YTSEJAM digest 4043

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Date: Tue Jul 07 1998 - 01:39:05 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) I'm showing my ignorance here...
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
      2) Headlining Show !!!!!!!!!!!
     by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
      3) back to mary and the queen of scots
     by Thrak75@aol.com
      4) Floyd 2000
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
      5) Peaveys and Insults (and bears! Oh my!)
     by "Nicholas Giannotti" <mogus@hotmail.com>
      6) Re: I'm showing my ignorance here...
     by marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall)
      7) Re: non-Itchy official-page maintainers (Double CD and Video!)
     by marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall)
      8) Neil's wife
     by Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
      9) Re: DT on Liveconcert.com(or whatever it is)
     by WazooDust@aol.com
     10) Re: Maidentour
     by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
     11) FII tab book
     by "Scott Micucci" <scottm@ipinc.net>
     12) Classical and Kronos Quartet
     by Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu>
     13) Peart Tragedy
     by David Plotkin <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu>
     14) Re: DT Aud boots
     by Perk1994@aol.com
     15) Re: classic boots of DT?
     by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
     16) Mindcrime video
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     17) Re: Mindcrime video
     by Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
     18) Powermad Festival
     by KyleTaraG@aol.com

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:15:20 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: I'm showing my ignorance here...
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980706201227.6790A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

            Well, thank you for the people who have responded to my earlier
    question about identifying a 7-string guitar. I'll pay more attention to
    some songs and tell you what I think.

            But now I've got another question, motivated by Calvin's answer:
    what exactly is the definition of a power chord?

            []s, Roger "The Ignorant Bastard"...

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      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
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    Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:39:19 -0400 From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Headlining Show !!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <35A16026.183E0DCD@seacoast.com>

    If anyone's up for a road trip . you can catch the only DT headlining gig in the near future. They're playing the Club Casino in Hampton Beach New Hampshire on August 4th, tickets are onsale, hope to see a bunch of jammers there!! http://www.casinoballroom.com/ Bob

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:57:51 EDT From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: back to mary and the queen of scots Message-ID: <9315f150.35a16480@aol.com>

    after i reading scott's email, all i can say in defense is the following:

    damn you, you little whore.

    oh well- so i fucked it up. soudned cool anyway. thanks for the clarifying.

    ************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com

    "i've got a feeling the tide is turning now, baby...." -m. portnoy ************************************************************************

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Floyd 2000 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980706201224.10547B-100000@thunder>

    Yes, Pink Floyd (and other bands such as U2, etc) are looking to hold a New Years eve concert.. actually a series of shows that last several days.. for either NYE 1999 or 2000 (not sure). They are still weeding through red tape and the show may never come to fruition.

    How do you pain the moon with lasers? Pyramids, yes, moon, no :)

    -ponte

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    Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:27:44 PDT From: "Nicholas Giannotti" <mogus@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peaveys and Insults (and bears! Oh my!) Message-ID: <19980707002744.196.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Peavey amps, while not the greatest, do have one thing going for them - they're built like brick shithouses. A lot of musicians use them for touring rigs because they have that 'perfect' amp that they don't want to abuse on the road.

    KorgX3 wrote,

    >This is a music mailing list. Maybe if you post some relevant >material then say "The Red Wings Rule!" or something at the end of >your post, that's cool,but if you wanna talk about sports strictly to >the jam, I promise I will rip apart every post you place here, and >sent it back to the jam with several different variations of what a >slut your mother is. >--KorgX3

    Classy.

    -Nicholas

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:41:31 -0500 From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: I'm showing my ignorance here... Message-ID: <19980706.194614.19886.2.marshallm@juno.com>

    On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Rogerio Brito writes:

    > But now I've got another question, motivated by Calvin's >answer: >what exactly is the definition of a power chord?

    I knew I just read this somewhere!

