YTSEJAM Digest 4040
Today's Topics:
1) Re: LitS (Contains tab)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
2) Re: Saviour Machine
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
3) Recommendations
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
4) Maidentour
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
5) Maidentour
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
6) Re: Maidentour
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
7) Re: Lines in the Sand Tab ?
by Calvin6S@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4034
by 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
9) CD Rippers with Win98
by AL <al@isd.net>
10) Re: LitS (Contains tab)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) The Next Floyd for you
by ytsejam@iname.com
12) Re: LitS (Contains tab)
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
13) Re: Pink Floyd
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
14) Powermad Gathering
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
15) Opeth/Monster Magnet/Sentenced/Alastis etc.
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
16) bootlegs
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
17) DTmailing list
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 03:22:40 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: LitS (Contains tab)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980706032046.4096A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998 someone@enteract.com wrote:
[Comments about Lines in the Sand being played on 7 string]
In layman terms, how do you recognize a passage being played in a
7 string guitar? Could you help, shedding some light? I'm sure that I'm
not the only ignorant here. :-)
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:25:20 -0500 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Saviour Machine Message-ID: <199807060625.XAA20539@odin.ax.com>
I just got back from the Cornersotne Fest today. I must say that Saviour Machine was flat amazing. Beautiful and intense. Thankfully not plagued by the sound problems they had during last year's daytime performance. Galactic Cowboys also put on a killer set. Played some new tunes that are on an upcoming album (due in September, I believe). Great energetic set. I talked a bit with Ben (vocals for thsoe who don't know) and he noticed my FII shirt and said "Hey, it's the buds" and said some stuff about Platypus. I'll try to get more details about the sets later, but both were damn good. Also, for anyone who might be interested, Saviour Machine will be playing Chicago on, get this, Halloween Night this year. I'll have to find the flier for details, but believe me, I will be there.
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"I'm hip about time."
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 03:11:58 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Recommendations Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980706031158.007dce78@pop.wam.umd.edu>
What's a good starter album for Van Der Graaf Generator?
Are Living Colour's non-'Vivid' albums worth getting? I would assume so, but...
And now a recommendation for you folk. Go out and rent a movie called "The City of Lost Children". Friggin' awesome.
Brian "Tiny Timid" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 03:21:22 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Maidentour Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980706032122.0068d8e4@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Anyone have any idea when and if Iron Maiden'll be playing east coast (US) tourdates, specifically in the PA/NJ region? The official webpage hasn't been updated in a month, a plague of laziness that seems to afflict all non-Itchy official-page maintainers.
Brian "Seventh Son of Several Nuns" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 03:20:50 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Maidentour Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980706032050.007e63f0@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Anyone have any idea when and if Iron Maiden'll be playing east coast (US) tourdates, specifically in the PA/NJ region? The official webpage hasn't been updated in a month, a plague of laziness that seems to afflict all non-Itchy official-page maintainers.
Brian "Seventh Son of Several Nuns" Henderson
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 03:01:40 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Maidentour Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980706030140.008461a0@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
irom maiden is playing monterrey, mexico in augoust in case anyone cares... for more info or if you want help getting tivkets email me privately...
At 12:54 AM 6/07/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Anyone have any idea when and if Iron Maiden'll be playing east coast (US) >tourdates, specifically in the PA/NJ region? The official webpage hasn't >been updated in a month, a plague of laziness that seems to afflict all >non-Itchy official-page maintainers. > >Brian "Seventh Son of Several Nuns" Henderson > >=================================== >Name: > W. Brian Henderson, Esq. >Contact: > hender@wam.umd.edu >ROBOT-CENTRAL: > http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ >His Faithful Bootleg Page: > http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ >=================================== > > --- MP3 of the week - "Staying Alive" the Bee Gees cover with Ozzy on vocals, Dweezil on Guitars, guest solos by Nuno, Steve Lukather and Zakk Wylde: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/
Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:27:01 EDT From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lines in the Sand Tab ? Message-ID: <64b2d8a4.35a09867@aol.com>
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> E----x----x-------------------------------- > B----3----3-------------------------------- > G----2----2-----0--3----------------------- > D----0----0-----------3--0----------------- > A----0----0-----------------5--0----------- > E----x----x--------------------------------
okay - I agree with the hammer on pull off feel - but I KNOW the ( 0 -- 3) on the G string is wrong. It is absolutely (0----5).
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 16:32:56 +0000 From: 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4034 Message-ID: <359f78d0.or304@or304.mc.gov.au>
> Hey, Neil: I need to change my address for the DTIFC. How do I do that?
Perhaps a step in the right direction would be to email Neil ? Neil's email address has been on page 2 of the fanzine for the past 2 years or so..... ]From memory it is: images_and_words@compuserve.com
graham PS Can someone please email me privately on how to get the jam in ack/bounce mode, thanks
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 06:23:04 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD Rippers with Win98 Message-ID: <35A0B398.1DF0A16F@isd.net>
Help! I am running a clean install of Windows 98. Every CD ripper I've tried bitches about "No ASPI manager running/installed." What can I do to remedy this without butchering the system device drivers?
