YTSEJAM Digest 4055
Today's Topics:
1) LiveConcerts.com Weekly Newsletter 7/13/98 (fwd)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
2) whoa nelly
by Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
3) Re: Van Halen's opener
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
4) DT on LiveConcerts.com
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4053
by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
6) Question about the Paris show
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
7) Re: tour question
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
8) Re: digest 4050 ???
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
9) Re: ADAM & THE MORALS OF BOOTS
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
10) Ytse fantasy football league?
by Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
11) new look, same old idiot.(and some adminisquestions)
by Chris Oates <aspect@tinagh.org>
12) Re: Van Halen's opener
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
13) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_DT=92s_popularity=3F?=
by "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net>
14) This is kind of gross. You probably should skip it.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) Re: This is kind of gross. You probably should skip it.
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
16) If you have e-mailed Prism and gotten no response..
by Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 06:07:57 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LiveConcerts.com Weekly Newsletter 7/13/98 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980711060644.26327A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
=09Perhaps you might find this interesteing...
=09[]s, Roger...
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:45:56 -0700
]From: The Manager <themanager@liveconcerts.com>
To: rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br
Subject: LiveConcerts.com Weekly Newsletter 7/13/98
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LIVECONCERTS.COM WEEKLY
-- For the Week of July 13 =AD 19, 1998 --
(to unsubscribe see the bottom of this e-mail)
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Check out the Summer Series =B998
http://www.LiveConcerts.com/summerseries
and listen to some of the best tours around this summer =AD like Ozzfest, t=
he
Warped Tour, Smokin Grooves, San Jose Jazz Fest, Goodwill Games, BB King
Blues Festival, and more.
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LiveConcerts.com Schedule Of Events
All Times Pacific
http://www.liveconcerts.com/
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July 12 @ 3:30 PM - Caroline's Spine and Sister Hazel
July 13 @ 6:00 PM =AD The Tragically Hip Live
July 15 @ 6:30 PM =AD Dream Theater interview and concert
July 17 @ 6:30 PM =AD Liquid Soul and The Wailers
July 18 @ 9:00 AM =AD Ozzfest =B998 and The Warped Tour Live
July 18 @ 5:00 PM =AD The Goodwill Games Opening Ceremony Live
July 19 @ 3:30 PM - Eve 6 and God Lives Underwater
July 20 @ 7:00 PM =AD Neil Finn of Crowded House Live
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THIS WEEK'S DETAILS
http://www.liveconcerts.com/event/
* Caroline=B9s Spine and Sister Hazel
It=B9s time to stir it up as LiveConcerts.com serves up Sister Hazel and
Caroline=B9s Spine. Two power-packed bands, each with their own unique soun=
d
and style that has devoted followers ready to log on and join this one of a
kind cybercast.
* Tragically Hip
No small feat, but the pure bliss with which The Tragically Hip have
approached this process over the last fourteen years has made it look
effortless - revealing a place for each of us in the songs they sing.
* Dream Theater
As true rock & rollers, these Long Islanders have been carving their own
way with their progressive rock sound since 1989. Now, the world-renowned
Dream Theater have made it all the way to LiveConcerts.com, where we'll be
cybercasting a RealVideo interview we did with the band, featuring special
one-on-one time with Mike Portnoy, discussing his side project Liquid
Tension Experiement. The chat will be followed by a RealVideo cybercast of
their live
performance at House of Blues Sunset Strip in Los Angeles this past May 17.
* Liquid Soul and the Wailers
It's time to let down your dreads and slip off you sandals, mon! Live
Concerts.com is bringing you the reggae sounds of the legendary Wailers.
Then, throw away the song book and burn the set list, because it's time for
some funk flavored, improvisational acid-jazz from Liquid Soul.
* Ozzfest 98
This isn't going to be pretty... Ozzfest is here again with a day-long hard
rock festival raging through the nation. Saturday, July 18 is our second
date of LIVE Ozzfest coverage, and we're bringing both the Main Stage and
the Second Stage straight to your browser! Tune in for RealAudio and
Realvideo coverage of Megadeth, Coal Chamber, Limp Bizkit, Life Of Agony
and Soulfly on the main stage - as well as Snot, Ultraspank, Monster Voodoo
Machine,Incubus, The Melvins, Kilgore, System of a Down and Motorhead
tearing their way through the second stage. Don't turn your back on this
tour as LiveConcerts.com brings you the exclusive Internet cybercast.