    While this may not be the "textbook" answer (if such exists!), I thought it was a pretty simple and useful answer. To quote Marty Friedman in the July '98 Guitar World "Full Shred" column:

    "...The vast majority of hard rock chord progressions are comprised of simple root/fifth power chords.* A power chord is neither major nor minor - it's harmonically ambiguous. This means that if you're soloing over a single power chord, you can take your solo wherever you want to - you can go major or minor and use different modes and arpeggios to paint a variety of musical colors, provided you know what you're doing and the progression allows for some harmonic flexibility."

    * root/fifth meaning a base (think 'bass') note with an accomp- anying note 7 half-steps above (why? 'cause it's five half-steps below the root's octave). A basic E power chord, arguably the most prevalent during the '80s, consists simply of hitting the big fat E-string, while being coordinated enough to simultan- eously put your finger behind the second fret of the somewhat thinner A-string (which would sound a B) and hitting it as close to the same time as you can. Then, stomp your foot, and swing your head about. Sounds like a lot of work, huh?

    BTW, Roger -the Instremental II CD kicks ass! It hasn't left the CD-ROM on my laptop since! Thanks a bunch! Hope the M*t*ll*c* vid is what you were hoping for...

    Carpe Nocturn,

    Michael

    "Just remember, there's no such thing as a stupid question...just stupid people"

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:55:06 -0500 From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: non-Itchy official-page maintainers (Double CD and Video!) Message-ID: <19980706.195531.18022.1.marshallm@juno.com>

    On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 Mark Bredius writes:

    > In the meantime, check out Elektra's DT page... Someone just > told me it says the 2CD *and* home video will be released in > October ! Can't go there myself, for reasons stated above...

    Sure enough Mark! It says right on the page:

    NEW DREAM THEATER 2CD LIVE ALBUM AND HOME VIDEO COMING OCTOBER 1998!! MORE INFO TO COME....

    I know where I'll be on some Tuesday morning in October!

    For those interested, the URL of the page is:

    http://www.elektra.com/metal_club/dream/dream.html TARGET=""

    It's actually got some cool graphic work for a band they won't promote :)

    Carpe Nocturn,

    Michael

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Subject: Neil's wife Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980706215353.24024A-100000@copland.udel.edu>

    The only thing I find kind of weird is that we didn't know she had cancer.

    andy

    Andrew Miller ytsejam@Udel.Edu

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:02:18 EDT From: WazooDust@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT on Liveconcert.com(or whatever it is) Message-ID: <b7d13b35.35a181ab@aol.com>

    MP is doing a live interview before the concertcast(Mostly about LTE), and the concert is from the HOB in San Francisco some time in May (17 i think)

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:36:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Maidentour Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980706222746.12598A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

    > From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> > Subject: Maidentour > > Anyone have any idea when and if Iron Maiden'll be playing east coast (US) > tourdates, specifically in the PA/NJ region? The official webpage hasn't

    Tomorrow Roseland NYC July 31st Electric Factory Philadelphia August 2nd Birch Hill Niteclub Old Bridge

    As I am from Michigan, I have never been to anyher of these places, but didn't you guys say that Birch Hill was really small? That's strange because the place they just played here was an arena with max around 7000, and there was a fairly decent turnout. Just curious.

    -C#

    NP: My F'kin CD player! (all praise Nicko)

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:47:49 -0700 From: "Scott Micucci" <scottm@ipinc.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FII tab book Message-ID: <000b01bda95a$03bfe3a0$a2ad1dce@scott-micucci>

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:57:27 -0400 From: Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Classical and Kronos Quartet Message-ID: <01BDA939.F6BDB620@ppp-07-ts21.nerdc.ufl.edu>

    Many thanks to the Ytsejammers that put up the Classical thread. I went = to the library and tried out some of your suggesetions. I have been = impressed by Mahler, but I discovered this quartet that TOTALLY blew my = mind away.

