated and 2 more CDRs.
In addition, straight from Ryan Whitaker's page:
Dream Theater '96 Christmas Fanclub CD - Two Scarred releases (or four boot
reps) for a mint copy of this.
Dream Theater '97 Christmas Fanclub CD - One Scarred release (or two boot
reps) for a mint copy.
-
> So, I'm offering now 3 CD-Rs from my collection for each of the
>X-CD, if you want to trade. I'm sure this is a more than favorable trade
>for anyone that has the X-CD.
Favorable, maybe. But 6CDs > 3CDs and 4CDs > 3CDs
And whoever mentioned Matchbox 20 with KoRn, Tool, and 311: whatever. IMO,
the latter 3 groups have talent. The former will hopefully be a one or two-
hit wonder. The jury's still out on Big Wreck, though, as "The Oaf" is
growing on me.
Jack
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:34:02 -0600
From: Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dead Poet's Society
Message-ID: <199801292032.OAA20140@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Yes, this movie is really good. I don't know exactly why....Robin Williams
is incredable as usual. Check it out...."Carpe Diem!"
Ryan Good
Loud Radio Man
WSUM - Madison Student Radio
608 262 1206
Tuesday 12-1
Wednesday 10-11
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Friday 12-1
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:35:19 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Iron Maiden's new songs :)
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980129133518.006dea50@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 11:59 AM 1/29/98 -0800, Fernando Yokota wrote:
>
>1. FUTUREAL (HARRIS/BAYLEY) 3.00
WTF is that word? Sounds like a kind of disease. Futureal herpes?
>2. THE ANGEL AND THE GAMBLER (HARRIS) 9.51
Metropolis pt 2, the Angel and the gambler.
>3. LIGHTNING STRIKES TWICE (MURRAY/HARRIS) 4.49
...or more than that if you hold up a metal pole in a hurricane.
>4. THE CLANSMAN (HARRIS) 9.06
FINALLY!! A song about the Highlander!!
>5. WHEN TWO WORLDS COLLIDE (MURRAY/BAYLEY/HARRIS) 6.13
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!
>6. THE EDUCATED FOOL (HARRIS) 6.46
...and his seven wives, on the next Springer.
>7. DON=B4T LOOK AT THE EYES OF A STRANGER (HARRIS) 8.11
"People always turn away, from the eyes of a stranger..."
>8. COMO ESTAIS AMIGOS (GERS/BAYLEY) 5.26
Meine schlange ist sehr lange :)
Laterz,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:33:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Under a Glass Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Gimme an F! Gimme an A! Gimme a Q!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980129150403.28661B-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
D-Man, in full voice:
> P.S. Tomorrow is the deadline for submitting your "I want to maintain the
> FAQ" essays.
..and just how many entries have you gotten? Who's *that* much of a
glutton for punishment, eh?
Folks, I think D-Man does deserve a hand for keeping the FAQ in the shape
it's in for so long. The work he's done with it is mostly unappreciated,
so -- thanks, D-Man.
Re: Iced Earth being "power metal" as opposed to "progressive metal" --
perhaps. I'm one of those weirdos who thinks that lots of time shifts and
rhythm just scream "progressive". Then again, "power metal" works just
fine for Iced Earth's stuff.
As for why they moved to Indiana and away from Florida -- yeah, my guess
is because the metal scene in Florida *bites*. (How many metalheads could
you have with the demoralizing influence of the Mouse and of Jimmy Buffett
so nearby? :) :)
Disclaimer: I am a huge Buffett and Disney fan, so don't get any ideas.
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
Currently playing: Rush -- "Power Windows"
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:38:32 -0600
From: Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Weed and the 7 string
Message-ID: <199801292037.OAA56006@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
Hello. just cought part of a discussion about smoking bowl after
bowl....then someone said that the person who smoked has a problem that no
one can help them with. I'm sure if Tim Leary or Tom Petty or someone came
on the jam and talked about puffing, no one would tell them that they had a
problem. Pot is pot and someday we'll be goin' to wallgreens to buy the new
Kamel J's lights in a box with filters and a stoned camel on the front.
Just let it happen...no one's ever od'd on weed. thank you.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:35:08 EST
From: HseJackBlt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trevor Rabin (NDTC)
Message-ID: <262f7290.34d0e7fe@aol.com>
>Who is this Trevor Rabin guy???