* The Warped Tour
Get ready for a twisted assault of live music as The Vans Warped Tour 1998
comes at you from Sommerset, Wisconsin (a stone's throw away from
Minneapolis, Minnesota) on July 18th. We'll be bringing you RealAudio and
RealVideo coverage of the two main stages. Bands burning up the main stages
this year include: Rancid, NOFX, The Specials, Deftones, The Slackers, H2O,
All, Voodoo Glowskulls, Bad Religion, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, Save Ferris,
Civ, No Use For A Name, Unwritten Law, Reverend Horton Hear and Snapcase.
Whew. We'll be bringing the music to you live, right here on
LiveConcerts.com.
* The Goodwill Games
For 12 years the Goodwill Games have been bringing international athletic
competition to new levels of challenge and excitement. This year the
opening celebration will combine the thrill of the sports with a diverse
collection of musical performers in a power-packed ceremony honoring the
children of the Goodwill Games. This live event will include performances
by the legendary Ray Charles along with Natalie Cole, Hootie and the
Blowfish and Brandy.
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LISTENING PARTIES Starting July 14th
http://www.liveconcerts.com/lp
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* Various Artists - Sedated In The Eighties Vol. 5"
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CONCERT ARCHIVE
http://www.liveconcerts.com/listening/concerts/
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* Memory Dean
* The Young Dubliners
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THIS WEEK IN KCRW
http://www.liveconcerts.com/listening/kcrw/
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* Grant Lee Buffalo
* Brazzaville
* Hayden
* Brian Setzer
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:14:17 -0700
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: whoa nelly
Message-ID: <35A72CE9.4AD0@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
Just got back into town from the 2-day stint in the mountains; I have a
mere 384 new messages in my inbox. I'll just shut up now and get
cracking on it; I apologise to anyone who winds up waiting for a
response from me.
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - remove ANTISPAM in my address to reply - Hardcore fan of Dream Theater, King's X, Rush (the band), and more!!! - Magic: the Gathering "Duelists' Convocation Level 2 Certified Judge" - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ - If it's nae Scottish, it's CRAP!------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:36:38 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Van Halen's opener Message-ID: <001801bdacd9$547e83a0$5da4d6d0@multimedia>
>Who's opening for Van Halen on the current US leg of their tour? > >I'm going to the show tonight in Portland, and I was curious. > >Zinck >
I just saw VH at Arco Arena in Sac on Wednesday. The opening band is 'Monster Magnet'. I would describe them as a 'Spinal Tap' of the 90's.
Man, hearing the old tunes for the first time live was incredible. Gary did an awesome job.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:10:46 EDT From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on LiveConcerts.com Message-ID: <a6f466ae.35a78077@aol.com>
Hey people! more on DT on LiveConcerts.com..
> LiveConcerts.com Schedule Of Events > All Times Pacific > http://www.liveconcerts.com/ > ----------------------------------------------------- > July 15 @ 6:30 PM Dream Theater interview and concert
> * Dream Theater As true rock & rollers, these Long Islanders have been carving their own way with their progressive rock sound since 1989. Now, the world-renowned Dream Theater have made it all the way to LiveConcerts.com, where we'll be cybercasting a RealVideo interview we did with the band, featuring special one-on-one time with Mike Portnoy, discussing his side project Liquid Tension Experiement. The chat will be followed by a RealVideo cybercast of their live performance at House of Blues Sunset Strip in Los Angeles this past May 17.
sorry if this was mentioned b4...
~Lisa DragynLMC3@aol.com http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts. -Herbert Prochnow
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:43:32 EDT From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4053 Message-ID: <3c932317.35a79635@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-07-11 11:05:24 EDT, you write:
<< Hey, Who's opening for Van Halen on the current US leg of their tour? I'm going to the show tonight in Portland, and I was curious. Zinck >>
Here in Phoenix --- Monters of Rock opened for VH. Students of the Conservatory of Recording Arts and Sciences (sound interns) rate the concert highly unremarkable. But what do they know. . . I unfornately didn't get to go myself.
Nikki
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:35:03 -0300 From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Question about the Paris show Message-ID: <01bdace1$7936de60$2e4492cc@alexis1>
Hello! I have a question for those who attended the Paris show that was taped for the live CD and video. How was James' voice that night? Do you think there will have to be any overdubs in order for the songs to be released on CD? I was just wondering this because I would really like for it to be completely live, not like the live songs on the ACOS EP where James' vocals were taped on top of the live recording. Thanks for any information relevant to this question. Bye!