    The group is called the KRONOS QUARTET and if you would like to hear = TRULY progressive classical pieces, this is it!! I would reccomned this = group to the fans of King Crimson. This group is just so innovative, = both in style and technique. They must slap, pop, bang and even use a = pick on those instruments (3 violins and 1 cello). Truly progressive!!! = Can any other ytsejammers back me up on this one???

    d a u s s t u d e n b e r g=20

    "few will try, most will quit" - Tom Ryan

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    Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:59:30 -0400 From: David Plotkin <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peart Tragedy Message-ID: <v03007800b1c604ca7a54@[144.92.180.171]>

    As I've been a few days behind on emails, only five minutes ago did I come across Mike Bahr's post of the latest misery to descend Neil Peart. Since that moment all I've done is virtually stare aimlessly at my computer. Perhaps the shock didn't strike me initially; when I continued down Mike's post and read the first of his personal remarks, then I understood: "One of the cornerstones of my life up until now has just crumbled." My stomach simply gave out and I really had to bury my head in my hands.

    Of course I shant bombard the Jam with much in the way of my personal response to this event (and of course only time will tell Rush's ultimate fate), but there is one point I should share (inasmuch as it does relate to DT, as well as the rest of music held in this vein), for as Mike said, "I imagine many of you feel this way." :

    While I could talk unabatedly of the wonders Rush's music has provided me with emotionally, psychologically, whatever, over the years, I won't. But it boils down to one issue: RUSH IS WHAT GOT ME INTO THIS WHOLE THING TO BEGIN WITH!! Lyrics aside, individual songs aside, it is that (oftentimes to me) indescribable SOUND of Rush which fills me with such intense pleasure. That same aspect of DT moves me in the identical way. I'm 22. I constantly refer back to when I was only seven or eight and heard my very first Rush song, The Camera Eye, for the first time. I do consider that song to have Rush's quintessential SOUND, however abstract that term my lend itself to their music, and as much as I don't want to cite individual songs. You couldn't have hit me hard enough to phase me on the night of my 18th birthday when I got to see them for the first time at Madison Square Garden. I even wore a tie to school that day. It was an event I shall never forget.

    To those who view music as passionately as we do, I believe it's always possible to visualize in your mind's eye you getting word of some sort of tragedy befalling your favorite band, hearing of their breakup, whatever it may be. You then contemplate, "OK, they're through....now what? Of course I'll endure through this, but...well...hmm, I just don't quite know how conceptualize them not being a part of my life anymore, inasmuch as they played such an integral part in it up until now."

    Quite simply, my emotions to this day are in consonance with the peaks and troughs of Rush's music and overall sound, and it was only after fully being able to internalize their music was I able to focus in on appreciating bands like DT, Yes, the Ozric Tentacles, and countless other bands, jazz groups included. It seems as if we have reached the point where in all likelihood, as Mike said, "until further notice, Rush will be no more." I'm left feeling utterly grateful to what they have done for me, yet this last phrase, well, just flat out makes me nauseous.

    Feeling Much Sorrow,

    David Plotkin

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:27:40 EDT From: Perk1994@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Aud boots Message-ID: <eeba9947.35a1a3bd@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/6/98 7:17:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike Bahr wrote:

    << If I were to then list the best audience boots of all time, which would arguably make up the second-tier of great DT boots (in no order), they would be... 1. The Dance of Eternity (NY '93 with ACOS) 2. Static Progress - FII tour. Clear is clear. 3. Carpe Diem (Marcel Berkhout version) - ACOS tour. 4. Caught in Amsterdam '97 - FF96 tour. 5. The Darkest of Winters - HFTH tour. 6. A Kind of Homecoming - FII tour. >>

    Hello everyone, I'd like to add another audience bootleg to that list. I was in a record store on Long Island that sells bootlegs in their used section. They had two DT boots, one called "In Germany" and the other called "Acienne Belgique", both from the FII tour. "In Germany" sounded good but the setlist wasn't anything special. "Acienne Belgique" had a great setlist so I listened to that one and bought it after just a few seconds of listening. Let me tell you, this is one great bootleg. I'd say the sound is a little below "Static Progress" and the only negative is that some girl is screaming at the beginning of Disc 1 and sounds like she's getting killed. But after a little while, she was either put out of her misery or she just shut up. : ) Here's the setlist from the show that took place on Feb. 26, 1998: Disc 1 Crimson Sunrise/Innocence Take the Time New Mellinium Voices Guitar Solo Peruvian Skies Just Let Me Breathe Lie The Way It Used to Be (FII demos) Disc 2 Derek Solo Anna Lee (MP sings the first verse very badly. Where the hell did James go?) Hollow Years Pull Me Under Ytse Jam (Fasten Your Seatbelts version) Drum Solo Ytse Jame Reprise Trial of Tears Metropolis Part I Cover My Eyes (FII demo) Speak to Me (FII demo)

    This is definitely a boot to get if you can find it. MP singing "Anna Lee" is worth the set alone!

