YTSEJAM Digest 3520
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Will Chaos theory send me it?
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
2) Re: How come some things...
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
3) Re: I'm such a freak
by "Brian Haydend" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) To Ptacek...
by "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net>
5) A Change of Seasons & Dead Poets' Society
by rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
6) Re: To Ptacek...
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
7) Re: A Change of Seasons & Dead Poets' Society
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) Re: To Ptacek...
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
9) Dr. Galeekawitz
by someone@prognosis.com
10) Re: To Ptacek...
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Interview with John Myung
by "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com>
12) Re: To Ptacek...
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
13) CD liners: no respect
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
14) Various things
by Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:26:50 -0500
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Will Chaos theory send me it?
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980129212650.006b3f04@mail.ee.net>
At 04:37 PM 1/29/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>On the Eve of Destruction, Donna H Clavelli said:
>>
>>I saw on a webpage that Chaos Theory will send me a cd for 6 bucks,
>>but I don't know if they'll actually give it to me. Does anyone know if
>>they will give it to me and if it's worth it? The King's X
>
>Are you sure it's the same Chaos Theory we've been talking about? Cause
>Chaos Theory (the one Matt Guillory is in) does not have a CD. They have
>some demos.
>
>
>
>-The Doc
>
Matt informed his buds over at the Perpetual Motion site
http://www.wco.com/~mindcage/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
that another band has registered the name Chaos Theory and his band
is looking for a new name. I have no idea what the new Chaos Theory
sounds like.
Joe - mailto:jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:36:36 -0500
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: How come some things...
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980129213636.006ad5d4@mail.ee.net>
At 12:09 PM 1/29/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>HI again, some points and questions:
>
>-why is it that in some digest the question and the answer is on display?
> Is there a chat place or what.
>
Read your welcome message if you still have it. You can go into "ack" mode
in order to get the messages individually and not in a digest. This allows
people who are in ack mode to respond to a message before the digest is
generated.
>- again I have to complain about begavior. When Bruce (Forst) wrote his
>opinion, and he made it real clear that it was his, you can read that or not.
>You needn't even like it. But as far as THE DOC-whatsoever is concerned: man
>you really suck. you got the nerves to write such a comment? man I really had
>to take a breath because it's like a 4-year-old child playing I shot you, you
>gotta fall down:
>Go play with your toys and come back when you grown up
>
Dr. Mosh was joking.
>- the guitar solo of BACK to the FUTURE is done by Tim May not Eddie
>
Brian May ?
>- anyone who knows what Vito Bratta and Jake E. Lee are up to currently?
Flipping burgers and tossing pizzas?
>- MATt you have that UAGM 2/3 tracks? I'd like to have them! Is one of them
>this jazzy tune I heard at the end of the German shows
>
MATt was joking also. Please learn to not take everything you read on
here so seriously.
Welcome anyway. Ditch the AOL and the dorking signature if you want to
be really respected. Learn stupid American humor.
Joe - mailto:jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 98 21:25:12 -0600
From: "Brian Haydend" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: SchnippX@AOL.COM, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: I'm such a freak
Message-ID: <34d148183498002@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
]From my rip at SchnippX:
"The entire message, but especially the grammar-impaired rip at Dr. Mosh,
is perfectly timed considering the Doc's cracks at AOL'rs the other day."
Now that I know he's German, I'll take my foot out of my mouth and
apologize for making fun of his grammar. I can't speak a word of German, so
I should shut up...
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:22:28 -0600
From: "Aaron High" <High2day@prodigy.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: To Ptacek...
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Hey Ptacek,=20
How about cuttin' heads, cyber-style?
Make a short (30-60 sec.) Mp3 of some solo
stuff. Make it available to anyone interested,
and I'll do the same. Consider yourself challenged.
AAh
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:17:33 -0500
From: rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A Change of Seasons & Dead Poets' Society
Message-ID: <tJW00MlyZ8sP092yn@ime.usp.br>
Well, now that I'm home and just listened to ACoS, I'll put
here the time of the samples taken from the movie "Dead
Poets' Society".
* 7:07 - "Carpe Diem, Seize the day"
* 8:12 - "Gather ye rosebuds while ye may (...)"
* 9:48 - a lot of samples start here, but they are hard for
me to take note of them, especially because I don't
speak English and have problems understanding spoken
words. But at 10:01, there's something like
"something happened (...)", which I don't remember
from the movie, but which I guess that is from one
of the tragic accidents there (I won't say exactly
what it is to avoid spoiling the fun of those who
haven't seen it).
Well, that's it.
See ya, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: To Ptacek... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980129225312.12995A-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Aaron High wrote:
> Hey Ptacek, > How about cuttin' heads, cyber-style? > Make a short (30-60 sec.) Mp3 of some solo > stuff. Make it available to anyone interested, > and I'll do the same. Consider yourself challenged.
I cannot begin to describe how much amusement you people on this list provide for me. But my question is: When did Chris boast about his guitar chops? Or did I miss that post? All I remember was Bafu praising Chris' 8-finger frenzy. Anyone up for a peeing contest? Hah.