Alexis
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:52:06 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: tour question Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980711125206.006a91b4@mail.clemson.edu>
At 06:37 AM 7/11/98 -0700, you wrote: > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
couldn't skadz set up the listserv to scan for this text at the beginning of a post, and if it exists, block the post? or maybe send a message to the poster letting him know why it was rejected. that way the poster can fix his program and continue to post. no? i dunno how the listserv program works... does it have a way of scanning for text or sumfin? just an idea. Moo.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 18:57:03 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: digest 4050 ??? Message-ID: <35A817EF.4D77@fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi Please can someone send me digest 4050 ? I haven't recieve it. Thank you Arash
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:02:03 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ADAM & THE MORALS OF BOOTS Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980711130203.006ab2c0@mail.clemson.edu>
That was a very good post, well written and well-thought out. I agree with most of what you said. Thee maybe a few differences, but that seemed to echo my thoughts for the most part, only in much better words than i could have put them in. Moo.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:10:23 -0400 From: Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytse fantasy football league? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980711131023.006e2b68@pop.gl.umbc.edu>
Anyone know what's up with the ESPN fantasy football league? At the end of last season, there was some mention of a "keeper" league being started. Any idea what happened to this? Do we get to keep the same players we had last season or are we starting all over again?
Thanks for the info.
Jason
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:28:46 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: new look, same old idiot.(and some adminisquestions) Message-ID: <199807111731.KAA08613@cats.ucsc.edu>
Yeah, so I gots me a new email address now that I've granulated college. I know that I should be able to keep this one forever, since I own the domain. :)
Anyhoo, while subscribing from the new address, I noticed that the welcome message is old. It sez that Merlo maintains the FAQ and the rsabbs is the official DT site. Maybe someone should change that ...
~Chris
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Van Halen's opener Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980711134122.543449964A-100000@drew.edu>
On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Steven Zinck wrote:
> Who's opening for Van Halen on the current US leg of their tour? > I'm going to the show tonight in Portland, and I was curious.
I think it's either Creed or Kenny Wayne Sheppard.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:25:21 -0400 From: "The I-Man" <inavarro@mdo.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_DT=92s_popularity=3F?= Message-ID: <000101bdacf9$43456f20$d012e7d0@default>
>>I've been meaning to bring this up for a while, and I wanna know what t= he rest of you think. We all know DT is not exactly the most popular band around. . . <snip> . . You think a country like Sweden would over expose bands like Americ= a does? I do wish the best for DT, and it would be cool to see them become more well known, but not in this country. Opinions are open....<<
I personally would love to see OFB parallel the course RUSH pioneered onc= e upon a time. I got into them in junior high back in 1977 after 2112 and AftK. To my friends I was a freak! =93Who the hell is this band you=92re always talki= ng about, man!=94 is what I always heard. (And still hear today, in referenc= e to DT, BTW.) Well, it took until 1980 (PW, SoR) before they began to get serious airplay. They=92re eighth release! Even after that it took a whil= e before they became huge, and they still never got the kind of air-play th= e =91flavor-of-the-month=92 bands of today get. RUSH made it in spite of wh= at the press did, which basically rag on Geddy's vocals. I don=92t want DT to be shooting stars that=92ll burn out and I know they won=92t be! Unfortunate= ly, I believe a couple of common principles can be applied here which will prev= ent them from getting the kind of radio airplay and popularity which today=92= s music gets. 1) Gaussian distribution and 2) economics. 1. Ahh, the old bell curve:
popularity * * * * * * * crap mediocre high quality =3Dpopular
Since DT is definitely of the highest quality, they are doomed to a relatively low level of popularity.
2. Since this greedy world of people, who IMHO are generally maggots, is driven by money, radio stations will only play the music which will attra= ct the most listeners so that they can sell the most commercial airtime. Tha= t=92s why you find markets like the one I=92m in (Balt/Wash) which has three ma= jor radio station which all play the same shit. Sure one=92s a little more he= avy, the other is more alternative but it=92s basically the same crap. The rec= ord company wants you to keep hearing the same recycled shit they market over and over again until you accept it as good and eventually buy the records.
The sad reality is that truly high quality music (or anything for that matter) such as DT cannot be appreciated by the ignorant masses and thus will always have a limited appeal.
So, hopefully I haven=92t offended anyone or dashed their hopes of seeing= OFB on MTV=92s Total Request. If they do wind up all over the radio and MTV, = then I=92ll know they=92ve become another Metallica and that would be sad. Strapping on my asbestos space dye vest, The I-Man
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:22:15 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: This is kind of gross. You probably should skip it. Message-ID: <005201bdad01$401f2f40$290d84d0@korgx3>
> Take it easy, my friend. People are just talking about soccer >because right now there's an international championship called the World >Cup, if you didn't know. It happens once each 4 years.
Yo, bitchass, this is a MUSIC mailing list! If you hadn't read my previous post about people talking sports to the jam you won't understand why your mom is such a slut I guess.
>messages. So, to avoid such extra-bandwidth, the best thing you can do is >just to skip those messages.
Nah, I got a 56k modem. The extra bandwidth doesn't bother me. I like reading complaints about this bullshit. I lathered your mother in hot butter last night and gave her an anal probe.