    Oh and one other thing before I go: Are there any NY area 'Jammers who need a ride to Powermad and would like to share travel and hotel expenses? Please e- mail me if you are interested.

    Take care, Adam Perkowsky

    "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- Spinal Tap

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    Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:31:20 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: classic boots of DT? Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980707002939.543433401C-100000@drew.edu>

    On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Michael Bahr wrote:

    > If you ask me what the best DT boots are, they are few and far between. > Many of my own don't qualify because IMHO a top-tier boot must come from > the soundboard, at least predominantly. Here's my (brief) listing of the > DT boots no DT fan should be without (in no order): > > 3. A Kick Into a Dream - soundboard, Awake tour (FM)

    Mike, are you sure that AKIAD is from the board? I have a copy of this (from the CD boot) and it doesn't sound as good as a soundboard.

    Brandon

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    Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:39:40 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mindcrime video Message-ID: <35A1A68B.840D9F8C@home.com>

    I was browsing around spree.com, and I see they have Queensryche's Mindcrime video for $13.48 Firstly, what's the scoop with this video? Is it ALL live segments, or does it have story-type segments also (like the APSoG video, from what I've heard). Also, they list the title as QR: Mindcrime Video, but is this the one called Operation:Livecrime, or is that something else? Lastly, IS IT WORTH GETTING?

    Oh, also I have a quick non-music thing.......

    > And now a recommendation for you folk. Go out and rent a movie called "The > City of Lost Children". Friggin' awesome.

    What's the scoop with this movie? I saw the box at the store once. Is it a horror, or suspense, or drama or what?

    Thanks as always, - Joe D.

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    Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:05:12 -0700 From: Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mindcrime video Message-ID: <199807070459.VAA16253@future.futureone.com>

    At 09:51 PM 7/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I was browsing around spree.com, and I see they have Queensryche's >Mindcrime video for $13.48 >Firstly, what's the scoop with this video? Is it ALL live segments, or >does it have story-type segments also (like the APSoG video, from what >I've heard). Also, they list the title as QR: Mindcrime Video, but is >this the one called Operation:Livecrime, or is that something else? >Lastly, IS IT WORTH GETTING?

    Its been years since I've seen this one but I believe its the one that has a cartoon (kinda like Heavy Metal) version of mindcrime and it fades in and out to the band playing the songs, not live in concert though, just them playing in a warehouse or something. Once again, its been years :) Operation Livecrime is the video that came with the video/CD (or tape) box set from the Operation Livecrime tour. Very worth getting if you can find it anywhere.

    On a side note, does anyone know where I can get some samples of Age of Impact? Thanks!

    Ryan

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:15:36 EDT From: KyleTaraG@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Powermad Festival Message-ID: <adbf5a8e.35a1aef9@aol.com>

    << > From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > Well, from talking to several of the Bostonjammers, it seems like > there will be a pretty large group of Ytsejammers at Powermad... to > the point that we should do some sort of gathering... how many people > out there are planning on attending? I know I definatly am... >> Well, I'll be making the trek from Los Angeles to Baltimore for this years' Powermad. I had a great time last year and I highly recommend it to all Jammers...just a great enviornment for prog/power metal. The bands, the cd vendors...just the whole vibe was very cool. Symphony X is supposed to be headlining Saturday night and I just got an email from the Quiet Room saying that they're probably playing again this year. I know last year I met Mike (Thrak...) and a few other jammers...hope to see a few more there this year. Then DT/DP/ELP in L.A. the week after I get back home...perfect timing!

    -Kyle

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