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 07:39:43 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: LitS (Contains tab) Message-ID: <35A0C58F.E757D5E0@caribe.net>
Rogerio Brito wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jul 1998 someone@enteract.com wrote: > > [Comments about Lines in the Sand being played on 7 string] > > In layman terms, how do you recognize a passage being played in a > 7 string guitar? Could you help, shedding some light? I'm sure that I'm > not the only ignorant here. :-) > > []s, Roger... >
Ok, even thou im pretty much theory impaired, i think its when you notice they play notes lower than the E in 6 string guitars, or in some cases D when they drop d-tune it , although ive never heard of jp using drop D or other detuning methods. Other than that.. he can be doing the type of chord hes doing when doing puppies on acid on the LiT video. ( he shows the "trick" on his instructional video )
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ytsejam@iname.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Next Floyd for you Message-ID: <199807061340.JAA24299@web02.globecomm.net>
:Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 20:17:02 -0500 (EST) :From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> :"Subject: Pink Floyd question
:Hey folks!
:I'm curious as to which Pink Floyd album to buy next. I :have "DSOTM", :"wish you were here" and "the wall" so far. Are there :any albums most :like :the above mentioned?=20 First of all, never compare Floyd albums, they are all different, just li= ke the heroes of the list. I'll say that the one you woud like to get now= are The Division Bell. Then go for=20 A Momentary Lapse of Reason,=20 Delicate Sound of Thunder,=20 Pulse, and to top it of,=20 Animals.=20 Feel free to buy Ummagumma, also, but not one a would rekomend right of.=20 Or visit my sight at <http://www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4> for more spesifi= c details.=20
:Also, is "animals" good? What about the CDs with :Gilmour before "DSOTM?= " If it is King Gilmour you want, buy About Face from '84 or his first solo= album from '78, which is hard to get.=20
:Thanks, :Brandon
You're welcome,=20 J=F8rgen Bakken 62 59 50 80=20 91 74 77 98=20 www.angelfire.com/az/jazz4 "Find all you need in your mind- if you take the time." Take The Time-Dream Theater-Images and Words-1992
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:04:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: LitS (Contains tab) Message-ID: <199807061404.KAA47172@node3.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Rogerio Brito: > > [Comments about Lines in the Sand being played on 7 string] > > In layman terms, how do you recognize a passage being played in a > 7 string guitar? Could you help, shedding some light? I'm sure that I'm > not the only ignorant here. :-)
it's tough with DT since Myung doubles the low stuff on the 6 string bass. i think JP used the 7 on LITS in the studio to fatten up the low end, but with Myung playing the low D live, he just plays it on a regular 6.
another song like this would be 6:00 - there are heavy low notes doubled by 6 string bass on the recording, E, D, and low B, that i bet he overdubed with the 7 even though the petrucci-edited tab book and live performance is on a 6.
-- scott andrews biophysics research sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department ****************************************************************** --- http://www.people.virginia.edu/~sha3u --- info & CD reviews | Ibanez | soundclips of of major & underground | 7 string | my prog-thrash progressive/thrash metal | guitar info | metal band ATAXIA ****************************************************************** "metal isn't dead, it just smells funny." -Zappa paraphrase
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:22:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: belhai@drew.edu Subject: Re: Pink Floyd Message-ID: <199807061422.KAA15393@clipper.hq.tis.com>
> >I'm curious as to which Pink Floyd album to buy next. I have "DSOTM", >"wish you were here" and "the wall" so far. Are there any albums most >like the above mentioned? > >Also, is "animals" good? What about the CDs with Gilmour before "DSOTM?" >
I'd suggest "Animals" as your next choice. It's probably the closest you'll find to those albums, though it has it's own style. It's one of my favorite PF albums. You might also want to try "The Final Cut" which has more Roger Waters' influence. "Momentary Lapse of Reason" is not bad, but without Roger Waters. I also like Meddle, which is the album before DSOTM. It shows more of the psychedelic influences of earlier Floyd. I don't like the albums before Meddle very well.
If you end up really liking "The Final Cut" and Roger Waters' influence, try his solo album "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking". It's a concept album about a man's dream and is rather bizarre. It's a bit hard to get into but I've come to love it.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:02:33 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Powermad Gathering Message-ID: <35A0E709.EAF1FC04@bdm.com>
> From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > Well, from talking to several of the Bostonjammers, it seems like > there will be a pretty large group of Ytsejammers at Powermad... to > the point that we should do some sort of gathering... how many people > out there are planning on attending? I know I definatly am...
Well since Powermad is basically Friday 6pm-1am, Saturday 2pm-1am and Sunday whatever hours, Powermad is the gathering. It is in this old veterans-water buffalo type hall. The bands play on the stage and the cd venders are on the sides and food (although nasty) and drink served in the back of the hall.
NP:Led Zeppelin Tribute -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email : pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |===================================================================| | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" -- X-Files | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:56:39 +0100 From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Opeth/Monster Magnet/Sentenced/Alastis etc. Message-ID: <01BDA8FF.0C6D04C0@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
more reviews, recommendations and comments.
