YTSEJAM Digest 4048
Today's Topics:
1) Great bootlegs !!!
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
2) re: Lemur Voice shafting, music trends
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
3) FINAL CALL!! FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
4) NDTC: Megadeth (bad news)
by AEllis1222@aol.com
5) Re: More "Lines" lines
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
6) Yngwie Malmsteen Paris 6/9/98 (part 1)
by "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr>
7) Yngwie Malmsteen Paris 6/9/98 (part 2)
by "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr>
8) FINAL CALL!! FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 17:21:25 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Great bootlegs !!!
Message-ID: <35A40D05.29FA@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Today, I found some really cool boots in my record shop.
I can try to get more copies for you guys.
DREAM THEATER - LIVE AND ALIVE I 1992
1) Metropolis 9:06
2)A Fortune In Lies 5:00
3)Under A Glass Moon 6:55
4)Surrounded 5:48
5)The Ytsejam/Drum solo 8:40
6)Another Day 4:27
7The Killing Hand 10:01
8)Pull Me Under 7:54
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DREAM THEATER - LIVE AND ALIVE II 1992
1)Take The Time 10:22
2)Wait For Sleep 4:00
3)Learning To Live 12:53
4)Metropolis 10:22 <--- VOCALS BY CHARLIE DOMINICI !!!!
5)Afterlife 5:31 <--- VOCALS BY CHARLIE DOMINICI
6)Forever 4:48 <--- VOCALS BY CHARLIE DOMINICI
7)Guitar Solo 4:44
8)Only A Matter Of Time 6:37
Track 4,5 & 6 recorded in 1989
Yes. METROPOLIS I with Charlie Dominici on vocals.
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RUSH - LIVE IN USA (New York) 1991
1)Force Ten 4:34
2)Limelight 4:17
3)Free Will 3:05
4)Distant Early Warning 5:25
5)Time Stand Still 5:24
6)Dreamline 5:01
7)Roll The Bones 5:59
8)Bravado 6:20
9)Show Don't Tell 6:11
10)Big Money 6:00
11)Ghost Of A Chance 5:20
12)Subdivisions 3:45
13)The Pass 4:52
As I allready said, I can try (I don't promise) to get extra copies for you.
Each CD costs 35 DM which is about 20 $.
Email me if you are interested.
BTW, I can also get these bootlegs :
TORI AMOS - White Horses Live Boulder 92 20 $
TORI AMOS - Years Of Silence Live 20 $
TORI AMOS - New York Live 1994 20 $
TORI AMOS - Silent All These Years Live 20 $
TORI AMOS - I Touch Myself live USA 1994 20 $
MR. BIG - Live 20 $
MEGADETH - Live In Usa 93 20 $
METALLICA - The Unforgiven 2CD live 1993 35 $
METALLICA - Kingdom And Eternity live 20 $
METALLICA - Satan Sort Them live 20 $
METALLICA - More Is All You Need live 2CD 35 $
METALLICA - Live in Hamilton Canada 1992 2CD 35 $
METALLICA - Stone Cold Crazy 2CD 35 $
METALLICA - Wherever We May Roam Tour'92 2CD 35 $
MR. BIG - Live 20 $
RUSH - 2CD live in St. Petersburg 1994 35 $
JOE SATRIANI - Always With You live 20 $
Enough ???? ;-)
NP : Arena - Welcome To The Stage
Arash
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Lemur Voice shafting, music trends
Message-ID: <19980708174716.18908.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>
Mike Patrick <mepatric@indy.net> on The Shafting of Lemur Voice
inquired:
>I am, however, confused. Couldn't these guys get a
>record deal at the drop of a hat? What's the problem?
Could they get a deal? Based on what? If it were based on
musicianship, then they'd be able to do it easy. Unfortunately,
quality has little bearing. They need to have a proven, purchasing
fanbase, or they need to fit the current trend. They don't have
either. DT barely has a big enough fanbase to get albums released today.