Trevor Rabin was the guitarist, and occasional vocalist/producer for Yes from
the albums 90125 to Talk.
Jack
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:49:52 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Dead Poet's Society
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980129183830.7625C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, alex fraser wrote:
> > Yes, the whispered "Carpe Diem" is definitely from the movie, when
> > the "Captain, My Capitain" Robin Williams was showing his students the
> > people who studied in the school. He whispers to them the "carpe diem". I
>
> yeah, but *anyone* could whisper "carpe diem" into a mic in the studio and
> it would be a lot easier than a sample, while sounding pretty much the
> same...
Anyone *could*, but they didn't. Discussiong what-if's here won't
help us very much (please, don't take my comments personally: I just think
that we shouldn't discuss some facts we don't have a clue about).
> > Being at the University far from my discs suck, but I think that
> > there are more than 2 samples from the movie in the song. Maybe 3 (but
> > I'm not trusting my memory anymore)...
>
> Ah man Roger, you made me go consult the FAQ. how could you? :)
:-) That guy named D is probably blessing me now. :-)
> anyway, the only DPS sample noted is the "gather ye rosebuds" poem. the
Which, obviously doesn't mean that there aren't other samples
from the movie. :-)
> line "gather ye rosebuds while ye may" is *sung* late in the song, but
The line "gather ye rosebuds while ye may" is of course sung by
Dream Theater at the end of the song ("He is my only one [Gather ye
rosebuuuuuuds whiiile ye may]", for instance). But I'm *VERY* sure that
the whisper "carpe diem/seize the day" from the middle of the song (about
8:xx on the official ACoS) is from the movie. Or my name isn't Christopher
Reidy Merlo. :-)
Tonight, when I get home I'll post the exact times, if you people
want (but I think that everyone has got their ACoS, anyway :-))) ).
Kidding aside, just rent the movie (good movie, teaches us some
interesting things) and you'll see that this snippet is taken from the
movie. I even told you where in the movie it is from. BTW, that's in the
beginning of the movie.
> that's not a sample. and the "carpe diem" whisper... well, maybe we
> should ask derek. if we can pry him away from his womanizing. :)
You mean, Mike Portnoy? :-)
> szia,
> id
Later, Roger...
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:52:08 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: How come some things... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980129185008.7625D-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 SchnippX@aol.com wrote:
> > HI again, some points and questions: >
> -why is it that in some digest the question and the answer is on display? > Is there a chat place or what.
That's called "people subscribed in ack mode" (or, ACK! mode, as Pellaz once told us :-) ). :-) For an example: me. :-)
> That's the bottom line, because SchnippX said so!
[]s chatting more and more, Roger...
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:58:00 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: "A Logic-Proof Shell" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD For Sale Message-ID: <000301bd2aa5$78ee5e60$19c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that I'm selling a premium quality copy of Awake (bought the day it was released - Oct. 8, 1994) for $108.94, appropriately. Higher offers will not be considered, unless they're really high. Lower offers will not be considered, unless I'm really high. Please e-mail me at dmc@dreamt.org if you're interested. Shipping and handling not included.
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Dan McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:59:10 -0500 (EST) From: a thing with a voice <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Counterparts Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980129155630.219912A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
> See above. Yeah, I'm on record here as thinking that "Signals" is the > biggest transition the band has made. But I also think "Counterparts" is a > bigger break from "Roll The Bones" than "Presto" is from "Hold Your Fire."
Counterparts is a bigger break, but it doesn't begin any directional change. Test for Echo is back to the same stuff. Which makes Counterparts sort of like Tormoto (though of the opposite quality).
-=- "I'm sorry if anyone here is Catholic. I'm not sorry if you're offended, I'm actually sorry just the fact that you're Catholic." -- Bill Hicks
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:03:10 -0600 From: Ryan Good <WSUMmusic@macc.wisc.edu> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Iron Maiden!! Message-ID: <199801292101.PAA77868@mail1.doit.wisc.edu>
I can't wait. I'm going to tell you this right now, any Iron Maiden song over 7 minutes long is going to rule. Thank you.