OPETH - My Arms, Your Hearse
Weird title, weird but excellent music. I'd listened to Opeth's first albums "Orchid" and "Morningrise" and found them interesting but not quite good enough to buy. Perhaps I'll have to go back and listen to them again in view of this new album. This is black/death/symphonic/progressive metal and is a real surprise. The album starts with a short piano prologue, and ends with a very floydesque epilogue. Sandwiched between these two tracks are 7 very original and very individual songs. There are dramatic changes between quiet acoustic passages and hard, fast riffs, there is some great drumming and a range of vocals that includes both clean styles and a bass cookie monster. This album needs listening to closely - it reveals more and more layers and subtleties each time you play it. I'm sure it will be spending an unfair amount of time in my stereo. 9/10
MONSTER MAGNET - Powertrip
This is Monster Magnet's 4th album and the first one after Dave Wyndorf quit drugs. Do you notice it? I think so - I feel this album isn't quite so spaced out as the older stuff, but that makes it possibly a bit more accessible. The typical huge stoner riffs are still there, the distortion is still there, Wyndorf's threatening voice is still there - all in all, an album that I would rate up there with Fu Manchu's "The Action Is Go" if it wasn't for the last track 'Your Lies Become You'. This sort of band simply shouldn't play boring rock ballads that you would normally associate with Bon Jovi. Loose 2 points. 8/10
SENTENCED/ALASTIS
I received a split sampler from Century Media with 2 songs from each of the forthcoming albums by Sentenced and Alastis (both of which will be released on the 20th of July). The Sentenced tracks sound just like they came from the 'Down' sessions, although just a little more melodic. The lyrics remain as dark and negative as ever. Alastis now have a new bass player, which has led to the sound opening up and becoming rounder. The melodic black metal they play is well planned and thought out. They still sound a bit like Samael without copying them, but must now be viewed as a serious challenge as one of the best black metal acts. No ratings until I get the full length albums in my grubby little hands. Sentenced - Frozen. Alastis - Revenge.
More on Bill Hicks - get stuff by this guy. I just got his album "Arizona Bay" at the weekend. Very dark and bitter, but very intelligent and funny. Listen to this, and you will hear Tool's "Aenima" differently.
Parting shot: anybody who watches Jay Leno gets exactly what they deserve.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Handsome - Handsome "We're a virus with shoes, that's all we are" - Bill Hicks
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:38:59 +0200 From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: bootlegs Message-ID: <01bda8fc$93446540$LocalHost@schnipp>
Hi again, I own some boots and just want to know whether there's a rare one between it. I know I should get Wake Up& Static Progress, I'll work on that. Majesty-March of the tyrannt(12 tracks) Live in Long Island I&II(including ACOS) Comedy&Tragedy Consciously Unrealy Caught in a web Rockin' Japan Dream Concert(radiocut from D=FCsseldorf and Utrecht) Fix for 96
Private mail is ok. I am just curious whether that's the normal basis or = if I already own a little treasure( I mean of course these are treasures for me - not just zthjings for a collection). That's the bottom line, because schnipp
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:32:27 +0200 From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DTmailing list Message-ID: <01bda8fb$a9f05700$LocalHost@schnipp>
Ok, thanks for all the reply my LitS question got. I have bought the book by now, but I like the E|--------------------------------------------------- B|----3---3----------------------------------------- G|----2---2-------0----5--------------------------- D|----0---0-----------------5----0----------------- A|----0---0---------------------------5-----0------ E|--------------------------------------------------- fingering best. Nevertheless I have to make some comments, not complaints, regarding how the jam is used to work and I hope that somebody (one would be enough) would answer (on the jam or privately). When I first joined at about January I burned my fingers and got flamed because I answered war mails I shouldn't have without knowing everything. Apparently it was all ironic and I was the kiddo. That used to be the times of Stone Cold Schnipp (I guess I'll start to use not only my initial as signature - maybe that is why nobody answers.). But - I do have an opinion, questions and maybe even answers although I'm usually too late for answers: in Germany we cannot use the line for free so I only get digests and in most cases somebody else answers the questions. I was just wondering why I get no answer most times I have a question. I got one this time, but why did nobody post before that the Tab-book is available. I guess at least 1/6 th of the jammers play a little guitar. IT IS also available in Germany but I guess that's relatively "new" news. Doesn't matter. I know now that the ppv Japan-Video is the WOWOW thing, but nobody has answered whether there is a transcription of the Platinum record ceremony or where to get it( it is definitely not in the FAQ). Maybe a Japanese jammer can provide that. Or, why is in the mirror image on Tour-shirt back the year not reversed??? Any ideas? Is it not in America? I hope you do not misunderstand me: I am just eager to get information about my favourite band. If you all know this, damn I'm sorry, but I thought that is what a fan forum is for. Ok, one last question repeated, than I'm open for your flames. Regarding the drums of Hollow Years (I am no drummer) I have a question. They sound real acoustic, with room. But the click in the beginning. I dunno, to me it sounds like an overdub click, also because MP starts DURING the click-doing(sorry, I'm still trying to learn this language) with the snare. Any comments.?? I have other questions, but I'll write another mail. take care that's the bottom line, because... schnipp
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