Speaking of trends, in the 80's, Lemur Voice would have had no problem
getting a deal. That was a couple of trends back though.
If you wanted a guaranteed record contract today, the current rock
flavor is anything that sounds like The Counting Crowes or Sheryl
Crow. I don't even know what to call this category, but it's what the
record companies like right now.
Other artists: Wallflowers, Matchbox 20, Lisa Loeb, anyone on the
Lilith tour, etc.
What is this genre called anyway?
neo-folk-rock?
(All you musicians, change your style now and start making money! Call
1-800-SELL-OUT for details! For a low franchise fee, you will be sent
a musicians kit which includes everything you need to become a star!)
my $.03, BH
P.S. Back on Lemur Voice, yes!, let's e-mail the record companies.
That may convince them that there's enough fans out to make it
worthwhile for a record company to release their material.
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:36:00 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FINAL CALL!! FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980708143600.00792e40@mail.erinet.com>
I need some extra money, and I'm sure some DT fans out there might like
this gem. It'll go to the highest offer by (Friday) July 10th. It is the
very first Prism Records Dream Theater bootleg, and it is hand numbered
#348. This is back when Kevin Moore was in the band (expect for the awake
jams).
Tracks:
1. Eve (w/ KevMo samples)
2. A Change ofSeasons (older version of it)
3. O Holy Night (w/ Dominici)
4. Carry that Weight/Golden Slumbers (Beatles cover)
5. Don't Look Past Me
6. Wanted: Dead or Alive (Petrucci w/ Kev & friend on "vocals")
7. To Live Forever (acoustic)
8. The Gorilla Session (instrumental)
9. Mission:Impossible Theme
10. The Back Pain Jam (improv jam)
11. The Awake Heavy Jam (improv jam)
12. Experimental (Myung improv instrumental on guitar)
13. Tears (Rush cover)
14. Winter (Tori Amos cover)
send all offers to: dantemm@erinet.com
Dan
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dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:28:14 EDT
From: AEllis1222@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com, bostonjam@dreamt.org
Subject: NDTC: Megadeth (bad news)
Message-ID: <13306016.35a3d65f@aol.com>
My friend was listening to Megadeth's set at Boston's Hard Rock Cafe, on the
radio today, and Megadeth announced that it was official: Nick Menza is out
of Megadeth for good.
Art
www.joestump.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:45:02 -0400
From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: More "Lines" lines
Message-ID: <35A3DA4E.5C5A@net1plus.com>
Mike Stoner wrote:
> Don't know if we ever resolved this, so I gave it a listen last night
> and came up with...
>
> > > > E----x----x--------------------------------
> > > > B----3----3--------------------------------
> > > > G----2----2-----0--5-----------------------
> > > > D----0----0-----------3--------------------
> > > > A----0----0--------------3--5--0-----------
> > > > E----x----x--------------------------------
>
> I feel pretty confident that is how it's played. Don't flame me just
> because it's more difficult!
I just checked and this dude is right on. Good ears! Maybe I just
wasn't "looking" for that note because I swear that JP played it with
all hammer-ons and pull-offs when they played Boston back in December.
(I made a point to watch that part.)
Jon Dery
> - Mike
>
> ------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:28:41 +0200
From: "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie Malmsteen Paris 6/9/98 (part 1)
Message-ID: <002001bdaac0$4e725380$a32a9ac3@mr.mouro>
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Hello Everybody,
My name is Felix, and I=92m new to the list. Nice to meet all of you.
The following post is a review of Yngmie Malmsteen=92s show in Cafe de =
la Danse, Paris, France on June 9, 1998.
To start off my story, I have to say that the last Yngwie album I liked =
was Odyssey, out back in 1988. After that, with a couple of exceptions =
on Fire and Ice and Seventh Sign, I was largely unimpressed by his =
albums to say the least. All that have changed, however, when I checked =
out his latest album =93 Facing the Animal =94. To cut a long story =
short, I liked it so much that I=92ve decided to go to his show, =
something I would have hardly imagined myself doing a mere 6 months =
earlier.
