YTSEJAM Digest 4031
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Perversions
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
2) Raised On Radio bad? I don't think so (NDTC)
by JE78674@ltu.edu
3) re: Journey, Neil Schon
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
4) Journey Live
by "Longshot" <longshot@pressroom.com>
5) ayup, Bafu's on the ball.
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4030
by "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
7) Houston Ytsenight 3
by "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
8) FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
9) AHEM!
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
10) Re: Check out Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
11) Re: Concept albums
by "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
12) Music Street Journal 6
by Yes0001@aol.com
13) DT in the charts
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
14) Music older than me
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
15) ELP Tribute
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
16) Vital Tech Tones
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
17) bootlegged video
by "M. Dixon" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
18) Re: Vital Tech Tones
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
19) Re: bootlegged video
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Perversions
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980701092951.6689A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Rogerio Brito wrote:
>
> You forgot to mention the George Farber (?) posts with "FUUUUCKK"
>or "DIIIIIIIIE". :-)
Yeah, but he didn't really unsubscribe -- a Ytsejam posse hunted him down
and atomized him -- his account's still good, tho ^_^
--Matt (mmmm....sacrilicious)
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write songs about the discovery of tungsten, yeah, we made that up."
--Brian Henderson
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: JE78674@ltu.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Raised On Radio bad? I don't think so (NDTC)
Message-ID: <01IYVX3QG48I8WVZBA@LTU.EDU>
I have to strongly disagree with the comment made the ROR is a bad
album. It still is one of my favorite albums overall as well as of
Journey's. Right next to Frontiers of course.
Later,
Jeff E.
Now Playing: Chroma Key - DAFR
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:37:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Journey, Neil Schon
Message-ID: <19980701163736.4305.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>
"Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> wrote:
> One thing that wasn't publicized as
> much is that Steve Smith has also left the band.
I'm surprised that they'd still use the Journey name without Perry or
Greg Rollie singing (and Smith gone now too). I guess they're looking
for the sales boast it will give them.
Neil Schon has played with so many combinations of people under
different names, I'm surprised he would all of a sudden decide to cash
in on the "Journey" name. Maybe they should get Jonathan Waite to sing
and call it Bad English...
Abraxas Pool was mentioned in the jam, I have it on my "to get" list,
any more input on that one?
On the subject of Neil Schon, his solo album called "Beyond the
Thunder" is very good. (It really is a collaboration with Jonathan
Cain). Mellow, adult new age/jazz style instrumental album, with lots
of Schon's catchy leads.
Schon's other recent solo disc is "Electric World". He had so much
music for it, it is actually 2 discs at the one disc price. This is
more "world" style music, with lots of percussion (ala Santana). It's
similar to Liquid Tension Experiment, in that it was put together
almost as jam sessions with all of these various musicians (although
it is definately "studio refined"). Some of it is like Peter
Gabriel's Passion disc, with more percussion, and Neil playing tasty
riffs over the top.
This is definately more Jazz (instrumental) than anything else. Works
well as relaxation, mood, or background music. ("Beyond the Thunder"
contains more catchy riffs than "Electric World") And as usual, Neil
can't help himself, and cuts loose quite often, although it's a little
lower in the mix.
my $.02, BH
NP - Neil Schon/Electric World (I actually had this in the player
before the whole Journey topic came up).
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:00 +0000
From: "Longshot" <longshot@pressroom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Journey Live
Message-ID: <199807011714.KAA05258@odin.ax.com>
>Speaking of Journey, has anyone else picked up a copy of Journeys
>Greatest Hits-Live. The CD was taped over 3 concerts in 1982 and
>1983. It covers all of their hits up to "Raised on Radio" (which in
>my opinion wasn't that good). The live CD is great! Some of you may
>not like Journey, but if you do, check out this CD.
Actually, that is wrong. ROR wasn't released until 86. Looking at
the CD, I think it is everything up to Escape, Which is a damn good
album.
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Jason Birzer There is a theory which states that if anyone
"The Longshot" discovers what the Universe is for and why it
is here, it will instantly disappear and be
Longshot@Pressroom.com replaced by something even more bizarre and
inexplicable. There is another theory which
states that this has already happened -Douglas Adams
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:20:33 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ayup, Bafu's on the ball.
Message-ID: <199807011723.KAA18382@cats.ucsc.edu>
Thus Spake Bafuthustra:
> have evidence now that proves that the symbol
>is a public graphic design and nothing more.