Ryan Good Loud Radio Man WSUM - Madison Student Radio 608 262 1206 Tuesday 12-1 Wednesday 10-11 Thursday 12-1 Friday 12-1
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:00:00 -0500 From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: boots...? Message-ID: <199801292053.PAA10995@bertelsmanncis.com>
stone cold SchnippX brought up, and then Al asked, if i had the UaGM tracks. (at least i think it was me it was me they were referring to.) just to set things straight, i have nothing of the sort, i don't think i mentioned i did, but if so, sorry, i surely didn't mean to.
outside of the Dance of Eternity, which i never realized, but i guess i'm pretty lucky to have picked up in a record store a few years back, the only unofficial DT stuff i have are a couple of discs, one from the John Myung b-day concert, the other an older one with LaBrie singing OaMoT along with some other older stuff. other than that, i'm not the boot fanatic that lots of people are. i guess if the turnaround for mike bahr's stuff was quicker, i'd probably be, but i'm not up for the hassles, life's too chaotic right now. i'd never keep track. not to paint mike in a bad light, i've never dealt with him, just... i'm not up for the potential for extreme frustration. all of this CDR stuff, i understand it, but the technology is far beyond me. i mean, i can tape stuff for people, which i have no problem ever doing, but that's about it.
and not only that, but geez, the atmosphere can be pretty hostile. the christmas cd sounds great, but after graham (surprise) chewed up the poor guy who asked to have it dubbed, again, the hassle is pretty extreme. for what it's worth, i would love that, the studio version of eve, you or me (or any of the fii demo stuff, for that matter)... but i have nothing interesting to trade. i mean, i can send tapes, pay for postage, offer my cds, that's about it.
not that i have any interest in selling it, because just about any trade of music for money is a bad thing for me, but what is the going rate of tDoE these days? just curious....
--MATt
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:11:49 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Here, Now, Front Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980129161149.0071d458@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>>We will have yet to see if "Hear in the Now Frontier" will belong in the >>list. It could be the last album QR does, instead. >I LIKED the album, which does separate me out a bit here=20
Nah, not really. A lot of people liked it, myself included. But, since whining seems to be the key form of expression on the Ytsejam, you just don't hear a lot from the chirpy "us" since we are please-ed. That is, until we too are given reason to whine...
Like when I think about how I don't have a "Lie" single.
Or that I can't go see B=E9la Fleck and the Flecktones because the show *sol= d out* several weeks in advance.
Even remembering back to the QR concert I went to with the profusely-sweating whirling dervish standing (when not flailing limbs) next to me last summer could cause an outburst of some sort.
I'm sure I could think up more. But as moderation's is my middle name, I'll quit while the quittin's good.
Brian "Moderation" Henderson
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:16:35 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Gimme an F! Gimme an A! Gimme a Q! Message-ID: <199801292116.QAA16309@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Folks, I think D-Man does deserve a hand for keeping the FAQ in the shape > it's in for so long. The work he's done with it is mostly unappreciated, > so -- thanks, D-Man. >
He definitely has done a great job....kudos, D....
And to celebrate this occasion, I will offer him my copy of the "Lie" single, with his beloved "To Live Forever" at 50% discount.....only $150 sans shipping.....
-Al
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:17:33 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: More clarification (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980129190130.7625F-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 HseJackBlt@aol.com wrote:
> You neglected to mention this, straight from his homepage: > > At your option, you may elect to get another boot instead of the clone of the > one you're trading in. For example, if you own a CD writer and you trade in > Animated, you may wish to clone it yourself first so that I will owe you FOUR > CDRs worth of other boots, instead of a clone of Animated and 2 more CDRs.
Aha! You should read the homepage with more attention, my friend!! I didn't neglected to mention anything. I'm a fair person (and I won't cite names here, but many people here in this list may attest that I'm not a ripper of something related).
Animated is a double CD, and then Mike Bahr is still offering a 2 CD-Rs for each CD.
> In addition, straight from Ryan Whitaker's page: > > Dream Theater '96 Christmas Fanclub CD - Two Scarred releases (or four boot > reps) for a mint copy of this. > Dream Theater '97 Christmas Fanclub CD - One Scarred release (or two boot > reps) for a mint copy.
I offered as much as I could. And Ryan is also offering two releases for the XCD. BTW, if you have any doubts about my creditability, just ask Ryan. I have traded with him.
My purpose is only to collect some items. I'm not here to rip anyone off. I'm a fan myself and I offer what I can back up. Medias here in Brazil cost more than in the US, BTW. So, making a 2CD trade costs me more than it would cost for a person in the US. Again, I offer only what I can back up, to make sure that it is FAIR.
> Jack
Cya, Roger...
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