The first surprise of the evening was a =93 sold-out =94 sign I saw =
posted on the doors of the venue. OK, Cafe de la Danse is not exactly a =
baseball stadium, but its 800-1000 capacity is still considerable, =
taking into account that a year earlier Yngwie had had to cancel a show =
in a venue half this capacity due to the lack of ticket sales. =
Obviously, I was not the only one who dug the new album. Well, on to the =
show....
As there was no opening band, the first thing we=92ve heard that =
evening, was an appregiated burst of about 5000 notes executed in under =
3 seconds, and coming seemingly out of nowhere, as the house lights and =
the background music were still on. A series of such bursts followed, =
and then a thunderous drum roll announced the beginning of the show, =
with the band kicking off a well sped-up version of classic =93 rising =
force =94. If I remember correctly, the band was the same as on =93 =
Facing the Animal =94, with a regrettable absence of Cozy Powell =
(R.I.P). The rhythm section was quite efficient, although largely =
unremarkable. The singer was really good though, performing seamlessly =
the new songs as well as the classics (which is no mean feat, =
considering they were originally recorded by such legendary vocalists as =
Jeff Scott Soto and Joe Lynn Turner). Besides Yngwie, however, it was =
the keyboard player who was undoubtedly the most remarkable musician on =
stage that night. His faultlessly executed parts of the prolonged =
guitar-keyboard duels were, in my opinion, one of the highlights of the =
entire show. A couple of words about the maestro himself now.....
End of Part 1. To be continued.....
Now Playing: DT Fan Club Gig, Rotterdam 6/22/98
OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS
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<P>Hello Everybody,</P>
<P>My name is Felix, and I’m new to the list. Nice to meet all of =
you.</P>
<P>The following post is a review of Yngmie Malmsteen’s show in =
Cafe de la=20
Danse, Paris, France on June 9, 1998.</P>
<P>To start off my story, I have to say that the last Yngwie album I =
liked was=20
Odyssey, out back in 1988. After that, with a couple of exceptions on =
Fire and=20
Ice and Seventh Sign, I was largely unimpressed by his albums to say the =
least.=20
All that have changed, however, when I checked out his latest album =
“=20
Facing the Animal ”. To cut a long story short, I liked it so much =
that=20
I’ve decided to go to his show, something I would have hardly =
imagined=20
myself doing a mere 6 months earlier.</P>
<P>The first surprise of the evening was a “ sold-out ” sign =
I saw=20
posted on the doors of the venue. OK, Cafe de la Danse is not exactly a =
baseball=20
stadium, but its 800-1000 capacity is still considerable, taking into =
account=20
that a year earlier Yngwie had had to cancel a show in a venue half this =
capacity due to the lack of ticket sales. Obviously, I was not the only =
one who=20
dug the new album. Well, on to the show....</P>
<P>As there was no opening band, the first thing we’ve heard that =
evening,=20
was an appregiated burst of about 5000 notes executed in under 3 =
seconds, and=20
coming seemingly out of nowhere, as the house lights and the background =
music=20
were still on. A series of such bursts followed, and then a thunderous =
drum roll=20
announced the beginning of the show, with the band kicking off a well =
sped-up=20
version of classic “ rising force ”. If I remember =
correctly, the=20
band was the same as on “ Facing the Animal ”, with a =
regrettable=20
absence of Cozy Powell (R.I.P). The rhythm section was quite efficient, =
although=20
largely unremarkable. The singer was really good though, performing =
seamlessly=20
the new songs as well as the classics (which is no mean feat, =
considering they=20
were originally recorded by such legendary vocalists as Jeff Scott Soto =
and Joe=20