Tis true. On my computer, within the most holy of fonts thus named
"Monotype Sorts" as the most prestigious character "Alt+0166" is this most
holy of symbols, the leafy pepper, found.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:33:18 -0400
From: "Andrew Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4030
Message-ID: <19980701172851.HHQE10210@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
Matt wrote:
>their live albums (all 2CD) pretty much represent them best:
>
>Dave Matthews Band: Live at Red Rocks
I don't understand why anyone would think this, no offense. If you want DMB
at their best, get Remember Two Things. It has far superior live tracks
(RECENTLY!!!), as well as two of the best tracks Dave has written, IMHO:
Minarets and Seek Up. The problem with the Red Rocks discs is that none of
the traditional Dave "live-only" tracks are there: Angel From Montgomery,
Granny, Inspiration, etc. I think the band just released this to quell the
boot market.
>I hope that the covers make it, too.
Actually, I meant To Live Forever, Speak To Me, Cover My Eyes, The Way It
Used To Be, etc. when I said "non-album". Those cover tunes aren't
something I liked as the originals, so I couldn't care if they make it on
to the album. Then again, I was never a "Love Lies Bleeding" fan until DT
did it. It's nice to see the band acknowledging this "non-album" material
as important to their fans, because we all know the influence those TLF
harmonies have had on D-Man...
>Jimmy Buffett's show at Lakewood in Atlanta last night rocked,
In my best Sean Connery impression: You must be joking.<g>
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:54:27 -0500
From: "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>, "Kyle" <megadave25@aol.com>,
Subject: Houston Ytsenight 3
Message-ID: <01bda519$4a5fce00$02ef5ed1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
The new date for the next Houston Ytsenight will be August 3rd.
The place will most likely be the Hard Rock Cafe. Anyone interested is
welcome to attend for an evening of good music & good food (last time I was
there anyway). Email me if you are planning to come. As the date gets closer
we can decide on a good time - hope to see you there!
- Mark
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:58:59 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980701135859.007a3a90@mail.erinet.com>
I need some extra money, and I'm sure some DT fans out there might like
this gem. It'll go to the highest offer by (next Friday) July 10th. It is
the very first Prism Records Dream Theater bootleg, and it is hand numbered
#348. This is back when Kevin Moore was in the band.
Tracks:
1. Eve (w/ KevMo samples)
2. A Change ofSeasons (older version of it)
3. O Holy Night (w/ Dominici)
4. Carry that Weight/Golden Slumbers (Beatles cover)
5. Don't Look Past Me
6. Wanted: Dead or Alive (Petrucci w/ Kev & friend on "vocals")
7. To Live Forever (acoustic)
8. The Gorilla Session (instrumental)
9. Mission:Impossible Theme
10. The Back Pain Jam (improv jam)
11. The Awake Heavy Jam (improv jam)
12. Experimental (Myung improv instrumental on guitar)
13. Tears (Rush cover)
14. Winter (Tori Amos cover)
send all offers to: dantemm@erinet.com
Dan
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:08:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AHEM!
Message-ID: <19987114649441@ix.netcom.com>
<<. If anyone under the age of 30 likes it, it is not prog rock.>>
um, I'm 15 right here....and let me tell you it is FUCKING ANNOYING
to try and talk about music to other kids my age.
Matt
"He phoned to wash his head for us."
-Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:34:52 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Check out Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon
Message-ID: <01BDA52D.288BBDC0@36.154.dialin.mxs.nl>
Mike Portnoy wrote :
> Please spread the word and congratulations and welcome aboard
> to Mark "Itchy" Bredius.
Thanks, Mike :)
At this point, I'd like to thank Chris "Madsman" Ptacek for
hosting UACM on his Prognosis domain for the last couple of
years (I'm gonna miss that URL). I would also like to thank
John "sp00l" Martin, for his help with setting things up on
the new location. You guys are the best. :)
Ok, here's where I ask you guys for a favour... If you have
a link to RSABBS and/or UACM on your homepage please update
it with the following information :
http://www.dreamtheater.net/
Under A Cyber Moon
The Official Dream Theater Website
(or something like that)
I would also appreciate it, if you could notify other sites
about the change if you come across a link to RSABBS and/or
UACM... You'll save me a lot of work...
As usual, any suggestions for UACM are more than welcome...