Rick Audet
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:13:19 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: A Change of Seasons & Dead Poets' Society Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980129201107.21393A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> > > Well, now that I'm home and just listened to ACoS, I'll put > here the time of the samples taken from the movie "Dead > Poets' Society".
> * 9:48 - a lot of samples start here, but they are hard for > me to take note of them, especially because I don't > speak English and have problems understanding spoken > words. But at 10:01, there's something like > "something happened (...)", which I don't remember > from the movie, but which I guess that is from one > of the tragic accidents there (I won't say exactly > what it is to avoid spoiling the fun of those who > haven't seen it).
<SPOILER SPACE>
"It's the most terrible thing you'll ever hear. Our friend, whom we dearly love, has decided to take his life..."
It's from the movie. Towards the end. Actually, minutes before the end. The quote may not be exactly right. I don't have ACOS w/ me...
> > Well, that's it. > > > See ya, Roger... > >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito > Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" > Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html > "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" > James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:14:45 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: To Ptacek... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980129201353.21393B-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Rick Audet wrote:
> > >Aaron High wrote:
<something that got snipped>
>I cannot begin to describe how much amusement you people on this list >provide for me. But my question is: When did Chris boast about his guitar >chops? Or did I miss that post? All I remember was Bafu praising Chris' >8-finger frenzy. Anyone up for a peeing contest? Hah.
My dad can beat up your dad. So there!
^_^
(reminds me of a band we have here in Oregon -- the 5 Fingers of Funk...)
> >Rick Audet > >
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:41:09 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dr. Galeekawitz Message-ID: <199801300433.UAA27558@odin.ax.com>
> It's a real "solo" album: Michael Romeo is playing every instrument (guitar, > bass, keyboard and drum programming), and a song is played by a member of > Symphony X (I can't remember if is the K or D)
Lineup for the album: Guitars: Romeo. Bass: not even worth mentioning. Drum programming: Romeo. Key programming: Romeo. Guest appearance on the Paganini piece: Mike Pinella, of Symphony X. The album is good solid shred, but the drum machine and the semi cheesy bass (IMO. Hear that? I M O) hurt the overall quality of tha disc. Line that up with the fact that I got it for $30 when it came out, and you have the basis for me not calling it a great MR performance. The guitars shine, but it is not an immortal awesome disc.
> From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> > Alright, but I still think there are people who want the whole package. Not > maybe to the point that they'd throw out the CD if they lost the case, but....
And I kind of questioned why someone would care that much about a Mike Bahr package... I think even he might question that, when we're talking this enormous difference in cash. But as I say, this could be exactly what the collectors who want Petrucci's underwear need :) > Ummm...that's *exactly* how most of those posts were coming across. I > didn't see a single one that said "Hey, I can make you a copy/know where > you can get a copy cheaper", it was "Don't let that suckbird rip you off" > or "Anyone who pays that much for that is an idiot" or some other such > sentiment (or at least, that's how they came across).
Fair enough. I apologize if I seemed harsh. Going back and re-reading my post, you're right. I was at least a bit "disparaging".. but i didn't mean any harm. I will still point and snicker when a Subconscious, or a Home Sweet Home or whatever sells for $75-100.
> ..And thanks for taking that out of context. The part you quoted was > simply a lead in for the joke about the blank pages. That's interesting > coming from someone who frequently complains about being misquoted/taken > out of context.
I misread the "joke." I didn't recognize the humor, so I didn't think that was a necessary part of the post to quote. Again, I apologize.
> From: CRAIG GRIFFITH <derfelt@usa.net>
> Is there anyone on this list that learned to play guitar on a 7-string? > If there is, he or she must have quite a bit of money to throw around, > because, as I understand it, they cost a minimum of $400. I mean, > seriously, who's going to pay that for something they don't know how to play?
My first actual guitar was $475. If you can find a UV for $400, or any other 7 string for that price, e-mail me at someone@prognosis.com Typically, you're not going to find a used 7 string for under $750, if you're LUCKY as HELL. :)
> in the neck. Now it's all warped and the action's horrible) I > wonder what someone who started on a 7-string guitar's style would > sound like...
Again, to chime in as a 7 string owner, I wish you lived near Chicago, so you could come over and try a 7 string our for yourself. It's really not vastly different at all. > Also, since there's been a bit of controversy over Chris Ptacek's > actual guitar skills, I have a proposition to make. Chris, if you'll > find it in your heart, make us Jammers an MP3 of you playing
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Oh man, that's scary. Well, first off, there's no real controversy. I'm not as good as Bafu said, and no one has really put down my playing on the digest... so there's really no controversy at all. I have a few samples, but IMO they suck hard. The only one I have of my band is on my page, but it was a scratch demo from about a year ago, and it's recorded into .wav from a REALLY bad source tape... I am not proud of the song, the tone, or my solo (though I like my buddy's solo on the track). Anyways, mail me privately, and I'll get you that shitty sample, or let you know when I have something current and acceptable. Let's keep MY music off the jam, for now at the very least. :)
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:35:12 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: To Ptacek... Message-ID: <199801300435.UAA07142@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Rick Audet said: > >provide for me. But my question is: When did Chris boast about his guitar >chops? Or did I miss that post? All I remember was Bafu praising Chris' >8-finger frenzy. Anyone up for a peeing contest? Hah.