Lynn Turner). Besides Yngwie, however, it was the keyboard player who =
was=20
undoubtedly the most remarkable musician on stage that night. His =
faultlessly=20
executed parts of the prolonged guitar-keyboard duels were, in my =
opinion, one=20
of the highlights of the entire show. A couple of words about the =
maestro=20
himself now.....</FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>End of Part 1. To be =
continued.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Now Playing: DT Fan Club Gig, =
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:31:11 +0200
From: "OPEN ALL NIGHT RECORDS" <kingofswing@hol.fr>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie Malmsteen Paris 6/9/98 (part 2)
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Part 2:
Although I=92m not an Yngwie specialist, I would say he was in top-form =
and well beyond. In fact, I have never ever dreamt of witnessing such an =
outstanding tour de force of guitar (read: shred) virtuosity. Although =
I=92ve heard the stories, I nevertheless could not believe that anyone =
could sweep pick over 90% of a two-hour+ show. And it=92s not only that =
he does it, it=92s more a way in which he does it that really makes you =
wish you had never attempted to play guitar in the first place. OK, so =
some people say it=92s only the technique and his heart is not there. =
Maybe so, maybe not. The one thing that I can be sure of, is that this =
man sweeps as he breathes; it is as simple as that. Also, what really =
amazed is that a good 70% of what he plays is actually an improvisation, =
which is amazing, considering that sweep parts are usually based on =
prearranged patterns and, unlike alternate picking, are pretty hard to =
improvise with (in my opinion). Also on the menu that night was some =
high-octane two-hand tapping, open-string passages, tremolo action, =
lightning-fast 12-fret-plus up- scale runs, 2 =BD step bends etc. etc. =
Oh, and the vibrato.......In my humble opinion, one thing at which =
Yngwie truly is the best there is, is the vibrato. It is wide and deep =
and dynamic....it is unbelievable. In fact, I first thought that he =
actually takes his palm off the neck to do that (I=92ve seen some =
players do that to execute a super-wide vibrato), but when I looked more =
closely I saw that it was not the case here. Rather, it was all in the =
fingers...
Interestingly enough, there was only about 9 or 10 songs during the =
whole 2 hour show. In fact, the whole show could be described as one big =
jam with a couple of songs intermixed. Most of the songs were from the =
new album (title track, my ressurection, like an angel, braveheart), =
plus 2 songs from "seventh sign" (title track, never die) and a bunch of =
oldies (i'll see the light tonight, black star, you don't remember...). =
My favourite however was a mind-blowing 15-minute rendition of Deep =
Purple classic "mistreated", which included a guitar jam which would =
make Ritchie Blackmore want to retire once and for all (note: although =
it was obviously real hard for him, Yngwie managed to play about 65% of =
this tune with alternate picking; after all, this is supposed to be a =
heavy blues song :)......). The biggest surprise of the evening, =
however, was a full 6 minute blues jam, with Yngwie singing. No, I'm not =
kidding, it was some old blues tune, and Yngwie was playing classic =
blues licks, and there was not a single trace of shred in there (i.e. =
100% alternate, mostly pentatonic, with tons of bends and once again a =
vibrato tour de force). The rest of the show was made up of endless jams =
which consisted of parts from various Yngwie instrumentals and just =
plain SHRED with no accompaniment. Also, Yngwie did a very cool =
instrumental version of "dreaming" during the acoustic guitar solo.
Well, that's about it. Hope I didn't bore you too much.
Take care and keep on rocking,
Felix.