There's still some stuff I have to work out first, so allow
me a few days to get my act together. :)
Mark Bredius
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 11:27:13 PDT
From: "Ernesto Lotitto" <ernestlot@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: 95fa467@dvc.edu
Subject: Re: Concept albums
Message-ID: <19980701182713.14910.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
>Subject: DT concept Album
If you really like concept albums, you should (must) get Extreme's III
Sides to Every Story. It goes from hard rock to classical music with
excellent arrangemets and a very cool message. But I rather let you get
to your own conclusions. Just get it, you won't regret it...
Ernesto
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:29:17 EDT
From: Yes0001@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music Street Journal 6
Message-ID: <2908f18.359a7fff@aol.com>
Music Street Journal Issue 6 is online now. It features interviews with Alan
White of Yes and Dave Brock of Hawkwind. Reviews new for this month, Alaska-
Alaska, Asia-Archiva 1, Steve Hackett-Watcher of the Skies, ELP-King Biscuit,
Tori Amos-From the Choirgirl Hotel, Camper Van Beethoven-Key Lime Pie,
Queensryche-Rage For Order and Page and Plant-Walking into Clarksdale. Be
sure and check out the new format as well. The page has been revamped to look
better and be easier to use. Growing pains are still being experienced,
however. The archive pages, in particular, may still have some glitches for
the next few days, but the New items should be pretty well problem free right
now.
Thanks
Gary
Music Street Journal http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT in the charts
Message-ID: <19980701191108.11721.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
I just found out from a friend back home that Hollow Years is #4 in
the panamanian charts. Maybe the guys should start paying a little
more attention to South America.:)
Ernesto
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:23:42 -0800
From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music older than me
Message-ID: <199807011940.MAA29992@baygate.bayarea.net>
> I usually make it a point not
> to buy music older than me with a few exceptions.
I'm not telling you what music to buy. But unless you're hundreds of
years old, this rule will prevent you from enjoying a world of
outstanding music. I shudder when I think of all the great music I
would never get to hear if I were limited by this rule. (John
Coltrane, Miles Davis, Louis Jordan, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, Etta
James, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Mahler, the Beatles -- just to name a
VERY few).
Just my two cents; buy whatever you want...
-YL
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 22:41:44 +0300
From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ELP Tribute
Message-ID: <359A90F8.8B403C5E@netvision.net.il>
Hi there!
A few days ago I got a mail from Jordan Rudess saying his doing Karn
Evil 9 1st impression on the Magna Carta ELP tribute.
Now, the ELP tribute isn't listed anywhere on the MG web site, so does
anyone know what's the status of this project (an idea, pre-recorded,
etc.)
Oh, and Congrets, Itchy...
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 22:01:59 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Vital Tech Tones Message-ID: <359B1447.B92@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Can someone tell me where I can get samples of Vital Tech Tones ?
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:26:10 PDT From: "M. Dixon" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: bootlegged video Message-ID: <19980701202611.2699.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey Jammers, Need some help! I have a bootleg video that was shot on the AWAKE tour in Tokyo, Japan on January 24, 1995. I believe it was from WOWOW! pay-per-view show. The actual video and sound quality are very good! The track listing is this: 1.PMU 2.6:00 3.TTT 4.Caught in a Web 5.LSOAD 6.Mirror/Lie 7.Another Day 8.Eroto/Voices/Silent Man 9.Metropolis Pt.1 (encore) ??It also at one point has a moment of silence for the deaths in the Kobe earthquake. My question is simply this: Was there a CD bootleg of this concert and WHICH bootleg is it???
Thank you all for help, POJ =)
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Vital Tech Tones Message-ID: <199807012044.QAA60962@node8.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Arash Ashouriha: > > Hi > > Can someone tell me where I can get samples of Vital Tech Tones ?
yes. there is one on the Shrapnel Records web site at www.shrapnelrecords.com under New Releases.
i ordered a copy last week and i'm dying to hear it, but i bet the holiday weekend will delay its arrival [dammit].
NP: last night's practice tape.
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:55:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: bootlegged video Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980701164942.25425A-100000@mariner.cris.com>
On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, M. Dixon wrote:
> My question is simply this: Was there a CD bootleg of this concert and > WHICH bootleg is it???
"Mindcontrol" is a CD bootleg of this show, as well as "Wake Up!" There are a few others which are from this show but are incomplete (i.e., single CD versions). "Mindcontrol" is available from KTS, www.kissthestone.com
Rick Audet San Francisco
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