> They are a popular manifestation that won't last very much (the >World Cup lasts for 1 month -- it will end on Sunday, 12th, if you didn't
Then are we gonna talk about LaCrosse here? What the fuck is this? ROG, TALK ABOUT MUSIC HERE! Rog, I am your father. Or at least I'm standing in line with 457 other guys claiming to be.
> And we actually have some members here who enjoy the sport. You >can't blame on them just because of their preferences. Just because soccer
But I can blame them for posting about it here. There is such a thing as private email ya'know? There is also a fine tool called IRC where you can find groups of people who actually like to talk about this bullshit and you won't get any assholes calling your mom a slut all the time.
> I certainly wouldn't like to see infantile posts such as: "Ok, >then you can start talking about soccer and I'll be talking about <insert
Yah, this may be infantile, but so is your little sister. I hope I didn't hurt her too bad.
> I'm sure you'll understand my point here and be more flexible in >your next posts.
Nah, your mom's flexible enough in bed. I think I lost 10 pounds last night.
Keep the fucking sports off the jam unless you actually have something relevant to say. How fucking hard is it? Post something relevant and then in your sig or something put "Brazillian football rocks!" It's not that hard. Then if someone reads your post and sees you like the same team or whatever then they can contact you. Everyone else does it that way. You're the only inept one around here.
Happy day! --KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:33:14 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: This is kind of gross. You probably should skip it. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980711172121.7332E-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, KorgX3 wrote:
[A post full of insults as a response to an educated message, asking for some comprehension for some members of this list] > Happy day! > --KorgX3
That's what I call a mature post.
No further comments are necessary. Our messages shall speak for ourselves, showing who we really are.
Sincerely, Roger...
P.S.: For your information, I don't have problems with sex nor family. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:05:55 -0700 From: Michael Bahr <durnik@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com> Subject: If you have e-mailed Prism and gotten no response.. Message-ID: <35A7D3B3.59FA@ANTISPAMgoodnet.com>
I've been cleaning out my e-mail lately and a lot of people are e-mailing me and NOT getting the responses. I know my mail works fine because hundreds of people are getting the responses just fine. Before you go bugging me again and again with the same copied mail, getting angrier and angrier each time, CHECK TO SEE IF YOUR DAMNED E-MAIL SERVER IS WORKING PROPERLY. I am responding to stuff and the other end is just not getting it, so they forward the same mail again, this time with a "Respond, you dickhead!" attached to it. And there's nothing I can do about it because I just replied to the same address they put on the e-mail.
Here are a few specific ones:
Dan Pluta: Your huge order was sent, man. a LONG time ago. That one's ancient history. And it was a LOT of discs, so PLEASE don't tell me it never got there. That's one order I'll have to wait for a recall on before I do a re-send because it's just too many discs to say "oh well, it must be lost, guess I'll send another huge shipment".
Kevin Hulme: You should have the lasers by now. The shipping place tore the package and had to have me re-pack it to be sent, but as a result they upgraded it for free to UPS 2-day air. That was Monday. You should have it by now. Worst case: by Monday. Tracking number is one of the following three: 1Z 8XX 843 03 1008 96$% where $% is either 34, 52, or 43. (I have my receipts from all shipments that day with all the tracking numbers but it doesn't say which of the three is yours.)
Luciana Urban: I have received your mails. Since it is the first time your discs haven't been received, I will re-send both to you via international registered mail. That should solve the problem.
Antoni Krasinski: Twice, I sent you a replacement The Darkest of Winters for the disc that was damaged in transit a good while ago. As you're my only customer in Poland and you don't get the shipments, I worry that they may be held by customs. I'll try a UPS shipment and see what happens.
To all: Sorry I had to do all this in public but obviously my private replies were not reaching their recipients. And there were maybe 6 or 7 more people I'd like to address but I'm running low on time right now. Basically if you have not gotten a response from me in *forever* and have had to copy the same mail to me over and over, please check your e-mail server and your message properties to make sure the return path is solid. Other than the "ANTISPAM" in mine, a simple reply reaches me 100% of the time, so my end works fine.
And to those wondering... yep, this is pretty much what I do with shipments that never get there. It is costly as hell but unless I register every shipment, a financial impossibility, all I can do when someone doesn't get their discs is just swallow the cost of making a new one and send again. And that's why doing this sort of work isn't as cheap as it looks.
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - remove ANTISPAM in my address to reply - Hardcore fan of Dream Theater, King's X, Rush (the band), and more!!! - Magic: the Gathering "Duelists' Convocation Level 2 Certified Judge" - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/ - If it's nae Scottish, it's CRAP!
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