Now Playing: DT Fan Club Gig, Rotterdam, 6/22/98
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<P>Although I’m not an Yngwie specialist, I would say he was in =
top-form=20
and well beyond. In fact, I have never ever dreamt of witnessing such an =
outstanding tour de force of guitar (read: shred) virtuosity. Although=20
I’ve heard the stories, I nevertheless could not believe that =
anyone could=20
sweep pick over 90% of a two-hour+ show. And it’s not only that he =
does=20
it, it’s more a way in which he does it that really makes you wish =
you had=20
never attempted to play guitar in the first place. OK, so some people =
say=20
it’s only the technique and his heart is not there. Maybe so, =
maybe not.=20
The one thing that I can be sure of, is that this man sweeps as he =
breathes; it=20
is as simple as that. Also, what really amazed is that a good 70% of =
what he=20
plays is actually an improvisation, which is amazing, considering that =
sweep=20
parts are usually based on prearranged patterns and, unlike alternate =
picking,=20
are pretty hard to improvise with (in my opinion). Also on the menu that =
night=20
was some high-octane two-hand tapping, open-string passages, tremolo =
action,=20
lightning-fast 12-fret-plus up- scale runs, 2 ½ step bends etc. =
etc. Oh,=20
and the vibrato.......In my humble opinion, one thing at which Yngwie =
truly is=20
the best there is, is the vibrato. It is wide and deep and dynamic....it =
is=20
unbelievable. In fact, I first thought that he actually takes his palm =
off the=20
neck to do that (I’ve seen some players do that to execute a =
super-wide=20
vibrato), but when I looked more closely I saw that it was not the case =
here.=20
Rather, it was all in the fingers...</P>
<P>Interestingly enough, there was only about 9 or 10 songs during the =
whole 2=20
hour show. In fact, the whole show could be described as one big jam =
with a=20
couple of songs intermixed. Most of the songs were from the new album =
(title=20
track, my ressurection, like an angel, braveheart), plus 2 songs from=20
"seventh sign" (title track, never die) and a bunch of oldies =
(i'll=20
see the light tonight, black star, you don't remember...). My favourite =
however=20
was a mind-blowing 15-minute rendition of Deep Purple classic=20
"mistreated", which included a guitar jam which would make =
Ritchie=20
Blackmore want to retire once and for all (note: although it was =
obviously real=20
hard for him, Yngwie managed to play about 65% of this tune with =
alternate=20
picking; after all, this is supposed to be a heavy blues song :)......). =
The=20
biggest surprise of the evening, however, was a full 6 minute blues jam, =
with=20
Yngwie singing. No, I'm not kidding, it was some old blues tune, and =
Yngwie was=20
playing classic blues licks, and there was not a single trace of shred =
in there=20
(i.e. 100% alternate, mostly pentatonic, with tons of bends and once =
again a=20
vibrato tour de force). The rest of the show was made up of endless jams =
which=20
consisted of parts from various Yngwie instrumentals and just plain =
SHRED with=20
no accompaniment. Also, Yngwie did a very cool instrumental version of=20
"dreaming" during the acoustic guitar solo.</P>
<P><FONT size=3D3>Well, that's about it. Hope I didn't bore you too=20
much.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D3>Take care and keep on rocking,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D3>Felix.</FONT></P>
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:14:22 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FINAL CALL!! FS: DT Subconscious silver #348
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980708201422.0079d920@mail.erinet.com>
current offer is: $35
I need some extra money, and I'm sure some DT fans out there might like
this gem. It'll go to the highest offer by (Friday) July 10th. It is the
very first Prism Records Dream Theater bootleg, and it is hand numbered
#348. This is back when Kevin Moore was in the band (expect for the awake
jams).
Tracks:
1. Eve (w/ KevMo samples)
2. A Change ofSeasons (older version of it)
3. O Holy Night (w/ Dominici)
4. Carry that Weight/Golden Slumbers (Beatles cover)
5. Don't Look Past Me
6. Wanted: Dead or Alive (Petrucci w/ Kev & friend on "vocals")
7. To Live Forever (acoustic)
8. The Gorilla Session (instrumental)
9. Mission:Impossible Theme
10. The Back Pain Jam (improv jam)
11. The Awake Heavy Jam (improv jam)
12. Experimental (Myung improv instrumental on guitar)
13. Tears (Rush cover)
14. Winter (Tori Amos cover)
send all offers to: dantemm@erinet.com
Dan
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dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/
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