Do you mean a distance one, or accuracy one? Or perhaps a triathlon of the previous and the extra color contest?
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:52:01 -0500 From: "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" <heavymetal.guide@miningco.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Interview with John Myung Message-ID: <004f01bd2d3a$ce39f5e0$35c229cf@default>
I just posted part one of the interview with John Myung at the site. He covers the changes on Keys, along with a number of other things.
Hope you enjoy!
Matt Heavy Metal at The Mining Company http://heavymetal.miningco.com heavymetal.guide@miningco.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:54:44 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: To Ptacek... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980129235303.15190B-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Dr. Mosh wrote:
> On the Eve of Destruction, Rick Audet said: > > > >provide for me. But my question is: When did Chris boast about his guitar > >chops? Or did I miss that post? All I remember was Bafu praising Chris' > >8-finger frenzy. Anyone up for a peeing contest? Hah. > > Do you mean a distance one, or accuracy one? Or perhaps a triathlon of > the previous and the extra color contest?
Let's make it a triathalon, punk ! I'll whoop your ass ! Consider yourself challenged !
-Rick Audet
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:06:52 -0400 From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu> To: Delirium Tremens <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD liners: no respect Message-ID: <l03130304b0f70081e12e@bootp-231-167.bootp.virginia.edu>
someone said:
> What I HAVE been considering doing, is joining into the passionate > forum of $90 cd insert collecting.
You know, it's kind of chafing to hear all this stuff bashing bootleg CD inserts, especially when I'm the one who designed some of them.
I knew I was underappreciated, but I never thought I'd be considered worthless...! *sob*
Anyone who wants to see large scans of my original artwork for the covers (and disk art) for Antiquities, Scenes From a Memory, Critical Mass, and Precious Things, you can find them here:
http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~sdh9b/dt
They make great Windows/Mac desktop bitmaps, baby.
And as far as I know, it's basically the only DT-related artwork out there that wasn't rendered in cad or something. That count for anything?
S.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bernardo Pulgar <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Various things Message-ID: <19980130050914.15357.rocketmail@web2.rocketmail.com>
Hi. Eric wrote: >I'm very curious about Empty Tremor's Apoco-loco-telekinesis-ish debut >album. Can someone give me an "album review"? >You can reply privately if you wish--I'm not going to flame you for >giving me your honest opinion, but others might. >Eric Heisserer
Please, don't reply to this message or others like this privately. I am in this list mostly for questions and answers like this one, so when someone posts a message like this, I too want to read the replies!!! Thanx. About this thread: >Mark Slaughter Vocals Slaughter This guy used to sing with ex-KISS Vinnie Vincent or Vincent Cusano (whichever his real name is) in his band, The Vinnie Vincent Invasion, before he formed his own band.
Trevor W. Hoit wrote: >Someone mentioned they were listening to Chris Poland's Metalopolis. >IMO, this is a pretty good cd. FYI, he played guitar in Damn the >Machine. I posted that. Chris is simply spectacular. I first heard him play in Megadeth's Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?, and I have to say that his playing is incredible. Damned the Machine is amazing. What's happened to them now? Anybody knows?
About Iron Maiden, I heard that they're recording their new album, which is said to be more powerful than their previous one. That's all I know. On Chris DeGarmo, well... QR was one of my favourite bands, until Promised Land, when IMHO they just sucked royally. His departure means nothing now, 'cause to me, they're going down and further down. Perhaps I'm being unfare to them, because I have never even heard "Hear in the Now Frontier", such was my disappointment. As for Nuno Bettencourt being his replacement, well, I think his compositions can be categorized as 'kitsch', thus his contributions to QR would make the band look pretty ridiculous. 'Operation: Mindcrime' could never be placed together with 'III Sides to Every Story'.
Now, some DTC: I keep finding people who just loathe YNM and HY 'cause they're commercial, but don't they realize that DT have had that sort of songs in previous albums? In the case of YNM, enters Desmon Child. He is a kind of a jinx, I agree: his hand has touched the music of bis names like KISS, Aerosmith, RATT... you name them! I know that he recorded a solo album which is simply rubbish. He's been there to 'help' make a song more appealing to the masses-that's his role. It's not his fault. Someone in the DT camp must have called him, brought him to this project. He just did his job. The blame lies on the person who suggested him (anyway). YNM doesn't molest me. Instead, it is BMS (which reminds me of this incredibly stupid band: White Zombie) that's driving me away from FII (clearly DT's most pityfully insignificant album ever!). The drums sound like empty tin cans, you can't almost hear the keyboards, and BMS is a song that must have taken them 2 minutes to write (big effort guys-I know that it's your record and you do what you want, but for that song, you really thought with the 'other' head) - Now the flames.....
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